I enter on the piano world a little ago and I watched your past an recent videos and I really noticed how you have changed your format. It’s been a really good improvement for all type of viewers, with shorter and more precise videos.
Another excellent review and low-key astonishingly beautiful playing, Stu. Thank you for this and all your videos. The RD-08 looks like an incredible value. Super tasty sounds, as you say. Cheers, Ben
Thanks for the video ! Whatever Stu plays, I'm down. While I'm not a roland fan anymore, I cannot but appreciate the sheer amount of sounds Roland puts into their lower budget instruments compared to literally every other company. Very good on their part.
You're welcome! And I definitely agree. It is really impressive to offer so much functionality and so many built-in sounds at a really attractive price point. :)
First and foremost, I would like to express my sincere gratitude for your time and clarifications. Your insights are greatly assisting me in making an informed decision. After carefully considering my options, I am inclined to choose the Roland RD-88 as my top purchasing choice. However, some aesthetic questions have arisen, which, while I understand are subjective, I deem it important to seek the opinion of an experienced professional who understands what may be both aesthetically pleasing and functional. I note that pianos from the FP series boast a rather appealing and elegant aesthetic. On the other hand, pianos from the RD series do not possess the same beauty and elegance, with the exception of the RD-2000. Considering that even though the FP-E50 may be more limited in some synthesizer functions and has a smaller quantity of sounds compared to the RD-88 (though it still maintains a considerable variety), and taking into account that I do not intend to use accompaniments, although I acknowledge that this option is available, I perceive it as more elegant. To dispel my final doubts, I would like to know: Can the FP-E50 be connected to Apple Mainstage? Can the FP-E50 be connected to the Roland S-1 Synth and provide more distortion options than the RD-88, using the sound of the FP-E50? Does RD-88 have Ambience? Studio, Lounge, Concert Hall, Cathedral? Does RD-88 have Depth? 10 types My e-mail is: pt.marcelo@gmail.com My Whatsapp is +34635376938
You're very welcome! That is totally fair. The aesthetic quality of an instrument is very frequently a factor given the amount of floor space a piano occupies. To that point, the FP-E50 is a very impressive piano with an incredible feature offering of course. To answer your questions, the FP-E50 can be connected to Apple Mainstage or the Roland S-1 synth as it does possess MIDI connectivity. You could use the MIDI output of the FP-E50 to control the sounds of these plugins and synths. The RD88 does have 6 types of reverb. However, I don't believe there is a depth parameter.
Stu, thanx a ton! For your immensly inspirational videos. I do not how you do it, but I just can not stop watching any of your revews despite not going to buy all the keys you dive in 😂. Just some of them...
Roland needs to be careful about how this is sold if it isn't to damage its brand. It's perfectly natural to look at a sticker price, notice a hardware port, and expect basic functionality for that port to be enabled as soon as you pay the sticker price. If retailers aren't careful, customers are going to feel deceived.
While I understand the sentiment, the goal of the RD08 was to offer a more affordable alternative for customers that love the RD88 offering, but don't require certain features and functions. Overall, it was a decision to make the product more accessible.
Imao it's just like the comparison of RD-700nx and RD-300nx in the past, like 2 brothers; big bro & little bro. I love 700nx but if I cannot afford it, I'd go for 300nx. As I owned RD-88, I feel the same way as 300nx to RD-08 and I belieive the 08 will answer the call for many customers, especially for amatuers to semi-pro players who focus on playing a live session more than a big stage or in a studio. RD-08 will surely do the job fine.
On Roland web site only USB MIDI connectivity is listed. I don't see USB audio anywhere. I don't think Casio has USB audio either. Yamaha advertises embedded audio interface and ability to send digital audio in and out over USB for many its products. Those who need it would not buy Roland or Casio in the first place. You have to do some research and read specs / manual before buying.
@@MerriamPianosbut us it reliable with players like me that play a lot if gigs?? My modx8 keybed is crap, plays random notes in humidity and needs 4 hour cleaning of keybed contacts every year. Please advise??
Love your playing Stu, great playing man! I'm just disappointed at the fact that this is really a rehash of the RD-88. I suspect RD-88 never sold well and Roland had extra chassis and decided to make this. I don't agree that leaving the USB Audio out (as a $299 upgrade to begin with) is a good idea because I believe this keyboard is good for lightweight travels, and combined with an iPad, you can have yourself a really powerhouse, just look at the CK88. If anything, I think the CK88 provides much better value than this, as that also has Bluetooth. Anyways, I'd be interested in a comparison between the CK88 and the RD-08, that'd be interesting.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for tuning in and sharing your thoughts! I will be happy to pass on your kind words to Stu. At the end of the day, the decision comes down to the needs of the individual player. The goal of this offering was to make the amazing core musical experience of the RD88 more accessible to customers looking in lower price categories. With that said, for customers that need the full range of features and functions, the RD88 still holds up as an excellent bet.
The lack of USB Audio ($299 is way too much) is the exact and only reason, why I won't buy it. I was looking for a good piano to also use with my IPad, but I won't spend these $299 extra.
You’re very impressed with the speakers, but the RD-88 speakers often received lacklustre reviews. Do you know, or is it your experience the RD-08 speakers perform better than those in the RD-88?
On paper they might be. Would be good to have a side by side comparison though. There might have been a hardware/software or physical cabinet acoustic improvement. Im just intrigued by Stu’s reaction. Maybe the expectation was not very high so the expectation was sufficiently exceeded. Comparatively, if the speakers were expected to perform like the FP30x then the speakers would have disappointed. Hopefully my local store will have one on the shelf soon.
Always love to watch Stu’s vids. Would like to know more from him personally about the perceived difference between the speakers on the RD-08 compared to the RD-88.
Love your videos. I am a senior giving pianist and prefer the lightest equipment. When I was young a carried a Rhodes but put wheels on it. Had the Rd 700, Rd 800, and the Yamaha C4 Stage piano . Recently bought the Roland FP 30X . Not happy with the navigation but sounds and plays good. Although it is personal, which keyboard do you prefer base on sound ( mostly piano) and feel between the FP 30x and the RD 08? Thank you. Steve
Hi Steve! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks so much for tuning in! We're happy to hear that you have been enjoying Stu's video reviews/comparisons! The FP30X is a fantastic piano that provides a wonderful playing experience, but I do agree that the navigation is a little more difficult due to the lack of a screen. The speakers are more powerful on the FP30X than the RD08, so I would personally give an edge to the FP30X in terms of the sonic experience and bass response. Both pianos have the same feel though given the use of the PHA4 action.
I have been playing the RD-700 w SRX-11 piano card since they came out. I recently bought the RD-2000 but sold it within months as it doesn't have the piano from the SRX-11 card. I'm currently in limbo and can't find anything to beat it as I'm really not a fan of the modeled pianos.
No Bluetooth... That confirms my choice to get the Casio PX S3100! As a home user only, having Bluetooth is a must and really adds to the enjoyment and overall experience
That is certainly fair. Every piano shopper will have to make determinations on their specific needs and desires in terms of musical experience and feature offering. :)
Beautiful piano, feels good,,,1 minus point: when I played for the second time on my new 08, the display turned upside down, just when I was playing in a Bigband on stage, so I could not change my patches/presets, became unreadeble.
That is very strange! I haven't used it extensively, so I haven't seen that particular issue present. But, I can certainly understand why that would be frustrating.
Thank you Stu for this excellent review! Other than the speakers, is there any improvement or update to the sounds or sound quality when compared to the RD-88?
Hi! Brent here! Thank you kindly! We're glad you enjoyed the review. The RD08's speakers seem to be a bit nicer sounding (at least to my ears), but, beyond that, the RD88 is still the superior model in terms of specs and capabilities.
Hey Stu, thanks for the great review as always! Would be great to see a comparison between these RD-08/RD-88 and FP30x/FP60x especially on the piano sound and speakers
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for the suggestion! I'll be happy to pass the suggestion along to our production team. I'm sure they will do their best to tackle that for you. :)
Excellent overview!! I'm seriously considering selling my FP10 (I use for casual practice) and add some $$$ and getting the RD08 to take to gigs. I gig with my FA-08 and VR-730. The FA-08 is about 7 pounds heavier. The weight is not that big a deal, but the RD08 is smaller overall. Not as long as the FA08 and some stages can be tight. The built in speakers make casual playing easier too. And I must mention , like the VR-730, all the lettering is white on black. With the FA-08, the glossy plastic and mirror lettering and red lettering pretty much disappear at certain angles in good light and at any angle under stage lights. Especially when they cycle to red. Same for the JD-XA and JD-Xi. I have the latter and it goes to gigs too. It came with black overlays with white lettering, which I put on it and left on it. Roland offers overlays for the FA series and now that it's on my mind, I'm going to go order them as soon as I post this before I forget.
Thank you so much! The RD08 is definitely worth consideration based on your context of use. Roland has packed a lot of value and functionality in this model at a really wonderful price. :)
Thank you kindly! They're literally the same piano with a few minor differences. The RD08 does not include the USB audio interface (without paying the upgrade fee) and there are four less buttons on the control interface. If you are using the piano in conjunction with VST plugins, the RD88 EX would be the more appropriate option. If you are not using the piano with VST plugins, the RD08 will offer virtually the same musical experience. :)
Im buying this piano thanks for the video 💕 your video always gives me a good and true knowledge to make my own opinion hope i like it this piano thanks
You're welcome! Thank you for taking the time to watch the video. We're glad you found it helpful. The RD08 is an amazing instrument with a ton of features. :)
Thanks for the prompt review on this exciting product. I have always admired the RD series, except for one thing - no music rests. This model seems to be no exception. Come on Roland, make a 76-key model with a detachable metal music rest! This would save space on the band stand, and in the car too. The first RD I ever saw had 76 keys. Anyway, I expect the RD-88 itself will be withdrawn. That makes me a little sad.
You're welcome! Thank you for taking the time to tune in! While I understand the frustration of not having a built-in music desk, given that it is meant for stage use opposed to at-home practice, I suppose Roland has their reasons for not including that feature on these models. That is where a model like the FP-E50 might be the preference.
I hear you on a 76 key version and for the same reasons. With a PHA-4 keybed. Not some semi-weighted cheaped out one. At least Roland seems to have dropped the super soft plastic and reflective lettering like on my FA-08 and JD-Xi.
@@PatrickRosenbalm Yes, absolutely! Almost every time a shorter keyboard is mentioned, the manufacturers presume that a fully weighted action isn't necessary. Now that Yamaha has withdrawn the P-121, the only remaining shorter piano with a graded weighted action is the Korg SV2-73, with or without monitor speakers. It is too expensive for the non-professional pianists or as a backup pro piano, and it's a bit heavy too. So an "RD-07" with PHA-4 would be perfect.
@@Zoco101 There are Nord Piano 73, Nord Stage 73, Nord Electro HP. There is much cheaper option also - Studiologic SL73 (about $500). It is a MIDI keyboard.
What Roland do you think is best for various genres etc? I love Roland but have always played pianos and pipe organs. I definitely love the demos on this video and think it would be perfect for what I need for now. The price is good but RD88 is only $100 more. Which has the most options?
The RD88 is a powerhouse for the money (especially at the sale pice here in Canada). It is very versatile given the extensive offering of onboard sounds. That would be one of my top suggestions along with the FP-E50. :)
They are both wonderful instruments. It really depends on the context of use. If the additional features and instrument sounds are appealing, the RD08 presents an attractive cost-to-value ratio. :)
I am going to get something for my wife to start playing again after her 8 year hiatus. I was trying to decide between the FP-60x and The FP-e50. Now there is an RD-08 in the mix. It makes me wonder I’d I should just pony up for the RD-88. This is just getting very confusing now, LOL.
These are all excellent instruments of course! With that said, they are very different offerings. The two RD models are designed for stage use. As such, they have lower powered speakers and a lot of built-in sounds/features. If your wife is going to primarily use the piano for piano playing/practicing, I would recommend the FP60X. It has the nicest piano experience of all the pianos on this list, namely due to the superior top facing speaker system. Thanks and hope this helps a bit! :)
@@MerriamPianos I am having the same question. I want to buy a piano for my daughter. Want it to last at least 10 years. And I hope Roland will last 10 years ? 🙏 Cannot decide between RD08 and FPe50 . If I use external speaker which one had the better sound ?
Hi! Brent here! If you are mainly looking for an instrument with the better piano experience, the ES920 would definitely be my suggestion. The RD08 is a great instrument, but it has a very different intended use.
Great review and playing as usually. Can you please make a review of a new RD 88 EX, especially if there any hardware changes like speaker volume / EQ etc. ?
Thank you! We are still awaiting our first shipment of the new RD88EX and RD2000EX models, but you can definitely bank on reviews for these new models coming your way soon. :)
You're very welcome! I am not sure if I understand the question. The FP30X's piano tone would certainly be a good fit for church worship and a stage model like the RD08 or RD88 would be excellent for performance settings in which more instrument sounds are required other than piano. :)
I almost lost it the moment I received the email from Roland, just hoping and wishing it was the update for the RD-2000 I’ve been waiting for BUT it was not. ROLAND RD-2000 update! ROLAND RD-2000 update! ROLAND RD-2000 update! :)
As always a great video. I have a Kawai ES-920 but find it's a little on the large size but I love the key action. What would you say regarding the action on the RD-08 does it compare or is it far off. I would like the Roland due to it's size, but key action is important for me. Thank you.
Thank you kindly! The RD08 has an excellent key action. The PHA4 action on the RD08 is actually a touch heavier than the ES920, but it does have an impressively authentic feel. It is certainly a more compact design, which makes it quite attractive as a gigging instrument.
@@MerriamPianos Thanks for your reply, I like the look and sound of the RD 08, the best thing I can do is gets my hands on one at a local dealer, I have a feeling I'll end up swapping out the Kawai, just too big. ATB, Mark.
Some people will not be a fan of that aspect of course, but, for those that don't require that feature, it does help to keep the price point of the product itself down.
@@MerriamPianos Yes, but it doesn't cost them money to activate it. It is already there, it is just greed from their part. If they had a RD08b without the hardware I would understand.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks so much for the suggestion! I will pass it along to our production team on your behalf. I'm sure they will do their best to tackle that review for you. :)
Does the 3-zone limitation in the RD-08 (and RD-88) impact the sound compared to the 16-zones on the Fantom? Or does it merely limit the amount of separate zones on the keyboard? Is the amount of partials per tone not restricted?
Hi there! I was under the impression that it just limited the amount of separate zones on the keyboard, but I have not directly experimented with the impact (if any) on the actual pianos' sound. We will likely be posting follow-up comparisons that feature the RD08, so I will pass this question along to our production team and, perhaps, we can tackle it in a future video.
Hi! Brent here! I believe it is only compatible with PC or Mac, but I am not sure entirely sure to be honest. I would have to inquire with our Roland reps.
what do you think of the kawai vpc1 as of today ? I already have monitors and vsts from my guitar setup so I don't care about that, cost is similar to this ( at least in EU ) & everyone seems to praise it as the best feeling to actual pianos, but i'm wondering if it's outdated since 2013 release
The RD-08 costs almost the same as the RD-88, and in addition to that, the practice of requiring buying extra "licenses" for core features, means we should definitely send a message to Roland, don't do this, by avoiding this thing. Buy the RD-88 if you can if you want this, IMO.
If it was possible to install Pianteq Pianos with the with "Pro" adjustments it could be a very viable way top go.. However it seems most everyone would want USB.
My guess is the price of the RD 88 is going to go up a few hundred dollars to create a filler gap between product lines. Later you would basically have to catch the pianos on sale to get the current prices.
Nice review, I am evaluating getting one instead of the RD-88 (don't know if is worth paying the extra), also, I was wondering, does it has Rhythms included? can you save songs in memory?
Thanks so much! I don't believe the RD08 includes rhythms nor does it have onboard recording to save songs/performances, but you can record MIDI and audio onto a USB stick. :)
I'm new to the piano having started lessons last September. I turned 60 in December so it's just a hobby for me. I currently have the Roland FP10 but want to upgrade to something with a more realistic sound. I prefer the richer sound of Roland over Yamaha. Any suggestions on what might suit me? I've watched the review on here of the FP90X and wondered if that might suit me?
The Roland FP90X would certainly be a meaningful upgrade from the already fantastic FP10! That would be the next step up in terms of the action/tactile experience of the piano. The FP30X and FP60X are great pianos that are a step up from the FP10 as well, but they feature the same PHA4 action. In that respect, the FP90X will feel like a more substantial upgrade. :)
David, all I can say that I returned (after a few months of use) my FP-90X - mostly because its weight. I am a bit older than you and I could not carry it between floors, if I needed to. I like PHA50 though.
Dear Stu, thank's for this review. One question about Supernatural engine and difference with the rd88. Roland rd08 specifications mention supernatural acoustic piano no 3. No such number for the rd88. Is there a difference between those two engines and two keyboards concerning acoustic piano rendition ? Thank's for your comment.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for tuning! We're glad you enjoyed Stu's review. While the core Concert Grand piano tone from the SuperNATURAL tone engine is the same, the RD88 does have a more extensive piano tone offering if you compare the sound lists. So, to that point, some of the additional piano sounds differ between these two RD models.
Having to pay to enable hardware that's already built-in is a no-go. As the hardware is built into every unit, each unit costs them the same whether it's enabled or not. But by putting a price tag on enabling the built-in hardware it allows them to exploit the customer for an extra pile of cash.
I do understand that there is a bit of difference between limiting access to something physically on the product (such as the USB audio interface) versus access to additional sample sets and functions, but the intention of it is to offer the RD08 at a lower price point and make the amazing RD line even more accessible.
Would you say that an rd-08 vs PX-S3100 comparison would mirror your video on the rd-88 vs PX-S6000? Kind of wondering what sacrifices are made for the lower price in each of those instruments.
The PXS3100 uses an all plastic key action opposed to the wood/resin composite of the PXS6000. The PXS6000 also has higher quality piano sample sets. The RD08 and RD88 are much more similar. The only real differences between them are four lesson buttons and a locked USB audio interface on the RD08. You can unlock the USB audio interface functionality for a fee though.
Hi! Brent here! We are not Korg dealers, so it is difficult to tackle reviews/comparisons on their models. Sometimes, we get Korg pianos on trade, so we will do our best to include them in reviews/comparisons if the model is current and relevant.
The speaker systems are superior on the FP60X and FP90X, so the presentation of the core piano sound will be better. It is also important to note that the FP90X uses a different tone engine, so there is also the element of musical preference between different tone engines and their core piano sounds.
Subscription option to use the usb midi port? Wow..that's a first. So this is certainly not for home studio users unless you have deep pockets. I still want the option to use piano VSTs and record on my DAW.
The Roland RD88 piano (the bigger brother to the RD08) would give you that option. The RD08 is a bit more of streamlined piano without the upgrade unlocked. The goal of this was to make this type of stage piano more accessible to players on a tighter budget.
Hi! Brent here! It really depends on context of use. If you're going to be using the piano primarily for piano practice, the FP60X would be the best bet as it has a richer sonic experience. If you need additional features and built-in sounds for production/performance, the RD08 would be the ideal choice. :)
It really comes down to a matter of personal tastes and preferences. They are both wonderful instruments, but they offer a very different musical experience. I would recommend testing out the RD08 in person to see how you favour it in comparison to your current PXS3100.
I might trade up to an RD-88 from the PX-S3100, but not the RD-08. The 3100 is a very close competitor, and includes some things the 08 lacks, such as optional battery power, a music rest and quality samples of several German pianos. Unless you are very unhappy with an aspect of the PX-S3100, I think you should wait a while for a bigger upgrade.
Please: 1. Do you know whether Roland will go for a 73 or76 keys version. Something more portable would be finally nice ;) 2. Is there a possibility to change temperament (werckmeister, kirnberger....)?
Hi there! We have not received any word from Roland about a 73 or 76 key version of the RD08, but we will keep you posted if we do. Also, I am not entirely sure as to whether the RD08 has the capacity to change temperament, but, if I recall correctly, the RD88 had a "custom temperament" parameter, so I imagine it should be present on the RD08 as well given the similarities between the feature offering.
@@MerriamPianos Thank you for your answer and please let us know if you hear 73/76 is coming, there is surely a lot of us who would go for such more portable version :)
Roland fp 30x piano vs rd08 which has a good piano sound when connected to external speaker. Rd 88 seems bit thin and sharp piano.l want a thick piano sound.
I would give the edge to the FP30X for the core piano sound. It also has higher powered speakers, which provide a better sonic experience, if you're using the onboard speakers. The RD-08 and RD-88 are designed to be stage pianos, hence the plethora of sounds and features they offer. Ultimately, it is a different intended use than personal piano practice.
Well, this model does come with a USB to connect a computer, but is not enabled! only after an upgrade for 300USD. But can I use the MIDI interface to connect to my computer??
Currently a difference of £135 between RD88 and RD08 in the UK. Is the RD88 just not selling well or something? Both sound great and look great, just don't understand why there's two...
It certainly isn't because the RD88 is not selling well. It is quite the contrary over here in Canada! It is a very popular model due to the cost-to-value ratio it offers. The goal of the RD08 is to offer piano shoppers in a lower price bracket a stage piano with most of the same functionality as the popular RD88.
Hi there! I am not entirely sure as I have not used the MC101 (it is not a product that we carry here at Merriam Music). With that said, I imagine there is a lot of overlap in terms of the sounds featured on the RD08 model. :)
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for the suggestion! The FP-E50 and RD08 would be a very interesting comparison to tackle given the comparable price point and overlap of certain key features. We will do our best to tackle that as soon as possible. :)
I'd have far more buyers remorse for the FP E50 that I just bought, but there doesn't seem to be any record capabilities on this. I'm sure there will be somethin newer or better released in a ocuple that will make me want to upgrade... Now... If Ford only made a little Maverick with a full bed or a transit that was a hybrid...
While there is definitely some overlap, particularly with the ZEN-Core functionality, there are still enough distinctions between the FP-E50 and RD08 to justify both of them existing in Roland's catalogue.
Many thanks for quick answer! Regarding the purchase options between the FP-E50, RD-08, and RD-88: How can I determine which of these models is the best choice for me, considering my preferences for a more compact-sized instrument and not requiring built-in accompaniments and drum kits? Considering the need for an upgrade to access features like Galaxies, is it more worthwhile to invest in the RD-88? Does the FP-E50 truly offer all the features of the RD-08 and RD-88, including access to Galaxias, or are there any significant differences between them? ( I know that sounds are much less for FPE-50) About real-time adjustment functionalities in the RD-08 and RD-88 models: When I adjust a "scene" using the potentiometer and save those settings, are the adjustments made with the potentiometer saved? If not, how does this affect the usability of these models compared to the FP-E50? In the case of the FP-E50, is it possible to make these adjustments digitally, without relying on physical potentiometers? Regarding the unlock state of the FP-E50: Does the FP-E50 come fully unlocked, allowing immediate access to all its features and functionalities? Or are there any restrictions or additional upgrade needs to access certain features? My thinking about all this quiestions is: -Im not a professional and also dont have any intention to be ( just want to buy a good and beautiful piano) -I dont know what kind of need I can have in the future, and its better be prepared with samething that can be usefull. -Its the PIANO sound of RD-08 or RD-88 much better tha FPE-50 or only little bit? and for me its look like that option that RD-08 /RD-88 have to open the tone of Grand Piano ate the same to FPE-50 when open the LID. Please can you help me to really find the best option for me? I love your coments and will be greatfull with your help
You're very welcome! I am happy to help. :) It really comes down to a matter of personal preference. No one can make the decision for a piano player other than the player themselves. If you don't require built-in accompaniments and drum kits, I think it would be logical to mark the FP-E50 off the list as that is one of the primary features that model offers. If you are looking to use Galaxias or VST plug-ins in conjunction with your piano, the RD88 seems to be the logical choice as the price point will be virtually the same if you pay for the RD08 upgrade. In terms of saving settings, some settings are accessed purely digitally and can be stored, while others are connected to knobs, wheels, and other controls on the control panel. That is the case with virtually all of the models in discussion. The FP-E50 comes "fully-unlocked," but, naturally, there are certain features and functionalities it may not possess. The questions you've listed at the bottom of your comment are all valid and the best way to answer them is to spend some time with each model if possible. Getting to play them at a piano showroom will help provide more clarity as sometimes it is just a "feel" thing. You may naturally gravitate more towards the sound, touch, or navigation of a particular model. With that said, based on your comment, the RD88 seems to be the model that is most aligned with what you're looking for.
Hi! Brent here! Given that this is a brand new model, I have not taken a full deep dive into the tone list. While I am sure there are comparable sounds to the MKS20 samples, I am not positive as to whether the same samples found in the RD2000 are present in this case. The RD2000 has more tone engines and libraries on it than the RD08 model does.
Right now, Roland RD88s go in my local shop for HK$7800, and RD08 is not available in HK yet but costs US$999. When the RD08 comes, it'd probably start off at about the same price as the RD88, so what am I gaining or losing?
The RD88 is certainly more feature-rich, but the core technology and features are quite comparable. The biggest difference is the number of "Scenes." The RD88 offers 400 versus the RD08's 100.
Get the RD-88 if you can. The RD-08 is the same as the RD-88, but some features are locked behind a paid update, which essentially brings you back to the same feature set of the RD-88.
In this video, Stu covers they key differences. One of the major differences is that the RD08 only offers 100 scenes versus the RD88's 400. The RD08 also does not include an audio-interface and use of the Roland Cloud (without an additional unlocking fee).
Hi there! I believe that particular voice is on most Roland digital piano models, including the RD08. With that said, I'm not currently at a showroom to test out the RD08 to verify. Perhaps, one of our community members here can verify. :)
I think that I want to buy this keyboard in a few months (still saving). I thought that I heard Stu say it (4:40-5:50), but, for verification, I have only 1 question: Can you layer 3 voices on this keyboard or is the layer limited to 2 voices?
Hi there! I believe you can in fact layer three sounds on the RD08 just like you can on the RD88. The following product support video from Roland walks you through how to do it on the RD88: ruclips.net/video/20ApxXTpOZ8/видео.html
I'd probably take this over the CK-88 any day. But considering the RD-88 is only about 200 euros more, the advantage completely diminishes the moment you decide to get an upgrade. Also hiding the already implemented (in hardware) audio interface behind a software kill switch that you need to unlock for a hefty price tag is lame. Of course it's not just Roland that does that. Besides the price (and maybe the speakers?) is there any advantage to this over the RD-88 that would make you buy it even though in the end it may cost more than the RD-88?
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! It is a matter of opinion of course as to which model is the better value buy. With that said, despite the speakers being rated the same, the RD08 model appears to have more cutting and nicer sounding speakers (at least that was my first impression). For a 12W system, it was quite impressive!
I agree, locking out hardware features for a subscription based activation is a slippery slope and not the behaviour I would expect from a company like Roland.
No there isn't any advantage over the RD-88. Essentially, if you are not looking for too much from a stage piano, then this would be an option, it's just so hard to justify when this board is the RD-88 minus features locked behind a paid software update.
You're lucky that you don't buy the CK88 just yet. I just bought it last week then this product suddenly came out. I really wanted to buy rd-88 but I can't cuz I'm over budget (IDR 16,8 millions on CK88 to IDR 20 millions on RD-88). Now this RD-08 came out here around IDR 17 millions which surprisingly overpriced compared to the US. But then I don't know how i feel right now since this audio interface locked down version is very unacceptable for me. Ck88 is better in that regard
@@rizkipuruze based on that I wouldn't buy it. I'd prefer the RD-88. Nothing wrong with the CK-88 really, I'm just mostly certain I would prefer PHA4 over GHS.
How many Acoustic piano sounds does it have ? This keyboard seems to offer so much for the price it has me wondering why someone would rather have a similarly priced electric piano with way less sounds ? . Like a Yamaha p225. Is there a reason im not seeing ?
With over 3000 tones, there are virtually countless piano options available on the RD08. There are 67 piano tones in the main acoustic piano bank though. In terms of why someone would choose another instrument over the RD08 at this price point, it all depends on context of use. The RD08 is a stage piano with thousands of sounds. However, other features, like the speaker system, are a bit more streamlined/basic. So, for players that are only going to be using piano sounds, they may opt for another instrument with fewer sounds, but a better speaker system to enjoy the core piano experience.
All features are already there in terms of hardware just locked via software and the key is tied to a Roland Cloud account. Its not really about reaching a lower price point for consumers, its about what will Roland lock away in their future products. They think its for consumers but its not.
It is an interesting paradigm that has now been introduced to the realm of digital pianos, so I suppose time will tell whether this was a bit of an experimental proposition or something that will be more longstanding (and potentially the norm for most manufacturers in the industry).
I am fine with it. I prefer to pay less and use my own Digital Audio Interface (Focusrite Scarlett). Even when I had digital pianos with Digital Audio Interface (I had ten digital pianos, including Roland FP-90X and Yamaha P-515) I liked using Scarlett with my piano VSTs. I may buy the RD-08 Cloud Update later if I need to. I like simplicity of RD-08. Michael
I'm not a Roland fan, but let's just hope they don't think of other things to lock, and that other digital piano manufactures don't start coppying this idea🎹🎶
Guys. I need some help, please. I know its kinda “my problem”, but you guys are piano experts and know a lot about piano. So id ask you: What Piano exactly is the youtuber “Willskeyboardsink” using? I can see that its a shigeru kawai (Either Sk2 or Sk3). But I’ve listened to some Shigeru Kawai pianos and the tone is very different from that RUclipsr’s piano. You can listen to some of his music especially fantaisie impromptu. His Piano’s tone is very special, and i like it alot. Could someone help me know EXACTLY what piano he is using? Or atleast what Piano has a similar tone to his?
Hi there! Unfortunately, because of the way the videos are shot, it is impossible to gauge the depth of the instrument to determine if it is an SK2 or SK3. Keep in mind that pianos can be voiced in a number of different ways by technicians. The Shigeru Kawai pianos are capable of a wide range of tonal output. I'm sorry I can't be of more assistance on this front, but I can attest to the amazing musical potential of the Shigeru Kawai SK models. :)
If you were designing a digital piano, how would you do it? Maybe a voice control thing similar to Alexis? For stage use it might have a dedicated headphone/earbud output? As you may have noticed, the P-125 & P-121 have audible confirmation on a few of the settings. The new P-225 probably has this too. On the simpler dps with no screens and menus, this could be extended to everything, but on this instrument it would need something more sophisticated.
As @Zoco101 mentioned, I think a voice control feature would be quite helpful in this regard. Perhaps, some manufacturers will start including this type of technology in their models in the near future.
@@Zoco101 I was thinking of not removing the physical interface. Perhaps voice accessibility could work as long as only the musician can here it, and if the band they're playing with isn't that loud, although listening to it talking can get annoying over time. At least with physical buttons you can feel your way around things, although I guess these stage pianos have way too meny features that you would still need a touchscrean to have access to meny of the features🎹🎶
But the RD88 has USB audio enabled? I hear it's cost a lot to have it enabled with RD08. At least what i got from the reviews from amazon. "Turns out you have to pay $300 more to activate the USB port and make this thing a MIDI controller"
Yes, the RD88 has the USB audio interface enabled. The RD08 was really designed to offer a similar instrument at a lower price point for customers that don't require certain features.
Is there any chance you can do a review of the rd-08 with the paid for software upgrade using the supernatural acoustic piano engine 3 . Can’t find a review or demo for that software upgrade anywhere which is exclusive to the rd-08 I think it also enables the usb audio interface and a few other things . But I believe it’s 300us extra :(
Thanks for the suggestion! I will pass it along to our production team that makes decisions on the video topics. It would certainly be worth tackling a review of the unlocked RD08. We will do our best to do so for you. :)
@@MerriamPianosThat will be great. I think u guys will be the first to review online the supernatural acoustic piano 3 engine if upgraded. As always great job on the reviews . Cheers .
@@DL-kc2mw I’ve looked everywhere for even an audio demo of the supernatural acoustic piano 3 and I can’t find it anywhere. A bit strange how silent this upgraded engine has been . Very curious to know how the piano sounds
@@DL-kc2mw it very well may be the tipping point for buyers on the fence to justify the added cost of the rd-08 over the fp-e50 and fp30x/60x . If the piano engine itself is upgradeable and more future proof.
The navigation is not the most user friendly of course, but the RD08 still holds up as a powerhouse for the price. Sometimes, these concessions are made to keep the enclosure more compact. This is especially true when the instrument is intended to be a portable, gigging piano.
You don't have to pay to use the RD08 as a MIDI controller. It will still output MIDI data. However, if you want to use it with DAW integration, that does cost extra money.
Interesting interpretation on the function of the audio interface. The most expensive part of an audio interface is the hardware. You already paid for the hardware. To use said hardware, you have to pay again. If the original owner sells his/her device, the lifetime license stays with the person who purchased the license, not the new owner. They get to buy it again. It would be more intellectually honest to omit the hardware completely or include the functionality by default. Like a lot of companies, Roland is looking for opportunities for secondary and residual revenues by selling “features” and subscriptions. While it’s a great move for the organization, it’s terrible for consumers.
While I understand the sentiment to some extent, it is important to consider that all of the sample sets and patches that Roland has made available via the Roland Cloud cost time, money, and resources to develop. So, there is logic in having access to those assets come with a fee. This also allows customers that will never utilize that tech and functionality to have a cheaper option (RD08).
@@MerriamPianos Nobody disputes things cost money. They always do. What I have an issue with is selling the use of hardware already paid for. This is just like BMW’s subscription for heated seats already installed and paid for by consumer. It’s a secondary monetization stream that has nothing to do with Roland Cloud’s traditional offerings. Conflating additions with enabling what is already there isn’t helpful. With those, you are atleast getting something new added. This new audio interface racket just allows you to use hardware you already paid for just as BMW was charging customers to use the heating elements already installed in their seats and paid for in the purchase price of a new car. You not saving people money who don’t need the audio interface. You’re making them pay for something they don’t need in hardware. Then making them pay again if they decide to use it. If they sell it, the new owner will pay again to have access to the same feature the previous owner already paid for. Once again, it is more intellectually honest to delete the hardware and drop the cost accordingly or include the feature by default because you already paid for the hardware to be designed and manufactured inside the keyboard. It’s patronizing to tell people they are saving money by paying for the hardware only and not getting the feature unlocked.
“You already paid for the hardware.” No, you didn’t. You took it home with you, but you didn’t pay for it. It starts working when you buy it. This seems totally reasonable to me (assuming the consumer’s price is, indeed, discounted accordingly).
@@matthewgaines10 “What I have an issue with is selling the use of hardware I already paid for.” But you didn’t. You didn’t pay for it. You just took it home. That hardware wasn’t included in the cost of sale. That’s the deal. If you paid for it, did you get a receipt? 😉 Where’s the evidence people are paying for this hardware upon their initial purchase of the unit? What makes you think they are paying for it at that time? Obviously I agree it would be terrible if people had to pay for the same audio interface twice. But that doesn’t seem to be what’s happening here - if we’re being intellectually honest and all.
For me , it feels like like Roland has really been letting the customers down... As good as the PHA4 action is, it's already old at this point. The PHA50 had to be the new standard to be used in all newer models, and weight it's not really an excuse. Roland is not stepping up the game anymore, they are just making "fill" products now.
For some models, portability is a key requirement of the design (based on the intended context of use - such as gigging). Also, I would push back on the notion that Roland is not stepping up the game anymore. I would recommend exploring the new Roland GP and LX models. The work that Roland has done with physical modelling and dynamic sensor systems is extremely impressive.
@@MerriamPianos New LX series is the real deal indeed and it's price point is not as bad. Perhaps I should have mentioned that what I said, is targeted more towards any of the portables. Still I'd like to emphasize that not using a better action on that model or other "portables" is not a decision made with portability in mind. I'm patiently waiting for a replacement of the RD-2000, but I'm guessing we'll not be getting a better action on it.
@@MerriamPianos I like my RD-88 - bought it because of your demos! However the UI is pretty bad - even for the 90's. But the sounds and keybed are excellent. Thanks for your demos!
I always love your playing but don’t think the piano sound stands out to me as much as they do on the Kawai’s. For the price, id still buy that if i couldn’t afford anything else
Hi! Brent here! That is certainly fair. Tone preferences are very personal and subjective. Some players may gravitate towards warm piano tones, while others gravitate towards bright piano tones.
Seems like RD08 is designed for stage performance only. I don't know why it even needs speakers. Without speakers it would be lighter. For studio / home use there are much better options. I don't think RD08 has any drum kits. Recently I needed darbuka sounds. Yamaha DGX-670 which is $200 cheaper has them in the Turkish kit. If I had Roland I would need to buy Turkish / Arabic drum kit / VST somewhere else. User interface also looks 20 years old.
I think it is certainly fair to say that the Roland RD08 is positioned to be a stage/performance instrument opposed to a true workstation/production instrument. However, it does have some crossover features that could allow it to serve that function depending on the specific context of use.
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I enter on the piano world a little ago and I watched your past an recent videos and I really noticed how you have changed your format. It’s been a really good improvement for all type of viewers, with shorter and more precise videos.
Thank you kindly! I will happily pass on those kind words to our production team. :)
Another excellent review and low-key astonishingly beautiful playing, Stu. Thank you for this and all your videos. The RD-08 looks like an incredible value. Super tasty sounds, as you say. Cheers, Ben
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for tuning in! We're glad you enjoyed Stu's review and playing. The RD08 is definitely an impressive machine! :)
Only watching him play has helped me develops my own ideas composing my own songs from scratch
That is awesome to hear! Thank you for tuning in! :)
Beautiful playing before cudos for the RD-08!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you kindly! :)
*kudos
This is the video I have been waiting for. Thank you Stu
You're considering getting one?🎹🎶
@@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 Yes, indeed. I will decide today. 😊
@@mfurman that's great🎹🎶
You're very welcome! Thank you for tuning in! :)
@@MerriamPianosI am ordering it from Merriam music today 😊
Thank you!
You just answered 2 questions I had- bluetooth and the 3 pedals. You can’t imagine how helpful your channel is. Thanks so much!
You're very welcome! :)
Thanks for the video ! Whatever Stu plays, I'm down. While I'm not a roland fan anymore, I cannot but appreciate the sheer amount of sounds Roland puts into their lower budget instruments compared to literally every other company. Very good on their part.
You're welcome! And I definitely agree. It is really impressive to offer so much functionality and so many built-in sounds at a really attractive price point. :)
I like his knowledge of all the Roland keyboards 🎹 he has reviewed.
Thank you kindly! :)
First and foremost, I would like to express my sincere gratitude for your time and clarifications. Your insights are greatly assisting me in making an informed decision.
After carefully considering my options, I am inclined to choose the Roland RD-88 as my top purchasing choice. However, some aesthetic questions have arisen, which, while I understand are subjective, I deem it important to seek the opinion of an experienced professional who understands what may be both aesthetically pleasing and functional.
I note that pianos from the FP series boast a rather appealing and elegant aesthetic. On the other hand, pianos from the RD series do not possess the same beauty and elegance, with the exception of the RD-2000.
Considering that even though the FP-E50 may be more limited in some synthesizer functions and has a smaller quantity of sounds compared to the RD-88 (though it still maintains a considerable variety), and taking into account that I do not intend to use accompaniments, although I acknowledge that this option is available, I perceive it as more elegant.
To dispel my final doubts, I would like to know:
Can the FP-E50 be connected to Apple Mainstage?
Can the FP-E50 be connected to the Roland S-1 Synth and provide more distortion options than the RD-88, using the sound of the FP-E50?
Does RD-88 have Ambience? Studio, Lounge, Concert Hall, Cathedral?
Does RD-88 have Depth? 10 types
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You're very welcome! That is totally fair. The aesthetic quality of an instrument is very frequently a factor given the amount of floor space a piano occupies. To that point, the FP-E50 is a very impressive piano with an incredible feature offering of course. To answer your questions, the FP-E50 can be connected to Apple Mainstage or the Roland S-1 synth as it does possess MIDI connectivity. You could use the MIDI output of the FP-E50 to control the sounds of these plugins and synths. The RD88 does have 6 types of reverb. However, I don't believe there is a depth parameter.
Stu, thanx a ton!
For your immensly inspirational videos.
I do not how you do it, but I just can not stop watching any of your revews despite not going to buy all the keys you dive in 😂.
Just some of them...
Hi! Brent here! Thank you for tuning in! I know Stu appreciates the kind words. I will be sure to pass them along on your behalf. :)
Roland needs to be careful about how this is sold if it isn't to damage its brand.
It's perfectly natural to look at a sticker price, notice a hardware port, and expect basic functionality for that port to be enabled as soon as you pay the sticker price. If retailers aren't careful, customers are going to feel deceived.
While I understand the sentiment, the goal of the RD08 was to offer a more affordable alternative for customers that love the RD88 offering, but don't require certain features and functions. Overall, it was a decision to make the product more accessible.
Imao it's just like the comparison of RD-700nx and RD-300nx in the past, like 2 brothers; big bro & little bro. I love 700nx but if I cannot afford it, I'd go for 300nx.
As I owned RD-88, I feel the same way as 300nx to RD-08 and I belieive the 08 will answer the call for many customers, especially for amatuers to semi-pro players who focus on playing a live session more than a big stage or in a studio. RD-08 will surely do the job fine.
On Roland web site only USB MIDI connectivity is listed. I don't see USB audio anywhere. I don't think Casio has USB audio either. Yamaha advertises embedded audio interface and ability to send digital audio in and out over USB for many its products. Those who need it would not buy Roland or Casio in the first place. You have to do some research and read specs / manual before buying.
@@MerriamPianosbut us it reliable with players like me that play a lot if gigs?? My modx8 keybed is crap, plays random notes in humidity and needs 4 hour cleaning of keybed contacts every year. Please advise??
Hope to see a video for the new Roland LX series soon!
Absolutely! Stay tuned. You can certainly expect those coming your way in the very near future. :)
Love your playing Stu, great playing man!
I'm just disappointed at the fact that this is really a rehash of the RD-88. I suspect RD-88 never sold well and Roland had extra chassis and decided to make this. I don't agree that leaving the USB Audio out (as a $299 upgrade to begin with) is a good idea because I believe this keyboard is good for lightweight travels, and combined with an iPad, you can have yourself a really powerhouse, just look at the CK88.
If anything, I think the CK88 provides much better value than this, as that also has Bluetooth. Anyways, I'd be interested in a comparison between the CK88 and the RD-08, that'd be interesting.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for tuning in and sharing your thoughts! I will be happy to pass on your kind words to Stu. At the end of the day, the decision comes down to the needs of the individual player. The goal of this offering was to make the amazing core musical experience of the RD88 more accessible to customers looking in lower price categories. With that said, for customers that need the full range of features and functions, the RD88 still holds up as an excellent bet.
The lack of USB Audio ($299 is way too much) is the exact and only reason, why I won't buy it. I was looking for a good piano to also use with my IPad, but I won't spend these $299 extra.
You’re very impressed with the speakers, but the RD-88 speakers often received lacklustre reviews. Do you know, or is it your experience the RD-08 speakers perform better than those in the RD-88?
Hi! Brent here! Based on my initial dabbling with the RD08, I would say that it has a clear edge over the RD88 in the speaker department.
Thanks for confirming that. I can’t wait to try it. Do I need to pay for the update on the RD-08 to connect to a DAW via the built in USB?
Cheers Brent 😄
I’m afraid they appear to be the exact same speakers in the (almost) exact same enclosure.
On paper they might be. Would be good to have a side by side comparison though. There might have been a hardware/software or physical cabinet acoustic improvement. Im just intrigued by Stu’s reaction. Maybe the expectation was not very high so the expectation was sufficiently exceeded. Comparatively, if the speakers were expected to perform like the FP30x then the speakers would have disappointed. Hopefully my local store will have one on the shelf soon.
Always love to watch Stu’s vids.
Would like to know more from him personally about the perceived difference between the speakers on the RD-08 compared to the RD-88.
Thanks for tuning in! I'm sure the RD08 will pop up in comparison videos, so the topic of its speakers may very well come up again.
Love your videos.
I am a senior giving pianist and prefer the lightest equipment. When I was young a carried a Rhodes but put wheels on it.
Had the Rd 700, Rd 800, and the Yamaha C4 Stage piano .
Recently bought the Roland FP 30X . Not happy with the navigation but sounds and plays good. Although it is personal, which keyboard do you prefer base on sound ( mostly piano) and feel between the FP 30x and the RD 08?
Thank you.
Steve
Hi Steve! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks so much for tuning in! We're happy to hear that you have been enjoying Stu's video reviews/comparisons! The FP30X is a fantastic piano that provides a wonderful playing experience, but I do agree that the navigation is a little more difficult due to the lack of a screen. The speakers are more powerful on the FP30X than the RD08, so I would personally give an edge to the FP30X in terms of the sonic experience and bass response. Both pianos have the same feel though given the use of the PHA4 action.
I am with you!
I have been playing the RD-700 w SRX-11 piano card since they came out. I recently bought the RD-2000 but sold it within months as it doesn't have the piano from the SRX-11 card. I'm currently in limbo and can't find anything to beat it as I'm really not a fan of the modeled pianos.
I am all in. Will buy
It is an excellent value purchase - that is for sure!
Thanks Stu - right to the point, just as I like it. I just went out and bought it (sorry for not buying it with you guys, but I am in the UK ....).
Hi! Brent here! Thank you for the support! We appreciate it. And no worries at all - we totally understand! :)
No Bluetooth... That confirms my choice to get the Casio PX S3100! As a home user only, having Bluetooth is a must and really adds to the enjoyment and overall experience
That is certainly fair. Every piano shopper will have to make determinations on their specific needs and desires in terms of musical experience and feature offering. :)
Beautiful piano, feels good,,,1 minus point: when I played for the second time on my new 08, the display turned upside down, just when I was playing in a Bigband on stage, so I could not change my patches/presets, became unreadeble.
That is very strange! I haven't used it extensively, so I haven't seen that particular issue present. But, I can certainly understand why that would be frustrating.
Thank you Stu for this excellent review! Other than the speakers, is there any improvement or update to the sounds or sound quality when compared to the RD-88?
Hi! Brent here! Thank you kindly! We're glad you enjoyed the review. The RD08's speakers seem to be a bit nicer sounding (at least to my ears), but, beyond that, the RD88 is still the superior model in terms of specs and capabilities.
I have Roland and Casio Keyboard..And you cant beat the price..
For the Quality Sound...
For sure! Both brands offer fantastic cost-to-value ratios. :)
Hey Stu, thanks for the great review as always! Would be great to see a comparison between these RD-08/RD-88 and FP30x/FP60x especially on the piano sound and speakers
Hi! Brent here! Thanks for the suggestion! I'll be happy to pass the suggestion along to our production team. I'm sure they will do their best to tackle that for you. :)
Is it possible to compare this one with the FP E50
Thanks for the suggestion! That is an excellent idea! We will do our best to take on that comparison. :)
Excellent overview!! I'm seriously considering selling my FP10 (I use for casual practice) and add some $$$ and getting the RD08 to take to gigs. I gig with my FA-08 and VR-730. The FA-08 is about 7 pounds heavier. The weight is not that big a deal, but the RD08 is smaller overall. Not as long as the FA08 and some stages can be tight. The built in speakers make casual playing easier too. And I must mention , like the VR-730, all the lettering is white on black. With the FA-08, the glossy plastic and mirror lettering and red lettering pretty much disappear at certain angles in good light and at any angle under stage lights. Especially when they cycle to red. Same for the JD-XA and JD-Xi. I have the latter and it goes to gigs too. It came with black overlays with white lettering, which I put on it and left on it. Roland offers overlays for the FA series and now that it's on my mind, I'm going to go order them as soon as I post this before I forget.
Thank you so much! The RD08 is definitely worth consideration based on your context of use. Roland has packed a lot of value and functionality in this model at a really wonderful price. :)
Great review. Grateful for it. Quick question: if you had a choice between the RD O8 and the RD 88, which one do you choose?
Thank you kindly! They're literally the same piano with a few minor differences. The RD08 does not include the USB audio interface (without paying the upgrade fee) and there are four less buttons on the control interface. If you are using the piano in conjunction with VST plugins, the RD88 EX would be the more appropriate option. If you are not using the piano with VST plugins, the RD08 will offer virtually the same musical experience. :)
Im buying this piano thanks for the video 💕 your video always gives me a good and true knowledge to make my own opinion hope i like it this piano thanks
You're welcome! Thank you for taking the time to watch the video. We're glad you found it helpful. The RD08 is an amazing instrument with a ton of features. :)
@@MerriamPianos thank you guys you guys are helping a lot every video its well produced thanks a lot its hard to find on youtube like this
Thanks for the prompt review on this exciting product.
I have always admired the RD series, except for one thing - no music rests. This model seems to be no exception. Come on Roland, make a 76-key model with a detachable metal music rest! This would save space on the band stand, and in the car too. The first RD I ever saw had 76 keys.
Anyway, I expect the RD-88 itself will be withdrawn. That makes me a little sad.
You're welcome! Thank you for taking the time to tune in! While I understand the frustration of not having a built-in music desk, given that it is meant for stage use opposed to at-home practice, I suppose Roland has their reasons for not including that feature on these models. That is where a model like the FP-E50 might be the preference.
I hear you on a 76 key version and for the same reasons. With a PHA-4 keybed. Not some semi-weighted cheaped out one. At least Roland seems to have dropped the super soft plastic and reflective lettering like on my FA-08 and JD-Xi.
@@PatrickRosenbalm Yes, absolutely! Almost every time a shorter keyboard is mentioned, the manufacturers presume that a fully weighted action isn't necessary. Now that Yamaha has withdrawn the P-121, the only remaining shorter piano with a graded weighted action is the Korg SV2-73, with or without monitor speakers. It is too expensive for the non-professional pianists or as a backup pro piano, and it's a bit heavy too. So an "RD-07" with PHA-4 would be perfect.
@@Zoco101 There are Nord Piano 73, Nord Stage 73, Nord Electro HP. There is much cheaper option also - Studiologic SL73 (about $500). It is a MIDI keyboard.
You know what else Roland just released? The new LX series!
Yup! You can expect reviews/comparisons covering the new LX line very shortly. :)
Awesome
Thanks so much!
What Roland do you think is best for various genres etc? I love Roland but have always played pianos and pipe organs. I definitely love the demos on this video and think it would be perfect for what I need for now. The price is good but RD88 is only $100 more. Which has the most options?
The RD88 is a powerhouse for the money (especially at the sale pice here in Canada). It is very versatile given the extensive offering of onboard sounds. That would be one of my top suggestions along with the FP-E50. :)
I was planning to buy Roland fp30x... Should I increase my budget and buy RD 08?
They are both wonderful instruments. It really depends on the context of use. If the additional features and instrument sounds are appealing, the RD08 presents an attractive cost-to-value ratio. :)
I am going to get something for my wife to start playing again after her 8 year hiatus. I was trying to decide between the FP-60x and The FP-e50. Now there is an RD-08 in the mix. It makes me wonder I’d I should just pony up for the RD-88. This is just getting very confusing now, LOL.
These are all excellent instruments of course! With that said, they are very different offerings. The two RD models are designed for stage use. As such, they have lower powered speakers and a lot of built-in sounds/features. If your wife is going to primarily use the piano for piano playing/practicing, I would recommend the FP60X. It has the nicest piano experience of all the pianos on this list, namely due to the superior top facing speaker system. Thanks and hope this helps a bit! :)
@@MerriamPianos I am having the same question. I want to buy a piano for my daughter. Want it to last at least 10 years. And I hope Roland will last 10 years ? 🙏 Cannot decide between RD08 and FPe50 . If I use external speaker which one had the better sound ?
If you are a pianist only, and you have to buy just one instrument, what would you buy? Kawai ES920 or Roland RD08 ?....great video Stu...
Hi! Brent here! If you are mainly looking for an instrument with the better piano experience, the ES920 would definitely be my suggestion. The RD08 is a great instrument, but it has a very different intended use.
@@MerriamPianos very useful answer, thank you.
Great review and playing as usually. Can you please make a review of a new RD 88 EX, especially if there any hardware changes like speaker volume / EQ etc. ?
Thank you! We are still awaiting our first shipment of the new RD88EX and RD2000EX models, but you can definitely bank on reviews for these new models coming your way soon. :)
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I like the music stand...
Stage pianos generally do not feature music stands. That is a feature of portable digital pianos designed for home use and practice.
Thank you for clarity. Can we use piano tone alone of fp 30x for church worship and stage programme mainly for piano playing.
You're very welcome! I am not sure if I understand the question. The FP30X's piano tone would certainly be a good fit for church worship and a stage model like the RD08 or RD88 would be excellent for performance settings in which more instrument sounds are required other than piano. :)
Please make a video on RD88 vs RD08
Thanks for the suggestion! We will do our best to tackle that for you. :)
I almost lost it the moment I received the email from Roland, just hoping and wishing it was the update for the RD-2000 I’ve been waiting for BUT it was not.
ROLAND RD-2000 update!
ROLAND RD-2000 update!
ROLAND RD-2000 update!
:)
We have not yet received any word from Roland regarding an update to the RD2000. We will keep you posted if we do!
As always a great video. I have a Kawai ES-920 but find it's a little on the large size but I love the key action. What would you say regarding the action on the RD-08 does it compare or is it far off. I would like the Roland due to it's size, but key action is important for me. Thank you.
Thank you kindly! The RD08 has an excellent key action. The PHA4 action on the RD08 is actually a touch heavier than the ES920, but it does have an impressively authentic feel. It is certainly a more compact design, which makes it quite attractive as a gigging instrument.
@@MerriamPianos Thanks for your reply, I like the look and sound of the RD 08, the best thing I can do is gets my hands on one at a local dealer, I have a feeling I'll end up swapping out the Kawai, just too big. ATB, Mark.
I dislike the interface not being included in the price
Some people will not be a fan of that aspect of course, but, for those that don't require that feature, it does help to keep the price point of the product itself down.
@@MerriamPianos Yes, but it doesn't cost them money to activate it. It is already there, it is just greed from their part. If they had a RD08b without the hardware I would understand.
Can you try out the Roland Go keys 5 enjoy listening to your talent ,thanks for your videos
Hi! Brent here! Thanks so much for the suggestion! I will pass it along to our production team on your behalf. I'm sure they will do their best to tackle that review for you. :)
Does the 3-zone limitation in the RD-08 (and RD-88) impact the sound compared to the 16-zones on the Fantom? Or does it merely limit the amount of separate zones on the keyboard? Is the amount of partials per tone not restricted?
Hi there! I was under the impression that it just limited the amount of separate zones on the keyboard, but I have not directly experimented with the impact (if any) on the actual pianos' sound. We will likely be posting follow-up comparisons that feature the RD08, so I will pass this question along to our production team and, perhaps, we can tackle it in a future video.
Does the usb audio interface works with android or IOS? Or is it like the audio interface of fantom that only works with PC or Mac?
Hi! Brent here! I believe it is only compatible with PC or Mac, but I am not sure entirely sure to be honest. I would have to inquire with our Roland reps.
Very interesting.
Thank you! :)
what do you think of the kawai vpc1 as of today ? I already have monitors and vsts from my guitar setup so I don't care about that, cost is similar to this ( at least in EU ) & everyone seems to praise it as the best feeling to actual pianos, but i'm wondering if it's outdated since 2013 release
The VPC1 still holds up as one of the best MIDI controller ever created in my opinion. As the old adage goes, "if it ain't broke; don't fix it." ;)
The RD-08 costs almost the same as the RD-88, and in addition to that, the practice of requiring buying extra "licenses" for core features, means we should definitely send a message to Roland, don't do this, by avoiding this thing. Buy the RD-88 if you can if you want this, IMO.
If it was possible to install Pianteq Pianos with the with "Pro" adjustments it could be a very viable way top go.. However it seems most everyone would want USB.
Here in Canada, the RD08 is significantly less. However, I know that price points and price gaps vary greatly in different markets.
This should be higher up, especially if I were to purchase this second hand years later and Roland does not support this keyboard anymore.
In the Netherlands, its a difference of 150 euro...
My guess is the price of the RD 88 is going to go up a few hundred dollars to create a filler gap between product lines. Later you would basically have to catch the pianos on sale to get the current prices.
Nice review, I am evaluating getting one instead of the RD-88 (don't know if is worth paying the extra), also, I was wondering, does it has Rhythms included? can you save songs in memory?
Thanks so much! I don't believe the RD08 includes rhythms nor does it have onboard recording to save songs/performances, but you can record MIDI and audio onto a USB stick. :)
I'm new to the piano having started lessons last September. I turned 60 in December so it's just a hobby for me. I currently have the Roland FP10 but want to upgrade to something with a more realistic sound. I prefer the richer sound of Roland over Yamaha. Any suggestions on what might suit me? I've watched the review on here of the FP90X and wondered if that might suit me?
The Roland FP90X would certainly be a meaningful upgrade from the already fantastic FP10! That would be the next step up in terms of the action/tactile experience of the piano. The FP30X and FP60X are great pianos that are a step up from the FP10 as well, but they feature the same PHA4 action. In that respect, the FP90X will feel like a more substantial upgrade. :)
David, all I can say that I returned (after a few months of use) my FP-90X - mostly because its weight. I am a bit older than you and I could not carry it between floors, if I needed to. I like PHA50 though.
Have you tried connecting good studio monitors to FP10? They should sound much better than embedded speakers.
@@FirstLast-nr6gf FP-10 does not unfortunately have proper connectors and adapters would be needed
Dear Stu, thank's for this review. One question about Supernatural engine and difference with the rd88. Roland rd08 specifications mention supernatural acoustic piano no 3. No such number for the rd88. Is there a difference between those two engines and two keyboards concerning acoustic piano rendition ? Thank's for your comment.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for tuning! We're glad you enjoyed Stu's review. While the core Concert Grand piano tone from the SuperNATURAL tone engine is the same, the RD88 does have a more extensive piano tone offering if you compare the sound lists. So, to that point, some of the additional piano sounds differ between these two RD models.
@@MerriamPianos thank you for your answer!
Having to pay to enable hardware that's already built-in is a no-go. As the hardware is built into every unit, each unit costs them the same whether it's enabled or not. But by putting a price tag on enabling the built-in hardware it allows them to exploit the customer for an extra pile of cash.
I do understand that there is a bit of difference between limiting access to something physically on the product (such as the USB audio interface) versus access to additional sample sets and functions, but the intention of it is to offer the RD08 at a lower price point and make the amazing RD line even more accessible.
Would you say that an rd-08 vs PX-S3100 comparison would mirror your video on the rd-88 vs PX-S6000? Kind of wondering what sacrifices are made for the lower price in each of those instruments.
The PXS3100 uses an all plastic key action opposed to the wood/resin composite of the PXS6000. The PXS6000 also has higher quality piano sample sets. The RD08 and RD88 are much more similar. The only real differences between them are four lesson buttons and a locked USB audio interface on the RD08. You can unlock the USB audio interface functionality for a fee though.
Hi Stu. Great job as always. I am a Roland fan, but I was wondering why you haven't reviewed any keyboard from Korg yet.
Hi! Brent here! We are not Korg dealers, so it is difficult to tackle reviews/comparisons on their models. Sometimes, we get Korg pianos on trade, so we will do our best to include them in reviews/comparisons if the model is current and relevant.
Could you tell me if the grand piano sound quality of FP 60x/90x is better or same with RD 08. I get from specs that keys are the same PHA-4 for both.
The speaker systems are superior on the FP60X and FP90X, so the presentation of the core piano sound will be better. It is also important to note that the FP90X uses a different tone engine, so there is also the element of musical preference between different tone engines and their core piano sounds.
Subscription option to use the usb midi port? Wow..that's a first. So this is certainly not for home studio users unless you have deep pockets. I still want the option to use piano VSTs and record on my DAW.
The Roland RD88 piano (the bigger brother to the RD08) would give you that option. The RD08 is a bit more of streamlined piano without the upgrade unlocked. The goal of this was to make this type of stage piano more accessible to players on a tighter budget.
Looking at getting this RD-08 OR the FP60X. Thoughts?
Hi! Brent here! It really depends on context of use. If you're going to be using the piano primarily for piano practice, the FP60X would be the best bet as it has a richer sonic experience. If you need additional features and built-in sounds for production/performance, the RD08 would be the ideal choice. :)
Agree but what about the quality of of piano sound comparison? Not the speaker output.
Both pianos utilize the SuperNATURAL piano tone engine, so the core piano samples are quite comparable. :)
Do you think the piano sound is better on this one or the casio px 3100? I have the casio px 3100 is it worth trading for that one?
It really comes down to a matter of personal tastes and preferences. They are both wonderful instruments, but they offer a very different musical experience. I would recommend testing out the RD08 in person to see how you favour it in comparison to your current PXS3100.
I might trade up to an RD-88 from the PX-S3100, but not the RD-08. The 3100 is a very close competitor, and includes some things the 08 lacks, such as optional battery power, a music rest and quality samples of several German pianos. Unless you are very unhappy with an aspect of the PX-S3100, I think you should wait a while for a bigger upgrade.
@@Zoco101 what has a better piano sound?
Please:
1. Do you know whether Roland will go for a 73 or76 keys version. Something more portable would be finally nice ;)
2. Is there a possibility to change temperament (werckmeister, kirnberger....)?
Hi there! We have not received any word from Roland about a 73 or 76 key version of the RD08, but we will keep you posted if we do. Also, I am not entirely sure as to whether the RD08 has the capacity to change temperament, but, if I recall correctly, the RD88 had a "custom temperament" parameter, so I imagine it should be present on the RD08 as well given the similarities between the feature offering.
@@MerriamPianos Thank you for your answer and please let us know if you hear 73/76 is coming, there is surely a lot of us who would go for such more portable version :)
Roland fp 30x piano vs rd08 which has a good piano sound when connected to external speaker. Rd 88 seems bit thin and sharp piano.l want a thick piano sound.
I would give the edge to the FP30X for the core piano sound. It also has higher powered speakers, which provide a better sonic experience, if you're using the onboard speakers. The RD-08 and RD-88 are designed to be stage pianos, hence the plethora of sounds and features they offer. Ultimately, it is a different intended use than personal piano practice.
Well, this model does come with a USB to connect a computer, but is not enabled! only after an upgrade for 300USD. But can I use the MIDI interface to connect to my computer??
Hi there! Just to clarify, the MIDI interface can still be connected and utilized. The restriction (pre-upgrade) is the USB audio interface.
is there midi-in and out? and is it 88 keys?
Hi there! The RD08 does have MIDI capability via USB, but it does not have a standard MIDI IN and MIDI OUT connection.
Currently a difference of £135 between RD88 and RD08 in the UK. Is the RD88 just not selling well or something? Both sound great and look great, just don't understand why there's two...
It certainly isn't because the RD88 is not selling well. It is quite the contrary over here in Canada! It is a very popular model due to the cost-to-value ratio it offers. The goal of the RD08 is to offer piano shoppers in a lower price bracket a stage piano with most of the same functionality as the popular RD88.
Just curious. The Roland MC-101 also has the Zen core technology and 3000 sounds. Are these the same sounds as the Roland RD-08?
Hi there! I am not entirely sure as I have not used the MC101 (it is not a product that we carry here at Merriam Music). With that said, I imagine there is a lot of overlap in terms of the sounds featured on the RD08 model. :)
Will you review yamaha montage M series Stu?
Hi! Brent here! We will do our best to tackle that series for you. :)
Hi Stu, could you compare the RD-08 and the FP-E50, since they are in the same price range? That would be awesome!
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for the suggestion! The FP-E50 and RD08 would be a very interesting comparison to tackle given the comparable price point and overlap of certain key features. We will do our best to tackle that as soon as possible. :)
@@MerriamPianos Great! Thanks a lot!
The triple pedal RP3 is a great feature but is it possible with the RD88 ? i own a RD88 and i'm interested with this point
Yup! The RPU3 triple pedal is compatible with the RD88 model! :)
@@MerriamPianos great thanks, i'm gonna improve my RD 88 expérience !
I'd have far more buyers remorse for the FP E50 that I just bought, but there doesn't seem to be any record capabilities on this. I'm sure there will be somethin newer or better released in a ocuple that will make me want to upgrade... Now... If Ford only made a little Maverick with a full bed or a transit that was a hybrid...
While there is definitely some overlap, particularly with the ZEN-Core functionality, there are still enough distinctions between the FP-E50 and RD08 to justify both of them existing in Roland's catalogue.
Many thanks for quick answer!
Regarding the purchase options between the FP-E50, RD-08, and RD-88:
How can I determine which of these models is the best choice for me, considering my preferences for a more compact-sized instrument and not requiring built-in accompaniments and drum kits?
Considering the need for an upgrade to access features like Galaxies, is it more worthwhile to invest in the RD-88?
Does the FP-E50 truly offer all the features of the RD-08 and RD-88, including access to Galaxias, or are there any significant differences between them? ( I know that sounds are much less for FPE-50)
About real-time adjustment functionalities in the RD-08 and RD-88 models:
When I adjust a "scene" using the potentiometer and save those settings, are the adjustments made with the potentiometer saved? If not, how does this affect the usability of these models compared to the FP-E50?
In the case of the FP-E50, is it possible to make these adjustments digitally, without relying on physical potentiometers?
Regarding the unlock state of the FP-E50:
Does the FP-E50 come fully unlocked, allowing immediate access to all its features and functionalities? Or are there any restrictions or additional upgrade needs to access certain features?
My thinking about all this quiestions is:
-Im not a professional and also dont have any intention to be ( just want to buy a good and beautiful piano)
-I dont know what kind of need I can have in the future, and its better be prepared with samething that can be usefull.
-Its the PIANO sound of RD-08 or RD-88 much better tha FPE-50 or only little bit? and for me its look like that option that RD-08 /RD-88 have to open the tone of Grand Piano ate the same to FPE-50 when open the LID.
Please can you help me to really find the best option for me? I love your coments and will be greatfull with your help
You're very welcome! I am happy to help. :)
It really comes down to a matter of personal preference. No one can make the decision for a piano player other than the player themselves. If you don't require built-in accompaniments and drum kits, I think it would be logical to mark the FP-E50 off the list as that is one of the primary features that model offers. If you are looking to use Galaxias or VST plug-ins in conjunction with your piano, the RD88 seems to be the logical choice as the price point will be virtually the same if you pay for the RD08 upgrade.
In terms of saving settings, some settings are accessed purely digitally and can be stored, while others are connected to knobs, wheels, and other controls on the control panel. That is the case with virtually all of the models in discussion. The FP-E50 comes "fully-unlocked," but, naturally, there are certain features and functionalities it may not possess.
The questions you've listed at the bottom of your comment are all valid and the best way to answer them is to spend some time with each model if possible. Getting to play them at a piano showroom will help provide more clarity as sometimes it is just a "feel" thing. You may naturally gravitate more towards the sound, touch, or navigation of a particular model. With that said, based on your comment, the RD88 seems to be the model that is most aligned with what you're looking for.
Does it have Roland’s MKS 20 samples as featured on the carbon dated RD2000?
Hi! Brent here! Given that this is a brand new model, I have not taken a full deep dive into the tone list. While I am sure there are comparable sounds to the MKS20 samples, I am not positive as to whether the same samples found in the RD2000 are present in this case. The RD2000 has more tone engines and libraries on it than the RD08 model does.
Did not see them in the tone list. I have Keyscape software and it has 9 MKS-20 tones. Really good.
I am waiting for your review of Roland Lx 9
We are planning on tackling that review very soon. :)
Is there an option to add a sheet music stand to the RD08?
As is the case with most stage pianos, the RD08 does not have a music rack option.
Every digital piano should have this option
Right now, Roland RD88s go in my local shop for HK$7800, and RD08 is not available in HK yet but costs US$999. When the RD08 comes, it'd probably start off at about the same price as the RD88, so what am I gaining or losing?
The RD88 is certainly more feature-rich, but the core technology and features are quite comparable. The biggest difference is the number of "Scenes." The RD88 offers 400 versus the RD08's 100.
Get the RD-88 if you can. The RD-08 is the same as the RD-88, but some features are locked behind a paid update, which essentially brings you back to the same feature set of the RD-88.
I’m a bit confused about the usb upgrade, does that mean i cant plug this into my computer to play midi into my daw?
You can still use the MIDI output from the USB port, but the audio interface portion of the USB is restricted without the upgrade.
Que digerencia hay entre roland 88 y roland 08 por que han sacado otra versión?
In this video, Stu covers they key differences. One of the major differences is that the RD08 only offers 100 scenes versus the RD88's 400. The RD08 also does not include an audio-interface and use of the Roland Cloud (without an additional unlocking fee).
Is this one comparable to the yamaha dgx 670?
The FP-E50 is Roland's direct competitor to the DGX670, but there is certainly some overlap here with the RD08.
@@MerriamPianos thank you for the quick response!
could you please test the Supernatural Piano 3, which is available for the RD08 and not for the RD88
Thanks for the suggestion! We will do our best to feature that patch if we do a follow up video to the RD08. :)
Does this keyboard have roland's jazz scat voice?
Hi there! I believe that particular voice is on most Roland digital piano models, including the RD08. With that said, I'm not currently at a showroom to test out the RD08 to verify. Perhaps, one of our community members here can verify. :)
Ah... yes... Roland Cloud...
:)
I think that I want to buy this keyboard in a few months (still saving). I thought that I heard Stu say it (4:40-5:50), but, for verification, I have only 1 question: Can you layer 3 voices on this keyboard or is the layer limited to 2 voices?
Hi there! I believe you can in fact layer three sounds on the RD08 just like you can on the RD88. The following product support video from Roland walks you through how to do it on the RD88:
ruclips.net/video/20ApxXTpOZ8/видео.html
@@MerriamPianos Thanks!
@@MerriamPianos How much polyphony does it have?
I'd probably take this over the CK-88 any day. But considering the RD-88 is only about 200 euros more, the advantage completely diminishes the moment you decide to get an upgrade. Also hiding the already implemented (in hardware) audio interface behind a software kill switch that you need to unlock for a hefty price tag is lame. Of course it's not just Roland that does that. Besides the price (and maybe the speakers?) is there any advantage to this over the RD-88 that would make you buy it even though in the end it may cost more than the RD-88?
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! It is a matter of opinion of course as to which model is the better value buy. With that said, despite the speakers being rated the same, the RD08 model appears to have more cutting and nicer sounding speakers (at least that was my first impression). For a 12W system, it was quite impressive!
I agree, locking out hardware features for a subscription based activation is a slippery slope and not the behaviour I would expect from a company like Roland.
No there isn't any advantage over the RD-88. Essentially, if you are not looking for too much from a stage piano, then this would be an option, it's just so hard to justify when this board is the RD-88 minus features locked behind a paid software update.
You're lucky that you don't buy the CK88 just yet. I just bought it last week then this product suddenly came out.
I really wanted to buy rd-88 but I can't cuz I'm over budget (IDR 16,8 millions on CK88 to IDR 20 millions on RD-88). Now this RD-08 came out here around IDR 17 millions which surprisingly overpriced compared to the US.
But then I don't know how i feel right now since this audio interface locked down version is very unacceptable for me. Ck88 is better in that regard
@@rizkipuruze based on that I wouldn't buy it. I'd prefer the RD-88. Nothing wrong with the CK-88 really, I'm just mostly certain I would prefer PHA4 over GHS.
How many Acoustic piano sounds does it have ? This keyboard seems to offer so much for the price it has me wondering why someone would rather have a similarly priced electric piano with way less sounds ? . Like a Yamaha p225. Is there a reason im not seeing ?
With over 3000 tones, there are virtually countless piano options available on the RD08. There are 67 piano tones in the main acoustic piano bank though. In terms of why someone would choose another instrument over the RD08 at this price point, it all depends on context of use. The RD08 is a stage piano with thousands of sounds. However, other features, like the speaker system, are a bit more streamlined/basic. So, for players that are only going to be using piano sounds, they may opt for another instrument with fewer sounds, but a better speaker system to enjoy the core piano experience.
All features are already there in terms of hardware just locked via software and the key is tied to a Roland Cloud account. Its not really about reaching a lower price point for consumers, its about what will Roland lock away in their future products. They think its for consumers but its not.
It is an interesting paradigm that has now been introduced to the realm of digital pianos, so I suppose time will tell whether this was a bit of an experimental proposition or something that will be more longstanding (and potentially the norm for most manufacturers in the industry).
I am fine with it. I prefer to pay less and use my own Digital Audio Interface (Focusrite Scarlett). Even when I had digital pianos with Digital Audio Interface (I had ten digital pianos, including Roland FP-90X and Yamaha P-515) I liked using Scarlett with my piano VSTs. I may buy the RD-08 Cloud Update later if I need to. I like simplicity of RD-08.
Michael
I'm not a Roland fan, but let's just hope they don't think of other things to lock, and that other digital piano manufactures don't start coppying this idea🎹🎶
Guys. I need some help, please. I know its kinda “my problem”, but you guys are piano experts and know a lot about piano. So id ask you:
What Piano exactly is the youtuber “Willskeyboardsink” using?
I can see that its a shigeru kawai (Either Sk2 or Sk3).
But I’ve listened to some Shigeru Kawai pianos and the tone is very different from that RUclipsr’s piano.
You can listen to some of his music especially fantaisie impromptu.
His Piano’s tone is very special, and i like it alot.
Could someone help me know EXACTLY what piano he is using? Or atleast what Piano has a similar tone to his?
Hi there! Unfortunately, because of the way the videos are shot, it is impossible to gauge the depth of the instrument to determine if it is an SK2 or SK3. Keep in mind that pianos can be voiced in a number of different ways by technicians. The Shigeru Kawai pianos are capable of a wide range of tonal output. I'm sorry I can't be of more assistance on this front, but I can attest to the amazing musical potential of the Shigeru Kawai SK models. :)
@@MerriamPianos Thank you for putting the effort into looking in it.
When will Roland release RD-2000 successor?
We have not received any updates from Roland yet about that, but we will certainly keep you in the loop once we do. :)
Soon I hope. It’s increasingly looking like an antique. 2017 release FFS. 🙄
Wish there was a way for blind musicians to easily use these types of instruments🎹🎶
If you were designing a digital piano, how would you do it?
Maybe a voice control thing similar to Alexis? For stage use it might have a dedicated headphone/earbud output?
As you may have noticed, the P-125 & P-121 have audible confirmation on a few of the settings. The new P-225 probably has this too.
On the simpler dps with no screens and menus, this could be extended to everything, but on this instrument it would need something more sophisticated.
As @Zoco101 mentioned, I think a voice control feature would be quite helpful in this regard. Perhaps, some manufacturers will start including this type of technology in their models in the near future.
@@Zoco101 I was thinking of not removing the physical interface. Perhaps voice accessibility could work as long as only the musician can here it, and if the band they're playing with isn't that loud, although listening to it talking can get annoying over time. At least with physical buttons you can feel your way around things, although I guess these stage pianos have way too meny features that you would still need a touchscrean to have access to meny of the features🎹🎶
@@Zoco101 oh you meen voice control like saying commands to the digital piano? Perhaps that could work in an ideal setting🎹🎶
But the RD88 has USB audio enabled? I hear it's cost a lot to have it enabled with RD08. At least what i got from the reviews from amazon. "Turns out you have to pay $300 more to activate the USB port and make this thing a MIDI controller"
Yes, the RD88 has the USB audio interface enabled. The RD08 was really designed to offer a similar instrument at a lower price point for customers that don't require certain features.
For the difference, I will stick with my RD-88 and keep the deeper editing capability. If my RD88 died today, I think I would just get another RD88.
I'm with you on that, love my rd88!
That is totally fair! The RD88 is still a superior machine in most regards despite it not being as new of a model.
Is there any chance you can do a review of the rd-08 with the paid for software upgrade using the supernatural acoustic piano engine 3 .
Can’t find a review or demo for that software upgrade anywhere which is exclusive to the rd-08
I think it also enables the usb audio interface and a few other things . But I believe it’s 300us extra :(
Thanks for the suggestion! I will pass it along to our production team that makes decisions on the video topics. It would certainly be worth tackling a review of the unlocked RD08. We will do our best to do so for you. :)
@@MerriamPianosThat will be great. I think u guys will be the first to review online the supernatural acoustic piano 3 engine if upgraded. As always great job on the reviews . Cheers .
Hi, I'm really looking forward to it too
I am also interested in knowing the price of this update
I can't find any information about it
@@DL-kc2mw I’ve looked everywhere for even an audio demo of the supernatural acoustic piano 3 and I can’t find it anywhere. A bit strange how silent this upgraded engine has been . Very curious to know how the piano sounds
@@DL-kc2mw it very well may be the tipping point for buyers on the fence to justify the added cost of the rd-08 over the fp-e50 and fp30x/60x . If the piano engine itself is upgradeable and more future proof.
The pain of that navigation, why didn't they put the scroll dial here. Otherwise great product!
The navigation is not the most user friendly of course, but the RD08 still holds up as a powerhouse for the price. Sometimes, these concessions are made to keep the enclosure more compact. This is especially true when the instrument is intended to be a portable, gigging piano.
So you have to pay to use this as a MIDI controller? I think that is a terrible precedence. That is not money saving. That is a cash grab. IMO
You don't have to pay to use the RD08 as a MIDI controller. It will still output MIDI data. However, if you want to use it with DAW integration, that does cost extra money.
@@MerriamPianos ahh OK then I guess that's fair.
@@MerriamPianos, right, you have to pay an additional $299 to get that functionality. So why not just but the Roland RD 88 EX?
Ugh, just when I thought I was settling on the RD 88, I had to come across this video. decisions, decisions...
It is definitely a tough decision as there are a lot of attractive models out there in the category right now. :)
Unbelievable piano tone but sounds a bit muffled. Maybe the video distortion?
Hmm I'm not sure. The video doesn't sound distorted from my end. Thanks for letting us know though! I will pass the feedback onto our production team.
Interesting interpretation on the function of the audio interface. The most expensive part of an audio interface is the hardware. You already paid for the hardware. To use said hardware, you have to pay again. If the original owner sells his/her device, the lifetime license stays with the person who purchased the license, not the new owner. They get to buy it again.
It would be more intellectually honest to omit the hardware completely or include the functionality by default.
Like a lot of companies, Roland is looking for opportunities for secondary and residual revenues by selling “features” and subscriptions. While it’s a great move for the organization, it’s terrible for consumers.
While I understand the sentiment to some extent, it is important to consider that all of the sample sets and patches that Roland has made available via the Roland Cloud cost time, money, and resources to develop. So, there is logic in having access to those assets come with a fee. This also allows customers that will never utilize that tech and functionality to have a cheaper option (RD08).
@@MerriamPianos
Nobody disputes things cost money. They always do.
What I have an issue with is selling the use of hardware already paid for. This is just like BMW’s subscription for heated seats already installed and paid for by consumer. It’s a secondary monetization stream that has nothing to do with Roland Cloud’s traditional offerings. Conflating additions with enabling what is already there isn’t helpful. With those, you are atleast getting something new added.
This new audio interface racket just allows you to use hardware you already paid for just as BMW was charging customers to use the heating elements already installed in their seats and paid for in the purchase price of a new car.
You not saving people money who don’t need the audio interface. You’re making them pay for something they don’t need in hardware. Then making them pay again if they decide to use it. If they sell it, the new owner will pay again to have access to the same feature the previous owner already paid for.
Once again, it is more intellectually honest to delete the hardware and drop the cost accordingly or include the feature by default because you already paid for the hardware to be designed and manufactured inside the keyboard.
It’s patronizing to tell people they are saving money by paying for the hardware only and not getting the feature unlocked.
@@matthewgaines10 FACTS!!?
“You already paid for the hardware.” No, you didn’t. You took it home with you, but you didn’t pay for it. It starts working when you buy it. This seems totally reasonable to me (assuming the consumer’s price is, indeed, discounted accordingly).
@@matthewgaines10 “What I have an issue with is selling the use of hardware I already paid for.” But you didn’t. You didn’t pay for it. You just took it home. That hardware wasn’t included in the cost of sale. That’s the deal. If you paid for it, did you get a receipt? 😉
Where’s the evidence people are paying for this hardware upon their initial purchase of the unit? What makes you think they are paying for it at that time?
Obviously I agree it would be terrible if people had to pay for the same audio interface twice. But that doesn’t seem to be what’s happening here - if we’re being intellectually honest and all.
Why doesn't Roland ever include an attached music stand?
They do with the vast majority of their models actually. The RD series are stage pianos, which are not designed to have attachable music racks.
For me , it feels like like Roland has really been letting the customers down... As good as the PHA4 action is, it's already old at this point. The PHA50 had to be the new standard to be used in all newer models, and weight it's not really an excuse.
Roland is not stepping up the game anymore, they are just making "fill" products now.
For some models, portability is a key requirement of the design (based on the intended context of use - such as gigging). Also, I would push back on the notion that Roland is not stepping up the game anymore. I would recommend exploring the new Roland GP and LX models. The work that Roland has done with physical modelling and dynamic sensor systems is extremely impressive.
@@MerriamPianos New LX series is the real deal indeed and it's price point is not as bad. Perhaps I should have mentioned that what I said, is targeted more towards any of the portables.
Still I'd like to emphasize that not using a better action on that model or other "portables" is not a decision made with portability in mind.
I'm patiently waiting for a replacement of the RD-2000, but I'm guessing we'll not be getting a better action on it.
On amazon, the RD-88 was a little over a thousand. Now the RD-08 has replaced it and the RD-88 is now more $$
Pricing and price gaps do vary in some markets. Here in Canada, the RD08 is less than the RD88.
@@MerriamPianos I like my RD-88 - bought it because of your demos! However the UI is pretty bad - even for the 90's. But the sounds and keybed are excellent. Thanks for your demos!
I always love your playing but don’t think the piano sound stands out to me as much as they do on the Kawai’s. For the price, id still buy that if i couldn’t afford anything else
Hi! Brent here! That is certainly fair. Tone preferences are very personal and subjective. Some players may gravitate towards warm piano tones, while others gravitate towards bright piano tones.
Will it hold up with lots of gigging??
I would say so! This instrument is designed to be a stage piano. However, getting a good case to gig with would be helpful. :)
@MerriamPianos my yamaha modx8 isn't, keybed issues especially in outdoor humidity..very frustrating gigging.
Seems like RD08 is designed for stage performance only. I don't know why it even needs speakers. Without speakers it would be lighter. For studio / home use there are much better options. I don't think RD08 has any drum kits. Recently I needed darbuka sounds. Yamaha DGX-670 which is $200 cheaper has them in the Turkish kit. If I had Roland I would need to buy Turkish / Arabic drum kit / VST somewhere else. User interface also looks 20 years old.
I think it is certainly fair to say that the Roland RD08 is positioned to be a stage/performance instrument opposed to a true workstation/production instrument. However, it does have some crossover features that could allow it to serve that function depending on the specific context of use.