INTENSE! GodLogic Debates The Muslim Who "DESTROYED" AskCliffe | Quran Contradiction
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Ex muslim here , a proud follower of Jesus Christ
@@murtazarahmani2524 An Ex Muslim, i swear, Start a Comedy by Ask him why he left Islam.😅 this are the most clueless kinds of people
@@MohammedFofana-dq8ezclueless? Mate the only one's clueless are those that believe the 16 privileges of Muhammed doesn't make Islam a cult.
How does the creator of Islam get 16 privileges that go directly against the teachings and law's of your god and still have your god remain fair and just? He broke his own laws so therefore he is neither fair or just!
Welcome aboard brother 😁❤🙏
@@lukelayton3373 U see what i mean, Bro!! U where never a muslim 😅😅, stop Lying. U just proved my point, everything u have said here is total nonsense, 16 WHAT? 😅😅😅 My stomach.. May Allah Guide you
@@MohammedFofana-dq8ez i meet Jesus he changed my whole life, he find me in my darkest days where i seek God Jesus Christ show up 💪🙏 he can change ur life too mate
The mental gymnastics Muslims have to go through to defend the Quran is crazy
Not sure if you’re Christian but if you are you believe a man god. Kindly stfu about mental gymnastics
@@samk5367 if you are an example of a good Muslim with that arrogance and type of communication, the world would be better off atheist.
Please shut up
Honestly, USA is lucky Muslims don’t have a gymnastics team frrrr
It's exhausting to watch. 🤦🏽♀️😩
Muslim: let’s talk respectful and not interrupt
Also Muslim: *interrupts constantly*
Facts!!!
They always do.
Then he asks questions on top of questions … going off on other things instead staying focused
@@Osten714 they've done more than that and worse. They surround, theu argue, they heckle, they start to shout, they swear and get abusive, and also...they have been violent.
@@Ruth_1_16You’re not lying. Because matter of fact, I’m debating a muslim who questioning about morals of the Bible context like (Exodus 21:10) and (Number 31:18) also (1 Samuel 15:3). Like you heard it all the time (Which is pretty annoying).
And now I’m challenging the muslim about muhammad principled of “Buying a slave and never once set it free”
Iraqi Assyrian here, God bless all of you in Jesus name
🙏
@@rosessonata8326God bless you brother. In Jesus name.
God bless you brother. In Jesus’ name.
You too brother 🇬🇧
God bless you man. Praise the LORD
Christian arab here, God bless you all🙏🏻
God Bless
God bless you too
Hello dear. I hope you don't use the Arabic Bible with the name of Allah in it.. Blessings
May Allah guide the Christian they are lost in their false bible
May Allah guide the Christian they are lost in their false bible
He didn't destroyed Pastor Cliff at all. Pastor Cliff was kind and was trying to make him think. He didn't wanted to, so the pastor said then I don't have anything more to say. Now the muslims sees this as a victory 😔
Correct
Matt destroyed cliff
Cliff is a dishonest man
@OdysseyMMA22 Matt is being willfully obtuse and continuing the argument in a giant circle.
If you can't continue a conversation because the other party can't/won't participate in a way that furthers the dialogue, someone has to end the exchange.
@@OdysseyMMA22this Matt never was a Christian in the 1st place as he claimed ! He said he read the Bible an ex-Christian but note he doesn’t even understand 1 John 2:19 whatsoever .its either you’re a believer in Christ / Christian or you’re not period , never was .
1Jn 2:19 They went out from us but they were not of us. For if they had been of us, they would no doubt have remained with us: but that they may be manifest, that they are not all of us.
1Jn 2:20 But you have the unction from the Holy One and know all things.
1Jn 2:21 I have not written to you as to them that know not the truth, but as to them that know it: and that no lie is of the truth.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denieth the Father and the Son.
@@OdysseyMMA22 Can you give an example? Muslims should like pastor Cliff, he is one of the the kindest out there. He know Mohamed but he protect him from the hard truth. So, I think you don't want him to be honest.
I don’t think he was even close to destroying Cliff 😂😂😂
Nowhere near. Cliff is too wise and too experienced to play games with a disingenuous kid
@@judgecutiejudy8409i agree cliffe has a a different way of approaching things but hes really wise when it comes to doctrine
@@SLKFOREVER03 The kid probably said he "destroyed" Cliffe because Cliffe wanted to break things down instead of giving a yes or no answer, and then the kid ran laughing
Cliff should study philosophy. Islam is incoherent due to its reliance on a Unitarian god. They become predeterminists.
Yup, saw the video and ANOTHER false claim! He didn’t destroy Cliff.
Dude said, "I was a Christian and then I did my research and became a Muslim" LOL!!!!!!!!!!! That research went sideways real quick I think! May God heal his mind and bring him back to Christianity, in Jesus' name.
Damn LOL amen
If the Muslim didn’t destroy cliffe, then you answer the last answer before he got sent off, come on answer it
@@TropTropical What was the question?
@@TropTropical Go lick the black stone lol.
If I were to end someone's life, would simply asking Jesus for forgiveness be enough to wipe the slate clean? Christianity teaches that we are all sinners destined for damnation, so does it really matter? How many times can I plead for such forgiveness? Can I keep committing these acts and still expect to be absolved each time I ask?
Without lies Islam dies. Sad this Muslim proves it
The lie that God made his own son that became part of him is the truth?
@@MJAli89
Haha, this is easy!....
Scenario 2 dictates and necessitates that Scenario 1 is defunct because there's a special key!....
And Scenario 2, if the people are tied up, then I don't need a key because if tied up rather than chained up, then it's rope and I don't need the special key! 😂🤣
@@cartoonmo5976 He did say tied up with locks. Chains can be used to tie someone up.
@@telvinphiri1620God did not creat his only begotten Son.
His Son came out from him.
He is THE Word of God or Spirit of God. He is a part of God and subject to God.
There are 15+ mention of "Spirit of God" in the Torah or Old testament.
@@TexasHoosier3118
Don't try and play semantics!....
He didn't say "special locks"!...
A knot is a lock if tied up, a padlock is a lock if "chained up"!
😂
The Quran is so simple and clear, it requires ignoring the Quran and listening to Scholars. 😂
And that's what they want. They want to give you a bait to catch you and turn you into a mindless slave.
The Quran is not ignored... U act as if u didn't learn the bible from somewhere or some pastor who had his own doctrine... Stop the cap
@@telvinphiri1620I haven't met a Christian directing anybody to scholars when asked logical question.
@@NATAR160 what's logical in Christianity? isnt all that reffered from the bible verses which u learnt from somewhere? You said God has a son and there's this philosophy u make up to justify this
@@NATAR160 even Jews think its blasphemous to say God has a son
When a muslim gets offended, they start speaking in enchantment table syllables
lol
Shalalalalala babalala - like that? 🤣
@@ChrisG-m8byes just like that 😂😂
😂😂😂
Genuine gibberish
I love it when they say I used to be a Christian a true Christian would never be a Muslim
Exactly. This is the difference between knowing of God and knowing God.
AGREE
These Muslims will go against Allah to argue Christians.
And most of them will deflect on other religions instead of defending their own when questioned
@@artilleriman Accurate 100%
Because they hate Jesus more than they love Allah
Its called taqiya :)
@@WLID_ They don't love allah, mohamad the pdfile is their god
The author of confusion wrote the Quran
Satan
The Devil?? Satan, that is Allah, the greatest of Deceivers!!
Explain? It's Obvious u have never read the Quran, Compare with with a religion that has different Author's which are Anonymous with Uncountable contradictions
@@MohammedFofana-dq8ez
corrupt kuran:
2 :31 - 40 And He taught Adam the names - all of them. Then He displayed them to the angels, then He said, "Inform Me of (the) names (of) these, if you are truthful." They said, "Glory be to You! No knowledge (is) for us except what You have taught us. Indeed You! You (are) the All-Knowing, the All-Wise. He said, "O Adam! Inform them of their names." And when he had informed them of their names, He said, "Did not I say to you, Indeed, I [I] know (the) unseen (of) the heavens and the earth, and I know what you reveal and what you [were] conceal." And when We said to the angels, "Prostrate to Adam," [so] they prostrated except Iblis. He refused and was arrogant and became of the disbelievers.
ORIGINAL TEXT:
THE FALL OF SATAN The extraordinary qualities with which Adam was blessed, physical and spiritual as well, aroused the envy of the angels. They attempted to consume him with fire, and he would have perished, had not the protecting hand of God rested upon him, and established peace between him and the heavenly host. In particular, Satan was jealous of the first man, and his evil thoughts finally led to his fall. After Adam had been endowed with a soul, God invited all the angels to come and pay him reverence and homage. Satan, the greatest of the angels in heaven, with twelve wings, instead of six like all the others, refused to pay heed to the behest of God, saying, "Thou didst create us angels from the splendor of the Shekinah, and now Thou dost command us to cast ourselves down before the creature which Thou didst fashion out of the dust of the ground!" God answered, "Yet this dust of the ground has more wisdom and understanding than thou." Satan demanded a trial of wit with Adam, and God assented thereto, saying: "I have created beasts, birds, and reptiles, I shall have them all come before thee and before Adam. If thou art able to give them names, I shall command Adam to show honor unto thee, and thou shalt rest next to the Shekinah of My glory. But if not, and Adam calls them by the names I have assigned to them, then thou wilt be subject to Adam, and he shall have a place in My garden, and cultivate it." Thus spake God, and He betook Himself to Paradise, Satan following Him. When Adam beheld God, he said to his wife, "O come, let us worship and bow down; let us kneel before the Lord our Maker." Now Satan attempted to assign names to the animals. He failed with the first two that presented themselves, the ox and the cow. God led two others before him, the camel and the donkey, with the same result. Then God turned to Adam, and questioned him regarding the names of the same animals, framing His questions in such wise that the first letter of the first word was the same as the first letter of the name of the animal standing before him. Thus Adam divined the proper name, and Satan was forced to acknowledge the superiority of the first man. Nevertheless he broke out in wild outcries that reached the heavens, and he refused to do homage unto Adam as he had been bidden. The host of angels led by him did likewise, in spite of the urgent representations of Michael, who was the first to prostrate himself before Adam in order to show a good example to the other angels. Michael addressed Satan: "Give adoration to the image of God! But if thou doest it not, then the Lord God will break out in wrath against thee." Satan replied: "If He breaks out in wrath against me, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God, I will be like the Most High! "At once God flung Satan and his host out of heaven, down to the earth, and from that moment dates the enmity between Satan and man.
WHO corrupt your kuran?
How can u put ur fate on something that has so much disagreements, even ur God's are confusion, u can't even explain with logic to a disbeliever and he should understand 😂😂😂
If you disagree with Christianity while seeking truth then you will never find it.
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The man Jesus is not even part of the Trinity! Jesus is a being next to the Trinity according to the doctrine of 2 natures!
WHY! The Koran God argues as if the human being Jesus is in Christianity not a human being but God!
Although God (Trinity) is a completely different being than the prophet Jesus according to the doctrine of 2 natures!
So the Koran attacks the FALSE NATURE (the false being)
The man Jesus is not even part of the Trinity! Jesus is a being next to the Trinity according to the doctrine of 2 natures!
Why The Islambookgod argues as if the human being Jesus is in Christianity not a human being but God!
Although God (Trinity) is a completely different being than the prophet Jesus according to the doctrine of 2 natures!
So the Islambookgod attacks the false nature (the false being)
Facts
That's not true nir is it even biblical paul is the biggest argument against this claim he was an antagonist against the Christian faith and killed many Christians only to become one of the biggest believers there was. Nabeel qureshshi was also a a beautiful testimony as well of a Muslim man who lived and died a defender of the faith
This Christian guy is very brilliant debater. Great respect for you, brother. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I am a Christian Arab and we don’t identify with allah as the same Christian God. We only call him allah is because you took our lands over. We had our own language and called God his name in Aramaic. The word god in Arabic is ilah not allah
Yup and they printed Christian Bibles and added Allah in place of God.
Just because u don't doesn't mean its general
@@telvinphiri1620neither does Christian Prince. Im willing to bet most educated arab Christians think this way
Why? Doesn't the Arabic Bible state that God's actual name is YHWH in Exodus 3:15?
وَقَالَ اللهُ ايْضا لِمُوسَى: «هَكَذَا تَقُولُ لِبَنِي اسْرَائِيلَ: يَهْوَهْ الَهُ ابَائِكُمْ الَهُ ابْرَاهِيمَ وَالَهُ اسْحَاقَ وَالَهُ يَعْقُوبَ ارْسَلَنِي الَيْكُمْ. هَذَا اسْمِي الَى الابَدِ وَهَذَا ذِكْرِي الَى دَوْرٍ
Also isn't Arabic a language that diverged from Aramaic as some kind of regional dialect?
I thought Arab Christians were people whose ancestors were Christians and spoke Arabic BEFORE the creation of Islam since the bible mentions that Arabic speaking Jews heard their own languages spoken at the first Pentecost after Jesus' ascension.
كِرِيتِيُّونَ وَعَرَبٌ نَسْمَعُهُمْ يَتَكَلَّمُونَ بِأَلْسِنَتِنَا بِعَظَائِمِ اللهِ؟».
Acts 2:11
How can they invade the lands if they are the same people?
The trouble is believing the creation myth putting the creation of Islam in Mecca when most of the evidence points to Petra as the starting point.
I would stop using Allah and say Yah, Yahweh, or Jesus. Allah was a specific name Mohammed used for his false deity.
this is why cliff left their debate, he kept going around in circles lol
Exactly
Knowing that debating a liar is no point
lol, going in circles just like in kaaba!
2 Timothy 2:23
English Standard Version
23 Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels.
can someone link that debate with askcliff
he clearly was not an “ex christian” 😭💀 he lied he can’t even get the basics rights
They ALL lie.
He is a muslim. Of course he lied about being Christian.
If he had got the basics right he would have never left Christianity...so he is ignorant about the basics
@@solomonthomas7444 you know about TAQIYA...he is lying
Timestamp pretty please?
If having a son is a sign of weakness then creating people is a sign of weakness 🤷🏻♂️
Having someone share your power is weakness, comparing somone to the ALL powerful god is blasphemy even in Christianity but they give Jesus Christ a free pass 😂
@@amrfaragalla5145 Christ isn’t “sharing power” Jesus Christ is God, saying otherwise is blasphemy. We believe in one god.
@@NicBob89 Christianity's logic self destructs bro and everyone knows that. If there is a son the was begotten from a father then they are obviously 2 different people, the only arguments that I hear against this statement is "they are still connected but distinct beings" makes no sense cause a person is his soul so 2 souls = 2 different people. Second one I hear " Gods power is so huge that we can't even comprehend it" while I agree with the statement it's self but disagree when is said as a solution to the trinity thing because it goes against simple logic, if I were to say to god to draw a square circle in no way that was going to be possible because the options are 1. Full circle is drawn, problem is it's not a square. 2 full square is drawn, problem is it's not a circle. 3 half a square is drawn and the other half is a circle, that sale is neither a square or a circle because defection of circle is shape that has 0 sides. Square means it has 4 sides so it is literally impossible.
@@amrfaragalla5145 I’m not sure what you’re trying to say, because it’s incoherent. Perhaps before accusing others of being illogical, you should look at yourself and reflect on your own shortcomings. If you would like to know more about Christianity, speak to a priest or do so with genuine humility instead of boastful arrogance, attempting to ridicule others when you are the one that is trying to understand. I believe in one God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. They are three distinct hypostases but one being. My best way to represent it in human terms would be the human brain, which includes the left, the right and the connecting pieces. Each piece of the brain actually acts and thinks independently but the brain works in unison with itself as one thing. All pieces are the brain and have equal value. If you lobotomise someone, they will be able to draw two different things with their different hands because the two halves of their brains are not in sync.
@@NicBob89 but we are not our brains or neurons, we are the soul in a physical body which with in it is a brain that we use to think. Also the argument you made just proves what I am saying, you are saying that god the father is responsible for something and the son responsible for something of which is equal value and same with the spirit, which means the each of those are dependent on the other 2 to be complete which makes no sense because god is independent. I know your argument is he is dependent if it's the same person but again you claim they are distinct beings controlled on their own. Inside each one of use is a soul that is not divided, the body it's self yes but spirit no, and so is god's spirit one single not divided soul.
Pastor Cliffe is on the side of Jesus so he cannot be destroyed nor lose because he operates from the place of victory. When we are in Christ we are already winners🏆🎉🏆
Amen, Godlogics crew, tends to offer title click baiting, for clout and subscribers. If he had 0 followers on RUclips, it would legitimately hurt him.
@@adrianjimenez6034he put destroyed in inverted commas so it’s not because he agrees w it it’s bc some ppl says it there kinda mocking ppl who say cliffe got destroyed obvs cliffe didn’t get destroyed bc Christ Jesus is Lord
Just as the comment before already made it clear, the inverted commas or apostrophe (I don't know the correct name for the symbols😊), already let's you know they were making a mockery of the muslims who claimed this muslim "destroyed" Cliff, even though we know he didn't.
@@MrLifeline01 yep
@@airlessjungle8552 hey guys I did not misunderstood the title GL put in there infact I felt he purposely put it to kinda be like sarcastic to the mussi guy....Avery is a soldier for Christ and ❤ him.
He is not honest and I don't think he ever was a Christian..
Yup he's lying and he's encouraged to do so for his cult.
@@ΑναστάσηςΠαππάς-σ1ψ This Muslim claimed to be a Christian @34:04 right. For the record being religious doesn't make you a Christian. Growing up in a church , being baptized, youth group etc it all doesn't matter if you never had a personal relationship with Jesus Christ!! If you never encountered the holy spirit and felt the love of God , you can't truly call yourself a Christian to be honest
He never was a Christian 1 John 2 mentions it .
Salvation is a free gift and God chooses his people, cause the lord knows who are his and no one can snatch them out of his hands .
Jhn 10:14 I am the good shepherd: and I know mine, and mine know me.
Jhn 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, and I know the Father: and I lay down my life for my sheep.
Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have that are not of this fold: them also I must bring. And they shall hear my voice: And there shall be one fold and one shepherd.
Jhn 10:27 My sheep hear my voice. And I know them: and they follow me.
Jhn 10:28 And I give them life everlasting: and they shall not perish for ever. And no man shall pluck them out of my hand.
Jhn 10:29 That which my Father hath given me is greater than all: and no one can snatch them out of the hand of my Father.
Jhn 10:30 I and the Father are one.
2Ti 2:19 But the sure foundation of God standeth firm, having this seal: the Lord knoweth who are his; and let every one depart from iniquity who nameth the name of the Lord.
I do not care that he went to Church , I don’t care that said that he studied , the question is Does he know the Gospel? He never mentioned that ! That right there proves he just wants to be wise according to his folly .
It’s real sad to see Ray so full of deception. I will pray to my lord and savior Jesuschrist to help him see the truth.
They can't agree that God can have a SON since it will collapse Islam by proving that Jesus is God
Exactly right
what's crazy is islam believe that Jesus will come back, defeat the anti christ and then will live for forty years which in his forty years he will live and also get married and may have children!.... so perhaps they dont agree now that the Christian's god "Jesus" cant have a son, but when Jesus comes back he will show them Muslims that he can have a son... if he can have a son... wait I'm confused now!.... hey, Jesus is god, right? RIGHT! yea you're right, Muslims cant agree that Jesus can have a son!
YES, absolutely! They need to demote Yeshua to give Him less importance. Even satan knows fully well who Yeshua is and Muslims refuse to accept it! When a person comes out of Islam their eyes are literally opened and they see what we see! An ex Muslim who comes out of Islam demonstrates the love they've for Yeshua and it's truly amazing, 🙏! 👑👑👑
Exactly. The eyes of a Muslim are blinded to spiritual things. They can't think beyond a limited Allah, because they will often excuse it by saying we don't know Allah's greatness, that means his limited whereas in The Bible Gods shows his greatness through Jesus.
God can not have a son. Never ever.
God having a son means God would have created another God.But thats a paradox. God is uncreated.
I found you from Ananda Apologetics. Take care and God bless☦️
“I will let you finish your sentence and I’ll wait a second until you are finished to respond”
Not even 5 minutes later he starts interrupting 😂😂
@JesusLovesU-k8zstop lies version and translation is different
Extreme lack of sincerity. Came out lying from the get go.
I was Born into a Christian Family, ive Been Going to church 5+ times a Week since i was 5, im 29 now..Had Bible School from 5 - 15, 6 days a Week and once a week from 15-27 Years Old, i gave my life to Jesus 1 and a Half Years Ago, so Going to Church being around Priests, and Teachers doesnt make you a Christian. Repentence and Giving your life to Jesus makes you a Christ-Follower(Christian).
Just Kinda Bugs Me When someone born into A Christian Family or someone that Went to Church For a While Calls Himself a Christian yet Has Never known Jesus for a Second of his Life, its Hypocritical and Needs to be Called Out everytime.
Sounds like you're one of these people you are describing. " You were born into a Christian family ".
Do scriptures say you have to do all that stuff to be saved?
Facts many who say they’re Christian don’t even know the right sabbath
hahahha good logic.. what 4 days a week just talking about nothing or just lies??
@@SoutheastTx This Comment wasnt ment to tell ppl how to be Saved, i was making a Point that Going to Church and Bible study school doesnt make you a Christian, A Relationship with Jesus Does, and to answer your Question Only Faith in Jesus Christ and His Work on The Cross Saves..
As a pious Jew, Jesus embraced the same religion as Moses.
He did not bring a new religion nor a new way of worshiping his Lord his God who is also our Lord our God.
He offered worship in synagogue. He did not build church and perform the worship the way the Christians did.
He came NOT TO ABOLISH THE LAW. Not an iota of it.
Whenever a Muslim comes up and says "I am not an expert, so let's have a respectful conversation", I now know that they are saying that to save face in case they get cooked afterwards.
Agree
@stephenadelakun well I'm like an expert see if u or that fool could cook me cuz yall get ur pom poms out rooting for a dude that sits there and lies to u about someone else's religion, I can disect his whole strategy along with urs. U sit around following ppl instead of reading th8ngs ur damn self, he gets his stuff from Sam shamoun and David wood and yall follow this clown like he know something about islam cuz he mentions a name yall know nothing about, cuz he say ibn katheer u guys get all butterflies in ur stomach and pay close attention when he's lying to ur face, listen to his words go look up his references and fact check them, I guarantee u he's lying but he feast off dumb ignorant ppl who don't put the work in, don't look up what he's saying to see if it's facts, saying God in the Quran can't be God cuz he needs a mate to produce a son, not that he can't it's that there is no mate, if he created a mate it wouldn't be suitable for him to have a son with something he CREATED and if there was a goddess he wouldn't be all supreme being which he is and in no need of a spouse or a son he is the creator of everything... and if he had a son he would be God and his mom too but this is all human characteristics mom's dad's sons all that is for humans God has no children he has no mate, his mate would have had to already existed having no beginning and his son could not have been his son cuz God has no beginning and no end so had he had a son his son would have a beginning excluding him from being God and his mate would have been his equal diminishing God to be a small g God cuz he wouldn't be God God big God who is the ALL SUPREME BEING having no equal if he had a mate who was his equal having no beginingcand no end
@stephenadelakun But if he created his mate and she had a beginning then that means she has an end excluding her from being worthy of having a son with God, but the point is it all sounds stupid cuz u won't catch God having a son, it is beneath him to have a son, EVERYTHING IS HIS CREATION even the prophets and angels he called sons. And Jesus is no different, e is the word of God cuz he was made from God's words BE AND IT IS" KUN FAYA KUN" IN ARABIC that's what made Jesus the word, and when it says the word was with God he wasn't talking about Jesus, he's talking about his attribute of speech literally, his speech is not created but is eternal as it is an attribute of Allah to have speech. But saying Jesus is the word and only word of Allah sounds crazy, Allah had speech before Jesus ever was born cuz he was born he came out of a vagina, he was human and people seen him with their own eyes... excluding him from being God and we already established God does not have no sons having no mate, having established that go do ur homework and stop letting other people dictate what u believe, ur soul is at stake u can't be that freaking careless
@@TheAngryMuslim stup.. , do you watch the vid , if yes see it again. Avery does not mind what you said he agree God have all power , the main this is ,status does not make you don't have ability this the way you said " he can't have this or that coz don't have mate"
@@TheAngryMuslimMost of your arguments already been addressed in this video.
"Cant be that careless"
I agree convert to the Catholic Church then.
Islam, the religion where your own interpretation is above the people who walked with your so called ‘prophet’ muhammad. 👏
If you gonna say " so called prophet Muhammad" then prove he wasn't a prophet bro then you can say so called prophet
Please say "allahu akbar!" ☝
@@akeeljulien2556 He just doubled it 😁👍 It can be enough
@@akeeljulien2556 Matthew 24:23-24
‘At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.’
@@maiknagradic1157 Yeshua akbar✝️☝️
" Find me an honest Muslim and I'll show you an ex-Muslim ".
Tell me to find someone who makes no sense, and I'll point to your comment. 🤣🤣🤣
@@debunker_letsGO no it actualy makes sense because an ex muslim understands the disgust of islam and its lies and horrible teachings
@@debunker_letsGO You do that please.
@@vamingxiong4376Don't respond insult with insult. It's not what our Lord wants. Just keep silent when people like this respond, they just want to insult and degrade your credibility as a person so they can then say "look this guy thinks he's so good but he insult people his God isn't real"
@@debunker_letsGOyou follow a PDFile. How lost your are...
This shows that Islam lacks truth
Indeed
They’re not allowed to have a critical thinking mind, cuz “they don’t question Allah”
@@kachiannuncia because you say it does? Lol ok
@@tayeelshaikh9228 because we all see that it does
Islam nothing truth to tell
No one can make sense out of nonsense-this is why Islam fails without lies.
Fastest growing religion. Over 2 bilion people must be. Deceived😂
@@Teachr. Fastest growing by birth not conversion to Islam
@@SkeletonBean10bla bla your church’s empty and turning into mosques
@@SkeletonBean10he thought he cooked 😂
@@SkeletonBean10he don’t realize his religion is a trend and ours isn’t
Godlogic you have incredible patience and kindness. Praying for your continued walk with God and only becoming better at what you do!
This is what is going to happen as usual, Logic asks a Simple question Muslim will be dishonest like all the others
Exactly.
Exactly
Mohammed was jealous of Christ and made his own religion to worship himself.
That’s exactly what happened too
@@airgo24dlamini37 Abdools aka the Muslim shuffle.
Islam is based on this one simple fact - Out of all the people in the world, the author of Qurans chose a PDF file to speak for him.
Yea, but as a Christian that shouldn’t be a reason to say he’s false, David, Simon the zealot, Paul all were not great people at some point in time and are seen as some of the most important figures in the scriptures (I’m a Christian) it’s either if the words from who so called prophets is true or not, so attacking Muhammad wouldn’t make his message false more the fact what he preached directly goes against all the previous prophets and the son of God Jesus Christ
Maybe it's part of the Microsoft theme related to the profit
@@flavioflores1732and we follow NONE of them, while muhammad is a product of conduct for all mankind, and Christians follow Jesus only.
@@samiraabuseryou both raise good points!
@@flavioflores1732but none of those people claim to be the moral example for mankind 😂 your argument would make sense otherwise. On top of that Muslims baselessly disbelieve in the Bible and dont believe prophets are sinners, both ridiculous beliefs
Islam dies when the truth begins
Fastest growing religion.
@@ibrahimparkar6900fastest breeding religion. 😂😂😂
@@ibrahimparkar6900 allah also dive down fast to lick my 💩 for iftar in ramzan ❤
@@ibrahimparkar6900 I want to convert Islam. How?
@@razorgaming-fy4xr
Visit the nearest mosque thats the best thing.
Or if you want to keep it personal we just declare our faith.
Its better to say it in Arabic because Islam was finalized in Arabic
"Ash Shadoo an La ilaha illa Allah, Wa Ash Shadoo ana Muhammadan rasoolu Allah."
The translation of which is:
"I bear witness that there is no true god except God (Allah), and I bear witness that Muhammad is the (Final) Messenger of God."
After this try learning how to pray and try to follow the 5 pillar of Islam and have faith in the 6 pillars of faith.
May Allah guide us.
God bless you bro for your ministry
Big love ❤❤
This Muslim is being wilfully ignorant because he knows he can’t win this debate.
Bingo. He conceited in the first minute of the debate. I automatically knew how it was going to go after he had to make that clear.
@@ag2407it's to cover up their future confusion and lies. It doesn't work but it makes them feel better.
@@TinnyDee Is Jesus considered God in the flesh, and how does this concept work? If that is the case, are you not essentially worshipping the physical form, similar to how pagans worship statues, claiming that these statues contain a divine spirit? In reality, this seems to stem from an inability to grasp the transcendent nature of God, leading individuals to turn to something tangible that they can see and touch.
@@mersalsalem811God revealed to us in flesh is Jesus. Jesus is not a weakness
Exactly
Logic absolutely DESTORYS him
He really didnt… its common sense it says how can god have a child when he has no mate.. meaning there is no one on allahs level he is one so how can he have children… its not that he needs a mate its just to god its telling the humans who understand a child is from 2 people…. Telling them he look you know im only 1 i have no mate so how can you even think i have a child?
@@xArABIAnGhOsTx according to the text, what is the proof that allah does not have a child?
The very few min in he destroyed him, godlogic is brilliant
@@beastff3228 he really didnt destroy him he just not understanding in full what hes being told…. Dudes interpreting the verse as allah saying he needs a mate thats not what it is sayin…. In simple terms its saying how can god have a child when you dont see 2….. allah is 1 there isnt another being on allah level therefore how can people think allah can have children when there is only 1 the whole point is how can it cross your mind in the first place that god can have children when hes 1 ….. ofc by definition god is all powerful and can do anything if he so willed… but the point is from human eyes how can you even think god has children when you know god has no partners, mates , siblings… and regardless god having a child 1st wouldnt that child also be a god, 2nd wouldnt be with a human.. this isnt greek mythology
@@beastff3228 the whole point of it saying mate… is bc how can people think allah has children if allah has no mate… meaning allah is 1 you know allah is 1 so therefore there is no mate therefore no children….. if a human sees a child automatically they will assume oh male and female…. Allah is 1 and everyone knows it so how can you think of allah having children when there is no mate(you dont see a second being comparable to allah)
The young man is living proof that pride comes before the fall. Hopefully he returns to Christ.
We love Christ what you talking about 😂😂
@@khaledmar You love a false version of Christ.
@@vaderkurt7848you are commenting a lot, I can tell you’re miserable in the real world
@khaledmar
You can not love Christ and follow mo. The isa you believe in, is not the same as the Yeshua of the Bible. Just like the al.lah you believe in, is not the same as the God Jews and Christians worship.
@@khaledmar You love Isa. Not Christ. Unless you want to refer to him as Yasua Ibn Allah, you're referring to someone else when you say Christ as this person is not the same as what you believe he is in the islamic paradigm.
Without lies Islam dies.
No
Doglogics community beeing pied pipered till day of judgement
Okay, tell me, in what way Jesus is son?
Intercourse?
Father created him?
Adoptation?
Tell me another way of Jesus being a son of God??
Why do all Muslim debaters have to be so slippery? 7 minutes on what is befitting? This dude starts out pretending to just want a good discussion and then a few minutes in he starts getting irritated?
That’s what happens when the dawah script runs out. 😂
That's what they all do
He even said he doesn't know a son
If Allah was exalted over having a son then why doesn't he simply say that? He could have just said I do not have a son because this is not what I desire to do. Done. End of discussion.
But instead he chooses to say he doesn't have a son because he has no partner to mate with. Logic is rightfully concluding what Allah is saying.
I don't get why this Muslim is always running circles around straightforward logic.
Yea they do that. Pretend they just want to have a discussion when they definitely want to "win" the unwinnable side of a debate. Which is impossible so it devolves into slippery nonsense.
Christians give charity to everyone, also muslims. Muslims give charity to muslims
Exactly.
Lies. A Google search will despail this.
@@telvinphiri1620 Prove it, Sheik Google. Clown
They steal from Christians to give charity to Muslims 😂
@@telvinphiri1620 go ahead google and show us where
Oh dearest AVERY, The Lord Almighty has blessed u with unlimited patience intelligence are a true warrior for Christ. Love n respect u and all the other warriors. Hindu grandma from South Africa
“I will let you finish your sentence and wait a second until you are finished to respond” that aged like milk 😭😭
Spoil milk 😂😂😂😂
He rather started overtalking GodLogic. He came in acting like he was going to be "peaceful", "respectful" & "honest" and then proceeded to show his true colors 5 mins afterwards. Without lies, islam dies.
Muslim strategies @@kobbyscratch5799
@@kobbyscratch5799 I pray every muslim find Jesus and can be saved before it is too late
GodLogic has the best barbecues around, the way he cooks these guys
Even reading the passages apologetics brought up as is, literally, read a couple of verses more, and it dismantles Apologetics' claims. Read 6:100-6:102, 39:4, and 43:81-43:85.
In summary, without context, just a literal interpretation, it reinstates the absolute oneness of God and how everything else would be a creation of God, unlike God. It also indicates that if God had a son, then it would be 2.
I am sure Apologetics deliberately leaving out these few follow up passages.
He didn't "destroy" Cliffe. He just didn't want to listen to Cliffe's answers.
Exactly,
Of course and I think Avery is being sarcastic saying He destroyed Cliff.
@@ndjibukabengele973 Warning: the quotation in a sentence means the Muslim claim that he did that to Cliff, and not of what Every, subtitle writer, think...
Or cliffe did not learn enough Muslim lies
Thank you for doing this. The world needs to see these discussions to decide for themselves by reading and listening. God bless.
Dude laid ground rules to how the discussion was supposed to go and broke his own rule countless times
He didn’t seem to want to learn like he said. He wanted to debate like he said he didn’t want to do 🤷🏼♂️
@@TheLoveofGod316exactly
That what they call "Taqya" in islam
They are allowed to lie
It's a stronghold..Muslims believe a lie so strongly, it need supernatural power to break it. You are breaking it...great job. God is with you
The muslim gentleman was completely dishonest. His tactics, which we've seen many times, were based on semantics. He could not give definitive answers and always threw up smokescreens by way of having to define everything. Reminds me of Mansur and Hashim from Speaker's Corner in London.
The thing is he first says he needs a definition (son) but then to make his point he suddenly knows what a son is (a human child) which is false. He also went on and on.. it’s a tactic to make your opponent confused and forget what they were even on about. He also just lied about the whole Quran thing
He also interpreted the Quran after saying he’s a layman 😹
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🦅🦅
I love this debates the more we talk about Islam the more ppl get curious..the more they read about the more converts!!!
Muslim: I will not interrupt you in any way. Then proceeds to interrupt him
Without lies...
@@admanassas1853Islam dies
God logic was soft on that guy. I would not be soft and I will stop when the lies are spoken just like CP. Tell him, I would not let you speak unless you answer my Questions. Muslims needs strong people to give them shock and wake them up just like Fr. Butros says. SHARP, SHORT, SHOCK! Electric Shock!
Its all to lower your guard as their prophet did. They are ruled by fear, shame, cowardice and intellectual deficiency, so like a petulant child they lie, moan and bully cry when the inevitably comes.
I'm Christian but I think they both interrupted each other at some point 😂
Personally when I watch videos like this I listen to both "arguments" so to see if there was understanding in the replies and reasoning applied to the questions in both ends. Because at the end of the day it's about getting to learn the truth.
He's delusional after the smack down he received from Cliffe.
I know, Cliffe isn’t even an apologist too, he’s a preacher.
Oh, him and his friend Anus told all their little 10 year followers that they did so they just believe them.
@MuhamedCerimovic it's obvious that you're quite clueless to what Christians believe.
The quran says the Bibel is God's Word and that God's word cannot be changed.
@@MuhamedCerimovicyou misunderstand the triune Nature of God. Jesus is fully God and fully human. Mary is the mother of Jesus' human nature, not of His divine nature. Likewise, when Jesus died on the cross, His soul didn't die.
This Muslim is being well marinated can’t wait for the chef to start cooking!!!
😂😂😂😂
He stirred fried this abdool 😂.
Cringe
😂🤣
He’s playing with his food like a cat and mouse.
Godlogic...you are amazing, inspiring and people like you make me so proud to be Christian. You are patient and humble and meticulous and educated and learned and not arrogant and honest and kind.
Cliffe decided to quit the debate coz this guy was going around in circles
No he just couldn’t answer? 😂
That's what I think too...this guy was just like any other Muslim, who was going around in circles...wasn't getting anywhere.
@@AmelaObradovac If you can't see a cycle of Muslims that go round in circles without listening, without acknowledging and repeating the same thing AFTER LENGTHY discussions of CLEAR answers. You're a clown. We see this alot.
@@shincy503 nah cliffe just didn't know what to say
@@akeeljulien2556really? Whenever cliffe destroys him on one topic he jumps to another topic LOL
This Muslim claimed to be a Christian @34:04 right. For the record being religious doesn't make you a Christian. Growing up in a church , being baptized, youth group etc it all doesn't matter if you never had a personal relationship with Jesus Christ!! If you never encountered the holy spirit and felt the love of God , you can't truly call yourself a Christian to be honest
Truth as clear as Crystal 🔮✨, you can be a church goer without being a Christian, Christianity is following the life of JESUS CHRIST, not expecting 72 virgins for sex in jana
This guy's just another typical m00slim playing this game. They KNOW they can do TAQQIYA and it is halal (permitted). I don't believe he was a Christian for 1 nano second. If you listen to CP and Sam Shamoum, you will see how it seems that THERE ARE NO MORE CRADLE m00slims left. It's like 70 - 80% "former Christians." I am sick and tired of it and it makes me respect them A LOT LESS.
You know "good religion" is found in James, right? Religion means way of life, you most certainly need to be religious to have a relationship with God because living religiously demonstrates faith, God is faithful and so should we be.
@@cz5836 yes that's true ,but that comes after words. None of that stuff matters if you never had a relationship with Jesus Christ is what im saying because being religious does not save you at the end of the day my friend
@@asalrxa a proper relationship includes faithfulness. Just because we are not justified or saved by our own works, real belief or faith is demonstrated by living religiously. People of your mindset tend to think they can keep sinning on purpose but the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. We must work out our faith with fear and trembling.
This why Cliff didn’t wanna argue with him bc he goes around and around in circles not making any good statements 💀
Yes Just do drama as always, at the end it always just drama, and victimize either him/her self ( I not expert , define son , suddenly don't knows all things)
Yes this Muslim kid personally said he doesn't have that much knowledge but he keeps interrupting and also ruining the anology cus he knows where it's going hays
True, he didnt make any sense and was not listening thats why Cliff didnt kept going.
Facts
Ciff stopped because he can smell pork and he didn’t want to lose his jewelry to him.😂
There is a "son" without flesh as a person, a distinction inside God, but in no other way; it's in eternity, "before" creation as well. Love requires a receiver. God is love, in Bible.
Thanks! Avery Praise God for your zeal , may you grow strong in the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ
May allah praise u
You just paid for his groceries you have been scammed
@@mohammadmehmood3405 you and all other muslims have been scammed by mohammad
@@mohammadmehmood3405 Yes Mohammad you are right It was intended for Avery's groceries. Please note your Quran 8:30 says Allah is the greatest Scammer! you have been scammed.
@@mohammadmehmood3405 Hi Mohammad you are right! It was intended for Avery's groceries. The real scammer is mentioned in the Quran 8:30, It's you who have been scammed!
This Muslim was manipulative from beginning once he said he will let Avery talk and be respectful without cutting him off, which he didn't even do. Not even 3 minutes into discussion and he already disrespected by cutting him off and speaking over him. Typical Muslim tactic... smh. Why do they all do this? Jesus christ is LORD.
Probably because the others were either being dishonest or hypocritical. Hard to have a discussion on a topic if one person changes the argument or doesn't understand it.
They do it because they are up themselves. According to Surah 9:29 they think everyone should submit to them. It doesn’t get much more satanic than that.
@@nunya54lol dishonest when it was "clearly "in the Quran that he can't have a Son if he doesn't have a mate which the Muslim said he can't cus he can't go against his nature but got contradicted later on cus it is also in the Quran that he can if he wanted to lol
@@angelotrippy That's not a contradiction. Is that like in the Bible when it says God can't be contained by the heavens but then he can be contained by less than that?
@@nunya54 no god says hes bigger than the heavens not that it CANT contain he just doesnt allow it he also said hell is endless and bottomless but hes said hes bigger than that so try again
When an Abdool says he was a former Christian and “I swear to God I was,” I just don’t buy it.
They're encouraged to lie
You didn't know christians become muslim more than muslims becoming christians?
Then you know he is lying. Thats a selling pitch to create a false sense of having common grounds between you in order for you to start thinking and evaluate your faith.
”Swear to God” is the last giveaway he is NOT, nor ever where, a Christian:
”But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne. Nor by the earth; for its his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great king.” (matt. 5:34)
@@david9243 very good point. A believing Christian does not swear to God like that nor make oaths in such a manner. He doesn’t have to.
@@JulianLife81 it is actually true, u can confirm it ur self
The Quran says the Bible is the word of God. The Bible says God has a Son. So, how, according to Islam is this an impossible hypothetical?
“I will not interrupt you”.. He interrupts every second meaning. He need the Holy Spirit to guide him..
I was going to say something like this.... And a couple of times he literally kept speaking right through Avery, even when Avery was saying "Let me finish".
I from Malaysia jesus christ is the only salvation.🥰 Not Isa Islamic
🇲🇾✝️
Amen 🙏
😂
Ru a Malay muslim?
@@wicommsI from east Malaysia, Sarawak.
I am chinese Christian,most of chinese are Christian here but other half is Buddha....❤
Amen❤️
So the conclusion of this discussion is that the god of Mohammad and the Quran is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, The God of the Bible. Excellent. Thank you
Y do muslims want their god to be our God?
A dawah tactics to bring people to their filty cult that's why. But they know the truth, yet deny it.
@@1voiceCriesOutbecause even they don't believe it is the same god. 😂
@@I.Kat.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Muslim interrupt: 17 Christian interruptions:9
This Muslim is not capable of a logical conversation
Trinity stands on 0 logic
@RobinRoo-t9h Nobody with a low IQ will ever understand The Trinity.
No logic in lies. Only deception
@@RobinRoo-t9hyou follow a warlord illiterate pdf file who spread his cult with the sword, Muslims have 0 logic
@@RobinRoo-t9h God is not logical my Muslim brother, He does not make sense. We are talking about God here not a man!
This Muslim dude got busted, it reminds me of my debate with them. A Muslim said to me there are good and bad things in the Bible , and I said ok can you show me one good thing in the Quran ? He said to me define good and I said what definition of good were you using to say the Bible has good things , use that same standard, and up to today we still are waiting for the definition of good and then the examples
Minute 7:50 quran said how alah can have a son when he doesn't have a spouse? 😅 So this dawah is full of garbage. 😂 By the way this famous verse quran plagirased from Jewish Talmudic story in Kohelet Rabah 4:8. There is said: how God can have a son when He doesn't have a brother, since He have no brother, how he can have a son.
So it's similar but not the same, right? Pay attention, Alen Segel in his research said that original text was: how God can have a son if He have no wife, and he found 4 sources older than Kohelet Rabah that said so.
References:
Google: Sefaria Kohelet Rabah
Two powers on Heaven, p 140-141 Alen Segel
Middle-easter, old world mind games. What a filthy thing to be subjected to.
Good things in the Quran:
1. Don't lie (22:30)
2. Don't spy (49:12)
3. Don't exult (28:76)
4. Don't insult (49:11)
5. Don't waste (17:26)
6. Feed the poor (22:36)
7. Don't backbite (49:12)
8. Keep your oaths (5:89)
9. Don't take bribes (27:36)
10. Honour your treaties (9:4)
11. Restrain your anger (3:134)
12. Don't spread gossip (24:15)
13. Think good of others (24:12)
14. Be good to guests (51:24-27)
15. Don't harm believers (33:58)
16. Don't be rude to parents (17:23)
17. Turn away from ill speech (23:3)
18. Don't make fun of others (49:11)
19. Walk in a humble manner (25:63)
20. Respond to evil with good (41:34)
21. Don't say what you don't do (62:2)
22. Keep your trusts & promises (23:8)
23. Don't insult others' false gods (6:108)
24. Don't deceive people in trade (6:152)
24. Don't take items without right (3:162)
25. Don't ask unnecessary questions (5:101)
26. Don't be miserly nor extravagant (25:67)
27. Don't call others with bad names (49:11)
28. Don't claim yourselves to be pure (53:32)
29. Speak nicely, even to the ignorant (25:63)
30. Don't ask for repayment for favours (76:9)
31. Make room for others at gatherings (58:11)
32. If enemy wants peace, then accept it (8:61)
33. Return a greeting in a better manner (4:86)
34. Don't remind others of your favours (2:264)
35. Make peace between fighting groups (49:9)
36. Lower your voice and talk moderately (31:19)
37. Don't let hatred cause you to be unjust (6:108)
38. Don't ask too many favours from people (2:273)
39. Greet people when entering their home (24:27)
40. Be just, even against yourself & relatives (4:135)
41. Speak gently, even to leaders of disbelief (20:44)
42. Don't criticize small contributions of others (9:79)
43. Don't call the Prophet how you call others' (24:63)
44. Try to make peace between husband & wife (4:128)
45. Don't call the Prophet from outside his rooms (49:4)
46. Opprression/corruption is worse than killing (2:217)
47. Preach to others in a good and wise manner (16:125)
48. Don't accuse others of immorality without proof (24:4)
49. Consider wives of the Prophet like your mothers (33:6)
50. Don't raise your voice above that of the Prophet's (49:2)
51. Don't call someone a disbeliever without knowing (4:94)
52. Seek permission before entering someone's room (24:59)
53. Know your enemies can become your close friends (41:34)
54. Don't wrongly consume the wealth of the vulnerable (4:29)
55. Don't turn your cheek away from people in arrogance (31:18)
56. Forgive others, as you would like Allah to forgive you (24:22)
57. Seek Prophet's permission when leaving his gathering (24:62)
58. Don't hold secret meetings for sin, rather do so for piety (58:9)
59. Don't order others to do good while forgetting it yourself (2:44)
60. Be patient with your teacher & follow his instructions (18:67-69)
61. Don't frown, turn away or neglect those who come to you (80:10)
62. If unable to help a needy person, at least speak nice words (17:28)
63. Be lenient to those under you, and consult them in matters (3:159)
64. Verify information from a dubious source before acting upon it (49:6)
65. Don't remain in the Prophet's home unnecessarily after a meal (33:53)
66. Those who can should continue to spend on those less fortunate (24:22)
67. Don't enter homes without permission & return if refused entry (24:27-28)
68. Don't sit with those who mock religion until they change the subject (4:140)
69. Say it's not appropriate to talk of slander when it's mentioned to you (24:16)
70. If required to ask the Prophet's wives, then do so from behind a screen (33:53)
71. Divorce in an amicable manner instead of keeping & harming your wife (2:231)
72. Punish in an equivalent manner to how you were harmed or be patient (16:126)
73. Differences in color & language are signs of Allah, not means of superiority (49:13)
74. Don't take women by force, nor take back bridal gift without a valid reason & live with them in kindness (4:19)
@@RobinRoo-t9h lol, the Quran says you can lie to your wife , to your Christians and jews so is that a contradiction?, dude your message is long but all contradicting, pick your top 5 and let me refute them from the same Quran
@@RobinRoo-t9h Quran 49:12 don’t lie don’t spy? Does Islam believe in freewill ? Can you do something Allah didn’t make you do ? Your god is a messenger Quran 69:40 and he is a sinner Sahih Muslim 2658 a
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying. Allah fixed the very portion of adultery which a man will indulge in. There would be no escape from it. So you just proved your god to be fake , Allah was the one who made Adam and Lucifer to sin , so you should be telling Allah don’t lie don’t steal don’t spy . What a contradiction
The coping is ridiculous. It seems like the religion is upheld by a vast majority who don't know it very well. If they knew it better, they would be out of it immediately.
Hat God has a Son? God does not need a son. That's ancient Egypt myth level. Paganism is alive and well.
@telvinphiri1620 😅🤣🤣 u think a stone is gonna come back alive and intervene for u
@@telvinphiri1620why do these abdools automatically equate having a son to needing a son? Thats so d*umbbb
Think in logical steps man
The Reason the Quran is only in Arabic, that nobody/most of the Muslim don't understand shows it's not clear. Even Sholar don't give Muslim a clear understanding or Translation in every Language.
So see Sholar lied about the Quran.... Sholar told Muslims for Years there's is only one Quran, but we knows there are around 7 to over 30 Quran Version with different Wording in them... Internet open the eyes of Everybody to falsehoods that Muslim Sholar claims about the Quran.
@@telvinphiri1620well if you know anything about God, it’s that he’s the beginning and the end. So if he’s been there since the beginning, and God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are 1. Then you’re kinda making the same argument atheists make when they say “who created God”. The trinity just existed.
and I get it, you probably grew up Muslim and you run the risk of your family disowning you, and if you’re in a Muslim nation, you could be killed for converting to Catholicism. So I get there’s a lot to lose.
You can’t fully conceptualize who God is and why he did everything that he did right ? So why is it not possible that he just always existed as 1 being and 3 distinct persons the whole time ?
You’re going to use the logic of human standards, but we’re not talking about a human, we’re talking about God. You can’t make an argument against the trinity.
Muslims act like they love Jesus, but it’s deception. You hear so many Muslims say “how can God be so weak to let himself die?”
I will leave you with this question. Imagine you’re being judged by God whether you go to heaven or hell and you ask him that question, and one of his responses were “I wanted to see how people would treat me if I was in front of them as a humble servant”. Jesus is now exalted. And every knee will bow and every tongue will confess he is lord.
Cause to be honest, if you think it’s weak for him to become man, then you’re just like the Pharisees who wanted the messiah to be a warlord.
Crazy part is Jesus does return for his sheep ready to war and battle the antichrist (Muslims messiah). And he will destroy him.
Kyrie Eleison
Amen brother Avery 🙌 🙌 🙌
This young man defeated his own argument by saying that God is to great to put limits on an then processeds to put limits on God by saying he couldn't have a son.
I’m glad I’m not only one that caught that lol
And he keeps repeating his argument all over again
How many time does he have to say Allah is way above of having a son, you Christian’s are the ones putting limits on God by saying God needs a son
@@Blackiexboy This is logically backwards bro. If you don’t see that, it’s so over for Muslims.
It's "too great to"
Dawha script is getting weaker and weaker lol 🤣😆
EVery day
Muslim says he won’t interrupt but can’t go 5 minutes without interrupting lol
And he would just monologue not allowing a response.
That's how they roll...lies lies lies!
It really irritates me they are very rude !!!
He also keep changing the subject and going on rants, lying saying Godlogic said something he didn't, then when trap, he says he knows nothing, so he can't respond.
Abdul states he can't fully understand God. Then he claims to know what indicative power the unkowable being can have. Pick one bro.
Having his camera off really made it easy for him to interrupt 😂.
Islam boy said he just wants to discuss and listen to one another.... 5mins in, he's talking like he's forcing his opinion and not even giving godlogic time to talk/ reply back 😂😂
So true!
That's practically the only way they can win an educated debate
God bless you, GodLogic 🙏
“i won’t cut you off” proceeds to cut off godlogic
Askcliffe took ego out of the equation , they were left bankrupt and angry about it
This Muslim is annoying. He tells him “I will not interrupt and wait a sec and then respond” then proceeds to interrupt him multiple times. So defensive because he’s hurt
Every minute he has to interrupt.
But he promise that 😢 first time at the opening.
Exactly they all do that. 600 years later. Muhammad was envious of Jesu. He knew the stories. That’s why they sound similar. But never was this false prophet mentioned by old treatment prophets. History proves Jesus was crucified. But in Islam there trying to blind the world that was not. So there trying to take over countries with the false beliefs. Sharing it as truth. So they come to other countries spreading false narratives. Perfect stating the narrow is the way. Cause so many will be lost from this false religion. Fastest growing they say. Cause they don’t want you to worship the true God in there land. But it’s not from the them is from the devil himself using them and keeping them blind. But Jesus will stir the ones he knows he called. In dreams and by visions. He can’t be stopped cause he is still living.
Hi Godlogic iam a Christian following you from middle East ❤ God bless you
He's a liar through and through
He thinks he is so smart in defending islam but he does not even know what Allah says in the quran.
This guy who "destroyed" Cliffe has to be one of the biggest flukes in the entire world, when all he did was repeat talking points and Cliffe determined that there was no point in debating.
Never destroyed Cliff, Cliff let him go. If you haven't watched that video please do it.
@@rocksonaidoo I have which is why I say it's a fluke, Muslims took that video, misconstrued it, and perpetuated the narrative that Cliffe somehow got "destroyed" in that "debate". From my observation, that guy was just repeating talking points Cliffe had already addressed, Cliffe then came to conclusion that this guy wasn't worth it and let him go. It's funny that some muslims can be wrong and yet others will support them no matter what, we Christians need this mentality and Christianity will be glorious.
It's also funny how Rain (the muslim) is trying to capitalize on this and gets molly whooped. First, by Theist Brooks then by Godlogic.
What did u understand in the argument? Logic didn't give any argument here.
@@Lucixn1_ I now understand your position
@@rocksonaidoo what’s the name of the video please
This Muslim “politeness” lasted up untill his introduction 😂😂😂
When he couldn’t keep his own word about “not interrupting” then 2 minutes later started interrupting, i knew he was cooked from then on😂
You have a lot of patience GL. God bless.
In one moment he can make a star and then collapse it but can’t ever have a Son?!? Makes sense right without lying.🤥
Why is necessary that God has a Son? If you create a goat do you need to have a goat as a Child too just to get close to the goat and teach it some subliminal message?
@@telvinphiri1620 look at that: an abdool obsessed with goats. Allah has allowed you to boink them. Have fun tonight abdoool!
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21.17
لَوْ أَرَدْنَآ أَن نَّتَّخِذَ لَهْوًا لَّٱتَّخَذْنَٰهُ مِن لَّدُنَّآ إِن كُنَّا فَٰعِلِينَ
law
If
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We intended
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that
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We take
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a pastime,
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surely We taken it
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doers.
WHO IS US ? Is al lah multiperson?
@telvinphiri1620 don't you find it weird that Muhammed conveniently met a spirit in a cave who gave him permission to break every commandment that God sent down to us, as well as those who followed him?
Exactly. Shaking my head
he did not destroy cliffe, he refused to answer cliffe multiple times and kept bringing his point
Difference between Christianity and Islam. We as Christians are called to examine the scripture to question it to gain an understanding of truth to have a relationship with God as He is. Isalm is told to just believe it. Even if it doesn't make sense, don't question god.
If something in the Bible says something that doesn't "make sense," at first glance, but the more you dig in, question it and hold it to a logical standard, search the rest of the scripture it unfolds to make sense and be consistent.
16:50
God has no equivalents,i.e no one is like God, so how he can be beget a son? That is the argument Allah makes in Quran, and that too for argument sake.
E.g can a human have a son with a chimp?
The answer is simply No, because of two reasons. One, humans are far exalted above chimps, and it would be against the honor of human dignity to have a son with chimp even if it was possible to do that. Two, chimps and humans are different in genetics, and hence they can't reproduce.
Woe of Allah be upon you, because of what you associate with him, woe to you, woe to you. Would you ask a human to have son with a chimp? Woe to you, woe to you , how can you say God had a son? when there's none like him. And when you say that, you intend that God has a secret wife that he didn't reveal in the bible, and either she's equivalent to God,or worse she is lower than God, and she had a son with God. I seek refuge in Allah, woe be unto you for what you associate with him.
He left the "Christian faith" to become an expert in swearing.
See how dangerous islam is.
When he got thinking logically, using his brain, he discovered allah to have, in his words, logical fallacy. Instead of asking for light, he rather had to say his thinking, his logic was wrong. Don't underestimate the deception of allah.
May God have mercy on his lost soul.
@@Jesus_is_LORD. did you miss the part where Sam dork is insulting everyone other word. Are you that stupid?
Amen.
@@ImaHaddad You want him to follow the trinity
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It is beyond you, I understand.
It's for spiritual people.
Study the lives of Yeshua and mo, then decide who to believe and follow. It's not hard. But if you're only interested in carnality on earth and in the afterlife, then bow to the pagan god with 3 daughters.
Aramaic word for God is Alaha
This muslim is a sneaky little snake!
🤣🤣🤣but he only hide his head but not the tail🤣
They always do this, tell us God is INFINITE then claims God can't send a Son.
Where's the logic please?
Typical. It's an honor to lie in islam
Typical. It's an honor to lie in Islam
@@jaytruther1908His pride blinds him from the truth.
There is no wisdom, no understanding, no counsel that can prevail against the LORD. Proverbs 21:30
At the name of Jesus, demons flee! But they laugh at all other names used against them.
Jesus Christ
What's so sad Allah is comparing himself to a human being, if Allah is God why is he limited to creating a Son but he can create life , Mary had a son without having a mate but Allah cant weird
That's where I go when debating muslims as well as the verses Avery is using. It's a monumental point.
@@kentracer4129 exactly
@@bwbrucewashington5 if Your God is All Loving why can't he stop loving, Your God is limited.
If ur God Cannot lie why can't he start lying he is limited can't u see. I am usuing the same stupid argument against u, can u just see how bumb this debate was.
@@MohammedFofana-dq8ez you sound and look stupid
@MohammedFofana-dq8ez he is all powerful and he won't go against his nature. He is perfect so he can't lie then because that means he isn't God, don't bring this dumb logic here. God isn't a sinner, he does not sin simply because he is perfect. Think before you speak next time. Imagine you are saying he should stop loving to show he is God. LOL God is love so to stop doing that would go against His very nature. You would understand this if you weren't so spiritually blinded by momo and your moon god
Sad to hear the young man had left the true faith in Christ for Islam.He needs our prayers to return to it.
And there's time. Many people who thinks they're wise and intelligent are proud, but when they actually sees the spirit of Yeshua Hamashiach they get humbled and emotional. This young man can get there but, he needs to humble himself! 👑👑👑
Muslims lie about being former Christian’s. Most times it goes my grandmother was Christian and she took me to church some times.
He has never be Christian just lie
He wasn’t Christian ever
No one can "destroy" Cliffe.
Cliff is pro-choice and believes in human evolution….
The title is quoting Muslims, not GodLogic’s opinion
😂😂He is a protestant so that makes him a heretic
@@kennad99 he is not... he is pro life this guy is talking nonsense i watch all his videos and interviews
who cares about him being an evolutionist? that doesn't negate him being Christian, but yeah, he ain't really that knowledgeable@@isaac7292
Godlogic is doing so great
This is why I love listening to you. I’m not that smart lol but when you speak I’m able to put pieces together and it truly makes me happy.