We can imagine it, Ghazghkull is at the point of victory. He just has to... reach out his hand and.... take it... Then out of nowhere comes Yarrick with the steel chair...
Living Saint Yarrick pulling a CREEEEEEEED! with his Baneblade and running Ghazghkull over in the most Looney Toons way needs to be canonized into a mural
thats what Im saying lol. Id love to see Vulcan return in 11th ed after Russ! Im, soo close to starting a Dark Angels army because we havent gotten any Salamander releases since Adrax haha
Guilliman reinforced the Space Wolves so that they could handle the Orks. He did not disregard the threat, he had a plan . Guilliman went to Fenris himself.
He was a plan & as a general he knowns he can't put all eggs into one basket. The moment they focus all of the Imperium's resources to stop the Orks, Chaos will have an opportunity to strike. They're fighting Tyranids, Necrons, Tau, Chaos, & Orks. It's difficult
You really think the space wolves will be enough to stop Ghazghkulls WAAAGH!? My brother in christ do you know how many chapter were involved in the 3rd war for Armageddon? Dozens upon dozens, several at full chapter strength. And now Ghazghkulls Great WAAAGH! Is even larger than it was during the 3rd war for Armageddon. They will not nearly be enough
@sebastianhovenas272 nah bro, of course they're enough, they're just so cool especially ragnar who already cut off Ghazghkulls head before he was primaris because you know, Ghazghkull is totally just the averagr warboss and the space wolves don't have more plot armor than every star wars main character
@@dovahfett5919 well in Ghazghkulls book it HEAVILY implies that Ghazghkull let Ragnar win on purpose, because Gork and Mork told him he had to lose in order for Da Great WAAAGH!!! To begin. Plus Ragnars fleet would never have made planetfall if Ghazghkull didn't order his fleet above Krongar to let them pass. They only faced some opposition because Mad Dok Grotsnik feared the outcome of the duel (he didn't wan't his greatest creation to be destroyed, not to mention that he is protected by Ghazghkull)
Ok kryptman… time to go back to the retirement home. There there. One day you’ll get the recognition you deserve, by the engorged hive fleet you helped create.
This is why Rogal Dorn was right in handing over the reigns of the Imperium to Guilliman. He is clearly the better strategist. Your average Imperial Fist only wants to fortify and defend everything and die where they stand, even if it makes no sense to do so. Instead Guilliman recognises the fundamental problem the Imperium is dealing with, imperial overstretch. They simply can't defend everything. The Imperium tried with the breaking of the legions and stationing small forces everywhere to keep all its systems in check in a time of no enemies that would warrant a legion sized formation to deploy against. After the disappearance of all the remaining loyalist Primarch sons, this became dogma. It eventually only led to all these smaller forces being overwhelmed. So Guilliman upon being revived, changed strategy. Instead of defending everything, he pulled back forces and consolidated them in key areas. He then counterattacked with overwhelming force and reclaimed large parts of the Imperium in a short timespan. Then he started setting up fortified bastions that can independently control and defend a region of the Imperium. Systems like Terra with the surrounding star systems, Baal and its surroundings or obviously Ultramar. These places got heavily reinforced to the point of revelative security. These places can then develop so they become even stronger and are able to produce more vessels, war gear and troops. That is why Guilliman basically ordered Dante to build Baal up. Then whenever such a bastion is established, Guilliman moves on. This was his strategy during the Great Crusade and he is doing it all over again. He doesn't just conquer, he ensures he will quickly get more resources out of the conquest than he expended in conquering it. It makes no sense splitting up his combined forces so that some can fight the Tyranids, some the Orks, some the Necrons and some Chaos. They will just all take massive losses and be overwhelmed again. Instead Guilliman is actively acquiring more forces and stationing them in key areas for when he needs them. Like this, whenever a massive invasion happens somewhere in the Imperium, there is a bastion that can hold them at bay for at least a while. Then reinforcements can be gathered and deployed from other sectors of the Imperium. It also has the implication that planets and systems outside of a bastion area, are quite frankly expendable. Those act as buffer zones to be destroyed whenever attacked by a massive force. This simply because the Imperium lacks the resources to defend all its world. And the loss of a few or even a few dozen planets, is of little consequence to the Imperium. What matters is that the Imperium has the force to respond to such major threats and destroy them.
”Bastion Imperialis” or whatever it was called was literally Dorn’s / Seventh’s strategy during the Great Crusade. They conquered, fortified and moved on. A lot what Guilliman is doing now after his nap is pretty much what Dorn had done and would done. This is said explicitly in the latest IF supplement to be the reason why Fists don’t mind following Guilliman around.
@@tiberiumnp8030I agree. Guilliman's gameplan right now is definitely Rogal dorn inspired. In unremembered empire, Guilliman gets criticized by an IF captain for trying to defend every aspect of ultramar, leaving it all exposed. If anything, he's using what he learned about the 7th.
I heard a rumour that there will be a new ork warboss character called "Chapta Masta Volrork" with a special rule called "Respec da Foijl", but hey, as we all know, all rumours are lies....😁
Helbrecht is going to be one PISSED OFF High Marshal if he ever finds out... (For those who didn't know, Guilliman sort-of ordered, sort-of persuaded the Black Templars to abandon their Ghazgkull hunt to protect some shrine worlds. Drama incoming.)
Guilliman was 100% correct though. That’s why Helbrecht immediately did a 180, he knew he was in the wrong. Ghaz is a major threat but Gman can’t afford to have the only legion in the Imperium chasing after the WAAAGHH when so much other shit is going on within the same sector.
@@FormerGovernmentHuman Guilliman has learned it's easier to handle people on their own terms rather than on his. Such an approach still has its limits, though.
SPOILERS FOR THE WOLFTIME AHEAD: Guilliman essentially charges Logan Grimnar and the Space Wolves with handling the Ork threat in Segmentun Pacificus. Leman Russ will return at the end of 10th edition in a campaign similar to Arks or Omen, coming to rescue and lead the Space Wolves from Ghaz and the Orks as they begin their offensive toward Terra. This will incidentally also include Hive Fleet Leviathan in some way, as the Tyranids are assaulting from the galactic west as well. I’m guessing we’ll get a series of campaign books like in Arks of Omen, each involving a different character; most likely Grimnar, Ghazkull, Yarrick, then Russ. Outside chance of another Farsight appearance as well, since he has history with the Orks. Perhaps a Chaos character gets involved too, perhaps Fulgrim turns up to put a wrench in the works.
Exactly in the same passage Gman says: now that Grimnar has accepted his role [of defending our rear from the orks]. It will be a heroic stand holding the line and then maybe russ might return at their dire wolftime
Please, please, bring back Vulcan, It makes sense that Guilliman wants to connect both parts of the imperium first, imagine the mayhem orks can do to imperium nihilus.
@@thefrozeninja Could see the fang under ork assault from an attack moon, heavily damaged and Grimnar expecting to have to sell the lives of his wolves before Russ coming back and unleashing hell on the orks.
This orks thing allows for a compelling chance to "resurrect" the Deathwatch in the fluff and give them a front and center purpose again for once - at least for a little bit. Special ops to blow up Ork moons seems right in their wheelhouse.
Guilliman's secret is he's actually Alpharius, and he's managed to put alpha legion brainwashed super super soldiers into every chapter in the imperium, and pretty much has absolute power
As an Ork player my hopes and dreams are as such. The Orks and Ghaz use their moons to jump into the middle of hive fleet Leviathan looking for a huge fight. In doing so they inadvertantly save the imperium from the Nids and allow them to focus on Chaos to secure nihilus. But then, in classic Ork fashion once the nids are defeated they turn right around and pick up where the nids left off with their surge towards Terra. THEN it becomes the imperiums problem.. Also, Orks are the good guys.
Ork diplomat: "Oy! Humies! Drop ya kit n' gib us ya shiny bits or we'll crump ya right propah! Oh wait... *Clears throat* Lower your weapons and we promise your deaths will be quick. Resist at your own peril."
Having a multi front war will put such a massive strain on your forces, let alone overall command structure throughout the duration of all the battlefields. Strategically you must rally your forces to bolster the front line currently necessary, that being pushing through Imperium Nihilus. With this proper expansion having solid routes for warp transportation and then reconnecting all resources with the main imperium will open up further choices. This will then increase the number of Marines and all forces of the Navy, Militarum, Aeronauticus and Sororitas to instill a proper defensive to them offensive push back on the Orks. Now this leaves the planets near by the Orks at risk indefinitely, however lost land can always be taken back by swift and aggressively military actions.
'The Wolftime' is meant to be when Russ returns? So could it be Leman Russ? Would prefer Vulkan tbh but I remember in the Space Wolf Novels it being like Russ will return in, 'The WolfTime'.
If they keep referencing the wolf time it has to be Russ. The loyalist primarchs that return seem to have no correlation with the daemon primarchs that return. If anything they seem to be the complete opposite of who you would expect to return in response to a daemon primarch. Since Fulgrim is next, it seems likely someone that didn’t have much of a rivalry with him will come out next, which would likely be Russ or Vulkan.
3:35 The Emperor had a lot of flaws, too many. But ever since Guillaman returned, he'd had to fill in his father's shoes and since then he's starting to see things from his father's perspective. The one line that REALLY sums it up for me is the line "Ive never wanted to be tyrant, maybe my father didn't want to either." - Guillaman Even during the Beast Arises series there was a theme that even though the Orks managed to get an attack moon on Terra's orbit, Chaos was till the major threat. With would explain why the Emperor didn't do much from his throne. Now even Guillaman is starting to think the same
My theory is that the orks will have these attack moons for the start of 11th edition but then theyll never be mentioned again since everyone is still in transit to the pariah nexus
Underestimating the Orks is a bad idea. If I was Guilliman, I would continue with his plan to use the wolves against them, and direct a few kill teams of Death Watch to try and delay the Orks for as long as possible. I would also call in the Guard Regiments that specialize in fighting in Orks, with Black Templar support. Maybe even call in the Carcaradons. Even if he just sends a few token forces to delay Orks long enough to weaken Chaos and push back the nids.
I'm personally thinking this could be a chance tae give the Crimson Fists their due. They were the og posterboys of 40K, so they deserve something special. A fight against the biggest Waaagh since the War of the Beast? Give them something spectacular. Even if it wipes them out, let them go in a war that the most militant haters of the Imperial Fists would salute them.
I'm calling it now, one of the first planets the Orks are gonna invade is Trazyns planet and museum. The whole point of that invasion will be to get one item, the Krork in stasis, it's Their only chance against a Primarch, a 20+ ft tall Pro with extreme intelligence. Once they Ghaz sees the Krork, he'll fully ascend to become a Krork himself. so the Orks will have two very powerful Generals.
Love it so far. Abaddon ripped the galaxy in half, fought at that planet where a safe passage is. And....then? Now Necrons, Tyranids and Orcs are all becoming massive threats. And Chaos just does Chaos stuff.
I have a brilliant idea! To buy more time to fight chaos, Guilliman should try to lure the orks into a conflict with hive fleet Leviathan who are narratively gathering dust at the moment. These two forces could tie each other up for decades. An idea which couldn't possiblie go wrong.
Interestingly, the upcoming Grand Narrative has an Ork Big Mek Warboss building something in the Kessendra System that sounds awfully close to an Attack Moon, and that supposedly even has his subordinates terrified of him actually getting the thing to work. Could all amount to nothing, but GW has said the Grand Narratives are actual canon events so who knows.
You gotta send the Meme team in to handle the Orcs. Vulcan, Commissar Cain, Sly Marbo and Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau. Nothing is going to beat those forces combined.
I think this all but confirms the return of another Primarch. As a Space Wolves fan of course I'd want the Leman Russ rumors to be true, but I wouldn't be disappointed or surprised if we got the return of Vulkan for this threat and I think he would balance out the relationship between Guilliman and The Lion if GW were to bring him back instead of Leman. Either way, the hype is real and I have a feeling Ork players won't be disappointed either way.
I wonder if we will get the Final War for Armageddon. Gazzy uses the Moons to bring Armageddon back to its right place in the galaxy. Ullanor is back, and it’s like a beacon for Orks across the galaxy causing mini beasts to arise everywhere. I have this idea that Vulkan will come back if Ullanor returns. He was last seen in a big waaagh explosion, and then before he could regenerate properly the planet was teleported away. Seems most likely that, assuming he still hasn’t regenerated, the planetary dislocation is the cause. Would be the easiest explanation for his absence from the setting.
Daddy G may intend to use them as a block for the hive fleets . Draw them into a conflict to buy time or finish them off in a two-way fight while preserving imperial resources. Also, I think there may be a xenos alliance in the make.
Vulcan makes sense, him and Ferrus (who's dead) with the exception Cawl are probably the only ones capable to produce (or already having) a fleet to match Ghazkuls. Sounds like BFG might be closer than we think.
Hey Valrak in your listening in of Emperor’s Children rumors, particularly about Fulgrim, what have you heard about how the new 40K model will differ from the ascended 30k model?
I find this difficult to believe because since 8th GW has been putting out starter boxes with resculpts for ranges that desperately need it. Death Guard, Necrons and Nids all had an aging range that benefited a lot from the refresh. But Orks have relatively new models for a lot of things. I feel like we're more likely to see another faction be the bad guys of 11th.
At the end of Space Marine 2, Titus was needed "elsewhere", imagine the next game or expansion is set against the Orks and to sabotage an attack moon :o, just a thought
No. So far only a couple of inquisitors know, and there's a big percentage that they didn't tell him, couldn't tell him, the message didn't go through, or Bulliesman doesn't believe it.
Gaz building an almighty fleet, Terra in "Terror" over the looming tidal wave of WAAAAGHHH!!! on the horizon, yet the ork forces bypass Imperial Worlds heading towards Chaos space. Guilliman is puzzled till reports come back of Boyz screaming out a new warcry on the battlefield "FO' OL BALE EYE"!
Its clear that this will be the wolf time, that Russ will return, but that also will commissar Y. The Orks will be used to kill the tryaniads. I think that the orks will through continuous fighting reach potential, i.e gain greater awareness as the emporier planned.
Calling it now, Tua captures one of these moons or something close to its size. This would change the Tua to becoming an actual threat and not a powerful nuisance, as well as letting them start reaching out further into space.
Just get the ghost of Yarrick to say he's more concerned with fighting Tyranids and Ghazghull will try to prove he can kill more Tyranids than Yarrick's Imperium.
You talked about in another video how there isn't a lot of 40K new lore to talk about and asked us if you should make stuff up, but after watching this kinda yes. I'm interested in how you think the end of the ed narrative will go/how it should go. Like book numbers How many books will be used, which factions & armies & sub factions & characters would be the driving focus?
I’ve yet to buy any new kits direct from GW, but if my Orks are in the 11th starter box, I might need to pre order! Start planning your attack moon kitbashes boyz.
There's too much plot to be had for GW to ignore bringing Leman Russ back. Back to kill the Ork threat, he breaks through to the other side of the galaxy at Guilliman's behest, and bumps into The Lion.....I think the recent GW tease of a grizzled Logan Grimnar is probably the tip of the iceberg for the Wolves.
The Orks are basically a devolved version of the Tyrannids. I feel like Krorks where basically similar to the Tyrannids. A weapon created by a race long gone.
You know how this will turn funny? if the attack moon was instead used to battle Angron and Khorne's minions instead, since Gaz must be pissed off they took Yarrick. It will make sense too, and Guilliman would try to use that as an advantage against Chaos itself.
@@RMCbreezy Never heard of them, must be someone else. I’ll send word that they’re infringing on our copyright. Meanwhile I’d like to invite you to the Rock, I’m sure our chaplains would like to reward you for this information.
We can imagine it,
Ghazghkull is at the point of victory. He just has to... reach out his hand and.... take it... Then out of nowhere comes Yarrick with the steel chair...
Living Saint Yarrick pulling a CREEEEEEEED! with his Baneblade and running Ghazghkull over in the most Looney Toons way needs to be canonized into a mural
From the top rope
BALE-EYE!!!! OI MISSED YA BUD!
*Glass shatters*
yeah but, what about the poor space wolf named characters who need their primaris upgrade? They can farm ghazghkull for easy lv up
Attack Moons you say?
A massive ork warboss you say?
...
VULKAN LIVES *Stomps* *Stomps*
VULKAN LIVES! [STOMP STOMP]
thats what Im saying lol. Id love to see Vulcan return in 11th ed after Russ! Im, soo close to starting a Dark Angels army because we havent gotten any Salamander releases since Adrax haha
Suddenly Vulcan rips his way out of the warboss. "Brother!"
Guilliman reinforced the Space Wolves so that they could handle the Orks. He did not disregard the threat, he had a plan . Guilliman went to Fenris himself.
He was a plan & as a general he knowns he can't put all eggs into one basket. The moment they focus all of the Imperium's resources to stop the Orks, Chaos will have an opportunity to strike. They're fighting Tyranids, Necrons, Tau, Chaos, & Orks. It's difficult
You really think the space wolves will be enough to stop Ghazghkulls WAAAGH!? My brother in christ do you know how many chapter were involved in the 3rd war for Armageddon? Dozens upon dozens, several at full chapter strength. And now Ghazghkulls Great WAAAGH! Is even larger than it was during the 3rd war for Armageddon. They will not nearly be enough
@sebastianhovenas272 nah bro, of course they're enough, they're just so cool especially ragnar who already cut off Ghazghkulls head before he was primaris because you know, Ghazghkull is totally just the averagr warboss and the space wolves don't have more plot armor than every star wars main character
@@sebastianhovenas272who knows how many marines they have. Maybe have some support but aren’t they in the thousands like black templars
@@dovahfett5919 well in Ghazghkulls book it HEAVILY implies that Ghazghkull let Ragnar win on purpose, because Gork and Mork told him he had to lose in order for Da Great WAAAGH!!! To begin. Plus Ragnars fleet would never have made planetfall if Ghazghkull didn't order his fleet above Krongar to let them pass. They only faced some opposition because Mad Dok Grotsnik feared the outcome of the duel (he didn't wan't his greatest creation to be destroyed, not to mention that he is protected by Ghazghkull)
If this means the Imperial Fists get wiped out again, count me in.
CRUSADE IS COMING FOR YOU FIRST.
I see what you did there.
They did let the Emperor be almost killed
😆
HERESY!!!!!!
Bro really just said "hyper bowl" for hyperbole. Never change Valrak. 😂😂😂
I'm smokin a hyper bowl right now
It's like the Super Bowl, just more hype...and exaggeration.
@@ryanexsus Same man. And that's not hyperbole.
@mehblarg5011 And Gulliman has the Ultra Bowl, which is basically a statistics nerds festival.
Hi-per-beh-lee*
Ork rumors. Guilliman needs to direct orks to tyrannids. Then send the lot into the eye of terror. 🎉Thanks Foilrak. ❤
We did that last time....
I smell Kryptmann behind the account...
@@ChapterMasterValrakI mean, if the orks win, we might get new ork units.
@@Memelord1117 return of the demon killa. Khorne most favored ork. The only individual in all of 40k to be sent to heaven by Khorne. 😉
Ok kryptman… time to go back to the retirement home. There there.
One day you’ll get the recognition you deserve, by the engorged hive fleet you helped create.
This is why Rogal Dorn was right in handing over the reigns of the Imperium to Guilliman. He is clearly the better strategist.
Your average Imperial Fist only wants to fortify and defend everything and die where they stand, even if it makes no sense to do so.
Instead Guilliman recognises the fundamental problem the Imperium is dealing with, imperial overstretch.
They simply can't defend everything. The Imperium tried with the breaking of the legions and stationing small forces everywhere to keep all its systems in check in a time of no enemies that would warrant a legion sized formation to deploy against. After the disappearance of all the remaining loyalist Primarch sons, this became dogma. It eventually only led to all these smaller forces being overwhelmed.
So Guilliman upon being revived, changed strategy. Instead of defending everything, he pulled back forces and consolidated them in key areas. He then counterattacked with overwhelming force and reclaimed large parts of the Imperium in a short timespan. Then he started setting up fortified bastions that can independently control and defend a region of the Imperium. Systems like Terra with the surrounding star systems, Baal and its surroundings or obviously Ultramar. These places got heavily reinforced to the point of revelative security. These places can then develop so they become even stronger and are able to produce more vessels, war gear and troops. That is why Guilliman basically ordered Dante to build Baal up.
Then whenever such a bastion is established, Guilliman moves on. This was his strategy during the Great Crusade and he is doing it all over again. He doesn't just conquer, he ensures he will quickly get more resources out of the conquest than he expended in conquering it. It makes no sense splitting up his combined forces so that some can fight the Tyranids, some the Orks, some the Necrons and some Chaos. They will just all take massive losses and be overwhelmed again. Instead Guilliman is actively acquiring more forces and stationing them in key areas for when he needs them. Like this, whenever a massive invasion happens somewhere in the Imperium, there is a bastion that can hold them at bay for at least a while. Then reinforcements can be gathered and deployed from other sectors of the Imperium. It also has the implication that planets and systems outside of a bastion area, are quite frankly expendable. Those act as buffer zones to be destroyed whenever attacked by a massive force. This simply because the Imperium lacks the resources to defend all its world. And the loss of a few or even a few dozen planets, is of little consequence to the Imperium. What matters is that the Imperium has the force to respond to such major threats and destroy them.
”Bastion Imperialis” or whatever it was called was literally Dorn’s / Seventh’s strategy during the Great Crusade. They conquered, fortified and moved on. A lot what Guilliman is doing now after his nap is pretty much what Dorn had done and would done. This is said explicitly in the latest IF supplement to be the reason why Fists don’t mind following Guilliman around.
@@tiberiumnp8030I agree. Guilliman's gameplan right now is definitely Rogal dorn inspired.
In unremembered empire, Guilliman gets criticized by an IF captain for trying to defend every aspect of ultramar, leaving it all exposed. If anything, he's using what he learned about the 7th.
That's why Guiliman is one of the greatest. Top 3 Primarch besides Sanguinius and Dorn
He's turning into a Beast at least!
The Orks: *build attack moons*
Guilliman: "Chaos is more important, ignore them"
Those Harlequins: "VINDICATION!*
I heard a rumour that there will be a new ork warboss character called "Chapta Masta Volrork" with a special rule called "Respec da Foijl", but hey, as we all know, all rumours are lies....😁
When I read “Guillimens Big Secret” I thought they were going to canonize him clapping Aeldar cheeks with Yvraine
That meme is so played out , I can’t remember it ever being funny either……
@@MrJara1018 Even less funny when you realise it's pretty much the only Ynnari content we see now.
Homies packing an Arizona Grape can under that armor
I mean didn’t they already imply that
@@The_Blood_Wraith Did they? I thought they just had a normal conversation.
Helbrecht is going to be one PISSED OFF High Marshal if he ever finds out...
(For those who didn't know, Guilliman sort-of ordered, sort-of persuaded the Black Templars to abandon their Ghazgkull hunt to protect some shrine worlds. Drama incoming.)
Guilliman was 100% correct though. That’s why Helbrecht immediately did a 180, he knew he was in the wrong.
Ghaz is a major threat but Gman can’t afford to have the only legion in the Imperium chasing after the WAAAGHH when so much other shit is going on within the same sector.
@@FormerGovernmentHuman Guilliman has learned it's easier to handle people on their own terms rather than on his. Such an approach still has its limits, though.
Ragnar Blackmanes tried taking him out twice, beheading him the 1st time, so its not like the imperiums not being doing nothing
SPOILERS FOR THE WOLFTIME AHEAD:
Guilliman essentially charges Logan Grimnar and the Space Wolves with handling the Ork threat in Segmentun Pacificus. Leman Russ will return at the end of 10th edition in a campaign similar to Arks or Omen, coming to rescue and lead the Space Wolves from Ghaz and the Orks as they begin their offensive toward Terra. This will incidentally also include Hive Fleet Leviathan in some way, as the Tyranids are assaulting from the galactic west as well. I’m guessing we’ll get a series of campaign books like in Arks of Omen, each involving a different character; most likely Grimnar, Ghazkull, Yarrick, then Russ. Outside chance of another Farsight appearance as well, since he has history with the Orks. Perhaps a Chaos character gets involved too, perhaps Fulgrim turns up to put a wrench in the works.
Exactly in the same passage Gman says: now that Grimnar has accepted his role [of defending our rear from the orks]. It will be a heroic stand holding the line and then maybe russ might return at their dire wolftime
Damn good theories
Well, Russ said he’d return in Wolftime. All aboard the woof-woof-arooooo train
Fulgrim? Actually participate in an active story event? After Rylanor’s bitch slapping? You must be new here.
@@Minnesota_Fatts range refresh coming, so at the least one book incoming lol
Please, please, bring back Vulcan, It makes sense that Guilliman wants to connect both parts of the imperium first, imagine the mayhem orks can do to imperium nihilus.
Everything Valrak says must be true, because it’s Friday and there is no foil on his head
Maybe he's wearing one on his other head 🤔
The foil became his hair.
Would be a good time to bring back Vulkan, Russ or Dorn
They proceed to bring back Jaghatai or Corax lol.
Maybe Vulkan is somewhere in Imperium Nihilus.
Ill take any of them, but im sure we'll get russ since space wolves refresh on the horizon =)
@@thefrozeninja Could see the fang under ork assault from an attack moon, heavily damaged and Grimnar expecting to have to sell the lives of his wolves before Russ coming back and unleashing hell on the orks.
its going to be Russ obviously.
This orks thing allows for a compelling chance to "resurrect" the Deathwatch in the fluff and give them a front and center purpose again for once - at least for a little bit. Special ops to blow up Ork moons seems right in their wheelhouse.
Here's hoping!
They fights tyranids only, EVERYDAY 😭
Guilliman's secret is he's actually Alpharius, and he's managed to put alpha legion brainwashed super super soldiers into every chapter in the imperium, and pretty much has absolute power
If this means the Last Wall Protocol happens, I’m gonna cry tears of joy.
As an Ork player my hopes and dreams are as such. The Orks and Ghaz use their moons to jump into the middle of hive fleet Leviathan looking for a huge fight. In doing so they inadvertantly save the imperium from the Nids and allow them to focus on Chaos to secure nihilus. But then, in classic Ork fashion once the nids are defeated they turn right around and pick up where the nids left off with their surge towards Terra. THEN it becomes the imperiums problem.. Also, Orks are the good guys.
Without watching the video is gulliman about to become a daddy to a baby half eldar??🤣🤣🤣
😂
God damn it!
Nah Dorn's gonna come back with a group of Eldar or Tau kids who call him granpa Rogal
@@Electricbaldy
Orks used their Attack Moons to whiteout the. Tyranid invasion saving the galaxy right before turning on the Galaxy.
That would be cool.
'Entire chapters were wiped out'. Which chapters, Valrak ? Which ones specifically ?
Sorry I am loosing my signal.
Hopefully the orange boys with the fist icon
Firefighter chapter
Ork diplomat: "Oy! Humies! Drop ya kit n' gib us ya shiny bits or we'll crump ya right propah! Oh wait... *Clears throat* Lower your weapons and we promise your deaths will be quick. Resist at your own peril."
I mean this just could be Ghazghkull hunting down World Eaters and Angron, which would make sense from a storytelling standpoint
Not really since the whole Angron killing Yarrick isn't in any story or lore it's just a fan theory that exploded.
@@Luciusthestormswhaaat i mean it would be funny tho. You killed my frenemy!
That would be too cool of a story line for GW, no wonder the fans had to come up with it
Having a multi front war will put such a massive strain on your forces, let alone overall command structure throughout the duration of all the battlefields. Strategically you must rally your forces to bolster the front line currently necessary, that being pushing through Imperium Nihilus. With this proper expansion having solid routes for warp transportation and then reconnecting all resources with the main imperium will open up further choices. This will then increase the number of Marines and all forces of the Navy, Militarum, Aeronauticus and Sororitas to instill a proper defensive to them offensive push back on the Orks. Now this leaves the planets near by the Orks at risk indefinitely, however lost land can always be taken back by swift and aggressively military actions.
Just send the Crimson Fists and Black Templars to deal with the orks. We all know they specialize in that kind of thing.
'The Wolftime' is meant to be when Russ returns? So could it be Leman Russ? Would prefer Vulkan tbh but I remember in the Space Wolf Novels it being like Russ will return in, 'The WolfTime'.
Yes you're right. The wolves believe that Russ will return in the wolftime
If they keep referencing the wolf time it has to be Russ.
The loyalist primarchs that return seem to have no correlation with the daemon primarchs that return. If anything they seem to be the complete opposite of who you would expect to return in response to a daemon primarch. Since Fulgrim is next, it seems likely someone that didn’t have much of a rivalry with him will come out next, which would likely be Russ or Vulkan.
ghazghkull might actually become a beast or even a krork if he wins in this 11th edition if its ork themed
Guilliman will find a way to direct the attack moons at the Tyranids and the psychic power of the Orks is what will actually revive Yarrick
High Lords of Terra: What's that moon?
Custodes Captain-General: "That's no moon!"
That Guilliman voice is top tier lol
VULKAN LIVES!!!! MY GENE-FATHER LIVES!!!!! STOMP STOMP!!
*_STOMP STOMP_*
Valrak: "there is no lore in 10th edition"
Also Valrak: Doesnt read any of the new lore thats come out in 10th edition
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The Emperor had a lot of flaws, too many.
But ever since Guillaman returned, he'd had to fill in his father's shoes and since then he's starting to see things from his father's perspective.
The one line that REALLY sums it up for me is the line
"Ive never wanted to be tyrant, maybe my father didn't want to either."
- Guillaman
Even during the Beast Arises series there was a theme that even though the Orks managed to get an attack moon on Terra's orbit, Chaos was till the major threat.
With would explain why the Emperor didn't do much from his throne.
Now even Guillaman is starting to think the same
My theory is that the orks will have these attack moons for the start of 11th edition but then theyll never be mentioned again since everyone is still in transit to the pariah nexus
Underestimating the Orks is a bad idea. If I was Guilliman, I would continue with his plan to use the wolves against them, and direct a few kill teams of Death Watch to try and delay the Orks for as long as possible. I would also call in the Guard Regiments that specialize in fighting in Orks, with Black Templar support. Maybe even call in the Carcaradons. Even if he just sends a few token forces to delay Orks long enough to weaken Chaos and push back the nids.
It’s almost time for Warhammer 41k
😂
Guilliman's secret is his elf lover that his kept a secret.
Eldrad?
*Ghaz n the bois slinging some fancy tech*
The Lion: Oh no
*Initiate Dreadwing Protocol*
The Lion: Anyway.... Guillimannnn!
😮If Vulcan is returned to us instead of Leman Russ, it will be even cooler!🎉
Ork Attack Moon: *exists*
Imperial Fists: "It's going to happen again..." 😰
Ghazkull: Appears .
Vulcan: My Fwiend! Let me hug you!
I think he's trying to get the Orks setup against the Tyranids; so encouraging their buildup would create an epic counterbalance to the Hive.
I'm personally thinking this could be a chance tae give the Crimson Fists their due. They were the og posterboys of 40K, so they deserve something special.
A fight against the biggest Waaagh since the War of the Beast? Give them something spectacular. Even if it wipes them out, let them go in a war that the most militant haters of the Imperial Fists would salute them.
I don’t think people hate either of the fists, they are just boring. Templars are far more entertaining and exciting than building fortresses.
@@FormerGovernmentHuman
I'm basically saying that the Crimson Fists should do something that impresses everyone, that's all.
Sorry my pain glove was too high what was that?
I'm calling it now, one of the first planets the Orks are gonna invade is Trazyns planet and museum. The whole point of that invasion will be to get one item, the Krork in stasis, it's Their only chance against a Primarch, a 20+ ft tall Pro with extreme intelligence. Once they Ghaz sees the Krork, he'll fully ascend to become a Krork himself. so the Orks will have two very powerful Generals.
Love it so far. Abaddon ripped the galaxy in half, fought at that planet where a safe passage is. And....then? Now Necrons, Tyranids and Orcs are all becoming massive threats. And Chaos just does Chaos stuff.
Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka is gonna become a true Krork at this rate. Really hope Vulcan comes back. VULCAN LIVES!!! *Thump Thump*
Prime time for the Salamanders big man to return to crack some moons!
Let's just call the Fists Exemplar, I am sure they can handle this 😆
I have a brilliant idea! To buy more time to fight chaos, Guilliman should try to lure the orks into a conflict with hive fleet Leviathan who are narratively gathering dust at the moment. These two forces could tie each other up for decades. An idea which couldn't possiblie go wrong.
Where did you get your imperial fists banner in the background? I’d love to get a Salamanders or Carcharadons one
Listening to valrak read these excerpts in such an intense voice, brings me so much joy
And then the Lion just Forest walks in, you hear the glass shatter, you hear stone cold Steve Austin music playing, and he bodies the orks
Interestingly, the upcoming Grand Narrative has an Ork Big Mek Warboss building something in the Kessendra System that sounds awfully close to an Attack Moon, and that supposedly even has his subordinates terrified of him actually getting the thing to work.
Could all amount to nothing, but GW has said the Grand Narratives are actual canon events so who knows.
Sounds like the Imperium needs a certain Chapter to prowl to resurgence. 🐺
"Entire chapters wiped out" Just like the Imperial Fists
You gotta send the Meme team in to handle the Orcs. Vulcan, Commissar Cain, Sly Marbo and Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau. Nothing is going to beat those forces combined.
Consider the history between the Beast and the Imperial Fist. It seems promising to see Rogal Dorn comes back. XD
I think this all but confirms the return of another Primarch. As a Space Wolves fan of course I'd want the Leman Russ rumors to be true, but I wouldn't be disappointed or surprised if we got the return of Vulkan for this threat and I think he would balance out the relationship between Guilliman and The Lion if GW were to bring him back instead of Leman. Either way, the hype is real and I have a feeling Ork players won't be disappointed either way.
I wonder if we will get the Final War for Armageddon. Gazzy uses the Moons to bring Armageddon back to its right place in the galaxy. Ullanor is back, and it’s like a beacon for Orks across the galaxy causing mini beasts to arise everywhere.
I have this idea that Vulkan will come back if Ullanor returns. He was last seen in a big waaagh explosion, and then before he could regenerate properly the planet was teleported away. Seems most likely that, assuming he still hasn’t regenerated, the planetary dislocation is the cause. Would be the easiest explanation for his absence from the setting.
I still one to see Abaddon getting ready to do one of his big pushes, succeed in some huge plan... And Boom Orks attack from his flank.
Daddy G may intend to use them as a block for the hive fleets . Draw them into a conflict to buy time or finish them off in a two-way fight while preserving imperial resources. Also, I think there may be a xenos alliance in the make.
so what i am hearing is that we are getting Kork's models :D, because orks already have everything they could possibly need in their army
This is good, a connection to the Beast Arises -series. Nice development.
Vulcan makes sense, him and Ferrus (who's dead) with the exception Cawl are probably the only ones capable to produce (or already having) a fleet to match Ghazkuls.
Sounds like BFG might be closer than we think.
Hey Valrak in your listening in of Emperor’s Children rumors, particularly about Fulgrim, what have you heard about how the new 40K model will differ from the ascended 30k model?
I wanna see Gaz take his attack moons against that planet-sized tyranid organism
If it ends up on Armageddon perhaps vashtor may get involved with the knowledge of the weapon that was located by the black templars
How much dakka is too much dakka?
Orks: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
I find this difficult to believe because since 8th GW has been putting out starter boxes with resculpts for ranges that desperately need it. Death Guard, Necrons and Nids all had an aging range that benefited a lot from the refresh. But Orks have relatively new models for a lot of things.
I feel like we're more likely to see another faction be the bad guys of 11th.
Sounds like he could use help from... The Emperor's Exterminator.
At the end of Space Marine 2, Titus was needed "elsewhere", imagine the next game or expansion is set against the Orks and to sabotage an attack moon :o, just a thought
Secret? Finally someone popped out from under his desk
Gonna call it, Ghazghkull evolves into a Krork Pokémon style
Girlyman doesn't know about the Lion yet does he? Because if he knew he could concentrate on the Orks and The Lion does the chaos stuff
No. So far only a couple of inquisitors know, and there's a big percentage that they didn't tell him, couldn't tell him, the message didn't go through, or Bulliesman doesn't believe it.
How quickly GW forgot the Necrons and Tyranids
Friendly reminder that Ghazkull is also called "the Beast that brings great slaughter" and the "beast of Armaggedon"
Guilliman telling Helbrecht to stop chasing my boy Ghaz starting to look like a bad call
Imagine Yarriks will is so strong he is the only human to survive being put in a dreadnought
Gaz building an almighty fleet, Terra in "Terror" over the looming tidal wave of WAAAAGHHH!!! on the horizon, yet the ork forces bypass Imperial Worlds heading towards Chaos space. Guilliman is puzzled till reports come back of Boyz screaming out a new warcry on the battlefield "FO' OL BALE EYE"!
If Fulgrim returns and they bring back either Vulkan or Corax, I'll be so hyped. Those are my 2 favorite Primarchs so it's possibly a win-win for me!!
Its clear that this will be the wolf time, that Russ will return, but that also will commissar Y. The Orks will be used to kill the tryaniads. I think that the orks will through continuous fighting reach potential, i.e gain greater awareness as the emporier planned.
Calling it now, Tua captures one of these moons or something close to its size. This would change the Tua to becoming an actual threat and not a powerful nuisance, as well as letting them start reaching out further into space.
Meanwhile there is anything from 2-5 billion orks in Forsarr sector that...simply disappeared during the 13th black crusade.
Just get the ghost of Yarrick to say he's more concerned with fighting Tyranids and Ghazghull will try to prove he can kill more Tyranids than Yarrick's Imperium.
If this mean we get Vulkan back than I have nothing more to say
Hi-per-Bo-lee…. Not Hyper bowl…never change Valrak… we love you just as you are!!!
You talked about in another video how there isn't a lot of 40K new lore to talk about and asked us if you should make stuff up, but after watching this kinda yes. I'm interested in how you think the end of the ed narrative will go/how it should go. Like book numbers How many books will be used, which factions & armies & sub factions & characters would be the driving focus?
Weird how Nihillus turned into Chaos's version of the cadian gate.
Hopefully he gives the secret to the inquisition with some land raiders to protect it.
Ghaz isn't building moons, he's building planets. He's got a date with Angron to keep.
I’ve yet to buy any new kits direct from GW, but if my Orks are in the 11th starter box, I might need to pre order! Start planning your attack moon kitbashes boyz.
4:06 hyperbole = high-per-bow-lee
The Ep-eh-tome of hyper-bowl
@@christopheraaron1255 I said it in low gothic
@@ChapterMasterValrakyou said it in high Orkish
There's too much plot to be had for GW to ignore bringing Leman Russ back. Back to kill the Ork threat, he breaks through to the other side of the galaxy at Guilliman's behest, and bumps into The Lion.....I think the recent GW tease of a grizzled Logan Grimnar is probably the tip of the iceberg for the Wolves.
The Orks are basically a devolved version of the Tyrannids.
I feel like Krorks where basically similar to the Tyrannids.
A weapon created by a race long gone.
I'm pretty sure guilliman might trick the orks into fighting chaos because of angron
I hope Vulkan comes back the imperium needs better odds we have Lionel to
Thinking of the fight betwixt Gaz and Ragnar, mayhaps this could foreshadow the return of a certain Wolf Primarch......
You know how this will turn funny? if the attack moon was instead used to battle Angron and Khorne's minions instead, since Gaz must be pissed off they took Yarrick.
It will make sense too, and Guilliman would try to use that as an advantage against Chaos itself.
As a First legion loyalist I automatically assume Gorillaman is wrong about everything then go from there. For the Lion!
Cousin, ive heard stories of some renegade marines with your iconography with robes. What say you about these so-called Fallen?
@@RMCbreezy Never heard of them, must be someone else. I’ll send word that they’re infringing on our copyright. Meanwhile I’d like to invite you to the Rock, I’m sure our chaplains would like to reward you for this information.
@@christopherlee9231 Sure, just let me appease my bolters machine spirit before we go..