Diego Sanchez's Trainer EXPOSED 2 Baptizes Diego, Calls out Joe Rogan, Fake Followers & more

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  • Опубликовано: 25 фев 2020
  • Diego's Trainer is doubling down on all his techniques so i made Part 2. He is even claiming to break the punch machine at the ufc pi and made it glitch and fall off the wall while calling out Joe Rogan demanding an apology or he's going to keep showing the truth. He baptizes Diego. He's been acting condescending to all the mma media so i started digging. He has a different Instagram from before his voodoo He was a massage therapist and a "model". He plays touchbutt in the park with commentary from Nate Diaz. A lot of the people that he claims he is reposting from Instagram don't exist. The accounts aren't real. He tags a lot of people but nobody has ever reposted his stuff. He even claims to be a shaman.
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  • @DEEPMMA
    @DEEPMMA  4 года назад +17

    Predictions for how this ends???

    • @bboydee99
      @bboydee99 4 года назад +25

      Diego's head will explode from all that selfawareness talking and he will murder Fabia!

    • @cerebralpathways6123
      @cerebralpathways6123 4 года назад +21

      Sad to say but he's probably gonna lose the rest of the fights on his contract if he stays with this little weirdo and then that'll be it for him and that's if he doesn't get cut before that

    • @thizzlemetimbrs8194
      @thizzlemetimbrs8194 4 года назад +9

      my prediction, loses the rest of his ufc fights, gets let go, and goes to bellator to win against a no named scrub to ride off into the sunset claiming the school of self-destruction works and the ufc was out to get him, even though his 'manager' fabia signed diego up for the last 2 fights but more importantly the last one which they claim the guy was a freak athlete and unfair for diego to fight lol. Someone didnt do there research, fabia.

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  4 года назад +4

      we can only hope

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  4 года назад +5

      agreed the way he was talking about sean shelby and ufc i dont see him lasting long

  • @cerebralpathways6123
    @cerebralpathways6123 4 года назад +160

    I feel for Diego man, he either just straight up got conned or they're banging each other because the pictures and videos they take are hella suspect 🤔

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  4 года назад +14

      suspect as it gets. it wuld make more sense thehn him being a coach

    • @nicholasschneider2056
      @nicholasschneider2056 4 года назад +7

      cerebral pathways when you lose your family and get divorced you go absolutely insane. So there’s the kicker for the weird shit

    • @mexicanabist8705
      @mexicanabist8705 4 года назад +5

      Yeah but this guy has to much pride to not be the coach. All hes taught Diego is how to run, hopefully Diego runs from him haha

    • @var7877
      @var7877 4 года назад

      Lol

    • @eriklarson4082
      @eriklarson4082 4 года назад

      @@DEEPMMA It "*would*" make sense to use the built in spell check rather "*than*" making up your own spelling.

  • @umadbro757lol
    @umadbro757lol 3 года назад +32

    Playing touchbutt with that dork in the park ☠️☠️☠️☠️

  • @mexicanabist8705
    @mexicanabist8705 4 года назад +84

    His techniques are so uncle rico. This guy must be a napoleon dynamite fan

    • @phillabong520
      @phillabong520 4 года назад +4

      Mexi Canabist Rex Kwon Do* 🤣

    • @phillabong520
      @phillabong520 4 года назад +2

      Mexi Canabist “break the wrist and walk away” haha

    • @taylorstillman7932
      @taylorstillman7932 3 года назад +1

      He's a fucking Liger dude

    • @UdonTZai
      @UdonTZai 3 года назад +1

      spot on!😂

    • @queti5859
      @queti5859 3 года назад

      Steak thrown to the face *

  • @CompleteProducer84
    @CompleteProducer84 4 года назад +78

    Now if only Masvidal would baptize Fabia...

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  4 года назад +6

      best comment yet. maybe he touches the wrong fighter at ufc pi and gets baptized

    • @CompleteProducer84
      @CompleteProducer84 4 года назад +1

      DEEP MMA & BOXING Lol yeah that would also work

    • @mexicanabist8705
      @mexicanabist8705 4 года назад +4

      I wish. Fabia would only fight somebody with his exact measurements height weight reach. Ya know, AGE. So that its a fair fight... This guru is the new spokesperson for the victim mentality in america.

    • @theman5221
      @theman5221 4 года назад +1

      @@mexicanabist8705 him vs. bj penn

  • @NannupTiger
    @NannupTiger 4 года назад +44

    Poor Sanchez...he's Jim Jones cult, gone 😞

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  4 года назад +7

      for real. there will be a ufc documentary on how this ends in few years

    • @NannupTiger
      @NannupTiger 4 года назад +1

      @@DEEPMMA ~ totally agree, there should be an intervention, but people are free to follow who they want 😞...

  • @philbuell6657
    @philbuell6657 3 года назад +34

    Trying to coverup a butt love fetish between fighter and trainer is what I'm putting together

    • @corsoconcrete8079
      @corsoconcrete8079 3 года назад +2

      True story

    • @bluewendigo672
      @bluewendigo672 3 года назад +1

      Probably some Male BDSM going on😂😂😂😂.

    • @nookie077
      @nookie077 3 года назад +2

      Listen, the guy is obviously a tool, but all the slightly veiled homophobia is just playing into his hands. Who cares if they are gay? If he was a great trainer and had Diego's best interests in mind, he's winning in the cage and all that, I personally wouldn't give two fucks.

  • @360Fov
    @360Fov 3 года назад +13

    Those flies on his foot are also laying eggs in the wound, wtf is that man's problem

  • @Jordanlopezmusic
    @Jordanlopezmusic 4 года назад +25

    They are obviously lovers. Cute playing tag and patty cake. These are bakers men

  • @taylorstillman7932
    @taylorstillman7932 3 года назад +16

    Labia slapping that heavy bag looks like my son when he was 5 hitting the BOB.

  • @julianlavalley7454
    @julianlavalley7454 3 года назад +8

    Diego floating in the water while Josh checks his oil

  • @squallleonheart3020
    @squallleonheart3020 3 года назад +28

    Fabia: strength 0
    Speed 0
    Manipulation. 99999+

  • @robertsolimanm7031
    @robertsolimanm7031 3 года назад +35

    Diego guru vs CM punk ... don’t miss UFC 300 ... also Chris angel makes his octagon debut. Wow what a card

    • @killingmachinegun3817
      @killingmachinegun3817 3 года назад +2

      Damn chrisangel mijdfrewk

    • @pawekleszcz8196
      @pawekleszcz8196 3 года назад +1

      Actually why disrespect CM punk
      He seems like a cool guy who had a dream
      I rather see Dana white vs fabia

  • @mikerob7851
    @mikerob7851 3 года назад +11

    Ppl like this piss me off. They are getting ppl hurt but it’s harder for most to know they are being fooled than it is to fool them.

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  3 года назад +1

      exactly why i made it. it made me so mad

  • @YoutubeluvsGroomers
    @YoutubeluvsGroomers 3 года назад +17

    How the hell does a legit fighter like Diego end up with this guy

    • @jitsroller
      @jitsroller 3 года назад +5

      That's what I can't wrap my brain around.

    • @Christian-xj5qc
      @Christian-xj5qc 3 года назад +7

      Well Diego obviously needz help

    • @ChrisCre8tor
      @ChrisCre8tor 3 года назад +3

      They're lovers its pretty obvious

    • @danielvolosin6614
      @danielvolosin6614 3 года назад +3

      CTE and a rough divorce from ex wife

    • @ChrisCre8tor
      @ChrisCre8tor 3 года назад

      @Ed Kelly Everyone uses everyone in this world buddy

  • @shutternomad90
    @shutternomad90 4 года назад +33

    I wanna see Fabia vs sean o'malley. I'd pay double the price of PPV for just that one fight.
    Spread the word!!!

  • @DavidElstob73
    @DavidElstob73 4 года назад +17

    It's sad that this little freak can take advantage of a legendary warrior. Sad. Very sad.

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  4 года назад +1

      agrreed

    • @rumpleforeskin9543
      @rumpleforeskin9543 4 года назад

      He got a tight hole and lovely lips?

    • @mattbuddy6803
      @mattbuddy6803 3 года назад

      He may have beeen a legendary warrior, now he's a legendary fuck up.....

    • @mattbuddy6803
      @mattbuddy6803 3 года назад +1

      Playing touch butt with that dork in the park lmao

    • @10OzGlove
      @10OzGlove 3 года назад

      You guys are sad cause you just can't accept that Diego has always been a sad sack loser, crazy and medicore fighter. Instead you call him a "warrior" for brawling a cage, big f'ing deal. You're the idiots stuck in the UFC cult, so when you see someone leave and be free you can't accept it so you make fun of them because they have more courage than you. Stick to your cardboard UFC warriors BS while Diego takes care of his health instead of jeopardizing it for the pleasure of losers like you for a few bucks that won't even last him 6 months, but you're right Joshua is the conman not Dana for making Diego kill himself for a few dollars and the fairy tale of a piece of tin called a "Championship".

  • @my11badkids78
    @my11badkids78 3 года назад +6

    Whats the most difficult part of training with Joshua Fabia?
    Telling your wife and kids your GAY.

  • @afatty322
    @afatty322 3 года назад +2

    I'm gay and this is even weird for me🤣🤣🤣

  • @nickalfonso4122
    @nickalfonso4122 3 года назад +15

    I have zero training and really want to walk in this guys gym and challenge him to a fight

    • @sabeto5527
      @sabeto5527 3 года назад

      Would you say the same thing if he was 6ft and 180 pounds?

    • @user-ch9nj4mb5b
      @user-ch9nj4mb5b 3 года назад +1

      @@sabeto5527 why does that matter. This guy deserves a beating no matter how tall he is.

    • @nickalfonso4122
      @nickalfonso4122 3 года назад

      @@sabeto5527 I’m 6’1” 180 so yeah. I could get murdered by the right 145. He ain’t the one.

    • @coolcobracommand
      @coolcobracommand 3 года назад

      @@sabeto5527 lmao....the size of the average man is supposed to be intimidating? How do you know this guy isn't 6'3 240? I make 180 pound dudes look like children and I don't even lift just work and everyday activity. I know size doesn't mean everything it's just funny to think someone would be scared of 180 dude. I could literally throw them into a wall.

    • @sabeto5527
      @sabeto5527 3 года назад +1

      @@coolcobracommand But a lot if not most people ARE intimidated by size. My point is that people are talking about beating up Diego Sanchez's coach, who's not a fighter at ALL and is a little guy. Makes these people sound like bullies/bitches.
      I don't like the guy either, I think he's a piece of shit but I'm not going to advocate for violence against him either.

  • @davidguzman6299
    @davidguzman6299 3 года назад +9

    Conor started all this shi+. Bringing that touch butt dude on to his training.

  • @momoneymoproblemz
    @momoneymoproblemz 4 года назад +17

    Bullishido alive and well it seems

  • @NannupTiger
    @NannupTiger 4 года назад +1

    I absolutely LOVE your channel, it's like no other! You are really smart about fighting sports and can truly put together a great video, thanks mate...

  • @tumuerto111
    @tumuerto111 4 года назад +4

    The flies on the cuts were super duper weird

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  4 года назад

      that might have started rona lol

  • @californiacavemandastardly6538
    @californiacavemandastardly6538 3 года назад +9

    Holy shit! Dude Im a huge Nightmare fan, this is heartbreaking to watch. Much love to a UFC hall of Famer legend and has one of the greatest nicknames Diego "The Nightmare " Sanchez its sad to see his career end like this. May we toast to our fallen warrior! TO DIEGO! The godfather of TUF

  • @Cagney68
    @Cagney68 3 года назад +4

    1:23 "You're playing touch-butt with that dork in the park."

  • @THIS---GUY
    @THIS---GUY 3 года назад +3

    You can finish any man with the balls and throat technique
    -Joshua Fabia

  • @jasonflorence5026
    @jasonflorence5026 4 года назад +22

    We will see him on the news after he kills Diego

  • @lake_cooper
    @lake_cooper 4 года назад +6

    This guy just gets worse and worse... BOGUS.

  • @alexg_getfit6195
    @alexg_getfit6195 3 года назад +5

    Diaz summed everyone’s thoughts in a unique expression 😂

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  3 года назад +1

      haha exactly why i had to put it in

    • @eriklarson9137
      @eriklarson9137 5 месяцев назад

      @@DEEPMMA Imagine doing that. When Diaz was talking to Conor. And it had zero to do with Diego.

  • @gdubleu
    @gdubleu 3 года назад +2

    We need a part 3

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  3 года назад

      haha ill try but its going to hurt my brain researching this weirdo more

  • @mickeyleebluebird1746
    @mickeyleebluebird1746 3 года назад +6

    Well, (sigh) here we are & we know what happened. Diego = isolated, scared, & controlled = psychological abuse!

  • @CloudsBeyond
    @CloudsBeyond 3 года назад +1

    JUST BIZARRE! Hanging upside down and taking strikes, rubbing Tabasco sauce on bare buttocks, odd chanting throat singing, blindfolded training, getting your privates hit from with a plastic bendy ruler, jumping up tucking in legs and farting whilst on trampoline, etc are all training that you hear Diego has undergone under the guidance of his trainer. No other UFC or MMA fighter that is highly regarded is doing such bizarre things in their training, that says it all really.

  • @blastoise77
    @blastoise77 4 года назад +6

    My grandma would wrap this guy up like a pretzel

  • @gmnboss
    @gmnboss 3 года назад +2

    Tony Ferguson said his training methods are a little strange

  • @JohnDoe-rm3rj
    @JohnDoe-rm3rj 3 года назад +2

    Can we all just take a moment to realize nate saw this coming.

  • @jitsroller
    @jitsroller 3 года назад +4

    It's uncomfortable to watch at best.

  • @briguy459
    @briguy459 3 года назад +2

    Like it or not, this is what peak human performance looks like

  • @bobcharly8641
    @bobcharly8641 3 года назад +3

    Joshua prolly giving him the “dirty Sanchez”😂.

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  3 года назад +1

      lmao too fitting

  • @menadafennecfoxwao5379
    @menadafennecfoxwao5379 3 года назад +1

    How can he be a founder, a 'guide' and teacher in the school of self awareness when he so blissfully unaware of reality? How is this gonna end? the same way any other Cult ends.

  • @edrobles1116
    @edrobles1116 3 года назад +1

    Someone needs to put a stop to this before the police finds a whole bunch of dead MMA fighters next to a pitcher of cool-aid

  • @JumpingWatermelons
    @JumpingWatermelons 3 года назад +2

    Poor Joshua. He's out there trying his best!

  • @californiacavemandastardly6538
    @californiacavemandastardly6538 3 года назад +1

    Deep MMA & Boxing told me to check this craziness out. Im scared, but here I go.

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  3 года назад +1

      😂😂😂 it hurt my head making it. I had to share the craziness

  • @krazykillar4794
    @krazykillar4794 3 года назад +2

    Who is up for a prank !
    Let's sign up at the school of self awareness as students of the great sense fabia .
    We will record the lessons and release on youtube .
    We would become millionaires.

  • @masaeffy
    @masaeffy 3 года назад +1

    How can a guy that trains like this be in ufc . I cant comprehend

  • @zepole87
    @zepole87 3 года назад

    Love how the title doesnt have his name lol

  • @darkandchinesejonhui
    @darkandchinesejonhui 3 года назад +3

    Here's an idea: hire a fighting trainer who used to be a fighter 🤔

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  3 года назад +2

      i know its a wild idea but im with you there

  • @xXx-tt6lq
    @xXx-tt6lq 3 года назад +3

    Omg im convinced they are a couple 🤣

  • @ZackAriah94
    @ZackAriah94 3 года назад +1

    The only magic I see is the part where you put Nate Diaz in the video hahahahaha 😂

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  3 года назад +1

      haha glad you liked that part

  • @marygaczewski5334
    @marygaczewski5334 3 года назад

    That bag video is Hilarious😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @mmatalk3817
    @mmatalk3817 3 года назад +1

    "I'm not gay my boyfriend fabia is!".
    - Diego sanchez

  • @DamianMercuri
    @DamianMercuri 4 года назад +13

    These two are lovers

  • @slasaus1
    @slasaus1 3 года назад

    Nate was talking abt Ido Portal COnor's (ex) movement trainer, not Joshua

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  3 года назад +1

      lol i know but i thought it was a good explanation of what they did in the park

  • @wang425
    @wang425 3 года назад +1

    A friend told me that this is a very, very, very ancient martial art ... called Bullshido.

  • @jesselindquist1794
    @jesselindquist1794 4 года назад +2

    This is so cringeworthy. This isn’t real.... Diego is trolling us.... nobody is that dumb

  • @alexanderdelarosahidalgo3092
    @alexanderdelarosahidalgo3092 3 года назад +1

    Those two are out there without medication

  • @DSRE535
    @DSRE535 4 года назад +10

    Are you kidding this is a match made in heaven lmao, this is pretty much how I thought Diego trained anyways lol wow

  • @markblack2202
    @markblack2202 3 года назад +1

    Please Triller Promotions set up a fight between Mr. Bullshido and Thug Rose

  • @roymartinez4563
    @roymartinez4563 4 года назад +1

    This is like Nacho libre and escaleto training

  • @mjkrbjcw
    @mjkrbjcw 3 года назад +1

    Diego knows it’s bullshit but don’t want to hear “ I told you so “ off Jacksonwink so carries on with it

  • @PowerScissor
    @PowerScissor 4 года назад +5

    Is he about 3 feet tall?

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  4 года назад +3

      give or take a few inches for his ego

  • @staceylamont4129
    @staceylamont4129 3 года назад +2

    Shameful !!! Anyone can see through it! Both should be banished for discrediting what a real coach/trainer can do for a fighter. Its like watching one of those fake martial artist videos I lost respect for Diego .

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  3 года назад +1

      thats exactly what drove me crazy about it. i coach and know how hard it is and dedication and how hard it is to make a living at it then a fraud like this comes in and steals from a legend

  • @dave99887
    @dave99887 4 года назад +2

    What the hell am I watching. Make it stop.

  • @THEREALZENFORCE
    @THEREALZENFORCE 3 года назад +1

    Joshua Fabia aka The Tiger King without the tigers but still with his male friends.

  • @timcole2373
    @timcole2373 3 года назад

    The dude is walking around with a replica of GSP tattoo.... Come on dude

  • @bush600r2
    @bush600r2 3 года назад

    Is this the same guy that did touch but in the park with Conor?

  • @smilescries5325
    @smilescries5325 3 года назад +2

    wait how would it be a smear campaign if the guys a complete sham

  • @douglewis6924
    @douglewis6924 4 года назад +4

    Don't drop the soap Sanshez...opps too late.

  • @ajfromcjbasements6574
    @ajfromcjbasements6574 3 года назад +1

    Legend has it he can punch a man clear over those mountains

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  3 года назад

      thats what i heard too

  • @harleyfrench9997
    @harleyfrench9997 3 года назад +2

    Flies on the feet 🤢 Lord of the flies Beelzebub

  • @chriswilson1968
    @chriswilson1968 4 года назад +4

    I smell honey hole action...

  • @Sc-su7sc
    @Sc-su7sc 3 года назад

    That one photo of the yoga pose the handstand thats not even him.

  • @philcliffe6909
    @philcliffe6909 3 года назад

    If Fabia can submit Diego in 40 seconds and break a wall mounted pad, should he not be competing in the UFC, make a name for himself THEN start coaching with some actual credentials behind him?

  • @SkitterMcBoo
    @SkitterMcBoo 3 года назад

    Bro wtf were those punches he was throwing when he had the boxing gloves on... his feet his shoulders and his fist were all doing something wrong. How in gods name did he convince Diego he knows anything about martial arts?

  • @aram3556
    @aram3556 3 года назад +1

    This fabia guy should be in the bullshido videos

  • @truecrimewithcammy4768
    @truecrimewithcammy4768 3 года назад +1

    This is to far its like torture

  • @WindWalker1961
    @WindWalker1961 3 года назад

    Death Punch Awareness 2021...great band name

  • @michaelfox933
    @michaelfox933 3 года назад +1

    I think he does these "training techniques" to get his rock off!

  • @botay8883
    @botay8883 3 года назад

    Guarantee you, " Fabia " Will be on the shopping channel this December selling " Xtra small, V-neck, Sleeveless, Back out, T-shirts of himself, Buy ( two shirts ) & he'll throw in his homemade suntan lotion, Made exclusively from Bison chips $$$ 🤑 🤣!!! " 🤭🤭🤭 !!!

  • @420loss
    @420loss 3 года назад +1

    1:20 a Random Diaz And McGregor Clip Lol

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  3 года назад

      i had to cause its his trainer playing touch butt with some dude in the park so i added some diaz commentary to it

  • @ROFO79
    @ROFO79 3 года назад +1

    Does this end with Diego drinking poisoned Kool-Aid

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  3 года назад

      lol more then likely

  • @jonfiore5162
    @jonfiore5162 4 года назад +2

    See this is the problem training with a guy mixing up shrooms with edibles,

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  4 года назад +1

      gotta be stronger then that i think for this

  • @juanito3821
    @juanito3821 3 года назад

    Is this the same guy that was playing touch butt in the park with connor? 😆 serious question

  • @jukee67
    @jukee67 3 года назад

    Diego is gonna need a gofundme or a dog, a guitar, and cup real soon, but I may be wrong.

  • @seanmcclure
    @seanmcclure 3 года назад +1

    Joshua puts the “D” in Diego

  • @whateverdot
    @whateverdot 3 года назад

    The fact this was made a year ago, lol

  • @lockingpaul
    @lockingpaul 3 года назад

    The more of these vids that pop up the more it proves what Diego says

  • @VoIPPortland
    @VoIPPortland 3 года назад +1

    01:18 DIAZ!!!! The best orator in the vid! Touch butt in the park! Can't stop laughing. We are all deluded about people or things in our life but those delusions normally don't steamroll over our lives, but then there is Diego.

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  3 года назад

      glad someone appreciated that part

  • @4evaReadyEddie
    @4evaReadyEddie 3 года назад +2

    its hilarious when diego gets spanked and proper feels it "arrrrrrr" 🤬

  • @autismwalk6855
    @autismwalk6855 3 года назад +2

    Wtf????? 😳

  • @Tyler-iq2gx
    @Tyler-iq2gx 3 года назад +1

    Somehow this dude has become an internet celebrity over night it seems. And all because of how weird he is yet managed to brainwash Diego nightmare Sanchez into his "School of self awareness" lol

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  3 года назад

      at least i dont think it will get him more clients to manipulate but prob will

  • @keithpatrick156
    @keithpatrick156 3 года назад

    If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.

  • @propagandaaccount
    @propagandaaccount 3 года назад

    Only in MMA...why don’t we ever see this shit in boxing?

  • @menadafennecfoxwao5379
    @menadafennecfoxwao5379 3 года назад

    I wonder how else he gives his 'students' DNA?

  • @thomashassall96
    @thomashassall96 3 года назад +1

    Fabia Segal has just fucked up diegos legacy 🥴

  • @francescomorales7812
    @francescomorales7812 3 года назад

    This reminds me of the Russian art of Systema. Laminate.

  • @matthewneufer1758
    @matthewneufer1758 3 года назад +1

    This dude is strange anyone with common sense would know that this dont work

  • @perunlowtuned
    @perunlowtuned 3 года назад

    3:14 - young Steven Seagal

  • @luism3121
    @luism3121 3 года назад

    0:33 you show twitter acc then you show instagram acc... what???

    • @DEEPMMA
      @DEEPMMA  3 года назад

      all from instagram

  • @Trumpsuxnutz
    @Trumpsuxnutz 3 года назад

    I still wanna see the dead man punch or whatever