Does Art get better from pain?
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- Опубликовано: 12 дек 2024
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Having grown up in a Buddhist household, I think the issue isn't that artists need to experience pain and suffering, but that they have zero perspective in life. So much of modern media comes from people whose worst problems amount to petty nonsense like spilled drinks or dealing with rude people, and letting stuff like that rule over them. They have no real life experience beyond their cushy bubbles where everything they need to survive is ready to request with a few taps on the phone. All of it feels like the the rambling diaries of spoiled kids who've never mentally aged out of high school, because _that's exactly what they are._
you're talking about those college liberal arts people. Real artists already have creativity outside of those political mental conditioning camps
This is correct objectively
This is the best explanation regarding my issue of modern art today
I think good art comes from life experience and certain sufferings of life are the quickest ways of gaining life experiences.
It doesnt have to come from suffering, but its the quickest way to min max personal growth, which is what truly makes great art.
I agree. I also think this makes it easy to mistakenly assume life experience requires suffering, which some people use to justify making others suffer, or justify saying others should suffer. And those who fail to appreciate their privileges and stagnate are also used as evidence that suffering is necessary.
I agree. You've phrased in it in a very honest sense that also speaks of experience.
It partly reminds me of Robin William's life, he can be both a foul-mouthed and clean comedian with such infectious cheer but also had his own demons to deal with
"One if these broadens an artist's toolkit immensely."
The other is relatable.
But to be fair, everyone knows Van Gogh as the guy who cut his ear off.
An interesting fact about Van Gogh is that there’s evidence to suggest it wasn’t suicide, and instead was an accident with children who were playing with a gun in a field and he attempted to ask it from them so they didn’t hurt themself, and the gun misfired and hit him in the chest but he lied and said he shot himself to protect the kids.
It pains me that many still don't find Pippa breedable
Why pain? Enjoy cuz there's less competition for ya
It pains me that Pippa is breedable yet I cannot breed her.
@B.L.S. same ToT
You need to feed your AI new, different Pippa-related material
They're all just too embarrassed to admit it unlike Mr. Turtle
But what if you spilled the last glass of your mother's milk after she passed? Now that's a great loss coming from spilling a drink. Bet Pippa didn't think about that.
_I SPEEL MY DRINK!_
Think she'll ever make it to Hong Kong?
Pippa sees couples with children as "happy" which means she is very willing to spawn 1 or many little pipperinos ToT
Submissive and breedable?
Antipsychotic take.
the "art needs pain" thing, in my opinion, is very reductive, yes profoundly tortured souls produce wonderful art, but I would say that's because people who feel intense emotions produce better art
That's what it comes down to really.
To make the statement more generic: strong emotions, AND understanding what causes them within you, will help with creating better art.
I sincerely disagree. And actually think the romantization of suffering among artists is unhealthy. It's actually creating artists who seek to play victim.
It depends, the ones who rather make art instead of saying what they suffered to make the art are the real suffered artist.
It’s a vicious cycle, because the true suffered artists, don’t want it to be known. If they’re making it “oh so obvious” they’re not actually suffering.
It's not suffering, it's life experience.
The two are related. You can suffer a lot and not learn anything, but the more of life you live and if you genuinely care you will face loss and disappointment
Art can be literally anything. Self expression, Being used as a political message, used as recreation, commission based business and rule 34. Literally art being good or amazing is but a subjective expression and has something to do with the relatability to the one consuming the art than the artists own depictions themselves.
I think that suffering can certainly enhance an artist, but I don't think it's a requirement. Like maybe I'm just uninformed, but no episodes of profound suffering come to mind when I think of the Renaissance masters.
i dropped my ice cream when i was a kid, now I draw pippa shitposts on Xitter.
Ron chambara? Is that you?
The evidence is with Pippa. If you look through the biography of great artists, none of them are well adjusted individuals.
Didnt know pippa was a Madera follower
Humans make humans' lives more fulfilling
I don't think I'd ever rather have a Bugatti than a human
Without pain u cannot experience the tapestries of life, nor improve once self.
Pain drives us to always greater things, we do this to escape the possibility of suffering that kind of pain ever again
@@crazyrabitbob5891 I don't think so, that's how you get Vergil from DMC5 (based, literally me, at least Urizen was), I don't think it's the kind of wholesomely annoying message that goody-two-shoes Peeba is trying to give.
Might be why I'm so bland, mentally sterile, and pragmatic...
I collect nothing, I see no real value in art or decoration... I want to remove all my psychological needs and replace them with a placeholder thay says "Fulfilled" because to me everything in the brain is just 0s and 1s.
When I play a game like BG3, I play it just for the mechanics, I skip dialogue, I just want to loot, write off quest objectives for dopamine, customize my character, and see the numbers rise.
I'm like a backwards human being, for everything that needs logic I use emotion, and for everything that needs emotion I use logic.