@@shisuiofthesharingan7621 Im saying you should be killing more with the ammo you had at first, like when the bramma got nerfed, its actually fine as long as you aim every now and then.
Thanks for the video! I was actually wondering why the price suddenly dropped because I missed Baro's last visit, but it has been on my WFM wishlist for a long time, so now I was finally able to snatch one for myself. People crying about ammo or the AoE nerfs need to adjust. It was just too broken back in the day. This version feels pretty balanced and fun to use. I'd say it may be better than the Proboscis Cernos in many scenarios, with the damage type/resistance changes. Edit: I didn't realise the Lenz _also_ counts as a "sniper", not _just_ a "bow" category, so you can use sniper ammo mutation rather than arrow mutation. That's interesting... I wasn't aware it was possible for a weapon to be in multipe categories, although I assume you can only have one ammo mutation mod equipped at a time. I think the exilus mod isn't working for you because 50+75=125%, so if it's rounded, then 50% rounds up to 1, but 125% rounds down to 1. Maybe 150% total would be required to get 2.
@@NatiiixLP I definitely don't think the ammo changes are as bad as people make them out to be, and a nerf was very much warranted, as AoE weapons were far too prevalent. Lenz only counts as a sniper when it comes to being able to use sniper mutation, nothing else. It along with a few other bows are like that, I think it has to do from when they changed ammo back in the day.
@@Einzweig Yeah, AoE weapons still kinda overshadow single-target weapons. Actual sniper rifles and single-target bows are too niche. The mob density of modern Warframe gameplay, as you said in the video, is pretty high. The ammo mutation lore is a bit bizarre, but good to know. Well, bows _are_ also considered rifles, so there's that.
Toxic lash is strange and applies to both the explosion the direct hit and your blast pricks if you get any of those. The lense is sort of weak on every other frame tho. Something about toxic lash makes it quite crazy
Built in Ammo Mutation + Ammo Drum in the exilus makes it satisfyingly spammable like the Bramma once was. Yeah you need outside buffs/synergys for it to nuke steel path, but if you're playing steelpath then you likely have said buffs. It's not like people don't still use buffs on the top tier weps. Just pair the Lenz with an AoE armor stripper like Frost or Hildryn and it'll destroy everything all the same.
I had actually thought about it a few days ago, but opted not to because I didn't think many people would care. However, if you wish for it, I'd be more than happy to oblige. It's my second most used secondary weapon, so I'm quite fond of it.
I really like bows in this game, especially explosive ones. Playing as Zephyr, this bow is not bad at all, even though bugged with tornadoes. For some reason I can see mostly yellow crits when explosion hits them. The bow itself has 215% CC and 5.3x CD with a riven mod. That being said, when not using tornadoes, I only see red crits when in the air. Tested vs SP Murmr for now, I see betwen 30k-400k crits and sometimes over 1M. Ran Persto survival, with no need for the capsules. Vulpy for viral. Bow modded for Gas, the tornadoes are kill zones with some enemies dying before they even reach the middle. Riven for now: 40% ammo max, 130%CC, 90%CD, +recoil. Other mods: Crit Delay, Malignant Force, Vigilante Fervor(Vile acc when I get it), Thermite rounds, Hunter Munitions, Rifle Ele, Galv Chamber and Cautious Shot. Using Primary Merciless. Wish DE would give this weapon some love, as riven dispo sucks for no reason and as always it has to be bugged with Zephyr 4.
Replace the high voltage on the second build with hunter munitions You already dont need the mutation Its much more damage and viral instead of those toxin procs lol
I'm confused. I did do viral with hunter mumu as like the third build I showed I think, if that's what you mean. Very likely I'm just schizo and lost in the sauce, if you could leave a timestamp to when/what you're talking about that'd be epic.
@@cenation7mjc I'm still confused. In both of the timestamps you gave I had hunter munitions on instead of high voltage, which is what you were saying to do. The toxin procs are from the direct hits, because the impact doesn't have cold to kick with and get viral.
@@XSoulgamez I actually liked the ammo nerf to explosive weapons, I think it was one of the best ways to bring them in line with other weapons. There are a few different ways of working around it, so I rarely find it to be a problem.
Prisma Lenz is definitely one of the weapons that is in this game.
Back in the day lens was a beast, but then shit got crazy.
Bro was high laying down eating chips when he made the title
Everything about the lenz should be good....but damm the ammo changes
It has built in ammo mutation it doesnt have ammo issues
@@RavlinWasTaken it does when there is no ammo around you
@@shisuiofthesharingan7621 gotta kill more stuff
@@RavlinWasTaken how am out of ammo
@@shisuiofthesharingan7621 Im saying you should be killing more with the ammo you had at first, like when the bramma got nerfed, its actually fine as long as you aim every now and then.
Thanks for the video! I was actually wondering why the price suddenly dropped because I missed Baro's last visit, but it has been on my WFM wishlist for a long time, so now I was finally able to snatch one for myself.
People crying about ammo or the AoE nerfs need to adjust. It was just too broken back in the day. This version feels pretty balanced and fun to use. I'd say it may be better than the Proboscis Cernos in many scenarios, with the damage type/resistance changes.
Edit: I didn't realise the Lenz _also_ counts as a "sniper", not _just_ a "bow" category, so you can use sniper ammo mutation rather than arrow mutation. That's interesting... I wasn't aware it was possible for a weapon to be in multipe categories, although I assume you can only have one ammo mutation mod equipped at a time. I think the exilus mod isn't working for you because 50+75=125%, so if it's rounded, then 50% rounds up to 1, but 125% rounds down to 1. Maybe 150% total would be required to get 2.
@@NatiiixLP I definitely don't think the ammo changes are as bad as people make them out to be, and a nerf was very much warranted, as AoE weapons were far too prevalent.
Lenz only counts as a sniper when it comes to being able to use sniper mutation, nothing else. It along with a few other bows are like that, I think it has to do from when they changed ammo back in the day.
@@Einzweig Yeah, AoE weapons still kinda overshadow single-target weapons. Actual sniper rifles and single-target bows are too niche. The mob density of modern Warframe gameplay, as you said in the video, is pretty high.
The ammo mutation lore is a bit bizarre, but good to know. Well, bows _are_ also considered rifles, so there's that.
Thank you g! Very cool B)
Nice Daddy, i needed this
The lense is crazy with saryn and toxic lash
Toxic lash is strange and applies to both the explosion the direct hit and your blast pricks if you get any of those. The lense is sort of weak on every other frame tho. Something about toxic lash makes it quite crazy
Toxic lash makes everything OP. Needs a nerf
Built in Ammo Mutation + Ammo Drum in the exilus makes it satisfyingly spammable like the Bramma once was. Yeah you need outside buffs/synergys for it to nuke steel path, but if you're playing steelpath then you likely have said buffs. It's not like people don't still use buffs on the top tier weps. Just pair the Lenz with an AoE armor stripper like Frost or Hildryn and it'll destroy everything all the same.
Nah id jade
hello! can u also do a revisit of akjagara prime it feels more powerful now with the semi auto changes
I had actually thought about it a few days ago, but opted not to because I didn't think many people would care. However, if you wish for it, I'd be more than happy to oblige. It's my second most used secondary weapon, so I'm quite fond of it.
thanks for the information
Im waiting for the day they give back some ammo to explosive weapons or a mod that turns them into battery weapons.
I really like bows in this game, especially explosive ones.
Playing as Zephyr, this bow is not bad at all, even though bugged with tornadoes.
For some reason I can see mostly yellow crits when explosion hits them.
The bow itself has 215% CC and 5.3x CD with a riven mod.
That being said, when not using tornadoes, I only see red crits when in the air.
Tested vs SP Murmr for now, I see betwen 30k-400k crits and sometimes over 1M.
Ran Persto survival, with no need for the capsules.
Vulpy for viral.
Bow modded for Gas, the tornadoes are kill zones with some enemies dying before they even reach the middle.
Riven for now: 40% ammo max, 130%CC, 90%CD, +recoil.
Other mods: Crit Delay, Malignant Force, Vigilante Fervor(Vile acc when I get it), Thermite rounds, Hunter Munitions, Rifle Ele, Galv Chamber and Cautious Shot.
Using Primary Merciless.
Wish DE would give this weapon some love, as riven dispo sucks for no reason and as always it has to be bugged with Zephyr 4.
Was pretty sure CC only applies to arrow. The Aoe Dmg won’t ever go higher than yellow. So you should invest into CD instead or more Elemental Dmg
Zephyr makes aoe red for me
@@SilverFatalis AEO goes red on Zephyr apart from shooting into tornadoes.
I like how you are mentioning that warframe is a horde simulator where in reality it is just a platinum harvest simulator.
@@cheesejuice_ You're absolutely right, it was a massive blunder on my part.
@@Einzweig now go 200m maybe find 2 lonely grineer
Replace the high voltage on the second build with hunter munitions
You already dont need the mutation
Its much more damage and viral instead of those toxin procs lol
I'm confused. I did do viral with hunter mumu as like the third build I showed I think, if that's what you mean. Very likely I'm just schizo and lost in the sauce, if you could leave a timestamp to when/what you're talking about that'd be epic.
About 11:13
And 13:52
The exposion procs viral but direct hits proc toxin since you dont have any cold on the direct shot damage
@@cenation7mjc I'm still confused. In both of the timestamps you gave I had hunter munitions on instead of high voltage, which is what you were saying to do. The toxin procs are from the direct hits, because the impact doesn't have cold to kick with and get viral.
Hows cyanex now
@@lynlawson3862 I've yet to try it, I'll have to see.
They be so busy worrying about nerfing things when it’s just ruining the fun, ain’t no way there was EVERRRR supposed to be an ammo nerf
@@XSoulgamez I actually liked the ammo nerf to explosive weapons, I think it was one of the best ways to bring them in line with other weapons. There are a few different ways of working around it, so I rarely find it to be a problem.
@@Einzweig I hate players tht think like you go away , yall are LITERALLY the reason the accept and go through with bs nerfs
Very meh video
@@Elioenai_Mota You right.