First, to define a skier's alignment, you must understand the movements and be able to do a correct analysis of the skier's turn. In this movement analysis by the commentator, the MA is incorrect. Sean is using a full shoulder rotation and he is leaning his upper body into every turn to generate a skidded turn that barely engages the ski. My reference to his skiing is from his first run, with his regular alignment stance, which is correct his boot setup is not complete. In the falline freeze frame, Sean's outside knee is cocked behind his other knee and it is in an "A-Frame " stance relative to his inside leg. His legs are not parallel this is plain to see. Therefore if you are using this as a baseline and trying to add cant strips with outward tipping or inward tipping you are making him even worse. The first thing you should do is perform a total biomechanical assessment not just play with 2 plus degrees of under-boot canting, those are huge amounts. The description of the canting is confusing at best and the application the way it is described in this video is backward. The Cantology product to modify boot soles is fine if you know how to use it.
Harald I know you're often in Hintertux. Could you please give me some advice for a good Boot fitter in terms of alignment in the Area Austria/Germany. I would appreciate so much!
Harald, the point of the video was to make him worse in both extremes and look at what 'worse' meant'. It mattered not to me to start with someone who was perfect. I hope to get down to your shop one of these years and compare perspectives. In the meantime, I'll continue to do my best to make the public aware that their lateral stance may not be optimal and to seek out folks like you who can literally set them straight. And thanks for your business.
I always felt it was risky to cant a boot in the shop...you needed to do what you are doing..on the hill to fine tune it... I usually just set the boot in a neutral stance made them a foot bed...and did my best to correct it within the boot. Iam a preacher for footbeds...weighted or unweighted...a must. Great vid!
Great point. And I agree on the footbeds. Essential. As for canting, flat is neutral which is a great place to start. Then fine-tune by experimenting on the hill. Unfortunately, this is not real scalable nor practical for most folks. We have more videos in the works exploring sole angle refinement.
He leans into the turn, and doesn’t angulate so there is too much weight on the inside ski. He needs to balance over his outside ski and angulate to create the necessary edge angle. Also he’s too far forward at the completion of the turn. These combined result in his outside ski washing out
@@CantologyLLC Before, as leaning causes problems with the hip angle messing with getting the legs correct. Correct in getting a properly stacked position to get proper edge angles with proper weight distribution i.e. to the outside ski. He may have canting or alignment issues but first he has to ski stacked and ballanced versus banking/leaning in.
This is canting between the sole of the boot and the binding. Any adjustments made WITHIN the boot, meaning in the interior of the boot where your foot is, is not canting; it's conformance and fit. This includes cuff adjustments which are simply a conformance/fit adjustment for the lower leg. A cant adjustment, that is, an adjustment to the boot sole angle, is made to the outside of the boot shell or between the binding and the ski. Generally, there are four forms of canting: a) plane the boot sole, b) cant wedges sandwiched between removable tread pads (also called solepads, outsoles), c) cant wedges sandwiched between the boot sole and aftermarket lifters, and d) cant wedges sandwiched between the bindings and the top of the ski. Thanks for your question.
Will, do you have any idea why the inside rear mounting screw of a ski binding would persistently pull out of a ski? There seems to be unusual torque force lifting on this screw. This has happened repeatedly with several different skis and bindings, so the skis and bindings do not appear to be the source of the problem. The common elements are the Daleboots and skier. Could this be a result of misalignment? Perhaps one of the master boot fitters you know has encountered this problem and could help with it. Any suggests would be greatly appreciated! //Marshall
Sorry, haven't heard of that problem before, especially where the only common denominator is the boot. I don't see how it could have anything to do with stance. You should definitely go talk to a full service ski shop.
@@CantologyLLC My son, who is a weekend ski patroller in Big Bear, CA, is the one with this nagging problem. Whether its the source of the problem or not, my son’s an engineer and we’ve determined that he does has a significant stance issue. And he’s damaged four pairs of skis so far. Unfortunately, there are no master boot fitters where we live and travel will be necessary. I’ve been checking with other instructors (I teach at Mammoth Mountain) and been watching videos for ideas. My impression is the most knowledgeable boot fitter in the west is Brent Amsbury and we would travel to SLC to have him make an assessment if that’s the best course of action. If there is anyone you know of who can think outside the box about a odd problem like this, we’d appreciate suggestions? //Marshall
@@gogglebro9421 assuming drill size is correct and screw has not been over torqued, another thought is under torqued or not fully seated, which could lead to the binding beating the screw out
The difficulty Sean seemed to have and his comments on what his first canted run felt like was bang on for me! Passenger not pilot ans on constant verge of disaster wrangling my skis. And i always wear out my shoes more toward the outside, never the inside. So this means there's a very good chance I have an inside stance on one or both feet?? That sounds odd to me as I also have always found it much, much more difficult to turn right than left, which always confused me because I am right handed and generally right side dominant. Wow. I can only hope I can make it up to Whistler to get this checked out by one of the shops that carries and installs your product. Are Cantology cants compatible for use with Apex ski boots, which are 2 part, having a chassis and a walking boot that gets strapped in? Also, how much can I adjust for an inside stance using a footbed or some type of wedge inside my boot?
I also wear the outside edges of my shoes down. But I consider myself to have an 'outside' stance because, if un-corrected by cants, I stand naturally with more weight on my outside edges. My cants flatten me out. As for your asymmetry in ease of turning, your stance problems may well be asymmetric. You're right to go get checked out. There are quite a few shops in Whistler than use our products. Sorry, we don't make cants for Apex boots. Their sole design is not compatible. Of course, if you can install third-party lifters on them we do sell cants that are sandwiched between the lifter and the boot sole. I've had very good boot fitters tell me that they can usually safely achieve up to 1 degree of cant within the boot fit and foot bed adjustments. I say "safely' because you don't want to mess too much with the relationship between your foot and your leg, else the ankle is forced into a position it's not happy in. Remember, it's one thing to 'cant' by changing the cuff, the fit, and/or the foot bed, and get to somewhere that looks correct in the shop. It's another to ski all day on an ankle that is forced to be out of its natural, neutral alignment. My philosophy is to get the fit exactly right with foot neutral in the boot and cuff, and then worry about any lateral stance correction.
@@CantologyLLC brilliant and helpful reply. I agree completely with you, particularly your point about keeping the ankle in a neutral natural position; everything is so connected in the body and just one joint out of whack can wreak havoc I don't need. Thank you for clarifying a bit regarding inside and outside stance. Common sense told me I would have an outside stance as I stand more on the outside of my feet, but somehow in the video I heard that standing that way means you have an inside stance. If I mis-heard, I apologize! I bought a pair of apex boots to try on and they don't work for me so I'll be going back to my salomons for the time being. And those likelu have a better chance of being "cant-able"! Thank you kindly again for your reply.
There are dozens of ways to turn a pair of skis. Do what works for you as the slopes you tackle get steeper. Watch Cody Townsend ski the steeps. At some point, he has to hop both skis!
IMO, it's not a hard and fast rule. I think it works one way but not the other. If you are bowlegged, you probably weight your outside edges too much. But, again, IMO, there can be other factors that result in too much weight on outside edges. I, personally, have an outside stance, but my legs do not appear bowlegged. This is a topic I intend to explore in future videos. One of the first things a top boot fitter does, is examine the customer's foot for flexibility. Some folks are naturally stiff and others are crazily flexible. This helps them determine how to make a great fit for that person; do they move the boot or do they move the foot? I think that huge variations in flexibility from person to person exists for ankles, knees, hips, too. And this factors into where your weight ends up, laterally. Stay tuned.
This is, at best, half accurate. The second portion of the experiment DOES show a sloppy, skiddy skier becoming sloppier and skiddier. And that may well be a problem for some substantial proportion of the skiing public. However, the first portion of the experiment just shows a skier that is so reliant on his "skidiness" that he is unable to benefit from or be comfortable with a ski that is actually happier being on its edge and helping in the turn. This skier's weak technical skills make it foolish to suggest that his boots are technically "correct" by some arbitrary standard prior to the experimental canting. In fact, I'd say the the first cant test showed an objective improvement. For example, watch the SKIS and note how much better they are tracking (not slipping out) @4:22 and the following turns. Objectively better turns, but outside (above) the realm and comfort range of this barely average skier. I am always bothered when a salesman with such a poor understanding of technique is hawking high zoot "technical" products/services with such a misguided focus. But that's nothing new in the history of ski equipment.
2:30 For the sake of students or people trying to learn, Sean's big problem is his banking of his upper body into the turns. He is thinking, "I want to turn right, I want to turn left." That is the number one problem skiers have because the result is what Sean is doing. That puts his shoulders over his inside foot instead of over his outside foot so he can't Balance on the outside ski. This shoulder movement will destroy everything you want to do in skiing. His HIP or PELVIS should lean down the hill and then into the turns, not his shoulders. 3:10 Right here he is Falling onto his inside ski and not balancing on his outside ski. Can he make it work? Yep! But YOU won't! 4:20 Do Not under any circumstances, ski like this. This is a Perfect demonstration of what Not to do. You have to keep your upper body as vertical as possible no matter what your skis and feet are doing. It is the only way you can be balanced on that uphill, outside, downhill ski during a turn. All that arm swinging will throw you off balance and make your shoulder position even worse. 4:00 See how he faces his chest down the hill with the pole plant? That is good. The problem comes when he keeps rotating his shoulders until his chest is facing to his right and his shoulders are leaning to his right instead of being vertical. You can't be balanced on your new turning ski unless your upper body is vertical. You start and lead a new turn with the re-alignment of your upper body down the hill. The skis follow that lead. 7:42 Now he is heel thrusting and swinging his body all over the place. There is No learning here.
A couple points: a) the video was all about how changing the boot sole angle messed up Sean's skiing. So criticizing how he tries to overcome the problem misses the mark. b) the camera angle makes it tough to judge body angle. The slope is steeper than it looks on camera, and the camera was on a selfie-stick attached to my pole grip, often way above my head and I'm way taller than Sean. So looking down on him makes angles hard to judge. c) at no point are we representing his technique as perfect. The video is about how boot sole angle being off messes up anyone.
@@CantologyLLC a) Sean's boot sole angle has Nothing to do with his multiple skiing problems. That's like saying a high school basketball player isn't fitting into the NBA because he isn't wearing Air Jordon's. Sean needs a complete overhaul of his skiing thinking. I can almost say that everything he is doing is wrong, not just that he has arch or leg problems. Read my original comment. b) I've been doing this since 1964. Teaching since 1968 and thinking for myself instead of following since 1971. I can figure out really quick what is going on from just about any video I watch. If I can't, I won't comment or include disclaimers. c) I needed cant adjustments in ski boots once so I know what problems leg boot and foot misalignments can cause. I also know what can fix the problems. Compensation in the angle of the leg you are standing on, adjust the built in boot canting or you can have cants installed. Now, back to my original comment. As a technician, you would know that you can't test anything unless you have a stable base to start/work from and Sean isn't it. His upper body is such a mess that it affects everything that happens in his legs and feet. You can diagnose the leg problems by having him stand up straight in sneakers. Then put him in boots and make cant adjustments until the bottom of the boot is flat on the floor. Then, he needs to be taught how to ski otherwise those changes will accomplish nothing.
@@JB91710 wtf is wrong with you people... The objective was to induce faulty mechanics through stance change. It could have been a beginner and the point would have been conveyed. Get over yourself...
@@RydenAround This video is about the help of canting and the differences in turn control with various canting. I don't care what you do to this guy's boots, he will always be a bad, and in steeper terrain, an out of control skier because he has no clue how to ski correctly. You have to start with a technically correct skier who can replicate the same body movements and weight changes turn after turn, so you can see how canting affects the end result. Don't comment about something you know nothing about.
@@JB91710 "Then, he needs to be taught how to ski otherwise those changes will accomplish nothing." Right, he needs to ski properly first then evaluate what he needs.
So much confusion and so much "can't" about canting! Most good skiers who are over-canted overturn the outside ski because it's over edged. The "wobbly knee" is another symptom. This skier's under turning ski reflects edge-lock of an otherwise skidding ski. Using a skidding skier was a poor choice. Also there should be a moratorium on the terms knock-kneed and bowlegged. Look at the illustrations in The Athletic Skier. Tina looks "bowlegged" because her boots push her straight ankles outward when standing with boot soles FLAT (over-canted). She looks knock-kneed when under-canted when standing SOLES FLAT because the boots force her outward tilting knees inward. Knees perpendicular to flat ski should always be the goal. Folks whose knees don't "track straight" will likely never become accomplished skier's. Moving cuff adjustment outward is certainly "canting" as well despite all the nonsense spewed on Ski Talk.
Here's the deal with demonstrating skiing with your feet apart. Unless a viewer knows how to ski Technically Correct before trying to ski with their feet apart, they won't be able to do it successfully. To make carved turns with both skis making the same parallel arch, it takes the ability to adjust your weight and balance from foot to foot. The way skiing is being taught worldwide does not teach people what to do with their body and how to proportion and change their weight and balance from foot to foot to allow their skis to make technically correct turns. With that bad teaching and what comes naturally to the student, it is guaranteed that they will be skiing mostly on their inside ski and either hooking it into the hill and spinning around backwards or falling over into the turn or just having the skis change direction and not actually bend and make turns that can control their speed. All demonstration and teaching should focus on basic and proper skiing and then when that is mastered, the skiers can do whatever they want but they can Not do whatever they want before they have learned the basics because they will not have correct skiing to fall back on. Most people mimic what they see. Skiing with your feet apart is one of the worst things to show or teach students. Students need to understand that skiing requires the ability to make turns with most of their weight and balance on the turning ski only and then when they see how it works, they can add more weight to the inside ski to spread out the weight and workload.
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First, to define a skier's alignment, you must understand the movements and be able to do a correct analysis of the skier's turn. In this movement analysis by the commentator, the MA is incorrect. Sean is using a full shoulder rotation and he is leaning his upper body into every turn to generate a skidded turn that barely engages the ski. My reference to his skiing is from his first run, with his regular alignment stance, which is correct his boot setup is not complete. In the falline freeze frame, Sean's outside knee is cocked behind his other knee and it is in an "A-Frame " stance relative to his inside leg. His legs are not parallel this is plain to see. Therefore if you are using this as a baseline and trying to add cant strips with outward tipping or inward tipping you are making him even worse. The first thing you should do is perform a total biomechanical assessment not just play with 2 plus degrees of under-boot canting, those are huge amounts. The description of the canting is confusing at best and the application the way it is described in this video is backward. The Cantology product to modify boot soles is fine if you know how to use it.
Harald I know you're often in Hintertux. Could you please give me some advice for a good Boot fitter in terms of alignment in the Area Austria/Germany. I would appreciate so much!
@@svensanchez3177 connect with me on Facebook
@@skiwhh great, I've already sent you a message in Facebook messenger. Thanks in advance
We don't know anyone near there that can do what do. Even the Garmish ski school director come to us for his boot work.
Harald, the point of the video was to make him worse in both extremes and look at what 'worse' meant'. It mattered not to me to start with someone who was perfect. I hope to get down to your shop one of these years and compare perspectives. In the meantime, I'll continue to do my best to make the public aware that their lateral stance may not be optimal and to seek out folks like you who can literally set them straight. And thanks for your business.
Wow what a difference with only 2.5 mm cant. He certainly had difficulty, thanks for posting such an eye opener!
My pleasure!
I am bow legged and have been struggling with parallel skiing in the past 25 years. Now I understand the problem better instead of blaming myself.
Thanks!
I always felt it was risky to cant a boot in the shop...you needed to do what you are doing..on the hill to fine tune it... I usually just set the boot in a neutral stance made them a foot bed...and did my best to correct it within the boot. Iam a preacher for footbeds...weighted or unweighted...a must. Great vid!
Great point. And I agree on the footbeds. Essential. As for canting, flat is neutral which is a great place to start. Then fine-tune by experimenting on the hill. Unfortunately, this is not real scalable nor practical for most folks. We have more videos in the works exploring sole angle refinement.
He leans into the turn, and doesn’t angulate so there is too much weight on the inside ski. He needs to balance over his outside ski and angulate to create the necessary edge angle. Also he’s too far forward at the completion of the turn. These combined result in his outside ski washing out
Are you talking about his skiing after we messed with his stance or before?
@@CantologyLLC Before, as leaning causes problems with the hip angle messing with getting the
legs correct. Correct in getting a properly stacked position to get proper edge angles with
proper weight distribution i.e. to the outside ski. He may have canting or alignment issues but
first he has to ski stacked and ballanced versus banking/leaning in.
Great video, very informative. One question; what camera are you using to get that automatically tracking?
Insta360 one R. Tracking happens in post.
Very informative! My question is is this canting within the boot or canting in the binding /ski platform?
This is canting between the sole of the boot and the binding. Any adjustments made WITHIN the boot, meaning in the interior of the boot where your foot is, is not canting; it's conformance and fit. This includes cuff adjustments which are simply a conformance/fit adjustment for the lower leg. A cant adjustment, that is, an adjustment to the boot sole angle, is made to the outside of the boot shell or between the binding and the ski. Generally, there are four forms of canting: a) plane the boot sole, b) cant wedges sandwiched between removable tread pads (also called solepads, outsoles), c) cant wedges sandwiched between the boot sole and aftermarket lifters, and d) cant wedges sandwiched between the bindings and the top of the ski. Thanks for your question.
Nice explanation. Is this video from June 2020?
yes, June 24, 2020
Will, do you have any idea why the inside rear mounting screw of a ski binding would persistently pull out of a ski? There seems to be unusual torque force lifting on this screw. This has happened repeatedly with several different skis and bindings, so the skis and bindings do not appear to be the source of the problem. The common elements are the Daleboots and skier. Could this be a result of misalignment? Perhaps one of the master boot fitters you know has encountered this problem and could help with it. Any suggests would be greatly appreciated! //Marshall
Sorry, haven't heard of that problem before, especially where the only common denominator is the boot. I don't see how it could have anything to do with stance. You should definitely go talk to a full service ski shop.
@@CantologyLLC My son, who is a weekend ski patroller in Big Bear, CA, is the one with this nagging problem. Whether its the source of the problem or not, my son’s an engineer and we’ve determined that he does has a significant stance issue. And he’s damaged four pairs of skis so far. Unfortunately, there are no master boot fitters where we live and travel will be necessary. I’ve been checking with other instructors (I teach at Mammoth Mountain) and been watching videos for ideas. My impression is the most knowledgeable boot fitter in the west is Brent Amsbury and we would travel to SLC to have him make an assessment if that’s the best course of action. If there is anyone you know of who can think outside the box about a odd problem like this, we’d appreciate suggestions? //Marshall
@@gogglebro9421 assuming drill size is correct and screw has not been over torqued, another thought is under torqued or not fully seated, which could lead to the binding beating the screw out
@@RydenAround Thanks for the suggestions.
I want to see Sean's foot. Is he flat footed? Supinator? Stiff arch or flexible arch?
Maybe he'll reply
The difficulty Sean seemed to have and his comments on what his first canted run felt like was bang on for me! Passenger not pilot ans on constant verge of disaster wrangling my skis. And i always wear out my shoes more toward the outside, never the inside. So this means there's a very good chance I have an inside stance on one or both feet?? That sounds odd to me as I also have always found it much, much more difficult to turn right than left, which always confused me because I am right handed and generally right side dominant. Wow. I can only hope I can make it up to Whistler to get this checked out by one of the shops that carries and installs your product.
Are Cantology cants compatible for use with Apex ski boots, which are 2 part, having a chassis and a walking boot that gets strapped in?
Also, how much can I adjust for an inside stance using a footbed or some type of wedge inside my boot?
I also wear the outside edges of my shoes down. But I consider myself to have an 'outside' stance because, if un-corrected by cants, I stand naturally with more weight on my outside edges. My cants flatten me out.
As for your asymmetry in ease of turning, your stance problems may well be asymmetric. You're right to go get checked out. There are quite a few shops in Whistler than use our products.
Sorry, we don't make cants for Apex boots. Their sole design is not compatible. Of course, if you can install third-party lifters on them we do sell cants that are sandwiched between the lifter and the boot sole.
I've had very good boot fitters tell me that they can usually safely achieve up to 1 degree of cant within the boot fit and foot bed adjustments. I say "safely' because you don't want to mess too much with the relationship between your foot and your leg, else the ankle is forced into a position it's not happy in. Remember, it's one thing to 'cant' by changing the cuff, the fit, and/or the foot bed, and get to somewhere that looks correct in the shop. It's another to ski all day on an ankle that is forced to be out of its natural, neutral alignment. My philosophy is to get the fit exactly right with foot neutral in the boot and cuff, and then worry about any lateral stance correction.
@@CantologyLLC brilliant and helpful reply. I agree completely with you, particularly your point about keeping the ankle in a neutral natural position; everything is so connected in the body and just one joint out of whack can wreak havoc I don't need.
Thank you for clarifying a bit regarding inside and outside stance. Common sense told me I would have an outside stance as I stand more on the outside of my feet, but somehow in the video I heard that standing that way means you have an inside stance. If I mis-heard, I apologize!
I bought a pair of apex boots to try on and they don't work for me so I'll be going back to my salomons for the time being. And those likelu have a better chance of being "cant-able"! Thank you kindly again for your reply.
Is it ok to lift the tail on steeper runs
There are dozens of ways to turn a pair of skis. Do what works for you as the slopes you tackle get steeper. Watch Cody Townsend ski the steeps. At some point, he has to hop both skis!
Outside stance = Bow-legged?
IMO, it's not a hard and fast rule. I think it works one way but not the other. If you are bowlegged, you probably weight your outside edges too much. But, again, IMO, there can be other factors that result in too much weight on outside edges. I, personally, have an outside stance, but my legs do not appear bowlegged. This is a topic I intend to explore in future videos. One of the first things a top boot fitter does, is examine the customer's foot for flexibility. Some folks are naturally stiff and others are crazily flexible. This helps them determine how to make a great fit for that person; do they move the boot or do they move the foot? I think that huge variations in flexibility from person to person exists for ankles, knees, hips, too. And this factors into where your weight ends up, laterally. Stay tuned.
It would have been helpful to film a skier who could actually carve a ski. The initiation of his turns is just a massive skid. I can't even watch....
Don't watch.
How freeken lame. It's for demonstration of induced faulty mechanics. Get over yourself...
Back seat
Camera angle is deceiving
This is, at best, half accurate. The second portion of the experiment DOES show a sloppy, skiddy skier becoming sloppier and skiddier. And that may well be a problem for some substantial proportion of the skiing public.
However, the first portion of the experiment just shows a skier that is so reliant on his "skidiness" that he is unable to benefit from or be comfortable with a ski that is actually happier being on its edge and helping in the turn. This skier's weak technical skills make it foolish to suggest that his boots are technically "correct" by some arbitrary standard prior to the experimental canting. In fact, I'd say the the first cant test showed an objective improvement. For example, watch the SKIS and note how much better they are tracking (not slipping out) @4:22 and the following turns. Objectively better turns, but outside (above) the realm and comfort range of this barely average skier.
I am always bothered when a salesman with such a poor understanding of technique is hawking high zoot "technical" products/services with such a misguided focus.
But that's nothing new in the history of ski equipment.
I'm glad it's half accurate. Thanks for commenting
2:30 For the sake of students or people trying to learn, Sean's big problem is his banking of his upper body into the turns. He is thinking, "I want to turn right, I want to turn left." That is the number one problem skiers have because the result is what Sean is doing. That puts his shoulders over his inside foot instead of over his outside foot so he can't Balance on the outside ski. This shoulder movement will destroy everything you want to do in skiing. His HIP or PELVIS should lean down the hill and then into the turns, not his shoulders.
3:10 Right here he is Falling onto his inside ski and not balancing on his outside ski. Can he make it work? Yep! But YOU won't!
4:20 Do Not under any circumstances, ski like this. This is a Perfect demonstration of what Not to do. You have to keep your upper body as vertical as possible no matter what your skis and feet are doing. It is the only way you can be balanced on that uphill, outside, downhill ski during a turn. All that arm swinging will throw you off balance and make your shoulder position even worse.
4:00 See how he faces his chest down the hill with the pole plant? That is good. The problem comes when he keeps rotating his shoulders until his chest is facing to his right and his shoulders are leaning to his right instead of being vertical. You can't be balanced on your new turning ski unless your upper body is vertical.
You start and lead a new turn with the re-alignment of your upper body down the hill. The skis follow that lead.
7:42 Now he is heel thrusting and swinging his body all over the place. There is No learning here.
A couple points:
a) the video was all about how changing the boot sole angle messed up Sean's skiing. So criticizing how he tries to overcome the problem misses the mark.
b) the camera angle makes it tough to judge body angle. The slope is steeper than it looks on camera, and the camera was on a selfie-stick attached to my pole grip, often way above my head and I'm way taller than Sean. So looking down on him makes angles hard to judge.
c) at no point are we representing his technique as perfect. The video is about how boot sole angle being off messes up anyone.
@@CantologyLLC
a) Sean's boot sole angle has Nothing to do with his multiple skiing problems. That's like saying a high school basketball player isn't fitting into the NBA because he isn't wearing Air Jordon's. Sean needs a complete overhaul of his skiing thinking. I can almost say that everything he is doing is wrong, not just that he has arch or leg problems. Read my original comment.
b) I've been doing this since 1964. Teaching since 1968 and thinking for myself instead of following since 1971. I can figure out really quick what is going on from just about any video I watch. If I can't, I won't comment or include disclaimers.
c) I needed cant adjustments in ski boots once so I know what problems leg boot and foot misalignments can cause. I also know what can fix the problems. Compensation in the angle of the leg you are standing on, adjust the built in boot canting or you can have cants installed.
Now, back to my original comment. As a technician, you would know that you can't test anything unless you have a stable base to start/work from and Sean isn't it. His upper body is such a mess that it affects everything that happens in his legs and feet. You can diagnose the leg problems by having him stand up straight in sneakers. Then put him in boots and make cant adjustments until the bottom of the boot is flat on the floor. Then, he needs to be taught how to ski otherwise those changes will accomplish nothing.
@@JB91710 wtf is wrong with you people... The objective was to induce faulty mechanics through stance change. It could have been a beginner and the point would have been conveyed. Get over yourself...
@@RydenAround This video is about the help of canting and the differences in turn control with various canting. I don't care what you do to this guy's boots, he will always be a bad, and in steeper terrain, an out of control skier because he has no clue how to ski correctly. You have to start with a technically correct skier who can replicate the same body movements and weight changes turn after turn, so you can see how canting affects the end result. Don't comment about something you know nothing about.
@@JB91710 "Then, he needs to be taught how to ski otherwise those changes will accomplish nothing." Right, he needs to ski properly first then evaluate what he needs.
So much confusion and so much "can't" about canting! Most good skiers who are over-canted overturn the outside ski because it's over edged. The "wobbly knee" is another symptom. This skier's under turning ski reflects edge-lock of an otherwise skidding ski. Using a skidding skier was a poor choice. Also there should be a moratorium on the terms knock-kneed and bowlegged. Look at the illustrations in The Athletic Skier. Tina looks "bowlegged" because her boots push her straight ankles outward when standing with boot soles FLAT (over-canted). She looks knock-kneed when under-canted when standing SOLES FLAT because the boots force her outward tilting knees inward. Knees perpendicular to flat ski should always be the goal. Folks whose knees don't "track straight" will likely never become accomplished skier's. Moving cuff adjustment outward is certainly "canting" as well despite all the nonsense spewed on Ski Talk.
What is the nonsense being spewed on Ski Talk?
Thanks
Sean needs to relax . Little bugger is white washing mt hood .
I'll tell him ;-)
Here's the deal with demonstrating skiing with your feet apart. Unless a viewer knows how to ski Technically Correct before trying to ski with their feet apart, they won't be able to do it successfully. To make carved turns with both skis making the same parallel arch, it takes the ability to adjust your weight and balance from foot to foot.
The way skiing is being taught worldwide does not teach people what to do with their body and how to proportion and change their weight and balance from foot to foot to allow their skis to make technically correct turns. With that bad teaching and what comes naturally to the student, it is guaranteed that they will be skiing mostly on their inside ski and either hooking it into the hill and spinning around backwards or falling over into the turn or just having the skis change direction and not actually bend and make turns that can control their speed.
All demonstration and teaching should focus on basic and proper skiing and then when that is mastered, the skiers can do whatever they want but they can Not do whatever they want before they have learned the basics because they will not have correct skiing to fall back on.
Most people mimic what they see. Skiing with your feet apart is one of the worst things to show or teach students. Students need to understand that skiing requires the ability to make turns with most of their weight and balance on the turning ski only and then when they see how it works, they can add more weight to the inside ski to spread out the weight and workload.
Thanks