You 2 really should do this.. not only would it make an entertaining video to watch. Just think of the extra earning opportunity that could bring you. You guys go to a meeting and you can sell pizzas hot dog probably hamburgers too and coffee. Like Mobile mini snack hut vendors.😂😂😂😂
I own 30ish crawlers, and the SCX6 is easily my favorite for hiking with. It simply goes places nothing else will and it’s not even close. I think the price point for entry is prohibitive, but kinda like an Xmaxx it ruins you for everything else once you have it.
This is why I plan to get one. My kids and I use TRX4s to hike with it TN and north AL mountains are a challenge and fun but some there are many trails that they just can't do due to size
@jasonbecker4997 I had the same excuse when I bought my jeep. Other than "to tow the losi 1/5 gasser" yet they both have mainly been sitting on shelves😂
1/5 scale range is our preference. 8th scale if it is a competition. !/10 scale if it is cool or fun. Smaller scale doesn't do much for me. SCX6 Capra would work, very versatile and easy to customize.
I stayed away from large scale vehicles forever, but I purchased a home on 3 acres of wilderness and finally it now makes sense to purchase a large scale vehicle. I currently have three large scale vehicles, and the SCX6 honcho, which will never have to be transported now that I have all the room in the world to drive it. I still think the sweet spot is 1/10 scale. I do have a small collection of 1/18 and 1/24 and they are cool but they don’t excite me much.
I love my SCX6, but I don't know of anyone else who has one around me, certainly no-one in the group I'm part of, so I'm mostly using my 10th scales. I also love my 6th scale Jetstream, and there's a couple of those around. What I need next is a 1/6 boat trailer to go between them.
@@nofoxrc exactly also it would open up for axle swaps in comp style in turn would open up offset wheels chassis designed around class 3 style rear steer rigs and things of that sort
I take my Scx6 out every time. I think the large scale stuff definitely strong but it’s not cheap to get into so there’s that big barrier keeping it for getting as big as 1/10 I got one have a few 1/6 rigs and super stoked to buy the ucfab moon buggy chassis
I love my 6, once it's properly setup, it's an amazing trail machine, and you can cover a lot of miles. But I also call it a "100 buck truck" because almost everything is 100 bucks (or more) tires, foams, etc. Plus all the money you have to dump into it just to get it to steer properly. I have exactly ONE micro, that's it. I'm into scale, so basically the more mass= more scale. The tiny stuff just doesn't cut it. The thing about this hobby is trends tend to stay around for maybe a year or so, then dies out. (I don't see you guys having a lot of drag events anymore) Hell, I don't know, the next thing might be Rallye cars? Who knows
I think we have a new SCX6 on the way. Hopefully, a 1/6 th Capra. Considering it popularity i think that would be what the go for. I agree 10th scale is king. With winter on the way, mini and micro will be trending. Indoor comps are great this time of year. I do have multiple 10th scale builds for this winter as well. Hopefully we get some killer RC releases before Christmas to add to the collection.
Being newish to the hobby, I sincerely hope large scale isn't going away. I've not purchased a large scale bc it seems we're due something new...and my luck would be as soon as I purchase scx6, bam!! VP releases some badass 1/6 MACHINE and I've blown my powder already...😂
👍 thank you for the scale news update. My opinion is; minis are fun if there is a comp. Same principles, smaller scale. Also if you’re camping, they’re compact. “Fits in a glove box”. You can have fun on a typical landscape rock at a park or where ever. You can crawl them inside and do indoor comps during the winter time, If you live in a climate that snows”. They do take up a little less space to store them. With the support of the aftermarket you can make them very capable. This being said. I’m with you. I still love the 1/10 scale crawlers, but I’ll also hold onto my minis.
I love large scale stuff, have a few and their a blast to drive. That said they are expensive to buy, run, need a lot of space to run/store. I think economic realities mean yeah, it’s probably going to be curtains for some of them… I can see 8th scale being the new large scale for some vehicles, I like my 8th and 10th scale stuff the most. Sorry I just never got into the smaller than 1:10 scale stuff. I do not like working on them, reduced scale details, really any of it. I bought a few ran them a bit then sold or gave to my nephew…
The SCX6 buy in was too big for what you got, an enlarged 10.2 with a ton of heft. My friends that have them really like them though. There is a market, many of us want a 1/6 Capra, but the cost eliminates most first time or casual purchases.
I love my 6. What i don't like is driving a 1/10 immediately after. They feel like 24s lol😅 the driving experience of a 6 is just so different in a good way.
An SCX6 Honcho has been on my wish list since it was announced, but I haven’t pulled the trigger, for all the reasons Josh mentioned. Also, I’ve never seen a custom SCX6 build so it seems like a buy-and-drive sort of platform, while I equally enjoy driving and building. I enjoy my micros (six so far) and am finding myself spending more time building and driving them. Went on a family/group vacation to the mountains this week and took two SXC24s to do a bit of driving (trucks, radios, batteries, and chargers all fit in a small plastic tub which was easy to stuff in our truck). I’m not trailing with micros though, so 1/10 scale is still my favourite for going for a long drive or when I can be serious on the rocks for some time.
I think the 1/6 class does have a place with RC crawler enthusiasts, but I know Horizon doesn't like to deal in slow sellers. Just look at how they blow out slow selling models and then turn their backs on them for long term product support. I agree with you about 1/10 being the sweet spot. I have several TRX4Ms, an MST CMX, a Tamiya CC02, and a CR12, and they are all fun in their own way. But 1/10 just seems to be custom made to excel on existing and unprepared terrain. It's also great how vast the aftermarket is for 1/10. Definitely my go to size.
Super super weird that this video came out today, I just bought an scx6 over the weekend for 10th scale price I might add. But I do see the lack of support behind them, they are huge and cumbersome but they also open up an entire new world of realism, they are stupid capable out of the box as well.
@@Ziggy8750I've been towing over 100 pounds with mine for through dozens of batteries, over all sorts of hills and terrain for nearly 2 years now. Aside from the requisite steering upgrades It's bone stock. I bought it expecting to have to replace and upgrade axles, transmission, esc, and more. I almost bought all that stuff with it because I'd heard they were issues. Glad I didn't waste money on them now. It could strip every gear in it tomorrow and owe me nothing. It's now than paid for itself already but it's showing no signs of any problems. As long as you're not sitting on it towing cars around those stock internals can take a lot.
I'd honestly like to see more 1/6th scale trucks. Would really like to see vanquish come out with scx6 parts to make the scx6 more bulletproof. God bless and keep wheeling 🙏
I really hope the 1/6 scale stuff survives I love it! I don’t like the mini stuff there’s way too much to the point where 1/10 scale is being out-shadowed due to 4 minis coming out every week. I feel like if they brought out a buggy style scx6 that is 20 pounds and not 30 pounds more people would be into that. But another jeep it will be if they do😂
I don’t own an SCX6 or similar truck but I definitely want one. Larger always seems to drive and move more like a full scale truck and can handle obstacles in a full scale world better, like branches in particular. The initial purchase cost is what’s holding me back, but I’m relatively new to RC as an adult with income so I’ve bought about $1,400 worth of trucks in the last 6 months. So I could have but there are a lot of less expensive trucks I want also.
I recently acquired an FMS Willys Jeep (1/6th scale) and while it doesn't rival the SCX6 in size, as a "scale jeep" with a "barbie" size driver, I do think it fits the mold of scale better than the SCX10 CJ7 Jeep does. As for Minis, I do like my SCX24, which has some tasteful mods, and leans more comp than scale.. but my preference is definitely the 10th scale.
The problem I see with the 1/6 scale is you’d have to make a separate “course” for such a big rig. As oppose to the smaller scale you could actually get away with and be challenged by a course you already have set up. I hate the small stuff myself but have been tempted by the larger axial rigs because the bigger it gets the more “real” it feels anyway great video as usual 👍
Axial NEEDS to give us the SCX-6 that we’ve all been waiting for, the UMG-6! A large scale Unimog would be so awesome. The UMG-10 was the best iteration of the 10-2 in my humble opinion, and a 6th scale Mog with all of the modern updates WITH portal versions of the SCX-6 axles would be icing on the cake, finally portal axles on a model that really needs them, cmon Axial…….🤞🏼
8th scale is about as large as I like to drive. Not too heavy and still carry-able. I am very interested in the new Hobbywing Quicrun 8ightfor my custom heavy 6x6 (double rear dually axles) and possibly for my Redcat Marksman 8th scale(this truck probably doesn't need it but what heck). The small stuff is neat for back yard courses but I feel they are too fragile for my usage.
For a lot of the same reasons I find the 1/10th scale ideal, I have two SCX24s I spent way too much upgrading like everyone else, and I haven't had either out for a crawl in over a year. The 2 RYFTs I have are plenty large enough for me, I can't imagine where I could even take something 1/6th scale to crawl, 1/10th is enough of a challenge around here. I spent most of the summer rotating through my collection, getting more familiar with each, and really enjoying the differences, limitations, and capabilities of each one.
MJX is a legit company. I have their Citroen C3 rally car, and it's a blast. Super quick, well built and looks amazing. They also have several other models, mostly basher style ones. This seem to be their first go at a crawler-ish rig, and specs look pretty decent. So far their cars have all been nice quality. Cheap, fast and fun.
Got an scx6 with a Currie Hammer Rey body on it and I love it. But, I don't trail it cos it's a heavy m'fer 😂 Mini crawlers do little for me, I prefer 1/10. The Optic H10 is a pretty good all-rounder👌
Well, this 25 min video cost me another $250 bones, those Horizon discounts are too good to pass up! Thanks Josh, I'm looking to redecorate my Dogs vacant house, since that's sure to be my new address soon
Great upload my man, I really like your videos. Love the format, super informative yet super fun at the same time. You've got a great voice too! This is what I put on when I'm working on something in the garage and it's really fun and chill and relaxing. Hope you keep going with this, you're good at it. Cheers dude!
Large scale isn't dead, it's just being ignored. We've had several years to buy the current SCX6. Most of us don't want more than 1 of them. I betcha if they'd build more we'd do our part. I've been begging for a 5th scale 4x4 electric basher buggy for years but nobody wants to go first. They'd rather compete in existing markets than lead in a new one.
I've got a Red Cat Marksman 8, it's a little bigger than a 10th scale enough to take old lines and made new challenges ... Did some cross reference for parts availability and DNA ( that's when it gets interesting)....
Before I get into my answer to the "David vs Goliath" question, I would like to point out that, while SCX6 sales might not be going very well, sales of the Rlaarlo MK-07 (Rlaarlo's 1/7 scale take on the SCX6) seem to be doing fairly well. Granted, parts availability is somewhat more limited, and there's almost no support from 3rd-party companies (the same can be said about almost all Rlaarlo RCs)...but, the vehicle, replacement parts, and upgrade parts, all cost considerably less than they do for the SCX6. So, maybe that has someone to with with why MK-07 sales are doing fairly well. Getting to the "David vs Goliath" question, I can't really answer in regards to crawlers...but, in regards to RC as a whole, I think both have their merits. For example, my smallest vehicles are my Mini-Z & other 1/28 scale RCs (most of which I built from chassis kits), while my largest is a 1/5 scale Kraken RC VESLA.5 C1E SBK (the kit version of the VESLA.5). Honestly, I enjoy both. Large scale might cost more, but is easier to work on...small scale can be difficult to work on, but costs are considerably less. Best of all, both have a considerable number of upgrade parts available, some from the manufacturers, others from 3rd-party companies. Whether bashers, crawlers, or race vehicles, I believe there's room for both ends of the scale spectrum.
I have all them from the scx24 up to the scx6. I absolutely love driving my 6, but man of it decides to not drive anymore it sucks. Also all upgrades are so much money. On the flip side, I have a $500 fx118 that I use for comps. I love mini comps because they are inside and can be held in the snowy NY winters. I love building them, but don't drive them much outside of comps. 1/10 is definitely the go to trail size
The problem with the SCX6 and large scale RC in general you need somewhere big enough to run it especially with fast large scale RC’s like the infraction, XMaxx etc vs I’ve taken my SCx24 to work to mess with during break and it literally fits in my lunch bag . I’ve found random stuff to crawl it on while stuck inside the house too just feels like more opportunity to mess with the 1/18 & 1/24 rigs vs even 1/10 scale ones
Cost is the only thing keeping me from an SCX6. The current deal almost does it; if my income was the same as it was two years ago I’d probably have one.
CrossRC Emo X owners rejoice! A Fusion suitable for our rigs is coming! Also Fusions run great in some lighter bashers too with the right gearing. This might be useful elsewhere.
I love my SCX6, but more scale body options would be awesome; they are big enough to do some awesome details on. Small scale (1/24, 1/18) trucks are like skittles, you can't have just one and they are cheap enough that it doesn't hurt. I'm hoping we start getting scale hard bodies that rival static plastic model kits (and come as such) for the small scales.
I’d like to see more large scale crawler options. This time of year with leaves covering the trails and eventually snow, it’s difficult to run 1/10. The scx6 is more fun in bad conditions.
I have 4 1/8 scale trail rigs and they are great. i just put a Hobbywing Axe R3 4274 in my Yikong. I'd love to get the Fusion in my other to compare. I have 2 Traction Hobby rigs as well that are tons of fun as well.
I don't think large scale is struggling but won't go completely away. It would do better if another big company got into it as well. Looking at you Traxxas...
The lack of options is why it struggles. You either have a SCX6 or want one of you're into large scale. I've got every big brand large scale rig made currently except a XRT (don't want it). If there was another large scale crawler made we'd buy it also. I'm really hoping redcat is gonna drop a large scale straight axle monster truck on us soon.
That RedCat MT-18 is closer to the size of the FMS Smasher which is 1/24 scale... I've seen a video of a size comparison with the Mini LMT and the Traxxas TRX4M, and the RedCat is TINY
I want a scx6 but I don’t want to have to drive so far each time just to find a place to run it. I’m in the OC right by CDM aka Pirates Cove and it’s too big for there and all the places near by. I’ll probably still get one in the future though because I don’t have self control on my spending lol. But the 1/10’s here are perfect and I have some minis just to mix it up
I love the scx6, but most of the bodies proline has made for that thing has just been god awful. Especially the K10. They couldn’t have missed the mark more on that body. They have nice plans, but very poor execution
I started out with an SCX24, then a A18, then MN82, and I got an ascent fusion. I like the big scale stuff, it's just so flipping expensive. If they were 20-25% cheaper, I feel like they'd be more accessible. I love the local micro comps through TGH, I typically run there, and run my 10th when I go out to the rocks.
I love the idea of 1/6th scale, they appear to drive more realistically with less bouncing around and more weight. The price is a big barrier though, $1500CAD for a truck + upgrades is a lot.
I have a SCX6 that I really do enjoy but does not get used a lot, I go for 1/10 scale rigs when running trails. I think the big scale rigs are too high of price point to gain large popularity. In Canada the SCX6 is close to $1500, that’s a pretty big investment. Small scale opens the door to a larger market.
The 6 scale stuff honestly seems pretty rad. But it’s so expensive to build out. If you don’t have plenty of good terrain to run it on it’s hard to justify. I thought about it. But I figured around 3 grand before I had something really good. Where I live I just don’t see using it much. But if that scx6 honcho goes on a crazy sale, I might very well grab one. Right before they are obsolete…
Micros are nice because they are relatively cheap and capableish out of the box but they are also highly portable. I travel a lot for work and always have some sort of small rig with me because it fits in my backpack and I can run it anywhere.
Hello Dave! Yes… That’s exactly my thought! In 2024/25 the ALL come with 1/18-1/24 scale stuff… Than comes again 1/10… Everything is repeated over and over again. Except for the genuine new developments that are added…
Personally, I've been over the small scale craze since it started. I've got a couple Arrma Groms just because I'm a fanboy but the larger the scale the happier i am. I want a1/5 or 1/6 straight axle monster truck. A Mega LMT for instance and i need a 5th scale 4x4 electric basher buggy. A 8s Typhon exb would be perfect.
I have owned many different scales of vehicles over the years. A common thread with owning an odd size is that if there is not another manufacturer producing something similar it fades away.
Large scale is a niche market. They are cool to drive and look great but the cost barrier and the size make it hard for most to commit to the large scale stuff. I think it's like that across the board, case and point, I have a Super Rock Rey that hasn't been driven in at least a year because it's so hard to find a spot that big enough or unpopulated enough that it's safe and fun to drive. Not to mention it's no fun lugging a 25+ pound RC back to the car after the batteries die or something breaks.
1/8 scale typically uses 1/10 parts for crawlers. My Traction Hobby Cragsman has a wheelbase just a tad longer than an SCX10.3 Gladiator. And really, they don't end up being much heavier than your typical TRX4 trail rig "all brassed out", but that does push the limits of a typical 1/10 motor.
I have an scx6, it's a sold 30lbs plus whatever water gets in the wheels.. I've weighed the wheels and tires after a swampy run and they were close to 7 lbs... that's more than most of my 1/10 scale trucks lol I've only had this scx6 for like 5 days now and I am super worried about the day I have to carry it out of the trail, so much so I thinking of making a dolly for it that I can just throw in my back pack
I own an SCX 6 and have had it for almost 2 years. I like driving it a bit more than my 1/10th scale trail trucks since it is pretty unstoppable. I have had to tote it back once with a dead battery and it is every bit of 30 lbs. It has space allowed for 2 batteries and you can add a 3rd. If you own one always have a backup battery if you are going out on the trail. You don't need a special place to run this truck since it is slower than a big basher and will crawl over most 1/10th scale courses. I agree the price barrier is a really high. You can get a lot of SCX 10 for $1100. The Honcho is marked down right now if anyone is looking for a deal. There is no competition to help lower the price. Maybe Traxxas or another manufacturer could provide some competition and get the price lower. It's great size and a little more fun than the smaller crawlers. It has been my favorite truck to drive for several months now.
I love my scx6, but I think it comes to money, build a pimped scx24 for price of a couple upgrades on a $1000 scx6….. And me personally it’s just to big to go out and use for a few min, it’s more of a job to get it out! 1/10 is just sweet spot….love my 1/18 utb based mini wrcca rig, but if I walk in to go craw I’m taking a sporty or a lcg……top performance and not get stuck on every leaf in the woods! Now if the come out with a 1/6 lcg rtr I’m in.
I think we'll see more small scale stuff than large-scale stuff. I also think we'll see a bunch of 1/10 scale stuff. For me what does it with the large-scale stuff is there's only one option which is an scx6 .. the lack of options is why I haven't really gotten in. Like what would make it enticing for me would be like a large-scale low center of gravity rig. Like a really big vrd carbon LOL
The minis/micros are just convenient, great for small spaces and can be tossed in your backpack and taken with you, wherever you go. The big scale stuff is expensive and most owners throw a bunch of upgrades at them, which gets out of hand pretty quickly. They're large, cumbersome and not really practical. Although pretty popular still where I am, I see the big scale stuff struggling to stay relevant!
I love my scx6, but it really only gets run at beat the creek or axialfest. 40# isn't convenient but there isn't a better scale wheeling experience than with an scx6
I will get 1 scx6 before they are gone. I do not see it being used very much. The small scale is cheap and you can find challenging terrain easily Indoors or outdoors. I have 30+ 10th scale so I think that is the sweet spot for me.
I still wouldn't mind making a Capracinno Machine.
Make it so!
You 2 really should do this.. not only would it make an entertaining video to watch. Just think of the extra earning opportunity that could bring you. You guys go to a meeting and you can sell pizzas hot dog probably hamburgers too and coffee. Like Mobile mini snack hut vendors.😂😂😂😂
Josh builds one scaled down and fully stainless…. Matt puts a Keurig mini in the back 😂
Already got a way to make steam...
Have to call it Double Shot. Josh’s will be Starbucks Livery.
I own 30ish crawlers, and the SCX6 is easily my favorite for hiking with. It simply goes places nothing else will and it’s not even close. I think the price point for entry is prohibitive, but kinda like an Xmaxx it ruins you for everything else once you have it.
This is why I plan to get one. My kids and I use TRX4s to hike with it TN and north AL mountains are a challenge and fun but some there are many trails that they just can't do due to size
1/6 Capra…we been waiting for so long…we need one
It would really be tough to not buy one of those. Even if I don’t need it…
@jasonbecker4997 I had the same excuse when I bought my jeep. Other than "to tow the losi 1/5 gasser" yet they both have mainly been sitting on shelves😂
After i bought my scx6 i almost never run my 1/10 scale trail rigs. The scx6 i so much more fun. I would also love to se a scx6 cj-7 and gladiator 😍
1/5 scale range is our preference. 8th scale if it is a competition. !/10 scale if it is cool or fun. Smaller scale doesn't do much for me. SCX6 Capra would work, very versatile and easy to customize.
Redcat is killing it lately…watch out for them. They are starting to hit their stride!! Finally:)
I stayed away from large scale vehicles forever, but I purchased a home on 3 acres of wilderness and finally it now makes sense to purchase a large scale vehicle. I currently have three large scale vehicles, and the SCX6 honcho, which will never have to be transported now that I have all the room in the world to drive it. I still think the sweet spot is 1/10 scale. I do have a small collection of 1/18 and 1/24 and they are cool but they don’t excite me much.
I love my SCX6, but I don't know of anyone else who has one around me, certainly no-one in the group I'm part of, so I'm mostly using my 10th scales. I also love my 6th scale Jetstream, and there's a couple of those around. What I need next is a 1/6 boat trailer to go between them.
We need an SCX6 Capra I bet the market grows then
I have a 10.capra build. Would love to have a 6.capra to match
@@nofoxrc exactly also it would open up for axle swaps in comp style in turn would open up offset wheels chassis designed around class 3 style rear steer rigs and things of that sort
Lmfao
👆Right there Axial👆 And make it 4ws while you're at it🤩
I pretty much strictly drive my 6 unless I am at an event. It would be nice to see the market expand more but only time will tell.
I want to try a QuicRun fusion 8ight in my Summit. I think it will be perfect for that truck.
I take my Scx6 out every time. I think the large scale stuff definitely strong but it’s not cheap to get into so there’s that big barrier keeping it for getting as big as 1/10
I got one have a few 1/6 rigs and super stoked to buy the ucfab moon buggy chassis
LOVE THE SCX6,,, hope they make more!! SCX6 CAPRA
I love my 6, once it's properly setup, it's an amazing trail machine, and you can cover a lot of miles. But I also call it a "100 buck truck" because almost everything is 100 bucks (or more) tires, foams, etc. Plus all the money you have to dump into it just to get it to steer properly.
I have exactly ONE micro, that's it. I'm into scale, so basically the more mass= more scale. The tiny stuff just doesn't cut it.
The thing about this hobby is trends tend to stay around for maybe a year or so, then dies out. (I don't see you guys having a lot of drag events anymore)
Hell, I don't know, the next thing might be Rallye cars? Who knows
If rally cars make a comeback, I'll be there.
I think the Rlaarlo Mk-07 might be a good fit for that Quicrun Fusion 8. What you think 🤔
Thought the same thing.
What motor/esc do you recommend over the fusion pro. That’s waterproof. Stubby would be even better!
I think we have a new SCX6 on the way. Hopefully, a 1/6 th Capra. Considering it popularity i think that would be what the go for. I agree 10th scale is king. With winter on the way, mini and micro will be trending. Indoor comps are great this time of year. I do have multiple 10th scale builds for this winter as well. Hopefully we get some killer RC releases before Christmas to add to the collection.
There was over 60+ SCX6's on the night run at proline by the fire
A train of scx6s driving into the dark
Being newish to the hobby, I sincerely hope large scale isn't going away. I've not purchased a large scale bc it seems we're due something new...and my luck would be as soon as I purchase scx6, bam!! VP releases some badass 1/6 MACHINE and I've blown my powder already...😂
That said, I do have 5 or 6 trx4m's and have spent waaay too much customizing them. Could've had a couple scx6s by now probs...
👍 thank you for the scale news update. My opinion is; minis are fun if there is a comp.
Same principles, smaller scale.
Also if you’re camping, they’re compact. “Fits in a glove box”.
You can have fun on a typical landscape rock at a park or where ever.
You can crawl them inside and do indoor comps during the winter time, If you live in a climate that snows”.
They do take up a little less space to store them.
With the support of the aftermarket you can make them very capable.
This being said. I’m with you. I still love the 1/10 scale crawlers, but I’ll also hold onto my minis.
Thanks 4 the SNU Episode 💯 I think going fast in scale trucks, Having less grippy tires and or a lot of side wall flex would make it a lot of fun
I love large scale stuff, have a few and their a blast to drive. That said they are expensive to buy, run, need a lot of space to run/store. I think economic realities mean yeah, it’s probably going to be curtains for some of them… I can see 8th scale being the new large scale for some vehicles, I like my 8th and 10th scale stuff the most. Sorry I just never got into the smaller than 1:10 scale stuff. I do not like working on them, reduced scale details, really any of it. I bought a few ran them a bit then sold or gave to my nephew…
The SCX6 buy in was too big for what you got, an enlarged 10.2 with a ton of heft. My friends that have them really like them though. There is a market, many of us want a 1/6 Capra, but the cost eliminates most first time or casual purchases.
I love my 6. What i don't like is driving a 1/10 immediately after. They feel like 24s lol😅 the driving experience of a 6 is just so different in a good way.
An SCX6 Honcho has been on my wish list since it was announced, but I haven’t pulled the trigger, for all the reasons Josh mentioned. Also, I’ve never seen a custom SCX6 build so it seems like a buy-and-drive sort of platform, while I equally enjoy driving and building. I enjoy my micros (six so far) and am finding myself spending more time building and driving them. Went on a family/group vacation to the mountains this week and took two SXC24s to do a bit of driving (trucks, radios, batteries, and chargers all fit in a small plastic tub which was easy to stuff in our truck). I’m not trailing with micros though, so 1/10 scale is still my favourite for going for a long drive or when I can be serious on the rocks for some time.
I think the 1/6 class does have a place with RC crawler enthusiasts, but I know Horizon doesn't like to deal in slow sellers. Just look at how they blow out slow selling models and then turn their backs on them for long term product support. I agree with you about 1/10 being the sweet spot. I have several TRX4Ms, an MST CMX, a Tamiya CC02, and a CR12, and they are all fun in their own way. But 1/10 just seems to be custom made to excel on existing and unprepared terrain. It's also great how vast the aftermarket is for 1/10. Definitely my go to size.
Super super weird that this video came out today, I just bought an scx6 over the weekend for 10th scale price I might add. But I do see the lack of support behind them, they are huge and cumbersome but they also open up an entire new world of realism, they are stupid capable out of the box as well.
Wait till that trans lets loose a mile out on the trail
@@Ziggy8750I've been towing over 100 pounds with mine for through dozens of batteries, over all sorts of hills and terrain for nearly 2 years now. Aside from the requisite steering upgrades It's bone stock. I bought it expecting to have to replace and upgrade axles, transmission, esc, and more. I almost bought all that stuff with it because I'd heard they were issues. Glad I didn't waste money on them now. It could strip every gear in it tomorrow and owe me nothing. It's now than paid for itself already but it's showing no signs of any problems. As long as you're not sitting on it towing cars around those stock internals can take a lot.
I'd honestly like to see more 1/6th scale trucks. Would really like to see vanquish come out with scx6 parts to make the scx6 more bulletproof. God bless and keep wheeling 🙏
I really hope the 1/6 scale stuff survives I love it! I don’t like the mini stuff there’s way too much to the point where 1/10 scale is being out-shadowed due to 4 minis coming out every week. I feel like if they brought out a buggy style scx6 that is 20 pounds and not 30 pounds more people would be into that. But another jeep it will be if they do😂
I just got a ton of clearance stuff from Horizon! Here on the East Coast, we run a lot of SCX6 trucks on trial runs and Comps.
I don’t own an SCX6 or similar truck but I definitely want one. Larger always seems to drive and move more like a full scale truck and can handle obstacles in a full scale world better, like branches in particular. The initial purchase cost is what’s holding me back, but I’m relatively new to RC as an adult with income so I’ve bought about $1,400 worth of trucks in the last 6 months. So I could have but there are a lot of less expensive trucks I want also.
I live in the rainforest mountains of western North Carolina so we have a LOT of trees, leaves, loose rocks and branches to drive over or move.
Best time to grab a SCX6 is now Honcho is down to 850.00 right now and may go down more on Black Friday sales?!
@@shuster1921 If I had the money I would buy one.
I recently acquired an FMS Willys Jeep (1/6th scale) and while it doesn't rival the SCX6 in size, as a "scale jeep" with a "barbie" size driver, I do think it fits the mold of scale better than the SCX10 CJ7 Jeep does. As for Minis, I do like my SCX24, which has some tasteful mods, and leans more comp than scale.. but my preference is definitely the 10th scale.
The problem I see with the 1/6 scale is you’d have to make a separate “course” for such a big rig. As oppose to the smaller scale you could actually get away with and be challenged by a course you already have set up. I hate the small stuff myself but have been tempted by the larger axial rigs because the bigger it gets the more “real” it feels anyway great video as usual 👍
Axial NEEDS to give us the SCX-6 that we’ve all been waiting for, the UMG-6! A large scale Unimog would be so awesome. The UMG-10 was the best iteration of the 10-2 in my humble opinion, and a 6th scale Mog with all of the modern updates WITH portal versions of the SCX-6 axles would be icing on the cake, finally portal axles on a model that really needs them, cmon Axial…….🤞🏼
Lmfao
Agree 🚘🍻 The Axial Umg’s are amazing
I don’t think pro-line will stop making SCX 6 parts. The only thing that is discounted is the stuff nobody would use anyway.
8th scale is about as large as I like to drive. Not too heavy and still carry-able. I am very interested in the new Hobbywing Quicrun 8ightfor my custom heavy 6x6 (double rear dually axles) and possibly for my Redcat Marksman 8th scale(this truck probably doesn't need it but what heck). The small stuff is neat for back yard courses but I feel they are too fragile for my usage.
For a lot of the same reasons I find the 1/10th scale ideal, I have two SCX24s I spent way too much upgrading like everyone else, and I haven't had either out for a crawl in over a year. The 2 RYFTs I have are plenty large enough for me, I can't imagine where I could even take something 1/6th scale to crawl, 1/10th is enough of a challenge around here. I spent most of the summer rotating through my collection, getting more familiar with each, and really enjoying the differences, limitations, and capabilities of each one.
MJX is a legit company. I have their Citroen C3 rally car, and it's a blast. Super quick, well built and looks amazing. They also have several other models, mostly basher style ones. This seem to be their first go at a crawler-ish rig, and specs look pretty decent. So far their cars have all been nice quality. Cheap, fast and fun.
That's why I'm buying ALL the SCX6 discounted parts I can, I think it's going away...lol
All I have is 1/6 scale vehicles. Everything but the newest Losi lazernut.
The Scale News Update, ROX!
Got an scx6 with a Currie Hammer Rey body on it and I love it. But, I don't trail it cos it's a heavy m'fer 😂
Mini crawlers do little for me, I prefer 1/10.
The Optic H10 is a pretty good all-rounder👌
Well, this 25 min video cost me another $250 bones, those Horizon discounts are too good to pass up! Thanks Josh, I'm looking to redecorate my Dogs vacant house, since that's sure to be my new address soon
Great upload my man, I really like your videos. Love the format, super informative yet super fun at the same time. You've got a great voice too! This is what I put on when I'm working on something in the garage and it's really fun and chill and relaxing. Hope you keep going with this, you're good at it. Cheers dude!
None of my magnets will suction to an aluminum, you invent that and you're gonna be a trillionaire
Thats what I was thinking 😂
Large scale isn't dead, it's just being ignored. We've had several years to buy the current SCX6. Most of us don't want more than 1 of them. I betcha if they'd build more we'd do our part. I've been begging for a 5th scale 4x4 electric basher buggy for years but nobody wants to go first. They'd rather compete in existing markets than lead in a new one.
How about a 1/6 scale moon buggy designed by HD?
I've got a Red Cat Marksman 8, it's a little bigger than a 10th scale enough to take old lines and made new challenges ... Did some cross reference for parts availability and DNA ( that's when it gets interesting)....
Before I get into my answer to the "David vs Goliath" question, I would like to point out that, while SCX6 sales might not be going very well, sales of the Rlaarlo MK-07 (Rlaarlo's 1/7 scale take on the SCX6) seem to be doing fairly well. Granted, parts availability is somewhat more limited, and there's almost no support from 3rd-party companies (the same can be said about almost all Rlaarlo RCs)...but, the vehicle, replacement parts, and upgrade parts, all cost considerably less than they do for the SCX6. So, maybe that has someone to with with why MK-07 sales are doing fairly well.
Getting to the "David vs Goliath" question, I can't really answer in regards to crawlers...but, in regards to RC as a whole, I think both have their merits. For example, my smallest vehicles are my Mini-Z & other 1/28 scale RCs (most of which I built from chassis kits), while my largest is a 1/5 scale Kraken RC VESLA.5 C1E SBK (the kit version of the VESLA.5). Honestly, I enjoy both. Large scale might cost more, but is easier to work on...small scale can be difficult to work on, but costs are considerably less. Best of all, both have a considerable number of upgrade parts available, some from the manufacturers, others from 3rd-party companies. Whether bashers, crawlers, or race vehicles, I believe there's room for both ends of the scale spectrum.
I have all them from the scx24 up to the scx6. I absolutely love driving my 6, but man of it decides to not drive anymore it sucks. Also all upgrades are so much money. On the flip side, I have a $500 fx118 that I use for comps. I love mini comps because they are inside and can be held in the snowy NY winters. I love building them, but don't drive them much outside of comps. 1/10 is definitely the go to trail size
The problem with the SCX6 and large scale RC in general you need somewhere big enough to run it especially with fast large scale RC’s like the infraction, XMaxx etc vs I’ve taken my SCx24 to work to mess with during break and it literally fits in my lunch bag . I’ve found random stuff to crawl it on while stuck inside the house too just feels like more opportunity to mess with the 1/18 & 1/24 rigs vs even 1/10 scale ones
Cost is the only thing keeping me from an SCX6. The current deal almost does it; if my income was the same as it was two years ago I’d probably have one.
I’m a 1/10 scale guy. But I’d love to see some more 1/7 1/8 scale rock racers, baja rigs
CrossRC Emo X owners rejoice! A Fusion suitable for our rigs is coming!
Also Fusions run great in some lighter bashers too with the right gearing. This might be useful elsewhere.
I love my SCX6, but more scale body options would be awesome; they are big enough to do some awesome details on. Small scale (1/24, 1/18) trucks are like skittles, you can't have just one and they are cheap enough that it doesn't hurt. I'm hoping we start getting scale hard bodies that rival static plastic model kits (and come as such) for the small scales.
I'd rather run larger scale than smaller. Or have more trucks like the Redcat Hauler or the CEN 450, a fullsize truck that is properly 10th scale.
I think we need a buggy style 6th scale.
I’d like to see more large scale crawler options. This time of year with leaves covering the trails and eventually snow, it’s difficult to run 1/10. The scx6 is more fun in bad conditions.
Aluminum magnetic suction. I don’t think that means what you think it means lol
I have 4 1/8 scale trail rigs and they are great. i just put a Hobbywing Axe R3 4274 in my Yikong. I'd love to get the Fusion in my other to compare. I have 2 Traction Hobby rigs as well that are tons of fun as well.
I don't think large scale is struggling but won't go completely away. It would do better if another big company got into it as well. Looking at you Traxxas...
The lack of options is why it struggles. You either have a SCX6 or want one of you're into large scale. I've got every big brand large scale rig made currently except a XRT (don't want it). If there was another large scale crawler made we'd buy it also. I'm really hoping redcat is gonna drop a large scale straight axle monster truck on us soon.
I’m with you on the mini stuff, 1/10 is the sweet spot for me too.
I’m a mini micro monster truck guy for over 4 years now. Welcome to the indoor party
1 bearing 1 tire😂😂lovely news update
That RedCat MT-18 is closer to the size of the FMS Smasher which is 1/24 scale... I've seen a video of a size comparison with the Mini LMT and the Traxxas TRX4M, and the RedCat is TINY
I want a scx6 but I don’t want to have to drive so far each time just to find a place to run it. I’m in the OC right by CDM aka Pirates Cove and it’s too big for there and all the places near by. I’ll probably still get one in the future though because I don’t have self control on my spending lol. But the 1/10’s here are perfect and I have some minis just to mix it up
I love the scx6, but most of the bodies proline has made for that thing has just been god awful. Especially the K10. They couldn’t have missed the mark more on that body. They have nice plans, but very poor execution
I started out with an SCX24, then a A18, then MN82, and I got an ascent fusion. I like the big scale stuff, it's just so flipping expensive. If they were 20-25% cheaper, I feel like they'd be more accessible. I love the local micro comps through TGH, I typically run there, and run my 10th when I go out to the rocks.
Hope 1/6th scale lives... I only plan on going bigger after 1/10th
I love the idea of 1/6th scale, they appear to drive more realistically with less bouncing around and more weight. The price is a big barrier though, $1500CAD for a truck + upgrades is a lot.
I have a SCX6 that I really do enjoy but does not get used a lot, I go for 1/10 scale rigs when running trails. I think the big scale rigs are too high of price point to gain large popularity. In Canada the SCX6 is close to $1500, that’s a pretty big investment. Small scale opens the door to a larger market.
Josh you need to do a segment talking about TwistedFabCo leaf sprung suspension systems !!!
Veterans Day was yesterday, but I don't think the large scale is as accessible to everyone who may be more willing to spend $300-$500 on a truck.
The 6 scale stuff honestly seems pretty rad. But it’s so expensive to build out. If you don’t have plenty of good terrain to run it on it’s hard to justify.
I thought about it. But I figured around 3 grand before I had something really good. Where I live I just don’t see using it much.
But if that scx6 honcho goes on a crazy sale, I might very well grab one. Right before they are obsolete…
Yall did spin last week. #praisewheel
Micros are nice because they are relatively cheap and capableish out of the box but they are also highly portable. I travel a lot for work and always have some sort of small rig with me because it fits in my backpack and I can run it anywhere.
Unfortunately it seems like 1/18-1/24 is getting a lot more support these days than 1/10.
Hello Dave! Yes… That’s exactly my thought! In 2024/25 the ALL come with 1/18-1/24 scale stuff… Than comes again 1/10… Everything is repeated over and over again. Except for the genuine new developments that are added…
Fusion 8ight for all the ryfts and bombers. Ohh yahhh
Personally, I've been over the small scale craze since it started. I've got a couple Arrma Groms just because I'm a fanboy but the larger the scale the happier i am. I want a1/5 or 1/6 straight axle monster truck. A Mega LMT for instance and i need a 5th scale 4x4 electric basher buggy. A 8s Typhon exb would be perfect.
I have owned many different scales of vehicles over the years. A common thread with owning an odd size is that if there is not another manufacturer producing something similar it fades away.
Crawler scene got quite small, most people i know are in the 1/14 function rc hobby for some time allready
Large scale is a niche market. They are cool to drive and look great but the cost barrier and the size make it hard for most to commit to the large scale stuff. I think it's like that across the board, case and point, I have a Super Rock Rey that hasn't been driven in at least a year because it's so hard to find a spot that big enough or unpopulated enough that it's safe and fun to drive. Not to mention it's no fun lugging a 25+ pound RC back to the car after the batteries die or something breaks.
1/8 scale typically uses 1/10 parts for crawlers. My Traction Hobby Cragsman has a wheelbase just a tad longer than an SCX10.3 Gladiator. And really, they don't end up being much heavier than your typical TRX4 trail rig "all brassed out", but that does push the limits of a typical 1/10 motor.
I have an scx6, it's a sold 30lbs plus whatever water gets in the wheels.. I've weighed the wheels and tires after a swampy run and they were close to 7 lbs... that's more than most of my 1/10 scale trucks lol I've only had this scx6 for like 5 days now and I am super worried about the day I have to carry it out of the trail, so much so I thinking of making a dolly for it that I can just throw in my back pack
I own an SCX 6 and have had it for almost 2 years. I like driving it a bit more than my 1/10th scale trail trucks since it is pretty unstoppable. I have had to tote it back once with a dead battery and it is every bit of 30 lbs. It has space allowed for 2 batteries and you can add a 3rd. If you own one always have a backup battery if you are going out on the trail. You don't need a special place to run this truck since it is slower than a big basher and will crawl over most 1/10th scale courses. I agree the price barrier is a really high. You can get a lot of SCX 10 for $1100. The Honcho is marked down right now if anyone is looking for a deal. There is no competition to help lower the price. Maybe Traxxas or another manufacturer could provide some competition and get the price lower. It's great size and a little more fun than the smaller crawlers. It has been my favorite truck to drive for several months now.
@@richschoonover4391lol, yeah. Traxxas could build a 1/6 and they'd charge so much the SCX6 would look cheap in comparison.
Fusion 1/8th for my axial ryft it's needs to be a slower bouncer on 4s
I love my scx6, but I think it comes to money, build a pimped scx24 for price of a couple upgrades on a $1000 scx6…..
And me personally it’s just to big to go out and use for a few min, it’s more of a job to get it out!
1/10 is just sweet spot….love my 1/18 utb based mini wrcca rig, but if I walk in to go craw I’m taking a sporty or a lcg……top performance and not get stuck on every leaf in the woods!
Now if the come out with a 1/6 lcg rtr I’m in.
The one tire thing has me in tears 😅
You said that a Fusion 2in1 is not your favorite. I'm curious, what is your GO TO set-up?
I think we'll see more small scale stuff than large-scale stuff. I also think we'll see a bunch of 1/10 scale stuff. For me what does it with the large-scale stuff is there's only one option which is an scx6 .. the lack of options is why I haven't really gotten in. Like what would make it enticing for me would be like a large-scale low center of gravity rig. Like a really big vrd carbon LOL
The minis/micros are just convenient, great for small spaces and can be tossed in your backpack and taken with you, wherever you go. The big scale stuff is expensive and most owners throw a bunch of upgrades at them, which gets out of hand pretty quickly. They're large, cumbersome and not really practical. Although pretty popular still where I am, I see the big scale stuff struggling to stay relevant!
When my boys get older the 1/10th scale will be better. They are great at the 24s. Soon hopefully! I want to build a tube chassis again…
Im kinda at the same point with the micros, comps. I don't have a super capable 10 th scale but I really like utb 18 sized.
To me 1/10 to 1/7 is where im comfy with, there is lots of upgrade peats for them
I love my scx6, but it really only gets run at beat the creek or axialfest. 40# isn't convenient but there isn't a better scale wheeling experience than with an scx6
I love the 10th scale .
Mini crawler will be plentiful
67-72 c10 body with a Ford f100 grille!!! Wtf redcat!! Haha
Speaking of Holmes Hobbies, can you guys have JRH on as a guest on an upcoming live stream?
I will get 1 scx6 before they are gone. I do not see it being used very much. The small scale is cheap and you can find challenging terrain easily Indoors or outdoors. I have 30+ 10th scale so I think that is the sweet spot for me.
30$ twin i beam, I only found 89$ facts baby facts........
You said it would be fms, but Traxxas did that for the trx4mt also
10th scale is the sweet spot. The entry into a 6th was a bit to high for me and 24th is too small to trail
Much many science, true bearing, off road wheel....