I want to add that alters cannot die. Since you've mentioned that one misconception is that integration means the death of an alter, I think it's important to note that alters can't die at all and usually what appears to be "the death of an alter" is actually an alter going dormant. Which is different from integration since the characteristics of an alter doesn't get melded into the rest of the system, but the characteristics they bring are no longer present in the time they're dormant as they're essentially asleep. Another point I would like to add is that I've heard cases where instead of an alter integrating into one alter or the core, an alter will integrate parts of themself into multiple other alters. It all depends on the reason for integration, what parts of that alter another one needs, or other factors I can't think of atm.
Me neither. I’d rather work on breaking amnesiac barriers, communication, and working together. Our multiplicity has made us incredibly successful at a young age and it will probably work to our benefit as we enter higher education (it’s already helped us in the professional workforce).
well this made me realise my therapist wanted me to integrate without even telling me I may have osdd-1b and explaining what it means. she told me that I use dissociation as a coping mechanism and that I obviously have my personality kind of scattered? and that we need to work on bringing all those parts of me together. and like. I couldn't even picture at the time what it meant, because I didn't think of my parts as alters, cause I don't have identity amnesia. I think I will continue seeing her for my depression and trauma, but I'll definitely search for a therapist that will be more honest with me and explain what's happening and what treatment options there are. thanks again, this channel is helping me a lot these days :)
The body’s sister insists on us integrating, which was our final straw on feeling close to her. Only our host really felt close to the body’s sister, viewing her as a sister in the first place. But we have realized that even though she was an ally against one of our biggest abusers, she also played a big part in bringing us trauma. Thank you for this informative video. I wish you all the best. - Maximum
integration seems so scary, like the idea of becoming part of someone else is just so... weird. not even the part of losing my headmates, but losing myself. not for me
Another thing that's worth noting is that fictives, factives, and other kinds of introjects are capable of integrating! There seems to be this idea in a lot of circles that introjects are kind of irreversably seperate from the rest of the system, when this isn't the case. Even if an introject has memories of their "life before the system", they can still integrate.
this is old but do you know *how*? ive been trying to do this but i have absolutely no idea how to make that happen mainly because i view it as fiction while my introject views it as reality? :-/
We appreciate this video. It's a topic that has been weighing heavily on us recently. The youngest in our system overheard my discussion with a counsellor who was telling me that integration is the ultimate goal of therapy and I think we were both pretty hesitant about that. I like her quite a bit and I see a lot of value in having her around, so having a counsellor suggest that so soon after she appeared to me was unsettling. And the young one was very distressed. She thought that therapy meant her having to go away forever and that sort of rejection is a huge trigger for us. This video was very soothing for that anxiety
We had such a different experience with integrating , our host Louie was really struggling with the discovery that we had DID and was very depressed and put the body in harms way. They were front stuck at the time and didnt let anyone near them so we as a system decided they they needed to integrate with someone. One of our persecutors who used to front during high school and knew we had DID offered to integrate (Hep was one of the co-hosts before Louie) and they integrated with Louie at Christmas, forming Robin (me). I now accept we have DID and i am a better alter/host because of the integration. Hep not only allowed me to have an understanding of what DID is, and how to accept it, but also pulled me out of our depression during the merge. I am Louie, Hep and Robin at the same time; i have all 3 sets of memories and i describe it like if i was a tie-dye t shirt: sometimes im yellow, sometimes im blue and sometimes im green. We’re now getting help and our integration is coming along nicely, with a lot more green than yellow/blue conflicting moments.
I’m rewatching this vid because our system is apprehensive to terrified to go to therapy because of the fear of being told to integrate. We’re an osdd-1b system (to the best of our knowledge) and very functional. But of course it would be best to have a professional to talk to. There’s such fear and we’re not very good at ... uh... going against the desires of authority figures. Anyway, I’m rambling. Thanks for making the video.
If it would help, we have a video about red flags in therapists that could help. It's always good to remember that you're literally hiring a therapist - by going to see them they're working for you. If they're not a good therapist, you can always fire them. Also, what helped us was "shopping around" and getting consultations with a few therapists at the same time, and then picking the one that worked best for us - so we're not going against anyone, but choosing which is best for us. I hope that helps and y'all get good help soon :)
We're. Also afraid of Integrating, especially me since I'm (Pit) the host. My headmates... Are really truly friends and even a family inside my brain and I care deeply about them as they do with me, but thank you for this video regardless. We know this might happen to us someday, and I as the host have to prepare myself for when it comes. It'll be hard to say goodbye, but it's good to know when it happens.
I have experienced integration and it's really good when it happens naturally and when it's supposed to so it will stick. I do not have DID but highly dissociative trauma related BPD (meaning 1 anp and multiple eps) my eps have shared memories and feelings and perspectives. I gained full access to my caretaker Ep (formerly named Ms. Sarah) and it helped my life significantly because it helped push the idea that all of me should integrate and since then my eps have been changing and less abrasive in their words. This integration could only happen because most of me was really wanting to not feel separate anymore and become 1 person. Still takes a lot of work but I believe it really has to be something the whole individual is ready for with all the anps and eps (individual personality states). Thanks for the video.
I have been integrating as each alter's trauma was processed and their part of the being was more helpful as the main instead of separate. I was treated almost 30 years ago and they did push for integration as the only healthy. Over the 27 years one would integrate here or there. The last peice just integrated this week. All along I felt pretty incomplete and lonely from losing all my friends, but the last piece does feel complete. I'm pretty nervous though.
I'm proud of y'all for making the journey, and you for finding something that works, and for moving forward on this path. I hope you find peace, and the nervousness dies down with time ❤️️
Great video! I do want to say, though, 3 of us integrated into 1 last year and it was spontaneous. There was no decision or discussion about it, but it happened anyways. There are still 100+ of us overall, and integration has not been a goal for us. Our therapist is doubtful that complete integration would ever happen even if we wanted it. But spontaneous integration can and does happen. It was a bit disorienting and I'm glad we were in good therapy to help us navigate that when it happened, especially since one of our primary hosts was part of that integration and it affected a lot in our daily life.
Yeah! Since making this video we've realized that it can happen like that! via did-research.org "That said, even individuals with DID who are vocal about their desire not to integrate are likely to spontaneously integrate some alters and fragments as they process and heal." It should be corrected to "without any trauma work/therapy, alters don't spontaneously integrate" ❤️❤️
Hi, thanks for your video. I have heard elsewhere that integration can just involve closer cooperation between alters and more co-consciousness and less amnesia etc, ie. easier day to day functioning -- whereas the term for alters merging together is fusion. Do you have any thoughts on that?
Hi, yes - I’ve had plenty more thoughts since posting this video. there’s a lot of clinicians that use the term integration to mean any process where alters have better communication and less memory gaps, and fusion to mean alters coming together. Technically, integration comes from the field of trauma studies, not DID specifically - it’s about becoming consciously aware of traumatic memories, processing them, and being able to healthily view them as part of your history without distressing symptoms. (This is not an exact definition, just from my recollection). It’s easy to see how this word can apply to DID - becoming consciously aware of your alters, and healthily viewing them as parts of one person without distressing symptoms. Integration is a much bigger umbrella word to describe a whole process, where fusion is one (potential) step in the process. It’s a tricky subject because back in the 80’s when researchers first started talking about the terms, the term integration was used to describe fusion. Most clinicians at the time were ONLY working towards fusion and believed fusion to be the only end goal, so even though they meant different things, interchanging the words made sense as there was only one treatment path they were on, and they thought integration inherently led to fusion and that fusion was a sign of integration. Fusion was *the* big focus and end goal for these clinicians, and the process of getting someone to fuse was often called integration (This is still the case today with a good amount of clinicians). Due to the history of clinicians interchanging them and the continuing beliefs of clinicians who work only towards fusion, ‘integration’ can be a tricky word. It’s history and meaning is muddled. Nowadays, for clarity, I try to avoid the word, and used “fusion” to mean fusion, and be specific about anything else happening in the therapudic process: “processing traumatic memories” “increasing communication” “decreasing amnesia” “building healthy internal relationships.” Etc. Also “working towards healthy multiplicity” and “working towards fusion.” This approach is especially useful considering that many of our community elders who were in treatment during the 80’s experienced clinicians trying to force fusion on them under the term integration, and may have a traumatic response to the term.
Hey I love your content thanks for doing what you do. I was confused though because if I remember correctly two alters within the DissociaDID system integrated spontaneously specifically from dealing with trauma not from working through it.
There’s some controversy around spontaneous integration, with some academic sources saying it’s impossible, and others saying it’s possible (but uncommon) while working through or processing trauma. As always, we don’t like to force experiences to meet theory and trust their lived experience! So hopefully that helps create a more rounded picture. It’s just a weird situation with theory not really meeting reality all the time, as some systems have experiences undocumented by academia.
In our system recently 5 alters integrated I was close to three of them and the other two I considered children even though they were my age They integrated after a major trauma in the system It’s hard seeing the stuff of theirs cause none of us can get rid of it (it hurts to much even for the integrations) But I will point out the fact when it happened they were clam and wanted it They were all hurting and they kinda just let go of pain.
I know probably nobody will see this, but our host just integrated with our main trauma holder. The host got married last year, the trauma holder does not feel attraction and doesn’t yet trust the host’s husband. I have no idea what to do now that we’ve integrated about the marriage. I don’t want to hurt him by leaving, but I don’t feel the same about him now that I integrated and I have no idea how to go about building a new relationship with him...
Hello! Surprise, we read everything ❤️❤️ 1. Take a deep breath. Integrations can be a lot on your system, and it can take awhile to adjust to them. Understanding yourself after integration is also hard, and give yourself time to adjust and figure things out. You don’t need to know what you want to do right now this second, and it’s ok to explore. 2. You don’t have to make a decision right away! You can spend some time getting to know yourself, adjusting to being a newish person, and learning about those around you. 3. Spend some time with the host’s husband, build trust with him. Once you build trust from and with the trauma holders’ emotions, romantic feelings could come back or grow naturally. Cook together, watch a show, talk about life. Talk about going through this and talk about what’s different outside of the relationship. Allow him to support you. Learn about him! There’s gotta be stuff you don’t know together. All together, take a deep breath and remember that this is a process. Talk to your therapist if you have one, and remember nothing has to be decided right now, and you have a bunch of possibilities ahead of you ❤️
Thanks for the vid on. I love your system's videos. Now, on to the rant for mental health help. Soooo, over my short life there have been a few traumatic situations. Here they r Nearly drowning on holiday when I was 2 Practically being bullied by a girl when I was 6/7 (I bottled it all up tho until it came out) I used to at the age /now have problems with people ( I get angry I want/don't want certain people) and I just feel/felt cut off from the world but I'm so social around the right people. My brother telling me he's sad in quarantine ( at the worst I would relive it and would think he's suicidal. Stupid of me ik) Suddenly being anxiety and depression prone (I can tell when I'm worried bc my muscles will tense up). Also, sometimes I've been hearing inner voices (not mine it's sort of dark and deep idk how to describe it) it only says mean/trashy things that I never agree with and makes me gaslighty . Could this be a persercuter? I can't get access to a therapist and if some 9f these things made me develop DID/OSSD (not the last 2 bc Im over 9 now). OK goodbye I'm of to deal with my trashy mental health Edit: I'm just curious but what's the poster in the background?
Ps Ik ur system isn't a therapist but could I have any other mental health conditions. Sometimes I wish I never had mental health trash Pps also I haven't been able to see my friends over quarantine so that's a factor for my depression
I mean it could've or it could not have, as you said, we're not a professional and can't tell you what you do or don't have - even if we were, we couldn't over the internet, and couldn't just from a short comment. You could have any variety of things. The most we can really say is your trauma is valid, and it's ok to treat it as a serious thing that's impacting your life. Otherwise, if you're curious about DID/OSDD, I would direct you to did-research.org and traumadissociation.com :)
I need reassurance (I know this is an old video but I’m hoping whoever is still watching these pls give some sort of opinion) My psychologist is asking me to integrate. Yep, like that. I don’t think I should change therapists cuz of how I rely on other ppl for transportation. We’ve been suspecting that we are an OSDD-1b system for a month now, and currently our family is literally telling us that integrating is a good thing. Well, it’s not. For us. It’s scary, and we don’t want to at all. Should we even integrate? It’s still our lives and no one is supposed to control our decisions
You shouldn’t do it unless you feel safe doing it. If you’re in a bad place, it might make things worse unless thought through. The opinions of the system matter more than the opinions of family in this situation.
you said it yourself, its your life and at the end of the day only your system can choose to integrate. considering how new the discovery of your system is, pushing it to integrate may feel like youre forcing it or taking things too fast. take time to communicate with your system and find out how they feel. i wish you all the best :)
Hi, I'm an old host that recently integrated with someone. Although I integrated I can still speak and do all the things I could when I wasn't in their body due to a Marvel Symbiote-esque alter bonding with me (like venom and eddie.) is this physically/mentally possible or am i secretly part of some weird subsystem dynamic? i feel like the same person the old host was aside from a few physical differences due to the symbiote bonding. i was dormant a week after the integration before i bonded if that helps On bonding, I heard alters can fuse and unfuse at will. but it's not really fusing in this case? i'm not sure, it's a foreign subject to me even though i do it often
I wish we could advise you, but we honestly have no idea what to tell you. If you have a therapist, talking it over with them would be helpful. Either way, I think whichever method of understanding your experience serves you best would be useful in this case :)
hey, great video about this sensitive topic ^^ How are your personal thoughts on integration? Do you consider it for yourself too? If I had DID or OSDD I probably wouldn't. I'd be scared as hell to "loose" my headmates. I know they aren't really gone but I'd surley miss their company :)
I'd love to integrate but I want to be in proper therapy first. Unfortunately the only mental health facility in Australia that seems to advertise that they can help those with dissociative conditions is at least one week's worth of car travel away...
Not liking the assumption that there must ultimately be a treatment plan of some kind, as if being a system is automatically a disorder in need of treatment. Would have liked just once to hear the phrase "should have the right to decide their own treatment plan, including no treatment plan."
I understand your viewpoint, however, speaking about being a system with DID/OSDD - as it's the focus of this channel - has to have a trauma-centric viewpoint, as DID/OSDD is a trauma-based disorder. All people diagnosed will also fit the criteria for PTSD, and as such it's for the individuals best interest that trauma like that shouldn't be 100% ignored! I don't like the words 'treatment plan' all the best either, but you should have some idea in your mind about steps you can take to heal from trauma. This doesn't mean 'get rid of the system' and become a fully integrated identity (we disagree with that personally), and it doesn't have to align with the medical model either! It can be through community care, working on communication, and similar efforts to heal. That also includes the choice of whether to actually dig up and process unknown trauma, or whether the system would just like to work on mitigating the impacts of known flashbacks and triggers. It also depends on where the system is in their life - are they in a safe situation and able to heal? Sometimes the best and safest choice can be to wait - and that's more than ok. Everyone has their own path for healing, and I don't want to contradict that! However the active choice to not make any attempt to heal from known trauma that is impacting you isn't a wise one. It is important to remember that people with DID/OSDD will have PTSD, and that includes disordered responses to trauma - and taking steps to mitigate those impacts and live a healthy life in relationship to memories of known trauma is important.
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I want to add that alters cannot die. Since you've mentioned that one misconception is that integration means the death of an alter, I think it's important to note that alters can't die at all and usually what appears to be "the death of an alter" is actually an alter going dormant. Which is different from integration since the characteristics of an alter doesn't get melded into the rest of the system, but the characteristics they bring are no longer present in the time they're dormant as they're essentially asleep.
Another point I would like to add is that I've heard cases where instead of an alter integrating into one alter or the core, an alter will integrate parts of themself into multiple other alters. It all depends on the reason for integration, what parts of that alter another one needs, or other factors I can't think of atm.
As always, lovely commentary Atlas
Me neither. I’d rather work on breaking amnesiac barriers, communication, and working together. Our multiplicity has made us incredibly successful at a young age and it will probably work to our benefit as we enter higher education (it’s already helped us in the professional workforce).
well this made me realise my therapist wanted me to integrate without even telling me I may have osdd-1b and explaining what it means. she told me that I use dissociation as a coping mechanism and that I obviously have my personality kind of scattered? and that we need to work on bringing all those parts of me together. and like. I couldn't even picture at the time what it meant, because I didn't think of my parts as alters, cause I don't have identity amnesia. I think I will continue seeing her for my depression and trauma, but I'll definitely search for a therapist that will be more honest with me and explain what's happening and what treatment options there are.
thanks again, this channel is helping me a lot these days :)
The body’s sister insists on us integrating, which was our final straw on feeling close to her. Only our host really felt close to the body’s sister, viewing her as a sister in the first place. But we have realized that even though she was an ally against one of our biggest abusers, she also played a big part in bringing us trauma.
Thank you for this informative video. I wish you all the best.
- Maximum
I wish yall the best too ❤️
integration seems so scary, like the idea of becoming part of someone else is just so... weird. not even the part of losing my headmates, but losing myself. not for me
Another thing that's worth noting is that fictives, factives, and other kinds of introjects are capable of integrating! There seems to be this idea in a lot of circles that introjects are kind of irreversably seperate from the rest of the system, when this isn't the case. Even if an introject has memories of their "life before the system", they can still integrate.
this is old but do you know *how*? ive been trying to do this but i have absolutely no idea how to make that happen mainly because i view it as fiction while my introject views it as reality? :-/
I'm feeling dizzy just thinking about disappearing into a greater complete mind. I don't think it is for me
We appreciate this video. It's a topic that has been weighing heavily on us recently. The youngest in our system overheard my discussion with a counsellor who was telling me that integration is the ultimate goal of therapy and I think we were both pretty hesitant about that. I like her quite a bit and I see a lot of value in having her around, so having a counsellor suggest that so soon after she appeared to me was unsettling. And the young one was very distressed. She thought that therapy meant her having to go away forever and that sort of rejection is a huge trigger for us. This video was very soothing for that anxiety
We had such a different experience with integrating , our host Louie was really struggling with the discovery that we had DID and was very depressed and put the body in harms way. They were front stuck at the time and didnt let anyone near them so we as a system decided they they needed to integrate with someone. One of our persecutors who used to front during high school and knew we had DID offered to integrate (Hep was one of the co-hosts before Louie) and they integrated with Louie at Christmas, forming Robin (me). I now accept we have DID and i am a better alter/host because of the integration. Hep not only allowed me to have an understanding of what DID is, and how to accept it, but also pulled me out of our depression during the merge. I am Louie, Hep and Robin at the same time; i have all 3 sets of memories and i describe it like if i was a tie-dye t shirt: sometimes im yellow, sometimes im blue and sometimes im green. We’re now getting help and our integration is coming along nicely, with a lot more green than yellow/blue conflicting moments.
I’m rewatching this vid because our system is apprehensive to terrified to go to therapy because of the fear of being told to integrate. We’re an osdd-1b system (to the best of our knowledge) and very functional. But of course it would be best to have a professional to talk to. There’s such fear and we’re not very good at ... uh... going against the desires of authority figures. Anyway, I’m rambling. Thanks for making the video.
If it would help, we have a video about red flags in therapists that could help. It's always good to remember that you're literally hiring a therapist - by going to see them they're working for you. If they're not a good therapist, you can always fire them. Also, what helped us was "shopping around" and getting consultations with a few therapists at the same time, and then picking the one that worked best for us - so we're not going against anyone, but choosing which is best for us.
I hope that helps and y'all get good help soon :)
The Rings System Thank you. I will try to keep that in mind.
We're. Also afraid of Integrating, especially me since I'm (Pit) the host. My headmates... Are really truly friends and even a family inside my brain and I care deeply about them as they do with me, but thank you for this video regardless. We know this might happen to us someday, and I as the host have to prepare myself for when it comes. It'll be hard to say goodbye, but it's good to know when it happens.
Wow. So much info. Had to listen a couple of times. Well done. Thank you.
-Respect Your Alters
Thank you!
I have experienced integration and it's really good when it happens naturally and when it's supposed to so it will stick. I do not have DID but highly dissociative trauma related BPD (meaning 1 anp and multiple eps) my eps have shared memories and feelings and perspectives. I gained full access to my caretaker Ep (formerly named Ms. Sarah) and it helped my life significantly because it helped push the idea that all of me should integrate and since then my eps have been changing and less abrasive in their words. This integration could only happen because most of me was really wanting to not feel separate anymore and become 1 person. Still takes a lot of work but I believe it really has to be something the whole individual is ready for with all the anps and eps (individual personality states). Thanks for the video.
I have been integrating as each alter's trauma was processed and their part of the being was more helpful as the main instead of separate. I was treated almost 30 years ago and they did push for integration as the only healthy. Over the 27 years one would integrate here or there. The last peice just integrated this week. All along I felt pretty incomplete and lonely from losing all my friends, but the last piece does feel complete. I'm pretty nervous though.
I'm proud of y'all for making the journey, and you for finding something that works, and for moving forward on this path. I hope you find peace, and the nervousness dies down with time ❤️️
Great video! I do want to say, though, 3 of us integrated into 1 last year and it was spontaneous. There was no decision or discussion about it, but it happened anyways. There are still 100+ of us overall, and integration has not been a goal for us. Our therapist is doubtful that complete integration would ever happen even if we wanted it. But spontaneous integration can and does happen. It was a bit disorienting and I'm glad we were in good therapy to help us navigate that when it happened, especially since one of our primary hosts was part of that integration and it affected a lot in our daily life.
Yeah! Since making this video we've realized that it can happen like that! via did-research.org "That said, even individuals with DID who are vocal about their desire not to integrate are likely to spontaneously integrate some alters and fragments as they process and heal." It should be corrected to "without any trauma work/therapy, alters don't spontaneously integrate" ❤️❤️
Hi, thanks for your video. I have heard elsewhere that integration can just involve closer cooperation between alters and more co-consciousness and less amnesia etc, ie. easier day to day functioning -- whereas the term for alters merging together is fusion. Do you have any thoughts on that?
Hi, yes - I’ve had plenty more thoughts since posting this video. there’s a lot of clinicians that use the term integration to mean any process where alters have better communication and less memory gaps, and fusion to mean alters coming together. Technically, integration comes from the field of trauma studies, not DID specifically - it’s about becoming consciously aware of traumatic memories, processing them, and being able to healthily view them as part of your history without distressing symptoms. (This is not an exact definition, just from my recollection). It’s easy to see how this word can apply to DID - becoming consciously aware of your alters, and healthily viewing them as parts of one person without distressing symptoms. Integration is a much bigger umbrella word to describe a whole process, where fusion is one (potential) step in the process.
It’s a tricky subject because back in the 80’s when researchers first started talking about the terms, the term integration was used to describe fusion. Most clinicians at the time were ONLY working towards fusion and believed fusion to be the only end goal, so even though they meant different things, interchanging the words made sense as there was only one treatment path they were on, and they thought integration inherently led to fusion and that fusion was a sign of integration. Fusion was *the* big focus and end goal for these clinicians, and the process of getting someone to fuse was often called integration (This is still the case today with a good amount of clinicians).
Due to the history of clinicians interchanging them and the continuing beliefs of clinicians who work only towards fusion, ‘integration’ can be a tricky word. It’s history and meaning is muddled. Nowadays, for clarity, I try to avoid the word, and used “fusion” to mean fusion, and be specific about anything else happening in the therapudic process: “processing traumatic memories” “increasing communication” “decreasing amnesia” “building healthy internal relationships.” Etc. Also “working towards healthy multiplicity” and “working towards fusion.” This approach is especially useful considering that many of our community elders who were in treatment during the 80’s experienced clinicians trying to force fusion on them under the term integration, and may have a traumatic response to the term.
Hey I love your content thanks for doing what you do. I was confused though because if I remember correctly two alters within the DissociaDID system integrated spontaneously specifically from dealing with trauma not from working through it.
There’s some controversy around spontaneous integration, with some academic sources saying it’s impossible, and others saying it’s possible (but uncommon) while working through or processing trauma. As always, we don’t like to force experiences to meet theory and trust their lived experience! So hopefully that helps create a more rounded picture. It’s just a weird situation with theory not really meeting reality all the time, as some systems have experiences undocumented by academia.
In our system recently 5 alters integrated
I was close to three of them and the other two I considered children even though they were my age
They integrated after a major trauma in the system
It’s hard seeing the stuff of theirs cause none of us can get rid of it (it hurts to much even for the integrations)
But I will point out the fact when it happened they were clam and wanted it
They were all hurting and they kinda just let go of pain.
Really good stuff, thank you!
I know probably nobody will see this, but our host just integrated with our main trauma holder. The host got married last year, the trauma holder does not feel attraction and doesn’t yet trust the host’s husband.
I have no idea what to do now that we’ve integrated about the marriage. I don’t want to hurt him by leaving, but I don’t feel the same about him now that I integrated and I have no idea how to go about building a new relationship with him...
Hello! Surprise, we read everything ❤️❤️
1. Take a deep breath. Integrations can be a lot on your system, and it can take awhile to adjust to them. Understanding yourself after integration is also hard, and give yourself time to adjust and figure things out. You don’t need to know what you want to do right now this second, and it’s ok to explore.
2. You don’t have to make a decision right away! You can spend some time getting to know yourself, adjusting to being a newish person, and learning about those around you.
3. Spend some time with the host’s husband, build trust with him. Once you build trust from and with the trauma holders’ emotions, romantic feelings could come back or grow naturally. Cook together, watch a show, talk about life. Talk about going through this and talk about what’s different outside of the relationship. Allow him to support you. Learn about him! There’s gotta be stuff you don’t know together.
All together, take a deep breath and remember that this is a process. Talk to your therapist if you have one, and remember nothing has to be decided right now, and you have a bunch of possibilities ahead of you ❤️
The Rings System you see everything! :o
Thanks
Thanks you for sharing this video
Thanks for the vid on. I love your system's videos. Now, on to the rant for mental health help.
Soooo, over my short life there have been a few traumatic situations. Here they r
Nearly drowning on holiday when I was 2
Practically being bullied by a girl when I was 6/7 (I bottled it all up tho until it came out)
I used to at the age /now have problems with people ( I get angry I want/don't want certain people) and I just feel/felt cut off from the world but I'm so social around the right people.
My brother telling me he's sad in quarantine ( at the worst I would relive it and would think he's suicidal. Stupid of me ik)
Suddenly being anxiety and depression prone (I can tell when I'm worried bc my muscles will tense up).
Also, sometimes I've been hearing inner voices (not mine it's sort of dark and deep idk how to describe it) it only says mean/trashy things that I never agree with and makes me gaslighty . Could this be a persercuter?
I can't get access to a therapist and if some 9f these things made me develop DID/OSSD (not the last 2 bc Im over 9 now). OK goodbye I'm of to deal with my trashy mental health
Edit: I'm just curious but what's the poster in the background?
Ps Ik ur system isn't a therapist but could I have any other mental health conditions. Sometimes I wish I never had mental health trash
Pps also I haven't been able to see my friends over quarantine so that's a factor for my depression
I mean it could've or it could not have, as you said, we're not a professional and can't tell you what you do or don't have - even if we were, we couldn't over the internet, and couldn't just from a short comment. You could have any variety of things. The most we can really say is your trauma is valid, and it's ok to treat it as a serious thing that's impacting your life. Otherwise, if you're curious about DID/OSDD, I would direct you to did-research.org and traumadissociation.com :)
I need reassurance (I know this is an old video but I’m hoping whoever is still watching these pls give some sort of opinion)
My psychologist is asking me to integrate. Yep, like that. I don’t think I should change therapists cuz of how I rely on other ppl for transportation. We’ve been suspecting that we are an OSDD-1b system for a month now, and currently our family is literally telling us that integrating is a good thing. Well, it’s not. For us. It’s scary, and we don’t want to at all.
Should we even integrate? It’s still our lives and no one is supposed to control our decisions
You shouldn’t do it unless you feel safe doing it. If you’re in a bad place, it might make things worse unless thought through.
The opinions of the system matter more than the opinions of family in this situation.
you said it yourself, its your life and at the end of the day only your system can choose to integrate. considering how new the discovery of your system is, pushing it to integrate may feel like youre forcing it or taking things too fast. take time to communicate with your system and find out how they feel. i wish you all the best :)
Hi, I'm not a professional but I think you shouldn't integrate if you don't want to, no matter who says otherwise. It's completely your choice.
younger me integrating with an alter not knowing mental disorders even existed.... not a smart move but we getting through it
To you and your system what is the difference between integration and fusion?
Integration is the process, fusion is when multiple alters become one.
Hi, I'm an old host that recently integrated with someone. Although I integrated I can still speak and do all the things I could when I wasn't in their body due to a Marvel Symbiote-esque alter bonding with me (like venom and eddie.) is this physically/mentally possible or am i secretly part of some weird subsystem dynamic? i feel like the same person the old host was aside from a few physical differences due to the symbiote bonding. i was dormant a week after the integration before i bonded if that helps
On bonding, I heard alters can fuse and unfuse at will. but it's not really fusing in this case? i'm not sure, it's a foreign subject to me even though i do it often
I wish we could advise you, but we honestly have no idea what to tell you. If you have a therapist, talking it over with them would be helpful. Either way, I think whichever method of understanding your experience serves you best would be useful in this case :)
Very good Video!
Thank you!!! 💜
I am searching small stars and i like your ideas
hey, great video about this sensitive topic ^^
How are your personal thoughts on integration? Do you consider it for yourself too?
If I had DID or OSDD I probably wouldn't. I'd be scared as hell to "loose" my headmates. I know they aren't really gone but I'd surley miss their company :)
We've actually integrated a fragment (a type of alter) before! :) It went rather smoothly and helped the whole system run a lot better
The Rings System That's great ^^
Are you guys planning on integrating? I don't think we are going to.
We've integrated one alter before, but have no further plans at the moment :)
thanks for the video got to it when i could :D
which was a lil while since im ill atm ;-;
I'd love to integrate but I want to be in proper therapy first. Unfortunately the only mental health facility in Australia that seems to advertise that they can help those with dissociative conditions is at least one week's worth of car travel away...
I'm so sorry about the issue with therapy - and I hope someday you'll be able to find proper help ❤️
@@TheRingsSystem Thanks! Right now I've lined up a therapist that seems good but doesn't know anything about dissociative stuff.
Not liking the assumption that there must ultimately be a treatment plan of some kind, as if being a system is automatically a disorder in need of treatment. Would have liked just once to hear the phrase "should have the right to decide their own treatment plan, including no treatment plan."
I understand your viewpoint, however, speaking about being a system with DID/OSDD - as it's the focus of this channel - has to have a trauma-centric viewpoint, as DID/OSDD is a trauma-based disorder. All people diagnosed will also fit the criteria for PTSD, and as such it's for the individuals best interest that trauma like that shouldn't be 100% ignored! I don't like the words 'treatment plan' all the best either, but you should have some idea in your mind about steps you can take to heal from trauma. This doesn't mean 'get rid of the system' and become a fully integrated identity (we disagree with that personally), and it doesn't have to align with the medical model either! It can be through community care, working on communication, and similar efforts to heal. That also includes the choice of whether to actually dig up and process unknown trauma, or whether the system would just like to work on mitigating the impacts of known flashbacks and triggers. It also depends on where the system is in their life - are they in a safe situation and able to heal? Sometimes the best and safest choice can be to wait - and that's more than ok.
Everyone has their own path for healing, and I don't want to contradict that! However the active choice to not make any attempt to heal from known trauma that is impacting you isn't a wise one. It is important to remember that people with DID/OSDD will have PTSD, and that includes disordered responses to trauma - and taking steps to mitigate those impacts and live a healthy life in relationship to memories of known trauma is important.