For anyone watching this video and want to play this, I would absolutely recommend to play it on PC with Dash Faction. It is a community patch that comes with a ton of bugfixes (including the infamous submarine explosion bug at above 60fps) and adds a ton of quality of life features like DX9 renderer, widescreen resolutions/FOV fixes, AA, AF, autosave function and more etc. It is also necessary to run modern mapsets. The recently released Kava campaign (which BTW is an excellent campaign based on mobile Red Faction game's story) need Dash Faction to run.
@@Clay3613 True. And also AI botmatch support as well (although there's only 9 maps in PS2 version vs the 30 something in PC version, so botmatch gets old fast). But other than those, the PC version has much more to offer. Online MP, custom SP and MP content, custom patches that add QoL improvements and much better resolution and framerate (original PS2 version runs at an paltry 20-25 fps vs 240 fps on PC with Dash Faction patch)
@@atifarshad7624 id probably still prefer playing the ps2 version on my crt just for the overall experience, im not a huge fan of the pc versions look, especially at higher resolutions on a modern display it just doesn't look appealing to me. but im still really happy to see the pc version getting some much needed love from the community
@@gregoryberrycone to be fair, you can lower the resolution and also adjust the brightness and fps cap if you want the ps2 feel, all while not having to deal with long loading times of ps2 version. The only real thing the ps2 version has over the pc version is the botmatch support (and that too is only 9 maps).
Its still insane. I guess its too much to ask for what we already have but more these days. Same reason i dont play Need for Speed games anymore. We used to be able to customize cars like clay with a full spectrum of RGB colors. The whole dayum crayon factory... and today we can barely get a 10 pack of colors. Halo does the same thing. So many games do.
@@terabitdefiance8022 I think the reason we've lost so many of these customization features is because programmers are so much less capable these days. Yeah, there's super realistic graphics with ray traced lighting, but most of the work is done with tools that make it easy for an artist to do that job. Things like exploding geometry, especially at the resolutions we get now, are incredibly processor intensive, even for a GPU, and without good programmers who have a solid understanding of math, it's just not going to happen. At an intentionally nerfed resolution, I think even an average programmer could do it, but someone has to have the initiative.
@Anony Mousse oh of course. At that's just the tip of the iceberg. Back then the game devs could take to the engine devs and everything was in sync. Maybe there were hiccups. But not to the scale of today where everyone in office at this point doesn't know who make the code for anything. Nobody can get to know anything either since (from what it seems like) everyone's hired for 6 months or 1 title and let go. Your entire comment and this one included are only 2 things in the list.. it could go on and on really.
There is something about 2000-2001 graphics that speaks to me - whether it's vertex lighting, smooth fixed-pipeline shaders or phototextures (or combination of it) - all together it gives such a "clear as a glass" look. Deus Ex, RF, DNF2001, Serious Sam, RTCW, Max Payne, Codename 47, first builds of Stalker - many good examples out there. There is some specific realism in those visuals, that modern PBR-based renderer is just not being able to replicate and communicate.
I think its still a valid choice today. Looking at gloomwood as my modern example, the intent of the art matters more than the fidelity...does it get across what its designed to be? YES? then lets move on to whats important, design and gameplay.
That's one of the factors that makes me prefer the original Half-Life over the sequel and its extra campaigns - - the distinct contrast between an enemy and the environment allows for more precise shooting. There's a reason Counter-Strike 1.6 is so beloved too, all these years later... I'd go for Unreal Tournament '99 over almost any other FPS' from the "modern era".
It can look nice and can be done by design but going as far as to make up terms like "specific realism" is silly. You need to be honest that it's nostalgia speaking here.
@@ImGonnaFudgeThatFish the terms on display maybe, but I don't think that tracks because of the sheer numbers of people who buy newblood Games. It's not all boomer shooter fans. It's also a bunch of regular young dudes. The target demographic for mine craft is kids....
I remember the previews in PC Gamer magazine describing the geomod system. Then we finally got the demo disc and it was amazing! I've been disappointed no one has really pushed this idea ever since. Recently replayed Red Faction Guerilla. I hope they return to the IP soon.
Not quite the same but Remedy's Control had lots and lots of environmental destruction. And all that debris is used for telekinetic throw & shield powers.
Hearing people being surprised about low 4:3 resolutions running well is wild. There's going to be a day where people say the same about 4k and that scares me.
@@Gr00t And by the way, the definition of "running well" is changing. Back in 96 I thought that Quake run pretty well on my PC. But now judging by YT channels I understand that my "run pretty well" was 15-20 fps in 320x200.
Thank you guys for doing these retro comparison videos! It's such a fun trip down memory lane, and the differences in retro titles are way more interesting than modern games!
rf was my first ps2 game and i absolutely loved how you were able to break through walls, doors and so on, it felt so fresh! more games should do that, it's so cool being able to change the level structure!
I remember in the mid 00s, my mate getting the Nokia N-Gage and showing us. The memory that stands out, having to remove the battery to get to the game slot... And the games looked like SD cards.
Dude! I'm playing this on the PS5 right now! The resolution was definitely never supposed to be above 480p. You can see the enemies T posing off in the distance as they float towards you. You can't do any damage till you move closer to them also. It's pretty funny but kinda bull towards the end of the game because of the higher resolution on PS4/PS5 allowing you to see enemies further out than you could back on PS2 and not being able to damage them. Such a great game though!
@@AfterBurnerTeirusu Maybe there is a distant threshold you must enter before you can do damage. It's very weird. You'd need to see it for yourself to know what I mean. It becomes very noticeable towards the very end of the game when playing on PS4/PS5.
@@WllKiedSnake Yeah it makes sense with a game with map deformation. You can get pretty far from enemies and the game was designed for a lower res. I do own a ntsc copy of the ps2 version. (and the N-gage port)
@@AfterBurnerTeirusu You zoom in with a Sniper or Percision Scope later on and they are pretty much T Pose flying at you like a bird shooting bullets from nothing at you. I wonder if you can get it to happen on a multiplayer map in 2 Player Mode? There are some big maps there to potentially see it? Oh! Even on PS5 you still get fps dips. One of the reasons it dips is because one room had to many chairs on screen. But it will also dip if there are to many NPC's on screen or if there are to many ships on screen also. You'd think the PS5 could tackle that stuff?... But nope! And that's pretty cool you have them! That N Gage version is very unique!
@@WllKiedSnake The ps4's ps2 emu isn't all that great and it seems to run badly on ps5. Some games like Ape Escape 2 and The Warriors are unplayable. Jak X was great on PS4 Pro. It wasn't super stable, but ran the game at 50-60fps which is something the ps2 couldn't do. Haven't tried it on PS5 though.
Loved this game back on the PS2. The character models in cutscenes were a little rough even back in those days (compared to MGS2 & SH 2) but the overall graphical presentation was really good and the geo mod system blew my mind.
This game was far ahead of its time. I had a blast with it. I remember trying to see what the deepest tunnel I could make with the engines limits lol The rebellion discussion in this video cracked me up
I remember how impressed I was playing this back when it came out. I had the PC version and I loved it. And yes, it totally reminded me of Total Recall, which was one of the reasons I liked it so much.
Got this game as a teenager and LOVED it. The tunneling is still one of the coolest things I've seen in a game. I was fully invested in the atmosphere etc, I never thought it had bad graphics at the time. Still looks ok to me.
Never played any Red Faction game. Definitely has that old-school feel, with hip-firing and level design. The destruction is pretty impressive too. I love this video series, by the way. Still so many games to show off!
One thing you neglected to talk about was how great the cutscene animations were. During normal gameplay, some of the NPC animation is quite bad but the fluidity and nimbleness of the cutscene animation is quite spectacular.
Sticky bomb + NPC's face = classic. I remember setting this up on a LAN with my buddy, walking away momentarily to get a drink and coming back to my screen being partially darkened. He had placed a sticky bomb on the face of my character, let me run around confused and laughing at be before blowing me up. Such a great game.
What I always loved about Red Faction 2 was the way you could make your own bots and change a wide variety of their stats. I played a lot of solo multiplayer with those guys.
Huge memories of this classic on PS2 back in the day. I enjoyed the campaign as well as the split screen; even more the multi in RF2. I got the PC version of RF1 a few years later and the online multiplayer was surprisingly fun with a strong mod scene. This also motivated me to install on my Steam Deck :) runs perfect out of the box with a good community control config.
I also had a similar save game issue with the game. It basically had save states so you’d load up in the exact position/status you saved at. I don’t know how I did it, but I’d saved my game while in the process of falling to my death. So every time I loaded it up, I was in an eternal death loop. I only had one save state and was far enough in to the game that I had no desire to start over, so I just never played the game again.
While this game was super impressive for its tech, Red Faction Guerilla was truly groundbreaking. Still to this day almost NO games do what Red Faction Guerilla did back then.
Oh man I love real time comparisons with commentary like this guys, I'm excited for more! Deus Ex on PC vs PS2 or Half Life perhaps? The possibilities are endless!
Had such a good time with this game back in the day. Surprised this tech hasn't been brought to the modern generation with the freedom of these games. Edit: MIPS r5900 brings back memories. Writing homebrew for the PS2 was so fun and easy.
One of the cooler games of the era, and thank you for mentioning Paul Verhoeven's timeless masterpiece Total Recall, Alex. Now that's a film. This video is a great Sunday morning treat. Love the nostalgia so thick it needs a support crew, and the subsequent tech talk on the era.
I played this on a Pentium 3 @1GHz can't remember the GPU model, but it was an nVidia 128MB card. The recommended specs at the time was a P2-400MHz and 8MB GPU
This game was really fun, I remember playing it on both the PS2 and on a G3 mac. RF2 was fun as well and it had some cool guns, but it was quite a different type of game.
You aren't wrong about the console development part - Prior to RF Volitions experience was either PC or the joystick controls - not controllers themselves, it was a big adjustment for both Summoner and Red Faction Edit: If you happen to be interested, there is a mini-documentary called "The Secret History of Volition" - it describes their origins from the very first games they made including Descent and goes all the way up to ( I think) Red Faction Armageddon and SR3/4 ? Edit Edit: I got to the part where i think you talked about the documentary and i feel silly :'D in any case, speaking directly to the N-gage, a community member did a full port of the Ngage version onto the PC using REDs level designer - so we have a PC version of the ngage that you can play from the mod set up in RF :D Also Dash faction was recently updated to add auto saves to each physical level transition :D OK final edit >< - RF2 was a console port rather than made on PC - the xbox version was the console of choice out of PS2/Xbox/Gamecube - I suspect that Outrage when they did the port didn't care to put a dedicated multiplayer out on it since their only official instruction was probably just get the game on PC. Even the customisation aspect of multiplayer on PC RF2 is diluted away from its console state.
One of my favs from teenage era, that game back in the day was super impressive... looking at it now - I'm still impressed, I think I will replay it with some ReShades to see how much you can improve it further. Props Alex for mentioning KMFDM - I think you're the first game-oriented media mentioning that band, and Industrial music at all!
My best memory of red faction, 1/3 into the game, there was big metal door which If I believe correctly either a guard was suppose to open it for me or myself through a keypad lock, and by mistake I had either killed the guard or destroyed the keypad and quick saved the game. No other means to proceed I selected the rocket launcher and made a big hole in the wall beside that locked door and continued forward.
Man this brings back all the good memories. I loved both RF 1 and RF2 back then. Of course the new games specially Guerrilla was friggin' amazing. I had so much fun with my bros in RF2 multiplayer split screen. Man that framerate would chuuuug bug it sure was a blast! I even hooked up a keyboard and mouse on RF2 on the ps2. Sure it was way worse than the gamepad, but was really cool to have a kb/m on a console! I really hope this franchise isn't dead after Guerrilla. Anywho, loved the video John and Alex!
54:20 I've never related more with a moment than when he loads his save and realized how far back it was and just said "welp, that's Red Faction!" and quit lol
I loved this game as a kid. I enjoyed the split screen DM on PS2 as well. Alternate fire modes for weapons felt like a whole new thing for me at the time. Thanks for showcasing this cool game. Always good to see games that tried something different.
Thank you for the nostalgia trip! I loved digging and digging on PC. I remember doing that with the drill for what had to be hours. It was also fun to create shortcuts and flank enemies. The 2nd game really dropped the ball on a lot of this, but I still enjoyed it for what it was. The following games were hit or miss, too.
"PARTY TIME!" Now this is a game in need of a remaster/remake. Played the Ps2 version over and over again back in the day. That soundtrack, especially with the synths in calming and action scenarios was so perfect. The multiplayer is also top notch. Fast pace arena style, and it had bots! LRG recently did a physical PS4 copy. With the collectors edition coming in a PC Big Box style packaging. and a Vinyl of the soundtrack was only the icing. Also I hear you mention the Summoner game. Interestingly enough, the main menu on the PS2 has an option to view the Summoner trailer.
I remember this being a sleeper hit from an unknown studio. I bought it only because it had this weird minimalistic cover (unlike most game covers at the time) and was about shooting things on Mars. And even though it was a very short game (can be completed in under 3 hours) - oh boy what a journey it was. Every level was an entirely different game mechanic. This is what we completely lost since late 00s - nowadays games just get one thing right and run with it until end credits with no variety.
Hahah dude I say the samething all the time. I'd build roller coasters for all my coaster enthusiasts buds, machine shop and wood working shop for all my friends and strangers who want to create something, fund video game development etc.
Maybe it's because I'm used to jank, but I think the N-Gage version actually looks pretty good, especially given the specs of that device and considering the era this came out in. Now I need to find a video of someone doing a full playthrough on that version.
PLEASE play Anachronox on the next Time Capsule. It's such a classic game from this era that was ahead of it's time, in my opinion. Love this series of videos though. My favorite on the channel where you just explore and comment on graphics and mechanics of old games on original hardware. Such a brilliant concept.
I think a large reason we didn't see many games implementing this level of destruction was because there was such a huge push to always use the hardware to maximum in order to get as-accurate-as-possible lighting, shadows, texture details and geometry. And the push is still happening despite it leveling out. I can imagine in order to get something combined like Red Faction 1 terrain destruction + Red Faction Guerrilla building destruction we'd need a game that pushes back to early PS4/Xbox One visuals. I mean the most terrain customizable games are typically far removed from realism for a reason.
@@fryrocks Nice! i was in Bad Angels. Were you guys in the european ladder? Don't recall HiVoltage, but perhaps we weren't around at the same time. Clans came and went in RF pretty quickly. I think the best team when i was around was ZiL Success
I had this on PS2 when it first came out, fell in love with it. Played the PC version later on. I like that in the PC version you can play as the end-game story mode Mercenaries in multiplayer. I always thought they looked super cool.
Me and my friends had SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much fun with this game back in the day. We would make tunnels with the rockets, until the game's limit was hit and fight within and around them. This and Red Dead Revolver were our favorite multiplayer games on PS2, other than WWF Smackdown 3, 4, 5 then Smackdown Vs. Raw.
I bought the PS2 Classic version on PS4 around 4 years ago, having really enjoyed Red Faction Guerrilla on PS3 years ago and while not being a big FPS guy, I can appreciate these Half-Life era shooters. The game definetly felt extremely early-PS2, mainly due to the controls, but before I knew I spent all weekend playing through it twice to unlock most trophies. Really enjoyed it, but can only recommend it to those familiar with games and controls of that era.
Played so much of this online. Even made some maps. It played fantastic in multiplayer, but they abandoned it very early in despite some big exploits, and didn’t even bother with multiplayer for Red Faction 2.
This is one of my favorite fps games of all time. I can’t believe that twenty years later we still don’t have destructible environments. I thought after Red Faction that was the future. Nope. We need Volition to get back in the engine building game.
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For anyone watching this video and want to play this, I would absolutely recommend to play it on PC with Dash Faction.
It is a community patch that comes with a ton of bugfixes (including the infamous submarine explosion bug at above 60fps) and adds a ton of quality of life features like DX9 renderer, widescreen resolutions/FOV fixes, AA, AF, autosave function and more etc.
It is also necessary to run modern mapsets. The recently released Kava campaign (which BTW is an excellent campaign based on mobile Red Faction game's story) need Dash Faction to run.
The PS2 colors and lights look better though.
@@Clay3613 True. And also AI botmatch support as well (although there's only 9 maps in PS2 version vs the 30 something in PC version, so botmatch gets old fast).
But other than those, the PC version has much more to offer. Online MP, custom SP and MP content, custom patches that add QoL improvements and much better resolution and framerate (original PS2 version runs at an paltry 20-25 fps vs 240 fps on PC with Dash Faction patch)
Thanks for the recommendation.
@@atifarshad7624 id probably still prefer playing the ps2 version on my crt just for the overall experience, im not a huge fan of the pc versions look, especially at higher resolutions on a modern display it just doesn't look appealing to me. but im still really happy to see the pc version getting some much needed love from the community
@@gregoryberrycone to be fair, you can lower the resolution and also adjust the brightness and fps cap if you want the ps2 feel, all while not having to deal with long loading times of ps2 version.
The only real thing the ps2 version has over the pc version is the botmatch support (and that too is only 9 maps).
Crazy we were blowing through walls in 2001, then 20 years later games are so static you’re lucky if you get bullet hole decals.
Glad we now have VR gaming but we still missed geo mod destruction 😢
The fact you could destroy everything to the point you could dig freaking tunnels on the ground on a playstation 2 was fucking insane at the time
Its still insane. I guess its too much to ask for what we already have but more these days. Same reason i dont play Need for Speed games anymore. We used to be able to customize cars like clay with a full spectrum of RGB colors. The whole dayum crayon factory... and today we can barely get a 10 pack of colors. Halo does the same thing. So many games do.
@@terabitdefiance8022 I think the reason we've lost so many of these customization features is because programmers are so much less capable these days. Yeah, there's super realistic graphics with ray traced lighting, but most of the work is done with tools that make it easy for an artist to do that job. Things like exploding geometry, especially at the resolutions we get now, are incredibly processor intensive, even for a GPU, and without good programmers who have a solid understanding of math, it's just not going to happen. At an intentionally nerfed resolution, I think even an average programmer could do it, but someone has to have the initiative.
@Anony Mousse oh of course. At that's just the tip of the iceberg. Back then the game devs could take to the engine devs and everything was in sync. Maybe there were hiccups. But not to the scale of today where everyone in office at this point doesn't know who make the code for anything. Nobody can get to know anything either since (from what it seems like) everyone's hired for 6 months or 1 title and let go. Your entire comment and this one included are only 2 things in the list.. it could go on and on really.
There is something about 2000-2001 graphics that speaks to me - whether it's vertex lighting, smooth fixed-pipeline shaders or phototextures (or combination of it) - all together it gives such a "clear as a glass" look.
Deus Ex, RF, DNF2001, Serious Sam, RTCW, Max Payne, Codename 47, first builds of Stalker - many good examples out there. There is some specific realism in those visuals, that modern PBR-based renderer is just not being able to replicate and communicate.
I think its still a valid choice today. Looking at gloomwood as my modern example, the intent of the art matters more than the fidelity...does it get across what its designed to be? YES? then lets move on to whats important, design and gameplay.
That's one of the factors that makes me prefer the original Half-Life over the sequel and its extra campaigns - - the distinct contrast between an enemy and the environment allows for more precise shooting.
There's a reason Counter-Strike 1.6 is so beloved too, all these years later...
I'd go for Unreal Tournament '99 over almost any other FPS' from the "modern era".
It can look nice and can be done by design but going as far as to make up terms like "specific realism" is silly. You need to be honest that it's nostalgia speaking here.
@@ImGonnaFudgeThatFish the terms on display maybe, but I don't think that tracks because of the sheer numbers of people who buy newblood Games. It's not all boomer shooter fans. It's also a bunch of regular young dudes. The target demographic for mine craft is kids....
I also get gooey for affine texture mapping and integer based vertex location rounding seen on ps1
I remember the menu music for the PS2 version was a banger, still got that stuck in my head over 20 years later!
I was playing the game Vietcong recently. Dude, it's menu music is a cover of Purple Haze, I think. It's so dope. Hahah
Ah yes, this is a true classic.
I remember the previews in PC Gamer magazine describing the geomod system. Then we finally got the demo disc and it was amazing! I've been disappointed no one has really pushed this idea ever since. Recently replayed Red Faction Guerilla. I hope they return to the IP soon.
The original Red Faction Guerilla or the Re-Mars-tered version? That remake indicates that there's still some interest in the IP.
@@notsyzagts7967 Re-Mars-tered! Played the original on a friend's PS3... The remaster does give me hope!
@@notsyzagts7967 I have no interest if Volition is working on it...they've fallen off in a big way
Not quite the same but Remedy's Control had lots and lots of environmental destruction. And all that debris is used for telekinetic throw & shield powers.
@@ThePreciseClimber I just started playing Control a few days ago! I love Remedy! Very fascinating game so far...
Its crazy with the tech we have right now that no company has made a game that really innovated destruction like this game did
Really loving these side by side playthroughs!
I remember playing this on a Pentium III 450, 128 MB RAM, TNT2. And to my surprise, this game was running quite well in 640x480.
Hearing people being surprised about low 4:3 resolutions running well is wild. There's going to be a day where people say the same about 4k and that scares me.
@@Gr00t And by the way, the definition of "running well" is changing. Back in 96 I thought that Quake run pretty well on my PC. But now judging by YT channels I understand that my "run pretty well" was 15-20 fps in 320x200.
I remember creating vast tunnel networks in this game for no particular reason. What great memories.
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Thank you guys for doing these retro comparison videos! It's such a fun trip down memory lane, and the differences in retro titles are way more interesting than modern games!
Literally just bought this game for my PS2 used at the pawn shop!!
If you have a PS4/PS5 you can pick up Red Faction 1&2 on the PS Store. Xbox One and Series X have Red Faction 2 on the Xbox Store.
Ahh Man, I loved Red Faction. I rented this on the PS2 on a whim and it blew my mind
rf was my first ps2 game and i absolutely loved how you were able to break through walls, doors and so on, it felt so fresh!
more games should do that, it's so cool being able to change the level structure!
Great memories renting this for PS2 from a local video shop back in the day. This and Red Faction 2 took up dozens of hours lol
Same team that did Descent.
Descent is the game that got me into gaming! I would love a DF retro to cover that game. Please John!!!
So Descent started your… descent into gaming 😁?
I remember in the mid 00s, my mate getting the Nokia N-Gage and showing us. The memory that stands out, having to remove the battery to get to the game slot... And the games looked like SD cards.
Oh, man. Total Recall is an absolute masterpiece. I’m probably going to watch it now because of you.
Dude! I'm playing this on the PS5 right now! The resolution was definitely never supposed to be above 480p. You can see the enemies T posing off in the distance as they float towards you. You can't do any damage till you move closer to them also. It's pretty funny but kinda bull towards the end of the game because of the higher resolution on PS4/PS5 allowing you to see enemies further out than you could back on PS2 and not being able to damage them. Such a great game though!
So it's like Duke Nukem 3D which doesn't allow you to damage enemies before they've seen you.
@@AfterBurnerTeirusu Maybe there is a distant threshold you must enter before you can do damage. It's very weird. You'd need to see it for yourself to know what I mean. It becomes very noticeable towards the very end of the game when playing on PS4/PS5.
@@WllKiedSnake Yeah it makes sense with a game with map deformation. You can get pretty far from enemies and the game was designed for a lower res. I do own a ntsc copy of the ps2 version. (and the N-gage port)
@@AfterBurnerTeirusu You zoom in with a Sniper or Percision Scope later on and they are pretty much T Pose flying at you like a bird shooting bullets from nothing at you. I wonder if you can get it to happen on a multiplayer map in 2 Player Mode? There are some big maps there to potentially see it? Oh! Even on PS5 you still get fps dips. One of the reasons it dips is because one room had to many chairs on screen. But it will also dip if there are to many NPC's on screen or if there are to many ships on screen also. You'd think the PS5 could tackle that stuff?... But nope! And that's pretty cool you have them! That N Gage version is very unique!
@@WllKiedSnake The ps4's ps2 emu isn't all that great and it seems to run badly on ps5. Some games like Ape Escape 2 and The Warriors are unplayable. Jak X was great on PS4 Pro.
It wasn't super stable, but ran the game at 50-60fps which is something the ps2 couldn't do. Haven't tried it on PS5 though.
So glad you guys find the time to put these out frequently, enjoy them so much, thanks guys
Loved this game back on the PS2. The character models in cutscenes were a little rough even back in those days (compared to MGS2 & SH 2) but the overall graphical presentation was really good and the geo mod system blew my mind.
This and RF2 were my favorites on PS2, Split Screen multiplayer was lots of fun and the destruction was pretty cool.
Love to see you guys cover Blue Stinger on Dreamcast. Furthest draw distances I had ever seen in a 3D game at the time by a country mile.
I remember that game lol. I remember the graphics being really sharp and detailed for the time, never got to far in it tho
I loved the atmosphere and “vibe” of that game too. With it being set during Christmas and festive but also evil and isolated
Its spiritual successor is even better and sold terribly and is super pricey now: Illbleed!
@@friedzombie4 really? Never heard of it! Same devs?
I love blue stinger would make a df retro
This game was far ahead of its time. I had a blast with it. I remember trying to see what the deepest tunnel I could make with the engines limits lol
The rebellion discussion in this video cracked me up
"I had a blast with it". Literally 😄
This is a great format and it's really cool to see this game on both platforms at once. Thanks guys!
Loved the hell outa this game as a kid crazy tech being able to destroy almost everything in your path with all the destruction
LOVED playing this on PS2 back in the day. Really gave the feeling of a high end pc gaming experience on console for its time.
I remember how impressed I was playing this back when it came out. I had the PC version and I loved it. And yes, it totally reminded me of Total Recall, which was one of the reasons I liked it so much.
Got this game as a teenager and LOVED it. The tunneling is still one of the coolest things I've seen in a game. I was fully invested in the atmosphere etc, I never thought it had bad graphics at the time. Still looks ok to me.
I had so much fun with this game on the ps2. Thanks for the video, brings back memories.
Never played any Red Faction game. Definitely has that old-school feel, with hip-firing and level design. The destruction is pretty impressive too.
I love this video series, by the way. Still so many games to show off!
One thing you neglected to talk about was how great the cutscene animations were. During normal gameplay, some of the NPC animation is quite bad but the fluidity and nimbleness of the cutscene animation is quite spectacular.
Sticky bomb + NPC's face = classic. I remember setting this up on a LAN with my buddy, walking away momentarily to get a drink and coming back to my screen being partially darkened. He had placed a sticky bomb on the face of my character, let me run around confused and laughing at be before blowing me up. Such a great game.
What I always loved about Red Faction 2 was the way you could make your own bots and change a wide variety of their stats. I played a lot of solo multiplayer with those guys.
I maintain that every time John says “by and large” we need the Buy n Large logo from wall-e in a corner.
Geomod destructible walls was absolutely revolutionary at the time. Mind blowing. I'm not sure any other game has done similiar since?
By far one of my favorite classic game.. Played this week on my ps5
Huge memories of this classic on PS2 back in the day. I enjoyed the campaign as well as the split screen; even more the multi in RF2. I got the PC version of RF1 a few years later and the online multiplayer was surprisingly fun with a strong mod scene.
This also motivated me to install on my Steam Deck :) runs perfect out of the box with a good community control config.
I also had a similar save game issue with the game. It basically had save states so you’d load up in the exact position/status you saved at. I don’t know how I did it, but I’d saved my game while in the process of falling to my death. So every time I loaded it up, I was in an eternal death loop. I only had one save state and was far enough in to the game that I had no desire to start over, so I just never played the game again.
sniping fools through walls with the rail gun was a fave of mine
Played this on the PC and loved it. It's so fun to see you guys playing it here. The graphics in retrospect remind me a little of Soldier of Fortune.
While this game was super impressive for its tech, Red Faction Guerilla was truly groundbreaking.
Still to this day almost NO games do what Red Faction Guerilla did back then.
Omg yes. I loved this game. So cool to see you give it some attention
Oh man I love real time comparisons with commentary like this guys, I'm excited for more! Deus Ex on PC vs PS2 or Half Life perhaps? The possibilities are endless!
My brother and I played this game on the PS2 so many times. Loved this game back in the day.
Surprised you didn't jump ahead to submarine sections as they always impressed me. Red Fraction was the first game I played on my PS2.
Red faction on the ps2 was my childhood
Had such a good time with this game back in the day. Surprised this tech hasn't been brought to the modern generation with the freedom of these games. Edit: MIPS r5900 brings back memories. Writing homebrew for the PS2 was so fun and easy.
One of the cooler games of the era, and thank you for mentioning Paul Verhoeven's timeless masterpiece Total Recall, Alex. Now that's a film. This video is a great Sunday morning treat. Love the nostalgia so thick it needs a support crew, and the subsequent tech talk on the era.
I played this on a Pentium 3 @1GHz can't remember the GPU model, but it was an nVidia 128MB card. The recommended specs at the time was a P2-400MHz and 8MB GPU
HOLD IT MINER
Man what a classic game.
Love this game. Still got the big box PC version.
I love these Time Capsule videos! Please never stop!
The original red faction should really be remade. This game was awesome! It gave me a Total Recall vibe.
This game was really fun, I remember playing it on both the PS2 and on a G3 mac. RF2 was fun as well and it had some cool guns, but it was quite a different type of game.
You aren't wrong about the console development part - Prior to RF Volitions experience was either PC or the joystick controls - not controllers themselves, it was a big adjustment for both Summoner and Red Faction
Edit: If you happen to be interested, there is a mini-documentary called "The Secret History of Volition" - it describes their origins from the very first games they made including Descent and goes all the way up to ( I think) Red Faction Armageddon and SR3/4 ?
Edit Edit: I got to the part where i think you talked about the documentary and i feel silly :'D in any case, speaking directly to the N-gage, a community member did a full port of the Ngage version onto the PC using REDs level designer - so we have a PC version of the ngage that you can play from the mod set up in RF :D
Also Dash faction was recently updated to add auto saves to each physical level transition :D
OK final edit >< - RF2 was a console port rather than made on PC - the xbox version was the console of choice out of PS2/Xbox/Gamecube - I suspect that Outrage when they did the port didn't care to put a dedicated multiplayer out on it since their only official instruction was probably just get the game on PC. Even the customisation aspect of multiplayer on PC RF2 is diluted away from its console state.
One of my favs from teenage era, that game back in the day was super impressive... looking at it now - I'm still impressed, I think I will replay it with some ReShades to see how much you can improve it further. Props Alex for mentioning KMFDM - I think you're the first game-oriented media mentioning that band, and Industrial music at all!
I remember how awesome Red Faction was as a kid. Imagine what they could do with modern technology.
An Aliens style game in this kind of engine will have been amazing, a human base + tunnel's with a mistry and swarms of aliens.
oh man, been waiting for this DFR for a while. so many good memories with this title.
Playing Glas house map on my P-II 33mhz and TnT2 blown my mind back in days.
My best memory of red faction, 1/3 into the game, there was big metal door which If I believe correctly either a guard was suppose to open it for me or myself through a keypad lock, and by mistake I had either killed the guard or destroyed the keypad and quick saved the game. No other means to proceed I selected the rocket launcher and made a big hole in the wall beside that locked door and continued forward.
Man this brings back all the good memories. I loved both RF 1 and RF2 back then. Of course the new games specially Guerrilla was friggin' amazing. I had so much fun with my bros in RF2 multiplayer split screen. Man that framerate would chuuuug bug it sure was a blast! I even hooked up a keyboard and mouse on RF2 on the ps2. Sure it was way worse than the gamepad, but was really cool to have a kb/m on a console! I really hope this franchise isn't dead after Guerrilla. Anywho, loved the video John and Alex!
54:20 I've never related more with a moment than when he loads his save and realized how far back it was and just said "welp, that's Red Faction!" and quit lol
Oh right, Volition used to make good games back in the day!
Most importantly, more adventurous... But I guess the whole industry has moved in that direction
new volition sucks
@@DandelionVolta everything is sequels or reboots nowadays
All the talent that made their good games were let go or left years back.
They still make good games before they got shut down
I loved this game as a kid. I enjoyed the split screen DM on PS2 as well. Alternate fire modes for weapons felt like a whole new thing for me at the time. Thanks for showcasing this cool game. Always good to see games that tried something different.
Thank you for the nostalgia trip! I loved digging and digging on PC. I remember doing that with the drill for what had to be hours. It was also fun to create shortcuts and flank enemies. The 2nd game really dropped the ball on a lot of this, but I still enjoyed it for what it was. The following games were hit or miss, too.
I played this game for the first time a couple years ago and it was cool to be so impressed with a 20 year old game.
"PARTY TIME!" Now this is a game in need of a remaster/remake. Played the Ps2 version over and over again back in the day. That soundtrack, especially with the synths in calming and action scenarios was so perfect. The multiplayer is also top notch. Fast pace arena style, and it had bots! LRG recently did a physical PS4 copy. With the collectors edition coming in a PC Big Box style packaging. and a Vinyl of the soundtrack was only the icing. Also I hear you mention the Summoner game. Interestingly enough, the main menu on the PS2 has an option to view the Summoner trailer.
Remember playing the demo of this on PC. it made my Matrox graphics card cry.
I remember this being a sleeper hit from an unknown studio. I bought it only because it had this weird minimalistic cover (unlike most game covers at the time) and was about shooting things on Mars. And even though it was a very short game (can be completed in under 3 hours) - oh boy what a journey it was. Every level was an entirely different game mechanic. This is what we completely lost since late 00s - nowadays games just get one thing right and run with it until end credits with no variety.
PC Time Capsule videos are some of the best
Great work, Alex!
Very interesting and fun idea for the video. I hope you keep it going. Next maybe MGS2 PC time capsul vs PS2 ?
Loved like the first two thirds of the game, then the mercenaries with the rail guns were introduced and it became a nightmare.
RIP Volition
I loved this game. Had it on PS2 as a kid and been a big Red Faction fan ever sense. I'm actually playing through the 3rd game right now.
I just had the thought, “Alex and John could make a killer game.” Damn, I wish I was a billionaire and could fund a game with them leading it.
A billionaire? Games don't have to cost a billion dollars ya know...
Hahah dude I say the samething all the time. I'd build roller coasters for all my coaster enthusiasts buds, machine shop and wood working shop for all my friends and strangers who want to create something, fund video game development etc.
@@jonny-b4954 same!!! We could do so many cool positive things if we had a financial opportunity.
@@jonny-b4954 that's why crowd funding exists. it doesn't have to be one person... it's lots of ppl donating small sums
Building a game is a totally different ball game to commenting on games.
Maybe it's because I'm used to jank, but I think the N-Gage version actually looks pretty good, especially given the specs of that device and considering the era this came out in. Now I need to find a video of someone doing a full playthrough on that version.
PLEASE play Anachronox on the next Time Capsule. It's such a classic game from this era that was ahead of it's time, in my opinion. Love this series of videos though. My favorite on the channel where you just explore and comment on graphics and mechanics of old games on original hardware. Such a brilliant concept.
I think a large reason we didn't see many games implementing this level of destruction was because there was such a huge push to always use the hardware to maximum in order to get as-accurate-as-possible lighting, shadows, texture details and geometry. And the push is still happening despite it leveling out. I can imagine in order to get something combined like Red Faction 1 terrain destruction + Red Faction Guerrilla building destruction we'd need a game that pushes back to early PS4/Xbox One visuals. I mean the most terrain customizable games are typically far removed from realism for a reason.
mann this game brings back so many good memories. I never been a shooter game type of guy but this game takes the cake on that . 🙂
This game was a huge part of my teens. Probably a couple thousand hours in the online multiplayer.
Same here, played in the ESL with my clan till we were in the top 10. It was a blast playing it.
@@qualityexplained Heck yea! I was in a clan called HiVoltage, we played ESL as well
All lies.
@@PayneWewton Shut up, Leonard. I heard about your prescription socks.
@@fryrocks Nice! i was in Bad Angels. Were you guys in the european ladder? Don't recall HiVoltage, but perhaps we weren't around at the same time. Clans came and went in RF pretty quickly. I think the best team when i was around was ZiL Success
The bit with John Romero's Red Faction had me cackling at my office
I'm going back and watching this series. I love it and hope to see more
Played this game a crap ton back in the day. Was one of my earlier experiences playing it online over dial up. Game is still alot of fun today.
Oh I’ve been looking forward to this! 🙏
I just finished this game for the first time in 20 years last night .. and here it is on DF
I had this on PS2 when it first came out, fell in love with it. Played the PC version later on. I like that in the PC version you can play as the end-game story mode Mercenaries in multiplayer. I always thought they looked super cool.
One of my favourite games ever and I still play it to this day. Works great on Steam Deck, too.
Not gonna lie, these vids are the pinnacle of online entertainment imho. Please keep em coming :)
Parker's death screams are some of the most comically horrific ones I've ever heard in a video game.
Me and my friends had SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much fun with this game back in the day. We would make tunnels with the rockets, until the game's limit was hit and fight within and around them.
This and Red Dead Revolver were our favorite multiplayer games on PS2, other than WWF Smackdown 3, 4, 5 then Smackdown Vs. Raw.
I had a great time with this game back in the day!
This video is for us, old people, who were around at the time 😅
a game that is still ahead of so so so many others in 2022, its sad really
I bought the PS2 Classic version on PS4 around 4 years ago, having really enjoyed Red Faction Guerrilla on PS3 years ago and while not being a big FPS guy, I can appreciate these Half-Life era shooters. The game definetly felt extremely early-PS2, mainly due to the controls, but before I knew I spent all weekend playing through it twice to unlock most trophies. Really enjoyed it, but can only recommend it to those familiar with games and controls of that era.
17:02 when you're bragging about running the game at the highest settings and accidentally swallow a fly
Played so much of this online. Even made some maps. It played fantastic in multiplayer, but they abandoned it very early in despite some big exploits, and didn’t even bother with multiplayer for Red Faction 2.
This is one of my favorite fps games of all time. I can’t believe that twenty years later we still don’t have destructible environments. I thought after Red Faction that was the future. Nope. We need Volition to get back in the engine building game.
Red Faction is my 2nd favorite game series so any content about it will always go well \o/