This has been my dream guitar since I was 15/16. About 2 years ago my wife got it for me as a Father’s Day gift and I love it! Definitely the one I would grab if the house was on fire
Sorry read your comment as "...consider _buying_ a Ben Burley..." And if they already made them and I didn't know about it I would try have my hands on one in no time xD
A guitar is tuned to E and a bass is tuned to E an entire octave down from the guitar. A baritone typically is tuned to B which is 2-1/2 steps down from a guitar and 2-1/2 steps up from a bass making it exactly between a guitar and a bass. A 7 string is also usually tuned to B. The only difference between a 7 string and a baritone is that a 7 string has a high e string.
Why does everyone hate on this guy? Just appreciate the fact that someone took the time out to review a piece of equipment for the public with nice recording equipment instead of some awful cellphone camera+mic
Paul is rad. He plays a bunch of styles pretty alright, knows what he speaks, and has what seems to be a pretty fun job. I bought this guitar. Thanks Paul-dog!
Lots of popular bands use these. I've seen Pete Loeffler (Chevelle) using one at a live gig, although I think it generally serves as his backup. I've also seen both Anthony Armstrong of RED and J.R. Bareis of Love and Death (Brian Head Welch's band) playing these. These guitars are definitely between a guitar and a bass, both in terms of length and tuning. I own one. They are built for heavier strings and can't handle higher tunings (like standard) or the neck would bow. It ships in B standard
According to Guitar Center, it's factory tuned to A. This guitar seems perfect, and isn't extremely expensive. I've been looking for a 22 fret baritone for a while.
I remember watching this video a year after it came out this guitar became my dream guitar. I own one now and I must say it’s the best guitar I own! Absolutely fantastic instrument!
It's interesting that he sums up every review with "And if I had to pick a guitar, it would be this one" or "If you're looking for such and such, look no further" These aren't reviews; they are advertisements. That's disappointing.
The Mushok Baritone goes for $600-700 bucks, I just got one from a friend that owns a music store for $500, and it's fantastic. I'm a touring musician and this guitar is going with me wherever I go now! In fact, I'll probably buy at least another one, it just kicks so much ass!
I own this guitar since day one, still the best 6 String I have for lower tuning. I recently bought the Marc Holcomb 7 String Baritone, it’s an amazing addition to my six string. The Mike Mushok I use for drop b to drop g , the Marc Holcomb i use for even lower tuning. Perfect if u can’t handle an 8String
I got one today and am pretty excited. I own four U.S. PRS's and have to say that in terms of quality their imports are probably the most consistent, and the most likely to be a guitar you'll still hang onto when you get a little more money or graduate to a more expensive guitar.
people over complicate this. A Baritone 6 string is the result of removing the high e string from a 7 string. Not that complicated. There is more to it but that's the easiest way to describe it
@AHMADF93 Baritone tuning is BEADG#B. So yes, any guitar can be tuned to baritone tuning, but here baritone guitar means that the guitar is especially made for this tuning, because of its longer scale, which means that the tension of the strings is higher and helps keep the tension needed for such a low tuning with less thick string gauge.
I'm not trying to argue, I'm just saying that it's actually got nothing to do with string configuration or anything like that. What Paul is talking about when he says it's between the two is scale length. And by the way, there is a reason a bass guitar and a guitar are called what they are. Baritone is the area of notes between bass and tenor (or something). The reason a baritone guitar is called a baritone guitar is because it "sits somewhere between a guitar and a bass"
A baritone is made with a longer scale length so that you can tune to B standard (which is the standard tuning for a Baritone) while using standard strings and having the strings at the same tension as a normal guitar in standard. Drop C is higher than B standard.
@MustGroove76 Depends on your preference. If you rather a narrower (Dunno if thats a word) neck, then go for the baritone. If you want more availability, such as the high E string, get the 7 string.
I'd really say B and below. You can comfortably tune any stand-scale neck guitar to drop C, as long as you don't use really light strings. I've done this for years with no problems.
As he said, that guitar is a Mike Mushok signature model. So his riffs are more sounding like Mushok's riffs, more sounding like Staind to demonstrate the capabilities of that guitar.
You can listen to a Blues band I saw at the Montreal Jazz Fest 09 where the frontman uses a Baritone guitar as a mean for rhythm guitar and bass; the band is MONKEYJUNK, they're on Myspace. Sorry for the spam, it's for the sake of baritone blues sampling.
actually it does if you look at it in terms of a choir the baritone singers are between the treble singers and the bass singers. Its the same in terms of guitars
I played one at Guitar Center last night for about an hour. I loved it & I want one. You could do some cool, dark doom metal with an axe like this through a fuzzed out Orange amp.
yeah thats exactly what i meant! infact, if u watch the video of paul, in which he reviewed prs mira, he played an octaves riff , as i call it in that video. my word u sould check that video out and listen to that riff. man thats the best of pauls riffs!
Played this guitar yesterday, i didn't buy it, but i want it. The new Torrero PRS SE's are very sweet as well.. still, i don't have a baritone yet...wish i could get both.
Two weeks I ago I wished it... Today I bought it! LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS!!! and Guitar World Paul and Paul (Reed Smith) both kickass in my book! But, hater's gonna hate.
@overoath123 actually it's all of their RADIO songs that sound alike, if you listen to their other music, it's different. Their RADIO songs have to fit a certain RADIO mold because it's on the RADIO and everybody is programmed to listen to certain things on the RADIO. Listen to "Ya'll want a single" from Korn and you'll understand.
True that about 7 and 8 strings. Although I actually play a 7 string, and I would say it's closer to a regular guitar than an 8 string. As a matter of fact, i would say that an 8 string is some sort of psychotic extended range bass almost. I mean, the main reason I say that is because most people who use them focus WAAAAY to much on the lowermost f# string and often tune it down to E, making it essentially a bass, and use the lowest part more than the highest.
I've seen people complain that the guitar is too muddy. Its probably the pickups. PRS gets a lot of shit about their SE pickups when used in a high-gain setting. Your best bet is to replace the pickups, if you don't like them. I've also heard some bad things about their tuners, so might want to get those changed if you don't like 'em.
While that is a valid point, guitars and voices are different instruments. My only argument with that is in a mix, guitars are supposed to be part of the mid-range and not treble, so the guitar would be more like a baritone anyway and not a tenor and (or) alto.
If you want Drop C use Ernie Ball Heavy Top,, a yellow packaging, but i wouldn`t use Drop C, C# is where it`s at ;) Just so you know, this guitar is Baritone, it`s tuned from E Standard to B which is two semitones from C, and your guitar in Drop C is 2 semitones on the lowest string and 4 semitones on the rest, that`s no use, if you buy a Baritone guitar, play it`s orignal tuning..
It took me FOREVER to track one of these bad boys down, I finally got one off Amazon. Its great for Breaking Benjamin/Skillet/RED type music. Gotta have the .14-.70 strings though
@0AllForNaught0 The longer scale helps with the bending of the string when fretting, yes; that is the whole point. Pointing the finger is pretty mature as well. It's not childish, multi-platinum artists and guitar makers do it all the time, it's called 7 strings and bands like disturbed. Just look at about half the 7 strings made, hell even the schecter and ibanez 8 strings (that are tuned like a bass) are 26.5 (schecter) and 27 (ibanez) and 24.75 for gibson 7 string explorer. Look it up.
@Niamorg1007 Dude, you can tune a 25.5 in scale to AEADGB all the way up to EADGBE or even higher and have no problems, as long as you buy the right kind of strings and set it up correctly. This can be proven by Schecter 7/8 string (26.5in scale), ibanez 7string (25.5), and gibson explorer 7 string (24.75). They all have the same BEADGBE tuning. With a baritone, the BEADGB has better tension due to the scale length, but it can be done on other guitars.
@olivermichael88 no problem. the ONLY reason that he said you cant tune it to standard is because it comes with .14-.68 gauge strings haha and hes right, strings that thick cant do it. but if you put thinner strings on .09-.42 itll be great! by the way, you dont need the octave4plus strings. ernie ball super slinky's (.09-.42) are long enough to fit the guitar. if you want a bit more tension, you could go with the regular slinky's (.10-.46)
@Niamorg1007 Absolutely no problem at all. You could even tune it to standard E, with light strings, like Buckethead does. Enjoy the extra tension ans the sweet sounds! :)
@MustGroove76 ive heard of guitarist replacing 7 strings with a mike musok baritone. chris from decyfer down uses this guitar live instead of a 7 string
this is one of the PRS models im looking to buy, although i like the other Mushok guitar color better personally, the other im looking at is the Paul Allender model with the active pick ups. But from what Ive heard on this video, Im liking this model very much. Cant afford the Mira model but you cant go wrong with PRS either way.
hey, might i ask what type of wood the fretboard is made of? i am thinking of building a guitar and i am want m neck to have that kind of fingerboard. does ther hapen to be any sort of like grain cracks in it or somthing? id like to have a very smooth fretboard to make things easier.
Im not as familiar with baritone guitars, how does a baritone guitar compare to playing a 7 string or 8 string guitar (except the fact its less strings of course) but like sounds wise whats the difference? just curious
@KingofPho75 It would be very difficult to tune this guitar to E standard. Not only would you need very very thin strings, but a super high tension and intonation problems would be found at every corner. From experience I know that most PRS guitars come standard with 10-48 strings. you would need something as thin as 8's or even 7's to achieve the tuning you would want. Now a nice alternative if you wanted the same basic sound would be a SE Paul Allender model.
@devvilboyy676767 That is because both share similar tunings, generally B. I only asked if you were a beginner because most beginners don't know that and some think a baritone 7 string is tuned to as bass E when it's actually tuned like most 7s.
Oh & for anyone who cares, when I was playing it I had it tuned to CGCFAD & it didn't sound muddy or anything like that. In fact it sounded great distorted & clean.
This has been my dream guitar since I was 15/16. About 2 years ago my wife got it for me as a Father’s Day gift and I love it! Definitely the one I would grab if the house was on fire
They should seriously consider making a Ben Burnley Baritone model. SE and Maryland made
Do they still sell?
Sell what?
Sorry read your comment as "...consider _buying_ a Ben Burley..."
And if they already made them and I didn't know about it I would try have my hands on one in no time xD
Oh lol XD Man if they DID make one, holy shit I'd grab one of those puppies as fast as i could lol
Bens guitar is a one of a kind, custom made baritone. I don't think they will ever put one like his on the market sadly
A guitar is tuned to E and a bass is tuned to E an entire octave down from the guitar. A baritone typically is tuned to B which is 2-1/2 steps down from a guitar and 2-1/2 steps up from a bass making it exactly between a guitar and a bass. A 7 string is also usually tuned to B. The only difference between a 7 string and a baritone is that a 7 string has a high e string.
Mills Custom Guitars Baritone is 2 and a half steps down from a guitar but "3 and a half" steps up from a bass.
The clean riff is super catchy for me, I would love to take that riff and turn into a heavy reminiscing type song.
Why does everyone hate on this guy? Just appreciate the fact that someone took the time out to review a piece of equipment for the public with nice recording equipment instead of some awful cellphone camera+mic
Paul is rad. He plays a bunch of styles pretty alright, knows what he speaks, and has what seems to be a pretty fun job. I bought this guitar. Thanks Paul-dog!
Lots of popular bands use these. I've seen Pete Loeffler (Chevelle) using one at a live gig, although I think it generally serves as his backup. I've also seen both Anthony Armstrong of RED and J.R. Bareis of Love and Death (Brian Head Welch's band) playing these.
These guitars are definitely between a guitar and a bass, both in terms of length and tuning. I own one. They are built for heavier strings and can't handle higher tunings (like standard) or the neck would bow. It ships in B standard
"Let's get some real heavy riffing and see what this baritone can do"
*Doesn't play Carcass*
Huh?
🤗
According to Guitar Center, it's factory tuned to A. This guitar seems perfect, and isn't extremely expensive. I've been looking for a 22 fret baritone for a while.
I remember watching this video a year after it came out this guitar became my dream guitar. I own one now and I must say it’s the best guitar I own! Absolutely fantastic instrument!
What string set do you use? i can't decide on a good set
It's interesting that he sums up every review with "And if I had to pick a guitar, it would be this one" or "If you're looking for such and such, look no further" These aren't reviews; they are advertisements. That's disappointing.
he only reviews really nice ones
CR What's the point of reviewing a shitty guitar?
This isn't a review. They need to stop calling these reviews. They're demos.
"Lets play some heavy stuff now..*plays harmonic slide for an hour*"
I lol'd
The Mushok Baritone goes for $600-700 bucks, I just got one from a friend that owns a music store for $500, and it's fantastic. I'm a touring musician and this guitar is going with me wherever I go now! In fact, I'll probably buy at least another one, it just kicks so much ass!
"It's got PRS designed pickups" (focuses camera on headstock)
I own this guitar since day one, still the best 6 String I have for lower tuning. I recently bought the Marc Holcomb 7 String Baritone, it’s an amazing addition to my six string.
The Mike Mushok I use for drop b to drop g , the Marc Holcomb i use for even lower tuning. Perfect if u can’t handle an 8String
I got one today and am pretty excited. I own four U.S. PRS's and have to say that in terms of quality their imports are probably the most consistent, and the most likely to be a guitar you'll still hang onto when you get a little more money or graduate to a more expensive guitar.
people over complicate this. A Baritone 6 string is the result of removing the high e string from a 7 string. Not that complicated. There is more to it but that's the easiest way to describe it
@AHMADF93 Baritone tuning is BEADG#B. So yes, any guitar can be tuned to baritone tuning, but here baritone guitar means that the guitar is especially made for this tuning, because of its longer scale, which means that the tension of the strings is higher and helps keep the tension needed for such a low tuning with less thick string gauge.
agreed, he does have a unique style but i think that's what always draws me into watching
That riff from 4:00 was beastly
i know a guy who bought one and he swapped the pups out straight away. But the Guitar itsellf looks really nice and plays amazingly well
That a beautiful little ditty there paul
I love the baritone tunings, I tried the B tuning and its very good.
I'm not trying to argue, I'm just saying that it's actually got nothing to do with string configuration or anything like that. What Paul is talking about when he says it's between the two is scale length. And by the way, there is a reason a bass guitar and a guitar are called what they are. Baritone is the area of notes between bass and tenor (or something). The reason a baritone guitar is called a baritone guitar is because it "sits somewhere between a guitar and a bass"
A baritone is made with a longer scale length so that you can tune to B standard (which is the standard tuning for a Baritone) while using standard strings and having the strings at the same tension as a normal guitar in standard. Drop C is higher than B standard.
@MustGroove76
Depends on your preference. If you rather a narrower (Dunno if thats a word) neck, then go for the baritone. If you want more availability, such as the high E string, get the 7 string.
Agreed. I would say it sits somewhere between a 6-stringed and a 7-stringed.
I must say... that clean setting blew my fucking mind.
Hey I found this video when I was a kid, and now I’m about to be 25 and looking to get a baritone. What were you playing in the tune demo?
i like the riff he plays on the clean channel. sounds amazing on the neck pickup.
Baritones have been around for a while. They are really popular in Metal.
I'd really say B and below. You can comfortably tune any stand-scale neck guitar to drop C, as long as you don't use really light strings. I've done this for years with no problems.
I wish they would make the body slightly arched like the Se single cuts. it would seriously up the appeal of these guitars 100 fold.
what is that awesome clean chord progression you were doing? that sounds awesome!!
I really admire this guy
As he said, that guitar is a Mike Mushok signature model. So his riffs are more sounding like Mushok's riffs, more sounding like Staind to demonstrate the capabilities of that guitar.
You can listen to a Blues band I saw at the Montreal Jazz Fest 09 where the frontman uses a Baritone guitar as a mean for rhythm guitar and bass; the band is MONKEYJUNK, they're on Myspace. Sorry for the spam, it's for the sake of baritone blues sampling.
@ghostds88 The normal tuning for a baritone guitar would be B standard, 2.5 steps down. So instead of regular tuning from E - e it would be B - b
actually it does if you look at it in terms of a choir the baritone singers are between the treble singers and the bass singers. Its the same in terms of guitars
I played one at Guitar Center last night for about an hour. I loved it & I want one. You could do some cool, dark doom metal with an axe like this through a fuzzed out Orange amp.
Paul RULES!
that guitar it's perfect for me, i just need to change the pickups for emg's and it's perfect, elegant, simple and awesome
yeah thats exactly what i meant! infact, if u watch the video of paul, in which he reviewed prs mira, he played an octaves riff , as i call it in that video. my word u sould check that video out and listen to that riff. man thats the best of pauls riffs!
This is the first I've ever heard of a baritone guitar.
loved the clean riff
Played this guitar yesterday, i didn't buy it, but i want it. The new Torrero PRS SE's are very sweet as well.. still, i don't have a baritone yet...wish i could get both.
Two weeks I ago I wished it... Today I bought it! LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS!!!
and Guitar World Paul and Paul (Reed Smith) both kickass in my book!
But, hater's gonna hate.
and yes it does sit between a guitar and a bass
Ok, so for a baritone the tuning is what a guitarist would call either "drop C" or "C to C" tuning, right? Or is it another beast entirely?
i want this guitar so bad now
Very nice sounding guitar and cool riffs....does anyone know what tuning it is played on?
What Song is the heavy riff from??? Nice demo by the way!
@overoath123 actually it's all of their RADIO songs that sound alike, if you listen to their other music, it's different. Their RADIO songs have to fit a certain RADIO mold because it's on the RADIO and everybody is programmed to listen to certain things on the RADIO. Listen to "Ya'll want a single" from Korn and you'll understand.
change the pickups to the EMTY blackouts, and it sounds fucking monstrous. i swear.
dude after seening this i sooo want baritone guitar now,im diffently picking me up one when i get me a new guitar :D
really like paul he is a genuian guitarist! he has a rather unique style! but its better than most shredders!
Song 1:38 to 2:05?? I'm not the only one who wants to know.
Laughing Man ugghh still waiting on a response
not an actual song just hitting some of the notes in a typical chord progression (basically just em, c, g, and occasionally hitting the d)
@Falling2Grey29 o okay thank you very much for your help
True that about 7 and 8 strings. Although I actually play a 7 string, and I would say it's closer to a regular guitar than an 8 string. As a matter of fact, i would say that an 8 string is some sort of psychotic extended range bass almost. I mean, the main reason I say that is because most people who use them focus WAAAAY to much on the lowermost f# string and often tune it down to E, making it essentially a bass, and use the lowest part more than the highest.
its beautiful
I've seen people complain that the guitar is too muddy. Its probably the pickups. PRS gets a lot of shit about their SE pickups when used in a high-gain setting. Your best bet is to replace the pickups, if you don't like them. I've also heard some bad things about their tuners, so might want to get those changed if you don't like 'em.
Sounds awesome, how is it tuned in this video?
"Real heavy riffing"
"Low heavy riffing"
@deathcore1239 AWSOME, any idea how it would affect the overall baritone sound using those strings?
While that is a valid point, guitars and voices are different instruments. My only argument with that is in a mix, guitars are supposed to be part of the mid-range and not treble, so the guitar would be more like a baritone anyway and not a tenor and (or) alto.
My boy Paul has some chops! Wonder why he didn't do some country twang with it! Especially with his modern country chops!
If you want Drop C use Ernie Ball Heavy Top,, a yellow packaging, but i wouldn`t use Drop C, C# is where it`s at ;)
Just so you know, this guitar is Baritone, it`s tuned from E Standard to B which is two semitones from C, and your guitar in Drop C is 2 semitones on the lowest string and 4 semitones on the rest, that`s no use, if you buy a Baritone guitar, play it`s orignal tuning..
It took me FOREVER to track one of these bad boys down, I finally got one off Amazon. Its great for Breaking Benjamin/Skillet/RED type music. Gotta have the .14-.70 strings though
@GameKid98 not to mention he's got a job that most of us would kill to have!
@0AllForNaught0 The longer scale helps with the bending of the string when fretting, yes; that is the whole point. Pointing the finger is pretty mature as well. It's not childish, multi-platinum artists and guitar makers do it all the time, it's called 7 strings and bands like disturbed. Just look at about half the 7 strings made, hell even the schecter and ibanez 8 strings (that are tuned like a bass) are 26.5 (schecter) and 27 (ibanez) and 24.75 for gibson 7 string explorer. Look it up.
@Niamorg1007 Dude, you can tune a 25.5 in scale to AEADGB all the way up to EADGBE or even higher and have no problems, as long as you buy the right kind of strings and set it up correctly. This can be proven by Schecter 7/8 string (26.5in scale), ibanez 7string (25.5), and gibson explorer 7 string (24.75). They all have the same BEADGBE tuning. With a baritone, the BEADGB has better tension due to the scale length, but it can be done on other guitars.
its weird to see mushok's new model from PRS and not Ibanez.
good review. love the clean riff.
@olivermichael88 no problem. the ONLY reason that he said you cant tune it to standard is because it comes with .14-.68 gauge strings haha and hes right, strings that thick cant do it. but if you put thinner strings on .09-.42 itll be great! by the way, you dont need the octave4plus strings. ernie ball super slinky's (.09-.42) are long enough to fit the guitar. if you want a bit more tension, you could go with the regular slinky's (.10-.46)
1:38 it's amazing! is it an improvisation?
Sounds great!
@ryankuisti have you played a 7 string? it feels like a completly different instrument the first time!
is he improvising at 4:04??? or its a song........ sounds great
@Niamorg1007 Absolutely no problem at all. You could even tune it to standard E, with light strings, like Buckethead does. Enjoy the extra tension ans the sweet sounds! :)
I'm in love with PRS's because of Pete Loeffler of Chevelle
@MustGroove76 ive heard of guitarist replacing 7 strings with a mike musok baritone. chris from decyfer down uses this guitar live instead of a 7 string
he's improved a lot!
this is one of the PRS models im looking to buy, although i like the other Mushok guitar color better personally, the other im looking at is the Paul Allender model with the active pick ups. But from what Ive heard on this video, Im liking this model very much. Cant afford the Mira model but you cant go wrong with PRS either way.
sounds awesome
@mothertaco He uses tuning's from low to to high
Bb,Eb,Ab,Db,F#,Bb.
Ab,Eb,Ab,Db,F#,Bb.
Ab,Db,Ab,Db,F#,Bb.
Gb,Db,Ab,Db,F#,Bb.
Hope that helps you!
Baritones are typically in B Standard to begin with, no reason to get a baritone for Drop C....
Scale length. I believe it's 28 inch scale? As opposed to 25.5 or 24.75.
hey, might i ask what type of wood the fretboard is made of? i am thinking of building a guitar and i am want m neck to have that kind of fingerboard. does ther hapen to be any sort of like grain cracks in it or somthing? id like to have a very smooth fretboard to make things easier.
I'm looking for a baritone guitar in the $200-$400 range which one would be best for this price range
is there a big difference in the playing when you switch from a normal guitar to a baritone ? i mean is it hard to play the baritone then ?
@SteelSkin667 Thanks for your help bro.
@SanjeevGeorgeV hes playing in Drop B but i would say the best tuning to play on a baritone guitar is Drop A#
Im not as familiar with baritone guitars, how does a baritone guitar compare to playing a 7 string or 8 string guitar (except the fact its less strings of course) but like sounds wise whats the difference? just curious
@KingofPho75 It would be very difficult to tune this guitar to E standard. Not only would you need very very thin strings, but a super high tension and intonation problems would be found at every corner. From experience I know that most PRS guitars come standard with 10-48 strings. you would need something as thin as 8's or even 7's to achieve the tuning you would want. Now a nice alternative if you wanted the same basic sound would be a SE Paul Allender model.
@devvilboyy676767
That is because both share similar tunings, generally B. I only asked if you were a beginner because most beginners don't know that and some think a baritone 7 string is tuned to as bass E when it's actually tuned like most 7s.
Are there no fret markers on this guitar? I've been playing for awhile but I still rely on the inlays to navigate.
@XFattMonsterX I'm thinking of getting this guitar myself, how difficult is it to adapt to the longer scale length?
whats the MAIN difference between tuning normal scale guitar in b, and playing on a baritone?
@JerkyChid so it's a 6 tuned to the standard 7 string tuning?
Oh & for anyone who cares, when I was playing it I had it tuned to CGCFAD & it didn't sound muddy or anything like that. In fact it sounded great distorted & clean.
i use all the way from Drop C to Drop B flat., sounds sexy on all tuning
It's quite ballsy that's for sure.
Lol i put it down into drop G and it worked great.
Nice
That's the beauty of playing a PRS. It's like driving a Ferrari heheh.
yes it does