Glad to see you enjoying our RoadsterSport coilovers! One installation note for those following along: to make assembly of the coilover easier you can spin the collars further down the shock shaft, get the top hat installed on the shock, and then you can spin the collars up to our recommended starting position. This way you aren't fighting the spring resistance while trying to get the top nut on. 👍
Nice video on the NC, the best performance to value in a Miata right now. Love those RPF1's on my old Birkin. The best value in a wheel considering weight/strength/cost. I wish they made them in an application for my Caterham.
Wow! Thanks for the review of the RoadsterSport NC ClubSport Coilovers. I've been a fan of Good-Win Racing and have bought and installed a few of their goodies for my 2012 PRHT GT 6-speed over the past few years. I'm looking to replace my Progress Springs and Koni yellow adjustable shocks with coilovers and up until now, was leaning towards Ohlins Road and Track DFV Coilovers. I've been looking for a solution with more civilized handling with improved suspension travel over my current setup. It looks like the NC ClubSport Coilovers might be the way to go. Thanks again!
Congrats! I’ve had my eye on these. Just waiting to see if 225’s can give enough traction on a boosted NC before purchase. Plus the wide enkei’s look so good!
That's good to hear! Just wondering how is the track handling difference compared to something with the similar spring rate, like Ohlins and Xida with street setup? I know those are all way more expensive, but just want to have a realistic view of what's the gap with those big boys.
I currently have the Meister Rs, which I find brutal for the street after a couple of years. I'm debating these Goodwins or the touring Xidas, but those Xidas are much more expensive and may be overkill. So you've given me a lot of food for thought.
OK, you have me sold... I have a 2012 (Automatic) that I have been playing with for the past 1-1/2 years but my factory shocks are bottoming out and the coilover option is what I am looking at but unfortunately don't have a mechanic. So I am a little afraid to tackle this job myself. I will be looking for some quality mechanics in my area but if I don't find one by early spring I will tackle this job myself. Wish me luck
We have nearly the same car and same mods lol. Black PRHT, same exhaust, trackdog kit, etc. Love the Clubsport coilovers. I'm also running the RX8 red front/yellow rear swaybars.
Have the same coilover setup on my 2013 Grand Touring - it’s perfect for CT roads. That in combination with the GoodWin Shock tower X brace - handling, NVH and ride “composure” is sublime compared even to a stock NC.
Regarding the stock top hats; the RX-8 definitely uses the large top hats to increase rigidity of the structure while allowing for a lot of travel. I believe the stiffness is why the high end suspension kits use the stock top hats on the RX-8.
Great video...thank you ...currently running an Mx5 mk1 92 280whp ish on miester club sport... NC3 Is deffo my next car... already put Goodwin suspension on my wish list, this video just cements it.... please 🙏 please consider the bbr 300 type kit super charger, this conversion is getting alot of positive reviews this side of the pond, would love to here your spin on this .. 😊
Nice bit of kit! Always thought it's a bit of a shame the RPF1s need to be so wide to get the 'R' face, but that's the price for the lip I guess. If the offset is the same between those two wheels, I wonder if you could get away with running the 235 instead of the 245 on the Enkeis?
Love you guys! But no mention of SuperMiata Xidas? They likely match or beat the GWR's in travel, comfort, weight, and performance. Not hating though, those look like a great option!
They aren't for the same kind of customer or usage. I bought the XIDAs when they came out. They are amazing on the track and are also much more expensive. They are more than acceptable on the road, but also twice the cost.
Curious which route you will go for added reliable power for street/track use. FM has to be close to releasing their turbo kit. The kraftworks 12psi kit looks really nice as well and has been around for 10+ years
Yep, Goodwin are the guys to talk to, especially for the NC chassis. When i got my 06 6-sp, I just wanted to improve the ride and handling and get rid of that hideous NC1 stock ride height. Talked to Goodwin, went with their Progress springs and Koni yellows, roadster sport sways, new goodwin bumpstops, some shorter sway endlinks, 17x8;RPF-1s... totally transformed the car ...perfect for street use on New Jersey roads. Worked with goodwin on my prior NA too, same results.
Definitely get the max power header. Stock header/cat design is terrible. It really wakes up the car. It will be louder though obviously. Even with the super q which I have as well. Sounds great too. I have a sound clip vid on my channel to reference.
Wait, the red ones are meister r's?? Are those the 750 dollar ones? Should I wait and save up more for the 1600 ones here? Or are the meisters good enough for street? Im shocked at the size difference honestly. I figured they were good enough but now it makes me want to save up more and go with these.
Spring preload is mainly a nonconcern as long as you have some, and it's not resulting in coilbind. The height of your car should be set with the spring perch regardless.
Hey I’m trying get a response on your triumph car lift video. I want to know how thick the platform is. Everywhere online says 3 or 3.5 inches… can you get that measurement?
Edit: Misunderstood the comment in video about midpipe and axleback and assumed. My bad! -I hate to be that guy, but if you still have the stock header you still have the primary restriction from the stock system, which is an abysmally crimped four to one collector before the OEM header cat. Curious to see if you will go for one of Goodwins headers, and if so which one! I have a max power I haven't gotten around to installing yet.-
so the only way to lower the car more would be to adjust the preload softer? and no dampening? as someone running the CRDs it seems crazy to give up dampening and height adjustment. almost like you took a step backwards. just trying to understand here
@@Stephen-ww6zl there is easy ride height adjustment by lowering the perches. No, there isn’t dampening adjustment but the springs, and shock valving are specifically designed for this chassis so it’s much better than adapting a universal spring IMO. I trust the R&D that was done with these especially because I’m not chasing lap times.
Preload adjustment is hugely overrated due to misleading marketing jargon by manufacturers wanting to justify a 2-piece dual perch coilover construction for cost reasons. I would never choose "adjustable preload" over more suspension travel and droop travel, especially with a linear spring where the rate remains constant regardless of how much it might or might not be "preloaded" by adjusting the spring perch to change ride height. I'd recommend watching the flyin miata video on miata suspension geometry and/or looking at some content from the 949 racing/supermiata guys on the subject if u wish to learn more.
@@TrullsenYT So the “magic combination” is a damper that has enough travel to allow as much bump and droop travel as possible, along with a spring that positions the damper compression amount so that you can have full bump travel (hitting bumpstops) before the tire hits the fender liner, and before the spring is fully compressed and cannot compress any further. If this static position isn’t optimal, then you lose either bump or droop travel. So with two piece dampers on a lowered car the compromise is to allow as much bump travel as possible before bottoming out the damper or the spring, and then sacrifice droop travel as a result. Unless you have a spring and damper design that is truly optimized for the specific application (spring rate, spring length, damper length, damper travel, damping to control spring rate with corner weight applied, etc) there will ALWAYS be some compromises. In general, there is no damper manufacturer who is making custom length dampers to meet the criteria I listed. They have an assortment of damper lengths that they make, and then the “closest match” damper body is used. Then the damper valving is designed with specific corner weight and spring rate in mind. Finally, the damper gets the mounting provisions to be able to install it in the target vehicle. Anyone who thinks that the mainline damper manufacturers are making full custom spring/damper packages for each car they support will be disappointed. That said, Goodwin worked with Koni (Race division) and Progress to develop this package specifically for the NC, so it’s about as custom as you’re going to get, especially at this price point. I currently have MeisterR CRDs, with 6k/5k springs, and am happy with them. However, they now have over 45k miles on them, so if they start wearing out, I will most likely get a set of these Roadstersport coilovers to replace them.
Glad to see you enjoying our RoadsterSport coilovers! One installation note for those following along: to make assembly of the coilover easier you can spin the collars further down the shock shaft, get the top hat installed on the shock, and then you can spin the collars up to our recommended starting position. This way you aren't fighting the spring resistance while trying to get the top nut on. 👍
I agree about Goodwin- I've purchased almost all my mods from them. They've done all the research. I can feel confident.
Nice video on the NC, the best performance to value in a Miata right now. Love those RPF1's on my old Birkin. The best value in a wheel considering weight/strength/cost. I wish they made them in an application for my Caterham.
@@brucewiser9270 agreed!!!
Wow! Thanks for the review of the RoadsterSport NC ClubSport Coilovers. I've been a fan of Good-Win Racing and have bought and installed a few of their goodies for my 2012 PRHT GT 6-speed over the past few years. I'm looking to replace my Progress Springs and Koni yellow adjustable shocks with coilovers and up until now, was leaning towards Ohlins Road and Track DFV Coilovers. I've been looking for a solution with more civilized handling with improved suspension travel over my current setup. It looks like the NC ClubSport Coilovers might be the way to go. Thanks again!
Keep that sweet mx5 content coming, I know at some point you're going to add some HP, that NC chassis was made for 300hp.
@@Mike-jm5wt I agree! I’m sure once I catch up on my other cars, this will see a power increase
Congrats! I’ve had my eye on these. Just waiting to see if 225’s can give enough traction on a boosted NC before purchase. Plus the wide enkei’s look so good!
I selfishly hope you opt for the 2.5 as that's what I'm leaning towards for my NC!
Check out "Colored in light". He did a full build series
That's good to hear! Just wondering how is the track handling difference compared to something with the similar spring rate, like Ohlins and Xida with street setup? I know those are all way more expensive, but just want to have a realistic view of what's the gap with those big boys.
I was able to fit 17x9 ET45 RPF1 with the same tire using Ohlins. A fender roll was required though. The stretch on the 9" wheel is very responsive.
I’m actually doing a 2.5 swap on my nc1 at this moment.. I think I might just go with a set of these coil overs in the future
I currently have the Meister Rs, which I find brutal for the street after a couple of years. I'm debating these Goodwins or the touring Xidas, but those Xidas are much more expensive and may be overkill. So you've given me a lot of food for thought.
Great Miata content! And an old fashioned Done to wrap it up 👍
OK, you have me sold... I have a 2012 (Automatic) that I have been playing with for the past 1-1/2 years but my factory shocks are bottoming out and the coilover option is what I am looking at but unfortunately don't have a mechanic. So I am a little afraid to tackle this job myself. I will be looking for some quality mechanics in my area but if I don't find one by early spring I will tackle this job myself. Wish me luck
We have nearly the same car and same mods lol. Black PRHT, same exhaust, trackdog kit, etc. Love the Clubsport coilovers. I'm also running the RX8 red front/yellow rear swaybars.
Have the same coilover setup on my 2013 Grand Touring - it’s perfect for CT roads. That in combination with the GoodWin Shock tower X brace - handling, NVH and ride “composure” is sublime compared even to a stock NC.
Regarding the stock top hats; the RX-8 definitely uses the large top hats to increase rigidity of the structure while allowing for a lot of travel. I believe the stiffness is why the high end suspension kits use the stock top hats on the RX-8.
Great video...thank you ...currently running an Mx5 mk1 92 280whp ish on miester club sport... NC3 Is deffo my next car... already put Goodwin suspension on my wish list, this video just cements it.... please 🙏 please consider the bbr 300 type kit super charger, this conversion is getting alot of positive reviews this side of the pond, would love to here your spin on this .. 😊
Nice bit of kit! Always thought it's a bit of a shame the RPF1s need to be so wide to get the 'R' face, but that's the price for the lip I guess. If the offset is the same between those two wheels, I wonder if you could get away with running the 235 instead of the 245 on the Enkeis?
Love you guys! But no mention of SuperMiata Xidas? They likely match or beat the GWR's in travel, comfort, weight, and performance. Not hating though, those look like a great option!
That's the king daddy of setups but these might be better for daily use idk
They aren't for the same kind of customer or usage. I bought the XIDAs when they came out. They are amazing on the track and are also much more expensive. They are more than acceptable on the road, but also twice the cost.
@@Chilicharger665 Agreed, after I made this comment I looked up those GWR's and was surprised at the price. They look pretty good for a street setup!
Curious which route you will go for added reliable power for street/track use. FM has to be close to releasing their turbo kit. The kraftworks 12psi kit looks really nice as well and has been around for 10+ years
Yep, Goodwin are the guys to talk to, especially for the NC chassis. When i got my 06 6-sp, I just wanted to improve the ride and handling and get rid of that hideous NC1 stock ride height. Talked to Goodwin, went with their Progress springs and Koni yellows, roadster sport sways, new goodwin bumpstops, some shorter sway endlinks, 17x8;RPF-1s... totally transformed the car ...perfect for street use on New Jersey roads. Worked with goodwin on my prior NA too, same results.
@@lordflyquad4721 they definitely know their stuff!
Those top hats are definitely for maximum travel out of a relatively small shock
Definitely get the max power header. Stock header/cat design is terrible. It really wakes up the car. It will be louder though obviously. Even with the super q which I have as well. Sounds great too. I have a sound clip vid on my channel to reference.
Turbo manifold instead.
Bro that intro 😂💀
Great videos, but the underlying music is so distracting in my opinion. Followed and subscribed.
Do have one question though, 🤔 Did you even consider the 949 Xida nc option, your thoughts please 🙏 😊
How much did they cost when you bought them?
Great choice on coilovers. What front lip is that?
The stock Club lip
@@Chilicharger665 K, thank you
Project Best Miata- make it official
Wait, the red ones are meister r's?? Are those the 750 dollar ones? Should I wait and save up more for the 1600 ones here? Or are the meisters good enough for street? Im shocked at the size difference honestly. I figured they were good enough but now it makes me want to save up more and go with these.
Yeah I've made up my mind. Goodwinracing knows their stuff and I'd rather the new option from them.
Why do you need adjustable spring preload? Weight on the car is not changing, so there should be one preload that works.
Spring preload is mainly a nonconcern as long as you have some, and it's not resulting in coilbind. The height of your car should be set with the spring perch regardless.
I drive my NC all year long I’m from CT too 😅
Hey I’m trying get a response on your triumph car lift video. I want to know how thick the platform is. Everywhere online says 3 or 3.5 inches… can you get that measurement?
@@danielwuertz5773 the ramps are 4” thick
Long time no see
Great intro, haha.
Edit: Misunderstood the comment in video about midpipe and axleback and assumed. My bad!
-I hate to be that guy, but if you still have the stock header you still have the primary restriction from the stock system, which is an abysmally crimped four to one collector before the OEM header cat. Curious to see if you will go for one of Goodwins headers, and if so which one! I have a max power I haven't gotten around to installing yet.-
They've already got a Hooker one installed a few episodes ago. I think he meant if he goes 2.5 then he might upgrade to suit.
@@ftovr2957 Ohhh! That makes sense, I was going off only mentioning the midpipe and axleback. I'll have to check that video out!
What wrenches are those?
Believe they are spanners specifically to tighten these shocks, and come with the kit if I'm not mistaken
Can a coilover vid be sexy.........oh yeah ......
Awsome vid to go with my sandwich.... again....
excellent informative vid Mr chew..
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can i buy your used coilovers :)
so the only way to lower the car more would be to adjust the preload softer? and no dampening? as someone running the CRDs it seems crazy to give up dampening and height adjustment. almost like you took a step backwards. just trying to understand here
@@Stephen-ww6zl there is easy ride height adjustment by lowering the perches. No, there isn’t dampening adjustment but the springs, and shock valving are specifically designed for this chassis so it’s much better than adapting a universal spring IMO. I trust the R&D that was done with these especially because I’m not chasing lap times.
@@TheSlipAngleI think you misspoke here. These GWR Clubsport dampers have rebound adjustable damping.
Preload adjustment is hugely overrated due to misleading marketing jargon by manufacturers wanting to justify a 2-piece dual perch coilover construction for cost reasons. I would never choose "adjustable preload" over more suspension travel and droop travel, especially with a linear spring where the rate remains constant regardless of how much it might or might not be "preloaded" by adjusting the spring perch to change ride height. I'd recommend watching the flyin miata video on miata suspension geometry and/or looking at some content from the 949 racing/supermiata guys on the subject if u wish to learn more.
DAMPING*
@@TrullsenYT So the “magic combination” is a damper that has enough travel to allow as much bump and droop travel as possible, along with a spring that positions the damper compression amount so that you can have full bump travel (hitting bumpstops) before the tire hits the fender liner, and before the spring is fully compressed and cannot compress any further. If this static position isn’t optimal, then you lose either bump or droop travel. So with two piece dampers on a lowered car the compromise is to allow as much bump travel as possible before bottoming out the damper or the spring, and then sacrifice droop travel as a result. Unless you have a spring and damper design that is truly optimized for the specific application (spring rate, spring length, damper length, damper travel, damping to control spring rate with corner weight applied, etc) there will ALWAYS be some compromises. In general, there is no damper manufacturer who is making custom length dampers to meet the criteria I listed. They have an assortment of damper lengths that they make, and then the “closest match” damper body is used. Then the damper valving is designed with specific corner weight and spring rate in mind. Finally, the damper gets the mounting provisions to be able to install it in the target vehicle. Anyone who thinks that the mainline damper manufacturers are making full custom spring/damper packages for each car they support will be disappointed.
That said, Goodwin worked with Koni (Race division) and Progress to develop this package specifically for the NC, so it’s about as custom as you’re going to get, especially at this price point. I currently have MeisterR CRDs, with 6k/5k springs, and am happy with them. However, they now have over 45k miles on them, so if they start wearing out, I will most likely get a set of these Roadstersport coilovers to replace them.