True. For the slow drivers that is. The good ones never needed the unfair edge and raced like men, shame they'll never go down as well known as all the frauds and hotheads
I love the Ray Evernham stories but sometimes he's so open about it that it feels like he's mocking the organization. One of my favorites is when singer Marty Robbins admitted to cheating because he just wanted to see how it felt to win.
I had the privilege of my father working for Mark Martins neighbor and good friend. Back in the 90's, we would get all access pit passes, when that was still a thing. One Daytona 500, we're standing outside Marks hauler chatting. A crew member runs in, opens a cooler, and pulls out 4 shocks, we inquired why keep them on ice? The reply was, nascar tells us the required ride height, but not what temperature the shocks need to be. Always thought that was cool
The transmission that Tony was referring to was made by Rankin. When you shifted into high gear, it disconnected the counter shaft inside, so the only thing rotating was the main shaft. The horsepower it freed up was 3 tenths…NASCAR immediately outlawed the transmission. It was still legal in ARCA, some guys ran it for years.
If they started their own series I wonder if people would start watching again. The old races were great with the cars wiggling and sliding but staying on the track. Now they are so dialed in and precise that it snaps around and you got guys bitter with each other over a racing deal
I love Tony Furr! He worked with us all through 2015 and I enjoyed my time with him more than anything, i mean he had SOOO MANY awesome stories! I could listen to him all day! Haven't seen him since though. Miss you bud!
i love the Dale Jr Download. I used to watch NASCAR all the time then I just stopped and haven't watched it in years, but listening to all these Dale Jr podcasts has got me back into it. Thanks Dale Forever #3
Same here bro. I grew up watching it with my dad and went to the race in New Hampshire every year. We haven't gone in years and I really wanna get back into it
I could listen to his stories all day long! He really paints a picture... Dang what professionalism Junebug to continue on with your timeline of the conversation of the parts and races after he mentions that lovely but difficult story on your Dad hopping in the car at Daytona - it's pretty amazing what your Dad was and then what you have become - two sides of a coin but both gems (he more on the racing side - you on the announcing + history side to be remembered by - both of you racers/ owners carrying on from what your Grandpops started back of your MeMaw's house shop ; ) 🏁 M in Miami
In the mid 90s I helped a local guy race an ARCA car. At that time most of the cars had a vacuum gauge in it measuring cowl pressure. I know for a fact that a Sneaky Pete bottle was used in many qualifying laps. The driver would hide the bottle in his firesuit and when he got in he hooked the hose from it to the hose for the cowl gauge.
Great podcast! Back in 1999 - 2002 I worked as a CNC machinist, small mom & pop shop. We did mostly aerospace work, but a neighbor in our industrial park was a NASCAR racer. Long story short, on our night shifts, we would make parts for this guy, out of titanium, and T-6, T-7 aluminum, giving him a little extra 'edge' against his competition. It was always fun helping, and we never charged him anything, aside of a case or two of beer :)
Man, as much of a fan and watcher as I am, just saw this one. What a classic! If you had a podcast that ONLY talked about the old "creative" things dude, thats all you'd need to do!
These stories are PRICELESS AND HISTORICAL because there wasn't too many people who had "INNOVATIONS " AND THE SMARTS AND TENACITY TO PULL OFF BENDING RULES AND STILL BE FOUND LEGAL AFTER THE RACE!!!!!LOL 😂😂😂😂😂Keep these awesome entertaining stories coming Dale,They're PRICELESS TREASURED BLESSINGS for fans from way back in the 50's, 60's and 70's. Those individuals were BRILLIANT 👍😁🏁🏆🏁 and irreplaceable!!!! These stories bring back so many HAPPY MEMORIES!!! THANKS DALE 💞 🤗 🙏
Ol' Tony Furr, Hendrick's forgotten Genius. Thank you Junior, for having TF on your ultra popular podcast, because this Man was all but forgotten, but not now! 😉👍
Crazy to think they were all running nitrous. This might just be about the absolute best talk out there about cheating things up in NASCAR. Absolutely amazing all the stuff he came up with. The fuel light was really clever. I'm sure Jr was thrilled to learn all that new stuff. Very creative to just make the NOS bottle part of the cage/support bars.
That is one of the best episodes yet! I’d heard his name and it was always associated with cool teams but I had NO idea he was behind so much INNOVATION!
I'm thinking that there were plenty of other "innovators in the Nascar garages during Tony's career in Nascar cause like Darryl Waltrip has said , there has always been "creativity" in auto racing and probably always will b😊😅😮😂😊❤
As he talks about his fuel cell, all I can think about is the Nascar Thunder 2003 scenario where you recreate Jerry Nadeau running out of fuel with the lead in Atlanta and you have to make the car reach the end and win.
Lol, is it true about "Fire Ball Roberts?". Everyone ran out of gas, he was still runing, lol. After the win, nascar imounpded his car on the front staight grass. Inspecters took out the gas tank and was checking this and that, no infraction. After a couple of hours, Fire Ball jumps in the car and drives away, lol.
In 1957 and 1958 we'd go to a tiny dirt track near Cuba NY. It was barely 1/4 mile oval. There was a driver called Doc Hocter (Hoctor?) He had a '37 ford flathead that almost won every race. He always "just" won in the late laps of a race. My dad noticed the tone of the engine would change and the exhaust pipe flame would turn blue. AND the smell of the exhaust changed. 20 years later I was reading about WW2 german fighter planes using nitrous. My brother finally crossed paths with Doc in the 80's. He asked him about his car. It turned out he was a tech sergeant in europe and was in a group that did technical research on german aircraft. He learned all about nitrous during the war. His "required" fire extinguisher was the nitrous tank.
Great stories from Tony. I could only imagine the way the old boys would do the magic to win races back in the day. That's why I always watch Junior's Show . He and Mike always bring the goods !!!!!!👍
That cool stuff learning about Dale Sr out side of racing! And what they did to win racing in the day! Pretty awesome! Theses are super hero of racing!
Now THAT is how innovation drives a sport forward! This was an excellent and engaging Dale Jr. Download interview. I wouldn't want to be the team not using these "tricks" while others were, but that's why every team was coming up with something in between the rules. The kind of motivated ingenuity that created exciting race performances in the history of racing, is what has made watching racing exciting over the years. Now everything is so tightly monitored, the ingenuity of these innovators has been sucked out of the sport. NASCAR needs to allow SOME areas for team mechanics to get an edge.
What a happy video! Cows are happily munching dandelions, Chicks happily exploring the grass, Pete's happy with his work and Hillary even had a smile for missing one of Pete's jokes! Great video! One and all!
I was 12 when jr won his first race in texas sitting in turn 1 11 rows up. Greatest day of my racing life--finally 22 years later i get to hop in my own racecar. Listening to these old stories brings back some of the best memories of nascar in its best time
Tony is great storyteller. I've heard stories of guys ensuring the roll cage welds have zero pinholes, and simply pressurized the roll cage. I fabricated my own setup (for my '75 Chevy Monza 2+2 and hid the 16lb tank in the spare tire area) with 3/8ths copper tubing (one for nitrous, one for "extra" fuel"), drilled a few holes each pointing down a port on an Edelbrock SP2P manifold. Had a solenoid for the "extra" fuel from an electric pump, another solenoid for the N2O. Well apparently, I didn't have enough "extra" fuel for a couple of cylinders - burned a hole in one piston down the inside diameter of the rings and welded a couple of spark plug tips together!
@@shawnleider what is your point? He talked about putting bottles in roll-cages, not pressurizing them. And a bottle that a driver might put on or wear is bullsh|t.
@@aaronanderson7619 Yea, the internet is all knowing, all seeing, all truthful I guess. I mean, your profile looks like a bot, as does @Shawn Leider .... What I am trying to say, and clearly failed, is that for nitrous to have any measurable effect or meaningful performance from a bottle the size of one that would be in a driver suit and not be noticed .... my bad I guess. But then, I don't know, I wasn't there and haven't seen any photos. BTW - Foyt is no different than you or me or anyone else - he is just another guy that done particular things. I don't know why people idolize "celebrities" or high visible people. They are just people. Geez.
1:45 I got my transport and fill certificates so I could fill bottles. That was our thought exactly. Whoever was running juice, we knew it. Fogging 5.0s with a 50-100 hp shot was a big thing. I cant tell you how many of those kits we installed. Wet shots were required with a bigger shot because it needed that extra fuel. The tune was different too. Thats what the crane cams dial was for. Our tune was just a retard/advance knob. Simple and easy way to get that extra power. This really jogged memories
"You didn't know what you was looking at, unless you knew what you was looking at" classic line lol
Listening to old NASCAR stories is 3x more interesting and entertaining then watching a modern cup race
Races today are better than most races in the 2000s and you're just mad its not folksy yeehaw anymore
Not just NASCAR....The world.
Yeah. With Dale Jr and his guests don't have take a yellow flag break after every story.
Man they were really pushing it.
Wish there was a cheat to allow me to like this comment about 47 times
I love these "bending the rules" stories.
One of my favorite topics 🏁
Same
@@buddyshackleford961 if you aren't trying to bend rules, then are you really trying?
@@doomusrlc yes you're still trying
This is what made it racing back then you had to read not just look at a computer and run cars through static & dynamic cycles.
I love the stories of bending the rulebook. Such a great part of the history of the sport.
True.
For the slow drivers that is.
The good ones never needed the unfair edge and raced like men, shame they'll never go down as well known as all the frauds and hotheads
I love the Ray Evernham stories but sometimes he's so open about it that it feels like he's mocking the organization.
One of my favorites is when singer Marty Robbins admitted to cheating because he just wanted to see how it felt to win.
Did you watch the video? They said every single person was running a bottle in their car. Everybody.
@@PBRatLordcope much
Tony Furr should be a permanent voice on this podcast. I could listen to him talk racing stories and etc all day.
You're not kidding!!! Definitely something about his voice and the STORIES!! DAMN IT!!!
I love this stuff
Agree!
"You didn't know whatcha lookin at unless you knew whatcha looking at" 😂
"Bad-ass fast!" love Tony Furr, lol.
I had the privilege of my father working for Mark Martins neighbor and good friend. Back in the 90's, we would get all access pit passes, when that was still a thing. One Daytona 500, we're standing outside Marks hauler chatting. A crew member runs in, opens a cooler, and pulls out 4 shocks, we inquired why keep them on ice? The reply was, nascar tells us the required ride height, but not what temperature the shocks need to be. Always thought that was cool
The transmission that Tony was referring to was made by Rankin. When you shifted into high gear, it disconnected the counter shaft inside, so the only thing rotating was the main shaft. The horsepower it freed up was 3 tenths…NASCAR immediately outlawed the transmission. It was still legal in ARCA, some guys ran it for years.
Cool. That would only work for direct drive transmissions.
Man I wish you could have guys like this in today's NASCAR. The racing would be so much better.
The Hendricks boys are.
If they started their own series I wonder if people would start watching again.
The old races were great with the cars wiggling and sliding but staying on the track.
Now they are so dialed in and precise that it snaps around and you got guys bitter with each other over a racing deal
Maybe you do but you don't know it.
Cheat'n stories is one of my favorite things in racing
I love Tony Furr! He worked with us all through 2015 and I enjoyed my time with him more than anything, i mean he had SOOO MANY awesome stories! I could listen to him all day! Haven't seen him since though. Miss you bud!
i love the Dale Jr Download. I used to watch NASCAR all the time then I just stopped and haven't watched it in years, but listening to all these Dale Jr podcasts has got me back into it. Thanks Dale Forever #3
Same here bro. I grew up watching it with my dad and went to the race in New Hampshire every year. We haven't gone in years and I really wanna get back into it
Wait for the day Chad Knaus, can come on and tell stories. Tony Furr is true classic.
I could listen to his stories all day long! He really paints a picture... Dang what professionalism Junebug to continue on with your timeline of the conversation of the parts and races after he mentions that lovely but difficult story on your Dad hopping in the car at Daytona - it's pretty amazing what your Dad was and then what you have become - two sides of a coin but both gems (he more on the racing side - you on the announcing + history side to be remembered by - both of you racers/ owners carrying on from what your Grandpops started back of your MeMaw's house shop ; ) 🏁 M in Miami
I asked Dale Sr in 90 if he hit the Nitrous at Talladega and Benne his PR man said no no no and Dale just grinned!!!!
Ain't nothing like an Earnhardt grin
That’s awesome
In the mid 90s I helped a local guy race an ARCA car. At that time most of the cars had a vacuum gauge in it measuring cowl pressure. I know for a fact that a Sneaky Pete bottle was used in many qualifying laps. The driver would hide the bottle in his firesuit and when he got in he hooked the hose from it to the hose for the cowl gauge.
Great podcast!
Back in 1999 - 2002 I worked as a CNC machinist, small mom & pop shop. We did mostly aerospace work, but a neighbor in our industrial park was a NASCAR racer. Long story short, on our night shifts, we would make parts for this guy, out of titanium, and T-6, T-7 aluminum, giving him a little extra 'edge' against his competition. It was always fun helping, and we never charged him anything, aside of a case or two of beer :)
I raced motocross and we had a small shop make parts for us also. I miss those days , talking thinking of new ideas how to make things better.
That's cool!
THAT was cool
By chance was it Rusty?
@@0XxWoLvErInExX0 Sadly no. This was a NASCAR Super Stocker in Monroe, WA named John Bender. Great guy!
Man, as much of a fan and watcher as I am, just saw this one. What a classic! If you had a podcast that ONLY talked about the old "creative" things dude, thats all you'd need to do!
A damn shame Dale didn't get the chance to help Tony the next Tuesday. Much more than a shame but words won't come to describe it.
I love it!! I wish we could go back to this in NASCAR...so much more interesting!!
bending and breaking the rules stories are the best. Tony has lots of good stories and a great voice for the podcast.
Would love to hear the story of winning the Pepsi 400 with Andretti
That car was so crazy dominant
Yeah. What year was that, '98?
@@daviclar867 1997!
These stories are PRICELESS AND HISTORICAL because there wasn't too many people who had "INNOVATIONS " AND THE SMARTS AND TENACITY TO PULL OFF BENDING RULES AND STILL BE FOUND LEGAL AFTER THE RACE!!!!!LOL 😂😂😂😂😂Keep these awesome entertaining stories coming Dale,They're PRICELESS TREASURED BLESSINGS for fans from way back in the 50's, 60's and 70's. Those individuals were BRILLIANT 👍😁🏁🏆🏁 and irreplaceable!!!! These stories bring back so many HAPPY MEMORIES!!! THANKS DALE 💞 🤗 🙏
Cheating stories are the best they never get old
NASCAR will never have racers like these again. That was a special time.
One of the best ones yet, he was GREAT
Ol' Tony Furr, Hendrick's forgotten Genius. Thank you Junior, for having TF on your ultra popular podcast, because this Man was all but forgotten, but not now! 😉👍
Crazy to think they were all running nitrous. This might just be about the absolute best talk out there about cheating things up in NASCAR. Absolutely amazing all the stuff he came up with. The fuel light was really clever. I'm sure Jr was thrilled to learn all that new stuff. Very creative to just make the NOS bottle part of the cage/support bars.
I think those guys were the reason nascar was awesome back in the day. You had a collection of good ol boys who knew how to innovate.
That is one of the best episodes yet!
I’d heard his name and it was always associated with cool teams but I had NO idea he was behind so much INNOVATION!
I'm thinking that there were plenty of other "innovators in the Nascar garages during Tony's career in Nascar cause like Darryl Waltrip has said , there has always been "creativity" in auto racing and probably always will b😊😅😮😂😊❤
Man these stories about “innovation “ are great.
Those times (70’-early 80’s) in NASCAR were so interesting !
These stories are awesome!! I love it! 👍🏻
I could listen to that guy all day long.
NOS in NASCAR, The two have never crossed my mind. LoL
In it’s entirety (whole) the best conversation/interview EVER, regarding your Father/Crew/you/racing.
RAW, COURAGES!!
"You wouldn't know what you looking at unless you knew what you were looking at" Dale Earnhardt Jr 2023
"Innovator" lol
Got to say it one more time, “ we fogged it” awesome interview
Putting the nitrous bottle inside the radiator tank is brilliant. You didn't have to worry about if your bottle was warm.😆
As he talks about his fuel cell, all I can think about is the Nascar Thunder 2003 scenario where you recreate Jerry Nadeau running out of fuel with the lead in Atlanta and you have to make the car reach the end and win.
You just opened up a memory I completely forgot I had!
There’s no show as interesting as when you and Mike are together. Loved this content!
Love these episodes with Tony. Some great accounts of what really went on behind the scenes back in the day.
What great interview, Tony should be in the Hall of Fame. What a great history.
From Metrolina to Daytona, these are great stories!
I love these old stories. 😊
Idk how many guys are willing to come on and tell their stories like this but I’m here for it
Lol, is it true about "Fire Ball Roberts?". Everyone ran out of gas, he was still runing, lol. After the win, nascar imounpded his car on the front staight grass. Inspecters took out the gas tank and was checking this and that, no infraction. After a couple of hours, Fire Ball jumps in the car and drives away, lol.
“I had a fuel cell inside of a fuel cell”
-Tony Furr
In 1957 and 1958 we'd go to a tiny dirt track near Cuba NY. It was barely 1/4 mile oval. There was a driver called Doc Hocter (Hoctor?) He had a '37 ford flathead that almost won every race. He always "just" won in the late laps of a race. My dad noticed the tone of the engine would change and the exhaust pipe flame would turn blue. AND the smell of the exhaust changed. 20 years later I was reading about WW2 german fighter planes using nitrous. My brother finally crossed paths with Doc in the 80's. He asked him about his car. It turned out he was a tech sergeant in europe and was in a group that did technical research on german aircraft. He learned all about nitrous during the war. His "required" fire extinguisher was the nitrous tank.
Great stories from Tony. I could only imagine the way the old boys would do the magic to win races back in the day. That's why I always watch Junior's Show . He and Mike always bring the goods !!!!!!👍
I love these old stories! They should create a category at Hall of Fame for these guy’s creative engineering
I nominate Smokey Yunick to be the entire first year's entry into the Hall in that category!
Love to hear him talk about when NASCAR was great!
That cool stuff learning about Dale Sr out side of racing! And what they did to win racing in the day! Pretty awesome! Theses are super hero of racing!
Nascar is missing guys like this!
oh no, they're there and they're the ones NASCAR "fans" complain about
Not really, it's full of them. And they're even smarter since it's way harder to hide it.
Priceless. Thank y'all!
these are my favorite stories. Also, LOVE hearing about the innovation and the thoughts behind these ideas!
I love hearing these stories
More of this PLEASE!
These are my favorite stories. I could listen to all the old guys tell tales on how they were innovators. 😂
Those kinds of conversations are the best! Thanks for the video 😎👍
Now THAT is how innovation drives a sport forward! This was an excellent and engaging Dale Jr. Download interview. I wouldn't want to be the team not using these "tricks" while others were, but that's why every team was coming up with something in between the rules. The kind of motivated ingenuity that created exciting race performances in the history of racing, is what has made watching racing exciting over the years. Now everything is so tightly monitored, the ingenuity of these innovators has been sucked out of the sport. NASCAR needs to allow SOME areas for team mechanics to get an edge.
We need more innovators like this in racing today. Great stories!
there is just no one can talk about the stuff there doing 20 30 years from now we will hear about all the tricks of today
Just wait until Chad Knaus stories come out in the next 20 years.
might be a few years before hearing from Chad K.
I’ve heard a few of them, they’re mind blowing smart. One of the Ray Evernham/Jeff Gordon stories I’ve heard is so dadgum simple it’s hilarious!
And yet one of the greatest complaints people today have with the sport with any new drivers
These are the best stories. So interesting to hear all this behind the scenes talk
I never realize how much of an innovator he was
I’m going to have to watch this one five times.
What a happy video! Cows are happily munching dandelions, Chicks happily exploring the grass, Pete's happy with his work and Hillary even had a smile for missing one of Pete's jokes! Great video! One and all!
I find these stories fascinating. Pulling the curtain back so we can hear how creative these guys really were and still are
When Nascar was a bunch of good ole boys!
I never cheered for you but I sure do love your shows. ❤
Man it don’t get no better than them old dogs and there tricks i could listen to it all day love it
Love these stories!!
Dirty Mo killing it again with the content! Strong Work Folks!
This is one of my favorite episodes now. ❤️
Great story , love all these innovative professor's that spent tons of hours making new things work ...
I love these "innovation" stories so much!
Love the stories!
Loved your dad I grew up in Riverside CA saw him race slot any story about Dale I love it keep up the good work.
Dang Sounds like you need to hire this guy Lol
One of the best interviews
I was 12 when jr won his first race in texas sitting in turn 1 11 rows up. Greatest day of my racing life--finally 22 years later i get to hop in my own racecar. Listening to these old stories brings back some of the best memories of nascar in its best time
This content is just great, the stories that go with year's past being told by the legends are truly grand.
Hearing these old guys who are genius when it comes to getting around a rule just to get an edge is great listening
That was freaking awesome.
Tony is great storyteller. I've heard stories of guys ensuring the roll cage welds have zero pinholes, and simply pressurized the roll cage.
I fabricated my own setup (for my '75 Chevy Monza 2+2 and hid the 16lb tank in the spare tire area) with 3/8ths copper tubing (one for nitrous, one for "extra" fuel"), drilled a few holes each pointing down a port on an Edelbrock SP2P manifold. Had a solenoid for the "extra" fuel from an electric pump, another solenoid for the N2O. Well apparently, I didn't have enough "extra" fuel for a couple of cylinders - burned a hole in one piston down the inside diameter of the rings and welded a couple of spark plug tips together!
Pretty sure that specific story was told here
@@shawnleider what is your point? He talked about putting bottles in roll-cages, not pressurizing them. And a bottle that a driver might put on or wear is bullsh|t.
Glad to know that the stories of Foyt having a bottle in his suit are bs. Thanks for setting that straight random guy on the net.
@@aaronanderson7619 Yea, the internet is all knowing, all seeing, all truthful I guess. I mean, your profile looks like a bot, as does @Shawn Leider ....
What I am trying to say, and clearly failed, is that for nitrous to have any measurable effect or meaningful performance from a bottle the size of one that would be in a driver suit and not be noticed .... my bad I guess. But then, I don't know, I wasn't there and haven't seen any photos.
BTW - Foyt is no different than you or me or anyone else - he is just another guy that done particular things. I don't know why people idolize "celebrities" or high visible people. They are just people. Geez.
Love these stories one of the best ones when it comes to cheating!
The best stories are the innovative stories. It's what made nascar nascar.
Wow smart intelligent man love hearing those stories
That what racing is about. Knowing how to win. It's all about science
Furr is a legend.F*cking genius.
My favorite stories are always about the “innovations”.
Love hearing what the guys were doing, like what they got away with and what they got caught with
Racer to official: “That guy is cheating!” Official: “How do you know that?”….Racer: “Because I’m cheating and he’s beating me!”
Great show! I’ve been to a few fights where a race broke out!
Fantastic "history lesson." Great interview Jr!
Tony Furr was way smarter than I ever dreamed possible. So cool.
A lot of these crew chiefs from back in the day are legit engineering geniuses.
I love the drama you create it really is engaging. Keep it up!!!
1:45 I got my transport and fill certificates so I could fill bottles. That was our thought exactly. Whoever was running juice, we knew it. Fogging 5.0s with a 50-100 hp shot was a big thing. I cant tell you how many of those kits we installed. Wet shots were required with a bigger shot because it needed that extra fuel. The tune was different too. Thats what the crane cams dial was for. Our tune was just a retard/advance knob. Simple and easy way to get that extra power. This really jogged memories
That was awesome I didn't really know about the nitrous thing been watching for over 30 years he's a neat person to listen too