Why this World SAVED the Republic Only to Later Join the SEPARATISTS

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  • Опубликовано: 25 дек 2024

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  • @oriongear2499
    @oriongear2499 Год назад +93

    I know Felucia was paired with Mygeeto and Saleucami as the "Triad Of Evil", but I'd like to see a video about what happened to Felucia after the Clone Wars.

    • @needtoknow6423
      @needtoknow6423 Год назад +3

      It was starkiller'd

    • @teleportedbreadfor3days
      @teleportedbreadfor3days Год назад +2

      @@needtoknow6423 lol and what about after that

    • @drfitz462
      @drfitz462 Год назад +1

      Basically got screwed by the Empire and the water supply was poisoned during the Clone Wars so not much happened beyond the Force Unleashed stuff

  • @JustAnotherUser565
    @JustAnotherUser565 Год назад +38

    It’s kind of funny to think that nearly every world that was instrumental in saving the Old Republic thousands of years ago; i.e. Dantooine, Onderon, and of course Telos IV all ended up siding with the CIS. Adding even more irony, the end of the Clone Wars also marked the end of the Old Republic.

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 Год назад +96

    It was a different Republic back then. The Old Republic cared when the modern Republic did not. I just hope that Telos survived the Empire and restored itself once more after finally being free. It's a sad story the Planet of Telos, but not one without hope. They've rebuilt before, they can do it again. I have confidence in that. The people are hardy and resilient, they will endure. That is how Telos will survive.

    • @christopherg2347
      @christopherg2347 Год назад +4

      "It's not me that changed, but you!"

    • @tristankawatsuma8962
      @tristankawatsuma8962 Год назад +10

      The video kind of tells a different story. Personally, it seems more likely the reason for Telos joining the Separatists was the corporate interests. According to Wookiepedia, the corporations on Telos became the new rulers after that dark Jedi was defeated. I do have to wonder if the Separatist military took advantage of violent turn their culture took. Judging by Legends, I guess the Telosians were celebrating at first when the Republic drove off Separatists, especially if Obi-Wan was leading the charge. Just like Mimban, Ryloth, Christophsis, Kashyyk, and plenty of other planets. And then the Republic becomes the Empire either days or hours before the war ends. People in both the Legends and Canon galaxies must have felt cheated when they realized the Empire was worse than the CIS by miles.

    • @Otterdisappointment
      @Otterdisappointment Год назад +1

      You’d think the Clone Wars era and after would make more planets developed to near total independence

    • @Prophetofthe8thLegion
      @Prophetofthe8thLegion Год назад +5

      “Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.”

    • @tristankawatsuma8962
      @tristankawatsuma8962 Год назад +1

      @@Otterdisappointment I’ll admit that I wouldn’t blame most planets for going down that route. Ryloth did after all. Of course, then come the negatives of having to live in a divided galaxy. The potential for war is higher as nobody is bound to solving all their issues peacefully and economic and social differences are just going to grow greater than they did under a galactic government. Sure, some planets will join alliances that may at most include their entire sector, but you could still get into a conflict with another sector. Still as much as I am on the side of the galaxy being united under one government, I doubt these issues will get so bad the people will want to create a galactic alliance or galactic government after a few generations. Unless of course there is a massive galactic event where the disunity of the galaxy nearly leads to its destruction.

  • @AIB2K8
    @AIB2K8 Год назад +39

    It went from the Republic helping people, to the Empire hurting people…..

  • @aegisforce6077
    @aegisforce6077 Год назад +12

    1:20 everything changed when the fire nation attacked

  • @jon6309
    @jon6309 Год назад +10

    Naboo and Bespin are gems outside of the core and colonies. I wonder if real estate was cheaper since they were located in the rim but Bespin’s cloud city had limited housing available so I would guess it’s expensive due to supply and demand.

  • @Whoopu2
    @Whoopu2 Год назад +4

    I bet Carth was turning over in his damn grave when Telos joined the CIS.

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 Год назад +8

    *thumbnail*
    Before: "Come, best buddy. Let's have a drink."
    After: "You owe me 66 credits! Give them to me!"

  • @joshuakolton9955
    @joshuakolton9955 Год назад +5

    7:26 I remember when I was a kid and saw this book's cover, I had thought that the hologram of Xanatos was Anakin from Ep 3 and got really confused. 😅

  • @vikingsword3485
    @vikingsword3485 Год назад +13

    Honestly the reason there was no change in the planets power structure leads me to think the Republic was far more corrupt than we are led to believe

    • @tomaskops7119
      @tomaskops7119 Год назад +1

      One part this way corrupt, one part so much ignorant

    • @vikingsword3485
      @vikingsword3485 Год назад +1

      @@tomaskops7119 I would love to hear your side of things. Personally I am not an expert on star wars. I tend to use what I know of real life to fill in the blanks. If you think you can enlighten me on either subject I am open to it. I won't even use quick searches as a handicap for you

    • @tomaskops7119
      @tomaskops7119 Год назад +1

      @@vikingsword3485 For first part - After last Sith wars bacnrupt state need rebuild, but how to pay, only with rights and favours for rich, so corporation made connection to corrusant and give direct and undirect powers. Corporation after thousands years of mining need new resources, so Telos with most planet resources unouched were Eldorado, so this way they benefit from this unchanged goverment and later joining to CIS so much, that they can use these political strings to holt status quo after all. Republic as whole just ignore the big problem, and only who try reason was Jedi order, for most time Republic try ( mostly unsucessfully ) reasonlarger problems - for example Stark Hyperspace War or Trade Federation crisis

    • @vikingsword3485
      @vikingsword3485 Год назад +1

      @@tomaskops7119 I think I only made one point but regardless you make it sound like the only way to retain power is to sell out citizens and go into debt. From what I know it takes only a small percentage of people to change the opinion of the masses.Even if you sell out it tends to lead to civil war that outside countries or planets in this case take advantage of. During the American revolution the French backed them. Even today you end up with warlords in say Africa or uprisings in China.

    • @brendanclark1058
      @brendanclark1058 Год назад +1

      @@vikingsword3485I don’t think he was calling you ignorant if that’s what you were thinking. I think he was talking about the societies in the lore.

  • @Pekuu132
    @Pekuu132 Год назад +5

    The fact that they developed something as contradictory as opaque transparasteel should have been the first warning

  • @princeofpokemon2934
    @princeofpokemon2934 Год назад +11

    You should cover the weirdest ships in Galactic history. Including the Uglies

  • @zexalbrony4799
    @zexalbrony4799 Год назад +14

    It was most likely the corporate elements that forced Telos to join the CIS, like they did for several other worlds, after how much the Republic did for them in the past, as well as the Jedi trying to help them deal with the troubles on their planet it's hard to believe they would willingly suceed.

  • @amkwiesel7241
    @amkwiesel7241 Год назад +2

    Xanatos is actually Qui Gons second Padawan. He had one before him named Feemor who he took on after Feemors original Master died if i remeber correctly.

  • @Lego-Joe-1
    @Lego-Joe-1 Год назад +3

    You know what planet drastically changed? Alderaan

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion Год назад +7

    Whenever I found an opportunity, I will always asked it: Is the single gaalctic government like the Republic no more a good thing? I'm not saying the Empire that came after it is better or anything. It's just that the Republic itself is too big to govern. In my view, the Republic should remained just at the Core Worlds while the rest of the galaxy developed their own nation states.

  • @Americandragonrider333.
    @Americandragonrider333. Год назад

    Jabiim.
    It’s history before, during and after the Clone Wars!
    Just like you did here with Telos.
    Magnificent episode by the way!

  • @Ghiaman1334
    @Ghiaman1334 Год назад +6

    I wish I could have faith in colossal failures like the Jedi Order

    • @AbsurdFalcon
      @AbsurdFalcon Год назад

      I mean it’s not like the Jedi didn’t ensured peace for thousands of years before at the prequels?
      In Canon the Republics Golden Age of peace and prosperity was a result of the Jedis aid during the High Republic.
      Its was not even a matter of the Jedi being overtly different during the High Republic either considering that Yoda, Oppo Rancisis, Yaddle, Yareal Poof, and Tera Sinube were all Masters/Council Members during the time period.
      The senates the one who dropped the ball more then the Jedi.

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 Год назад +3

    Telos: Uno Reverse Card

  • @akale2620
    @akale2620 Год назад +1

    Not all planets stayed the same.
    Cries in alderaan

  • @BaxterAndLunala
    @BaxterAndLunala Год назад

    Dude, the last image of a planet ravaged by war wasn't one of Telos IV, it was Harvest, a planet from a separate franchise.

  • @ballzackball7170
    @ballzackball7170 Год назад +1

    What was the time system used in star wars before the battle of yavin because I know they didn't use bby or aby

  • @willjennings7191
    @willjennings7191 Год назад

    I learned about the Ithorians and their relationship with the Force, here.

  • @TheLeatheryman
    @TheLeatheryman Год назад +2

    Empress Teta

  • @neofulcrum5013
    @neofulcrum5013 Год назад +2

    Bet they were really in for a rough time when the empire came to power

  • @MrHungryMello
    @MrHungryMello Год назад +1

    Is that a L4D medkit in the thumbnail?😂

  • @teleportedbreadfor3days
    @teleportedbreadfor3days Год назад

    I personally do believe Telos would return to the New Republic and they would aim stronger than ever to restore their world to the one it was before and seek to keep it that way, one of natural beauty and without corporations while aiming to restore certain other things like the Sacred Places as best as possible. Given how long and strongly Telos stood without the usual stuff worlds struggle to live without such as industrialism, I doubt they’d let themselves give in, too. With that in mind, Telos definitely stood as something, not just due to what they had, but also what they lacked, and they prospered anyway.
    Speaking of Telos, I think it’s possible their mysterious famine, occurring on a literal farming world that headquartered the Jedi Order’s Agricultural Corp, was brought upon by Sith influence. I doubt the Banite Sith would ignore such an important Republic world with such an impactful history, so a plan was formed to ruin the world and corrupt his governments to give a blow to the Republic, causing a rift to form between them. Sidious would surely hate Telos for everything that it is and for that would continue to punish it and its people.

  • @SpartanB275
    @SpartanB275 Год назад

    I've played enough Halo to know that planet at 9:38 is actually Harvest from Halo Wars after being glassed. The things you notice when you're a multi-fandom nerd! 😂

  • @HeadShot50xp
    @HeadShot50xp Год назад

    Super sic thumbnail dude, seriously,

  • @grandmoffgavin8895
    @grandmoffgavin8895 Год назад +2

    Lets goooooooo.
    Yo geets, i heard Adi Galia used a red kightsaber once upon a time. Thoughts?

    • @Epsolon885
      @Epsolon885 Год назад +4

      I wouldn’t say she used a red lightsaber sinced that comic at that time was before AoC and miscolored Mace Windu’s lightsaber. Even Sharrad hett’s lightsaber was red in those comics when it was actually green.

    • @grandmoffgavin8895
      @grandmoffgavin8895 Год назад +2

      @@Epsolon885 I see I see

    • @oriongear2499
      @oriongear2499 Год назад

      *lightsaber

    • @grandmoffgavin8895
      @grandmoffgavin8895 Год назад +1

      @@oriongear2499 holy shit how did that get there 😂

  • @starwarzchik112
    @starwarzchik112 Год назад

    Never mind me, I’m just here to fangirl over Carth 🧡

  • @christopherg2347
    @christopherg2347 Год назад

    5:48 _Opaque_ transparent steel?
    So, normal durasteel?

  • @rafavizuetecastro
    @rafavizuetecastro Год назад

    I wonder what happened to the agricultural corp during order 66, how they were attacked and so

  • @theromanorder
    @theromanorder Год назад

    Please do a video on cis navy ranks and structure

  • @polishscribe674
    @polishscribe674 Год назад +1

    Just as I'm playing KOTOR 2...

  • @Otterdisappointment
    @Otterdisappointment Год назад

    More neutral good planets would be nice

  • @darthnexus9570
    @darthnexus9570 Год назад

    Not sure how to spell the capital of the Star Wars but I wouldn't mind getting the full story!!!

  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 Год назад

    And then their senator tynnra pamlo joins the rebel alliance.

  • @nickvinsable3798
    @nickvinsable3798 Год назад

    If you haven’t already, Cathar…

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Год назад

    Why don't you try Manaan next?

  • @commanderskarr6807
    @commanderskarr6807 Год назад

    Poor Carth he be rolling in his grave

  • @amanzeihedioha
    @amanzeihedioha Год назад

    Very err nice thumbnail, Geets😅

  • @nightterrors2976
    @nightterrors2976 Год назад

    Nice video

  • @moderndemon84
    @moderndemon84 Год назад

    Τήλος is a Greek island lol.

  • @andersonjulioborsatto1253
    @andersonjulioborsatto1253 Год назад

    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @DarthVages
    @DarthVages Год назад

    👍

  • @michaelandreipalon359
    @michaelandreipalon359 Год назад +2

    Bastards, and judging by the NJO era records we have, they didn't even get karmic retribution by the Yuuzhan Vong's hands.
    Oh, well, guess we have to make do with its harsh Imperial occupation instead.

    • @zexalbrony4799
      @zexalbrony4799 Год назад +2

      Are you referring to the people of Telos as bastards or the corporations that gained an influence on the planet?

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 Год назад

      @@zexalbrony4799 All of them. Even the innocents must share the pain for not doing anything to oppose such evil secessionist ideals.

    • @zexalbrony4799
      @zexalbrony4799 Год назад +4

      @@michaelandreipalon359 Hard to oppose when you're planet is owned by them, meaning they control everything including food shipments. Opposing Ideals are nice, but they don't put food on the table.
      Heck, if the Republic didn't invade and recapture Umbara as soon as they did, then Kashyyyk probably would have had to succeed, either by force or by choice because they would have been completely surrounded on all sides and cut off from the Republic and any shipments or aid, and I wouldn't have blamed the Wookies if they did. Now if they still remained with the CIS after some planet around them had been conquered or liberated, thus opening them back up with trade with the Republic then I would have blamed them since at that point the Republic could actually get to them to help and they still choose the CIS.

    • @tristankawatsuma8962
      @tristankawatsuma8962 Год назад +3

      @@michaelandreipalon359
      Okay, the clones are my favorite characters and I’m on the side of the Republic, but come on dude. Even the average diehard Separatist who wasn’t from a militaristic society or profited from the corporations didn’t know the truth about Dooku or what the CIS was actually meant to do. Dooku controlled the Shadowfeed and they wouldn’t listen to the Holonet about CIS war crimes because most people don’t trust the media of their enemy, especially if it’s nationalized. And even if they did know the truth, I wouldn’t blame them if they were very hesitant. I mean, they would have to fight the Droid armies and navies. And most Separatist worlds are Outer Rim planets low on infrastructure and thus defense forces. It’s why I like to separate the Separatist Senate and citizens from the rest of the CIS. In my minds, they were just used to mask the evil of the CIS with their real criticism of the Republic and also a means to fund the Separatist war machine. I mean, we all separate the Republic Senate, Military, and civilian population from Palpatine because we know he manipulated them all to serve him when the Empire came to power.