We all know Ssundee really doesn't like drama, so he was nice about what happened but behind the scenes it was more deeper, tbh I don't agree with Crainer telling this, it's between friends and should of stayed it that way because we all know the internet is a fucked up place and people will either side with Crainer and insult Ssundee or people will side with Ssundee and insult Crainer. Kids take things out of context and imagine something that isn't actually there, so I'm surprised nothing major has happened since this video came out.
@@SxnisterKingit's because kids don't know who crainer was and even if they found out they would never be on crainers side gonna disrespect ssundee crainer in the interview said he was in the wrong for what he did with Lance and the problem with sundee was about how he doesn't get a lot of money because he was a small youtuber which is why he said I should have maybe talked with him but he didn't know how to
this guy lives such a sad life,.. used and snaked lancey, ghosted ssundee for some lame dudes and snaked them too, divorced his wife and lost some pets.... glad he's getting help tho
Honestly, this shows the downside of content creation. It's not all just sitting down and gaming, there's a lot of stuff behind the scenes. Crainer, honestly you and Ssundee need to start talking again. I remember watching your lucky block videos awhile back and they were really entertaining.
I am a fan of both of them, and while I do think it’s sad that their collaboration couldn’t continue, if Crainer wasn’t enjoying it then leaving was probably the right decision for him, although I do also agree with what he said about that it could’ve been better if they’d talked about it first rather than just leaving abruptly with no warning, but I don’t think he felt comfortable doing that at that stage. I do think it’s nice to see him able to open up about this sort of thing, though.
It is still acceptable if he considered his mental health and ultimately decided to move. Although it's genuinely difficult for him to send a formal notification to SSundee and say, "Hey, I am not comfortable with the collaboration," he still needed to communicate this to him. If they were true friends, at the very least, true friends could understand. Reflecting on those SkyFactory, Crundee Craft, Lucky Block Challenge, and 100 Ways to Die videos, each of them garnered millions of views. I don't believe Crainer can achieve this level of success anymore.
Well ssundees disstrack kinda perfectly summarizes why crainer had success, "everyone knows the only reason your videos are good is cuz they know im the entertainer"
Crazy how crainer went from saying him and ssundee were best friends and now he won't even talk to him anymore, it's sad bro they were like the best RUclips duo at the time
And he said he left without really telling ssundee anything fr. From best friend to "i didn't enjoy it and wanted to leave. So i left without a word." I fr just hope he was hopefully up front with ssundee off camera then. Like telling him fr if they was friends or not cause we know he was not in a good place for a few years and itd be terrible if on top of it all, he knows the main dude hes hanging with doesn't like him abd is using him for views. I just hope ssundee knew how crainer felt and wasn't too hurt.
@@parrytheplatypus6570 To be fair, their relationship definitely die out while SSundee take a year long break from RUclips, basically leaving crainer alone, and the worse part is, Crainer get hate on for trying to collab with someone else. Honestly, I would say crainer contribute a lot to the due, and is very much less appreciated while with SSundee. But due to the matter with lancy, it become complicated. It all in the past now, what broken can never be the same.
I don’t even know how he can keep a straight face while lieing to everyone, it’s straight disrespect to Ssundee and everyone else if your gonna come out and say what happened just say how u wanted to use him and he found out or the u were such a bad friend, it’s just disgusting listening someone lie like that.
What ticks me off is he says “I know Ssundee and know he would react badly to me not wanting to record with him” my guy Ssundee isn’t petty like that and when Ssundee covered this he said he understood whatever the reason was cause he didn’t know and even wished him luck. Without the help of the people he has carelessly stepped on he wouldn’t have the fan base he has and the view amounts without Ssundee and the others he ghosted and left. And then trying to act victim is pathetic. I was never a big fan of Crainer and now this just proves what a pos he really is
Yes and no like he said he didn't like confrontation, so he just left because he didn't like the power inbalance, but he did regret not talking with him
@@ozthebeeman I think Crainer was young and admitted completely what did he was terrible, he was trying to get ahead in his career. He apologised to Lancey and Lancey i think wanted his friend back so he forgave him
I grew up watching SSundee, and I definitely loved the things he did together with Crainer. SkyeFactory was amazing, and the Golden Cobblestone sparked my obsession with Ars Magica 2. I also loved all of the Minecraft pranks they played on each other.
@@jannikattentater3838he used him for money and gifts and stuff, and then edited a recording of lancey and sent it to ssundee to cause them to fall out. First part is using, second is snaking
Why do they try so damn hard to make SSundee look bad? "So he was mad at you? Did you feel like you had a friendship with SSundee?" Comeon man. Crainer is so damn chill with it.
@@DrageLee I agree, and that's not what I meant. These guys are trying to dehumanize Ssundee, as if he was a horrible person and "only used Crainer". I honestly just feel bad for both of them
@Atrulion fr. Crainer was the one using him if anything. Ssundee is a star fr. He was shining before crainer and after. Crainer was the one who wanted to be apart of it. And he did. Then even with ssundee being cool and all those fun times, now crainer felt a certain way. A power imbalance. A age gap. Basically he felt ssundee was bigger than him. He felt ssundee was better and he aint like that. And ghosted ssundee with all the supoort and love ssundee gave him. Like crainers still okay ig as he at least realizes where he went wrong and all that. He made his peace, and ssundee isnt mad, but to even try and pajnt a certain picture about ssundee is some bullshit.
Really? Here we thought that Ssundee and Crainer stopped recording together because of the fanbase, claiming that crainer is just using Ssundee to rise to fame and another popular reason is that Ssundee's personal life caught up with his work and that producing videos with crainer in modpacks were too time consuming, especially the amount of off-cam grind sessions ssundee does with it. Not to mention their timezones are so so different that recording was day and night literally, so much so that Ssundee's family got into rough waters. And now I'm hearing from crainer that he just up and went away just like that?
@@merlin5411 yeah because he doesnt wanna cause drama so he will obviously not make a big deal about, still doesnt change how crainer is still a big piece of shit though
Honestly I respect the hell out of ssundee for the way he tries to avoid drama, I've always wanted to know what happened between them but looking at it now it probably would've started a fanbase war between them if he told the truth. I remember when he uploaded the "Where have I been" video I have never seen a man look so.. defeated. As much as I don't like his newer content I'm just happy the RUclipsr I grew up watching isn't another criminal and is successful and happy nowadays.
I honestly don’t feel bad for Crainer here. Not because what he did wasn’t bad, no it’s awful, but because this is where it ends. He made his bed, now he’s gonna sleep in it. At the end of the day his decisions left him with a history of making a friend, using them, and then spitting them out later. He ditched 2 people but the sad thing is the first time was successful because his identity didn’t surround this person, the second time it did and that’s why when he ghosted Ssundee it blew up this bad. Crainer could’ve stuck it out with Ssundee, made a final video together and left. Instead he ghosted his friend, and ran for the mountains.
I lost respect for Crainer. Lancey gave him everything and was treating him like family, but Crainer saw it as a ladder to get to the top. And back then he didnt have the disensy to apologise. And he ghosted Ssundee and just left him without saying anything and it feels like they werent friends for all this time. So he left and betrayed Lancey then betrayed and ghosted Ssundee and went to Jelly and Josh to get more views and finally he left Jelly and Josh. Crainer is a scumbag.
Why does it? If I speak for myself which I will, I watched every single episode of there skyblock series, And I can tell in all of the recordings now that I look back at it, Ssunde was "The boss" In them. And i feel that this does not need attention, People need to be moving on, Not looking back
Totally agree, I miss Crainer in the videos but after hearing what happened I feel no sympathy. Biffle, Sigils, and Zud seem much more genuine and overall hilarious.
As someone that grew up watching the two of you genuinely grow together via content, I need to understand how you as a grown man didn’t decide that this was an instance where you needed to swallow whatever it is you got going on and have a conversation with your FRIEND😕 the way you did ssundee is fucked up no matter how you try and spin it, because you should’ve been honest and advocated for yourself and what you’re needing and want by at the time instead of ghosting like a fucking school girl😕
And he said the reason he felt not good and didn't enjoy things wasn't because ssundee was bad to him or anything. Ssundee was great. He said he felt a age gap and a power imbalance. Age gap? Thats probably apart of the power imbalance thing. And power imbalance? Ssundee's a bigger youtuber. Who crainer rode the coat tails of for years. He semi owes his career and success to ssundee. Youd think hed feel appreciative grateful and happy to have a friend like that in hour life. Crainer instead at a certain point was feeling skme kind of insecurity. From jealousy to envy. Could be either or both. He felt a kind of way about ssundee being better than him. He felt it so much he stopped enjoying recording with him. Yet he kept going til he started recording sith slogo and then and had more people to latch onto. Wouldn't hope in my wildest dreams for crainer to just have been recording with ssundee for views and not as a friend but clearly he started out doing that and ended out doing that. I just hope the middle was good. And i really just hope the goat ssundee wasn't hurt too badly from this snake in low grass.
@@parrytheplatypus6570 Ian, while they may be a bit obnoxious, has amazing friends now that he plays with everyday no matter what game it is. It just hurts to see such a fall knowing how much I watched and still watch those videos they’ve made in hindsight though it explains why crainer started slowly “weening” away from the fortnite videos they’ve made are making at the time..
Lmao love how he doesnt mention the video where lancey came down and crainer hid a rifle under a pillow so quick when he saw lancey come down with a camerea by his side
Lancey paid for his trip for his pc got him in his feet him and his girl I do believe as well then crainer stabbed him in the back and started recording eith ssundee cause bigger views and even lied to ssundee about something lancey did which he didn't do by the time Ian found out it was a lie lancey already gave up on yt so Ian start digging more and found out crainer wasn't such a a great person so Ian gave a huge apology to lancey and he thankfully accepted it but after the betrayal from crainer and being pushed from ssundee he just took a step back to think which I don't blame him crainer you suck
I can’t believe all this about crainer since I used to watch him since his crundee SSUNDEE days and loved his vids and I didn’t know all of this and the story
I've been in a situation with age gaps and knowing who you want to be friends with kind of. I tried for around a year with a Christian streamer tried to hold my tongue but at the end of day I couldn't be myself and I kind of just left. I see where he's coming from though because it's really hard to be yourself when you always have to limit how you act
Yeah. Crainer swears more but ssundee does swear as well, russel just does his job well. I think I've heard Ssundee's foul mouth and manners in one of the collabs he did with team crafted
@@submarinemagnet7965 oh yeah for sure, especially in the old cops and robbers days with SkyDoesMinecraft, jerome, etc. I believe in like the second or third episode he said some funny stuff that he wouldn't say in his kid friendly videos now. Those were the days. :)
@@parrytheplatypus6570 why do you think he always said "freaking" or "you jerk", also there was a Sky Factory video where he said "hell" and got a lecture from SSundee for it after the video. The fact is he could never really truly be himself. :)
I really don't know if him and lancey reconciled, if it's true then okay but what he did to lancey was really awful and he literally dragged ssundee to the conversation
Dude fumbled so hard on Thea. She’s went through a softie phase and now into a baddie phase. Like Flame Princess from Adventure time. Idk why Crainer would give up her and on top of that, Ssundee. Ssundee is very successful and honestly much more successful than any of them. I myself grew up with Team Crafted and I’m proud Crainer never got to join that group because as how the fallout of Team Crafted happened, Crainer would’ve been truly the nail in the coffin if present day events happened like they did today with Crainer if he had indeed joined team crafted
This breaks my heart just heard that he’s also not with Thea anymore idk if that’s true but damn I remember getting their merch and everything I’m glad He’s working on himself I know he’s done wrong but he’s young
@@mountainandmountain2895 Alcohol addiction is one thing His dad died, He also got divorced with his wife This is just a basic summary and there are some extra little reasons why he left If you want to know them go watch the podcast
Crainers story still leaves a lot of questions to be answered. He keeps claiming he was just "unhappy" with recording with ssundee and never explained what he was unhappy about. Ssundee and crainer both openly addressed in the past together that they realize ssundee is the larger content creator and ssundee usually is the entertainer, but ssundee took no offence to it and crainer was slowly catching up to ssundee and they made a great dynamic duo. Watching through the entirety of the luck block, skyfactory, crundee craft, and more I seeiously thought they were unseperable. Then crainer and ssundee both suddenly found new friend groups and entirely changed their content dynamic. Crainers videos got more corny all around feeling almost scripted while ssundee's almost has the same issue but his excuse is the content is aimed for a younger audience, which makes sense provided ssundee has children who are probly at the age to start watching his videos now.
Damn that’s crazy so basically he ghosted sssundee because he had sucked all the relevance off him and now wanted to suck the relevance from these dudes who sssundee introduced him to crazy
And to think that was just a little after he had that almost year long break to fix his marriage. Crainer waits all that time just to ditch him a few months later especially when your friend is kinda in need of the selfesteem boost to put out the content.
@@goblincruncher9936 facts like i didn't expect him to get inflamed this quickly he's 28 usually that's one of your golden years but.. 😬 is it karma? Maybe idk🤭
@@fortressfleet24 no its call being an alcoholic. He excessively consumed alcohol during his dark days as a coping mechanism and too much alcohol builds up fat quickly esp if you don't work out.
Wow. I just found this video while randomly looking up SSundee again. Can't believe Crainer straight up ghosted Ian. It's pretty unfortunate, but I at least get to see that Ian was the bigger person in all of this. I may have grown out of SSundee's content, but I have some respect for him. SSundee is the only TeamCrafted member on RUclips to be successful the entire way through, besides Post Malone.
There was a balance issue. Looking back it's very clear. I grew up on those 2. I loved their content. But it feels like SSundee was the main character and Crainer was the sidekick. Which in a way I do see how crainer was unhappy with it. But it's not a big confrontation if he's the man youve spent many hours with. Though we don't know Ian behind the camera. We know what he wants us to know so.
no ssundee was and is still too big for crainer to really get anything out of working with ssundee i remember for the longest time crainer was stuck below 500k because he got like no subs and views cause basically everyone only watched ssundees videos a select few people(including me) would then watch his video after but it didn't really do anything he was basically stuck in his shadow people only knew him as ssundees sidekick and nothing more that's probably part of the reason he didn't enjoy filming with ssundee and wanted to go do his own thing cause he wanted to be his own person and be known as himself and not be stuck in ssundees shadow and be stuck being known as ssundees sidekick
He abandoned Lancey and Lancey gave Crainer a space to live in his house they where best friends until Crainer took advantage of when Lancey had a fall out with Ssundee and he started to pretend to be good for a while and soon after Ssundee realized what happened.
I’ll never understand why crainer stopped recording with ssundee they both made my childhood I miss there lucky blocks videos it will never be the same :/ idk why crainer would ever leave his career was just popping off then slogoman and jelly lost kwebblekop and his career flopped so they got crainer and now crainer career flopped too very sad to see
Ssundee really makes me sad looking back. I thought he liked Minecraft, but seeing how he's just shifted to whatevers most popular, it was just a grift. Minecraft was just popular for that long
I have to disagree, he played other games that were MUCH less popular like Terra Tech. I think his perspective just changed, and after his life fell apart he decided to go to what could secure his career
I think what he said at the beginning really explains most of it, he just needs to confront ssundee, he and crainer are great friends and im sure if they just started talking again they would force themselves to forgive because thats what everyone does with their best friends wether they want to or not
I wish he'd apologize to Lancey. Lancey didn't deserve what Crainer did to him. Really none of them did. I've heard he's getting help, and that's good bc he needs it.
If you haven’t already found your answer, lancey gave crainer a place to live after he dropped out of college. They started filming mc together. Crainer eventually said he was going to part ways and try and do things on his own. Lancey asked Crainer once he got settled to let him know what’s up and make sure everything is ok but he proceeded to ghost lancey all while slowly stealing ssundee from his collabs. Crainer and ssundee went on to record almost everything together up to Ssundees life break(for about 1 year). When ssundee began to return to RUclips he recorded far less and Crainer was slowly faded away from the channel doing the same thing he did to lancey just in a more slow fashion.
No offence, I actually can't believe Crainer threw that all away instead of just talking to his friend. I heavily relate to Ssundee. My closest friend just did this same thing last week. 5 year friendship and he randomly ghosted me and said nothing. Crainer is in the wrong here.
Dont forget troll craft... It sad, because ever sense crainer left the colab, Ssundee has never been the same. His current colabs are allways the same, it feels scripted, and its just sad to see ssundee fall into this state of repitition, it feels like he pumps out content in order to finish the next deadline or next required video... Unlike markipler or Technoblade or Oddsoneout, alot of it just feels... disingenuous. It like they make videos now in order to prove their still there, but it hurts seeing them like this.
I’m just glad to know that Sandy did what he could and Sunday is the good side, not like crainer is “evil” just he messed up and now i dee why he only has 7 millions subs, and ssundee has 23 million and keep climbing (slowly)
Originally Ssundee said they stopped collabing due to the timezone difference, guess he was being nice.
He probably said it so that people would leave them both alone about it
We all know Ssundee really doesn't like drama, so he was nice about what happened but behind the scenes it was more deeper, tbh I don't agree with Crainer telling this, it's between friends and should of stayed it that way because we all know the internet is a fucked up place and people will either side with Crainer and insult Ssundee or people will side with Ssundee and insult Crainer. Kids take things out of context and imagine something that isn't actually there, so I'm surprised nothing major has happened since this video came out.
@@SxnisterKingit's because kids don't know who crainer was and even if they found out they would never be on crainers side gonna disrespect ssundee crainer in the interview said he was in the wrong for what he did with Lance and the problem with sundee was about how he doesn't get a lot of money because he was a small youtuber which is why he said I should have maybe talked with him but he didn't know how to
@@SxnisterKingit was only more deeper behind the scenes when Lance stated stuff about crainer
@@SxnisterKinglastly I think everyone will be on ssundee's side because he didn't do anything wrong
this guy lives such a sad life,.. used and snaked lancey, ghosted ssundee for some lame dudes and snaked them too, divorced his wife and lost some pets.... glad he's getting help tho
@@Feedinq dead
What when did he divorce man :( yeah it's kinda sad
He hardly "used" any of them. Sometimes things don't work out with business partners. Sure he could have left in better ways, but he was unhappy.
@@paradoxgaming4484he was married to Thea
Nah he straight up did Lancey dirty, there is no excuse for what he did to him@@Snoozinggg
Imagine Lancey taking care of you and your girlfriend for 3 months, and you decided to backstabbed him without his knowledge
Justice for lancey he deserved better
out of nowhere too, and without reason
He forgave him a year ago by now. Check the comments on the two/thirds crainer video
What happended?
Evil 😈
i LOVE how slowmo and jelly roll are just TRYING to start drama
Jesus loves you!
@@Mat-y7d No one gives a shit.
Honestly, this shows the downside of content creation. It's not all just sitting down and gaming, there's a lot of stuff behind the scenes. Crainer, honestly you and Ssundee need to start talking again. I remember watching your lucky block videos awhile back and they were really entertaining.
After what crainer did to Lance? Haha
I am a fan of both of them, and while I do think it’s sad that their collaboration couldn’t continue, if Crainer wasn’t enjoying it then leaving was probably the right decision for him, although I do also agree with what he said about that it could’ve been better if they’d talked about it first rather than just leaving abruptly with no warning, but I don’t think he felt comfortable doing that at that stage. I do think it’s nice to see him able to open up about this sort of thing, though.
Yeah true i reawatched them made me so happy
I love how this is basically saying “Get back together. I want more crundee content
We were once children who simply enjoyed watching Crundee stuff. Now, as young adults, the truth unravels right in front of us, and it is horrifying.
It is still acceptable if he considered his mental health and ultimately decided to move. Although it's genuinely difficult for him to send a formal notification to SSundee and say, "Hey, I am not comfortable with the collaboration," he still needed to communicate this to him. If they were true friends, at the very least, true friends could understand. Reflecting on those SkyFactory, Crundee Craft, Lucky Block Challenge, and 100 Ways to Die videos, each of them garnered millions of views. I don't believe Crainer can achieve this level of success anymore.
Defeated his addiction, sits on alot of money and has a wife, I don’t think he cares about this point happiness > RUclips success
@@zent9776divorced his wife mate
yeah crainer i just not crainer anymore
Well ssundees disstrack kinda perfectly summarizes why crainer had success, "everyone knows the only reason your videos are good is cuz they know im the entertainer"
@@hawksage5272that becomes true when he left Ssundee
I feel like he could and should have handled the situation a lot better
Sadly yes
Yeah
Crazy how crainer went from saying him and ssundee were best friends and now he won't even talk to him anymore, it's sad bro they were like the best RUclips duo at the time
And he said he left without really telling ssundee anything fr. From best friend to "i didn't enjoy it and wanted to leave. So i left without a word."
I fr just hope he was hopefully up front with ssundee off camera then. Like telling him fr if they was friends or not cause we know he was not in a good place for a few years and itd be terrible if on top of it all, he knows the main dude hes hanging with doesn't like him abd is using him for views. I just hope ssundee knew how crainer felt and wasn't too hurt.
@@parrytheplatypus6570 To be fair, their relationship definitely die out while SSundee take a year long break from RUclips, basically leaving crainer alone, and the worse part is, Crainer get hate on for trying to collab with someone else.
Honestly, I would say crainer contribute a lot to the due, and is very much less appreciated while with SSundee.
But due to the matter with lancy, it become complicated.
It all in the past now, what broken can never be the same.
I don’t even know how he can keep a straight face while lieing to everyone, it’s straight disrespect to Ssundee and everyone else if your gonna come out and say what happened just say how u wanted to use him and he found out or the u were such a bad friend, it’s just disgusting listening someone lie like that.
So true
Wait what are you talking about?
CRAINER being a snake I guess@@im_l3gend618
@@im_l3gend618he’s talking about the video
What ticks me off is he says “I know Ssundee and know he would react badly to me not wanting to record with him” my guy Ssundee isn’t petty like that and when Ssundee covered this he said he understood whatever the reason was cause he didn’t know and even wished him luck. Without the help of the people he has carelessly stepped on he wouldn’t have the fan base he has and the view amounts without Ssundee and the others he ghosted and left. And then trying to act victim is pathetic. I was never a big fan of Crainer and now this just proves what a pos he really is
I agree with you here. I’ve been watching Ssundee for years. I’m always going to side with him no matter what.
Crainer was nothing without Lancey and Ssundee
He abandoned Ssundee and it made the og made because ssundee didn’t deserve that
Yeah
Yes and no like he said he didn't like confrontation, so he just left because he didn't like the power inbalance, but he did regret not talking with him
If anyone knows what happened with crainer and lancy this story starts being way more malicious
Yeah Crainer is kind of a shitty person, he used and ditched Lancey and used him to get closer to Ssundee, i'll always despise this guy
Lancey forgave him
@@Dan-qp5tq did he? i would never forgive someone that did that to me
@@ozthebeeman I think Crainer was young and admitted completely what did he was terrible, he was trying to get ahead in his career. He apologised to Lancey and Lancey i think wanted his friend back so he forgave him
@@Dan-qp5tq ok good to know
I grew up watching SSundee, and I definitely loved the things he did together with Crainer. SkyeFactory was amazing, and the Golden Cobblestone sparked my obsession with Ars Magica 2. I also loved all of the Minecraft pranks they played on each other.
yea the series with him ssundee and cap was so good. the pixelmon series was good to
What he did to Lancey was god awful
What did he di
@@hadisahoury Was his roommate, he used him then blocked him, then snaked him which caused Lancey to fall out with Ssundee, Crainer just a pos overall
@hadisahoury also he secretly record the conversation between him and lancey and asks lancey about his thoughts about ssundee
@nev7 what's the difference between using someone and snaking them?
@@jannikattentater3838he used him for money and gifts and stuff, and then edited a recording of lancey and sent it to ssundee to cause them to fall out. First part is using, second is snaking
Crazy to think ssundee got bigger since leaving crainer
Why do they try so damn hard to make SSundee look bad? "So he was mad at you? Did you feel like you had a friendship with SSundee?" Comeon man. Crainer is so damn chill with it.
@@DrageLee I agree, and that's not what I meant. These guys are trying to dehumanize Ssundee, as if he was a horrible person and "only used Crainer". I honestly just feel bad for both of them
@Atrulion fr. Crainer was the one using him if anything. Ssundee is a star fr. He was shining before crainer and after. Crainer was the one who wanted to be apart of it. And he did. Then even with ssundee being cool and all those fun times, now crainer felt a certain way. A power imbalance. A age gap. Basically he felt ssundee was bigger than him. He felt ssundee was better and he aint like that. And ghosted ssundee with all the supoort and love ssundee gave him. Like crainers still okay ig as he at least realizes where he went wrong and all that. He made his peace, and ssundee isnt mad, but to even try and pajnt a certain picture about ssundee is some bullshit.
I guess it was true after all… his videos were only good because Ian was the entertainer.
And then Ssundee became "modern" youtube. Nothing endures anymore.
@@sonicmastersword8080 Time is the only constant. Just as is the ever expanding Space of our universe.
@@infinityheart_tm9270 Feet
The funny thing is Ian used the line 'Cause I'm the entertainer' in one of his diss raps against Crainer. Good times back then..
I got that reference
This is really messed up of crainer to do tbh. Im kinda flabbergasted that he would just up and leave ssundee fir someone as annoying as jelly 😑
Jelly can be pretty annoying at times but he's a good guy but sundee and crainer will never be the same no matter what
Really? Here we thought that Ssundee and Crainer stopped recording together because of the fanbase, claiming that crainer is just using Ssundee to rise to fame and another popular reason is that Ssundee's personal life caught up with his work and that producing videos with crainer in modpacks were too time consuming, especially the amount of off-cam grind sessions ssundee does with it. Not to mention their timezones are so so different that recording was day and night literally, so much so that Ssundee's family got into rough waters.
And now I'm hearing from crainer that he just up and went away just like that?
Well I just hope you guys made peace with each other. I have to admit, the two of you were definitely entertaining.
Ssundee said nothing happened between them at all. The split just happened one day and no hard feelings came in between them
@@merlin5411 yeah because he doesnt wanna cause drama so he will obviously not make a big deal about, still doesnt change how crainer is still a big piece of shit though
@@merlin5411yeah that’s what SSundee said because he doesn’t like drama and didnt want to start a fanbase war.
Honestly I respect the hell out of ssundee for the way he tries to avoid drama, I've always wanted to know what happened between them but looking at it now it probably would've started a fanbase war between them if he told the truth.
I remember when he uploaded the "Where have I been" video I have never seen a man look so.. defeated. As much as I don't like his newer content I'm just happy the RUclipsr I grew up watching isn't another criminal and is successful and happy nowadays.
Honestly age gap shouldnt be a problem when the two friends hang out.
I honestly don’t feel bad for Crainer here. Not because what he did wasn’t bad, no it’s awful, but because this is where it ends. He made his bed, now he’s gonna sleep in it. At the end of the day his decisions left him with a history of making a friend, using them, and then spitting them out later. He ditched 2 people but the sad thing is the first time was successful because his identity didn’t surround this person, the second time it did and that’s why when he ghosted Ssundee it blew up this bad. Crainer could’ve stuck it out with Ssundee, made a final video together and left. Instead he ghosted his friend, and ran for the mountains.
I lost respect for Crainer. Lancey gave him everything and was treating him like family, but Crainer saw it as a ladder to get to the top. And back then he didnt have the disensy to apologise. And he ghosted Ssundee and just left him without saying anything and it feels like they werent friends for all this time. So he left and betrayed Lancey then betrayed and ghosted Ssundee and went to Jelly and Josh to get more views and finally he left Jelly and Josh. Crainer is a scumbag.
Someone clearly hasn’t watched the actual podcast episode
@@joeramsay6269 i rewatched it twice my guy.
@@joeramsay6269 someone clearly doesnt know enough background on crainer. He's absolutely correct.
And the fact we all know if SSUNDEE would have been their then he wouldnt have said those things
Anyone notice how he called ssundee a great friend then a minute later said yes to josh and jelly being his first and only real friends?
What the
I havent seen anything crainer related in years dear god does he look so different
This really needs more attention
Why does it? If I speak for myself which I will, I watched every single episode of there skyblock series, And I can tell in all of the recordings now that I look back at it, Ssunde was "The boss" In them. And i feel that this does not need attention, People need to be moving on, Not looking back
ssundee just be like not mad just bro my viewers love the crainer and ssundee duo
Crainer we feel you but i wish you guys could still record I miss it and I just want the old days back…..
Bro gave SSundee the father treatment
I prefer Biffle, Sigils, and Zud. Honestly they’re hilarious together.
Totally agree, I miss Crainer in the videos but after hearing what happened I feel no sympathy. Biffle, Sigils, and Zud seem much more genuine and overall hilarious.
@@braden2233 Biffle and Sigils was from Jeromeasf. Left him for more views ae left jerome to be with ssundee ...
doesn't matter, i was there since the lucky blocks originals, time well spent thank you
As someone that grew up watching the two of you genuinely grow together via content, I need to understand how you as a grown man didn’t decide that this was an instance where you needed to swallow whatever it is you got going on and have a conversation with your FRIEND😕 the way you did ssundee is fucked up no matter how you try and spin it, because you should’ve been honest and advocated for yourself and what you’re needing and want by at the time instead of ghosting like a fucking school girl😕
And he said the reason he felt not good and didn't enjoy things wasn't because ssundee was bad to him or anything. Ssundee was great. He said he felt a age gap and a power imbalance. Age gap? Thats probably apart of the power imbalance thing. And power imbalance? Ssundee's a bigger youtuber. Who crainer rode the coat tails of for years. He semi owes his career and success to ssundee. Youd think hed feel appreciative grateful and happy to have a friend like that in hour life. Crainer instead at a certain point was feeling skme kind of insecurity. From jealousy to envy. Could be either or both. He felt a kind of way about ssundee being better than him. He felt it so much he stopped enjoying recording with him. Yet he kept going til he started recording sith slogo and then and had more people to latch onto. Wouldn't hope in my wildest dreams for crainer to just have been recording with ssundee for views and not as a friend but clearly he started out doing that and ended out doing that. I just hope the middle was good. And i really just hope the goat ssundee wasn't hurt too badly from this snake in low grass.
@@parrytheplatypus6570 Ian, while they may be a bit obnoxious, has amazing friends now that he plays with everyday no matter what game it is. It just hurts to see such a fall knowing how much I watched and still watch those videos they’ve made in hindsight though it explains why crainer started slowly “weening” away from the fortnite videos they’ve made are making at the time..
Lmao love how he doesnt mention the video where lancey came down and crainer hid a rifle under a pillow so quick when he saw lancey come down with a camerea by his side
Lancey paid for his trip for his pc got him in his feet him and his girl I do believe as well then crainer stabbed him in the back and started recording eith ssundee cause bigger views and even lied to ssundee about something lancey did which he didn't do by the time Ian found out it was a lie lancey already gave up on yt so Ian start digging more and found out crainer wasn't such a a great person so Ian gave a huge apology to lancey and he thankfully accepted it but after the betrayal from crainer and being pushed from ssundee he just took a step back to think which I don't blame him crainer you suck
I can’t believe all this about crainer since I used to watch him since his crundee SSUNDEE days and loved his vids and I didn’t know all of this and the story
Let’s be honest, the best SSundee videos are the ones with crainer in it or biffle
I've been in a situation with age gaps and knowing who you want to be friends with kind of. I tried for around a year with a Christian streamer tried to hold my tongue but at the end of day I couldn't be myself and I kind of just left. I see where he's coming from though because it's really hard to be yourself when you always have to limit how you act
Yeah. Crainer swears more but ssundee does swear as well, russel just does his job well. I think I've heard Ssundee's foul mouth and manners in one of the collabs he did with team crafted
@@submarinemagnet7965 oh yeah for sure, especially in the old cops and robbers days with SkyDoesMinecraft, jerome, etc. I believe in like the second or third episode he said some funny stuff that he wouldn't say in his kid friendly videos now. Those were the days. :)
Ian was in the USAF, lots of swearing from everyone lmao.
Crainer didn't have to hold his tongue or any of that, tho.
@@parrytheplatypus6570 why do you think he always said "freaking" or "you jerk", also there was a Sky Factory video where he said "hell" and got a lecture from SSundee for it after the video. The fact is he could never really truly be himself. :)
"Huge age gap" and hes 30 while ssundee is 36. DAMN thats HUGE
I really don't know if him and lancey reconciled, if it's true then okay but what he did to lancey was really awful and he literally dragged ssundee to the conversation
Thought Crainer was a great guy and then heard about what he has done. I can't believe he did the things he has done to Lancey and SSundee.
Dude fumbled so hard on Thea. She’s went through a softie phase and now into a baddie phase. Like Flame Princess from Adventure time. Idk why Crainer would give up her and on top of that, Ssundee. Ssundee is very successful and honestly much more successful than any of them. I myself grew up with Team Crafted and I’m proud Crainer never got to join that group because as how the fallout of Team Crafted happened, Crainer would’ve been truly the nail in the coffin if present day events happened like they did today with Crainer if he had indeed joined team crafted
i'm dissapointed in crainer, he had everything and then lost everything just as fast
This breaks my heart just heard that he’s also not with Thea anymore idk if that’s true but damn I remember getting their merch and everything I’m glad He’s working on himself I know he’s done wrong but he’s young
Watched the whole podcast now I really understand why he left
Why?
@@FirstnameLastname-ex7vi damn straight
Why?
@@mountainandmountain2895 Alcohol addiction is one thing
His dad died,
He also got divorced with his wife
This is just a basic summary and there are some extra little reasons why he left
If you want to know them go watch the podcast
@@mountainandmountain2895 damn straight
Crainers story still leaves a lot of questions to be answered. He keeps claiming he was just "unhappy" with recording with ssundee and never explained what he was unhappy about. Ssundee and crainer both openly addressed in the past together that they realize ssundee is the larger content creator and ssundee usually is the entertainer, but ssundee took no offence to it and crainer was slowly catching up to ssundee and they made a great dynamic duo. Watching through the entirety of the luck block, skyfactory, crundee craft, and more I seeiously thought they were unseperable. Then crainer and ssundee both suddenly found new friend groups and entirely changed their content dynamic. Crainers videos got more corny all around feeling almost scripted while ssundee's almost has the same issue but his excuse is the content is aimed for a younger audience, which makes sense provided ssundee has children who are probly at the age to start watching his videos now.
I didn't recognize Crainer at first but wow he changed alot and his voice changed
His voice didn't change, he just stopped faking it lol
Ssundee was so sad he stopped Recording for 15 days 😢
Crundee was the Best Duo Collaboration in my childhood opinion.
Yes
Imagine leaving Ssundee for the lesser version of him
Damn that’s crazy so basically he ghosted sssundee because he had sucked all the relevance off him and now wanted to suck the relevance from these dudes who sssundee introduced him to crazy
And to think that was just a little after he had that almost year long break to fix his marriage. Crainer waits all that time just to ditch him a few months later especially when your friend is kinda in need of the selfesteem boost to put out the content.
Who Misses Crainer and Lancey in Ssundee videos its 2024 Dec 23 Im still rewatching every video of Ssundee
so disappointed with crainer
No
Same
Don't shame Crainer he just couldn't handle it plus there was a difference in timezones
@@carmangaming124Come on man, timezones, really, him and SSundee pretty much recorded everyday for 10 plus years, its something bigger then timezones
@@carmangaming124that was complete bs lol they had been doing that for 6 7 years 😂😂
he glowed down...
Fr looks like he put on some weight
@@goblincruncher9936 facts like i didn't expect him to get inflamed this quickly he's 28 usually that's one of your golden years but.. 😬 is it karma? Maybe idk🤭
@@myanabooka lot of gamers done move around and get enough exercise.
Pretty sure it's called aging
@@fortressfleet24 no its call being an alcoholic. He excessively consumed alcohol during his dark days as a coping mechanism and too much alcohol builds up fat quickly esp if you don't work out.
Ehh the sky factory is one of the best creations ssundee and Crainer started 😔😔😔one of the best😊😊
Wow. I just found this video while randomly looking up SSundee again.
Can't believe Crainer straight up ghosted Ian. It's pretty unfortunate, but I at least get to see that Ian was the bigger person in all of this.
I may have grown out of SSundee's content, but I have some respect for him. SSundee is the only TeamCrafted member on RUclips to be successful the entire way through, besides Post Malone.
I mean I know what he means by there being no balance ssundee is very dominant.
He’s always winning. But you could call it a skill issue
Sundee is still always winning in his videos to date
Only the ones on his channel
There was a balance issue. Looking back it's very clear. I grew up on those 2. I loved their content. But it feels like SSundee was the main character and Crainer was the sidekick. Which in a way I do see how crainer was unhappy with it. But it's not a big confrontation if he's the man youve spent many hours with. Though we don't know Ian behind the camera. We know what he wants us to know so.
I realized this when watching him play fortnite with his friends HE ALWAYS wins which just kinda ruined it for me cuz I felt it was scripted
It’s crazy cause crainer treated lancey like shit like 10+ years ago
YO I HAVE THAT SAME TREE IN MY HOUSE
They legit stopped playing in the middle of a series 😂
It feels like they were really trying to get a ssundee meltdown confession out of crainer
Tbh crainer could have gotten way more subscribers if he had stayed
no ssundee was and is still too big for crainer to really get anything out of working with ssundee i remember for the longest time crainer was stuck below 500k because he got like no subs and views cause basically everyone only watched ssundees videos a select few people(including me) would then watch his video after but it didn't really do anything he was basically stuck in his shadow people only knew him as ssundees sidekick and nothing more that's probably part of the reason he didn't enjoy filming with ssundee and wanted to go do his own thing cause he wanted to be his own person and be known as himself and not be stuck in ssundees shadow and be stuck being known as ssundees sidekick
The explanation i hear is about Crainer using lancey to get close to ssundee and ruined their friendship
Crainer you betray SSundee
Tbh I want to see a huge collaboration with Crainer and ssundee again huhuhuhu
Bro singly handly ended any chance of another FTB with Lancey…
And to think, ssundee was so upset at one point from this he stopped recording for15 days
Dang. Sad to see this is how this part of my childhood went.
He abandoned Lancey and Lancey gave Crainer a space to live in his house they where best friends until Crainer took advantage of when Lancey had a fall out with Ssundee and he started to pretend to be good for a while and soon after Ssundee realized what happened.
I just want these two to record a video again like just 1
God I haven't seen him in fucking years, looks like a different person
Crainer called Ssundee his best friend multiple times and now he’s saying they weren’t true friends lol ok. Completely lost my respect
I miss the old ssundde and Crainer videos
Crainer plays victim but Lancey was truly betrayed by both of them.
Id miss their crundee dynamic
Ssundee and crainer need to do sky factory again
I’ll never understand why crainer stopped recording with ssundee they both made my childhood I miss there lucky blocks videos it will never be the same :/ idk why crainer would ever leave his career was just popping off then slogoman and jelly lost kwebblekop and his career flopped so they got crainer and now crainer career flopped too very sad to see
honestly crainer did this to himself. bro currently is struggling to crack more than 50k per video while ssundee racks up a million in a day
crainer was lucky for meeting ssundee
How refreshingly honest.
I miss them... ;(
Ssundee really makes me sad looking back. I thought he liked Minecraft, but seeing how he's just shifted to whatevers most popular, it was just a grift. Minecraft was just popular for that long
I have to disagree, he played other games that were MUCH less popular like Terra Tech. I think his perspective just changed, and after his life fell apart he decided to go to what could secure his career
I think what he said at the beginning really explains most of it, he just needs to confront ssundee, he and crainer are great friends and im sure if they just started talking again they would force themselves to forgive because thats what everyone does with their best friends wether they want to or not
No they would not
this guys a freaking snake in the grass
Ironic that the man who backstabbed Lancy got backstabbed by Ssundee
I miss fortnite ssundee...
Sad noises.
That’s why his videos have 40k views on average now
this is so sad i use to watch thee guys in their shadow of israpheal series
he was unhappy cuz almost every video they made together was mainly about ssundee
look at who now joined sundee
I wish he'd apologize to Lancey. Lancey didn't deserve what Crainer did to him. Really none of them did. I've heard he's getting help, and that's good bc he needs it.
Can someone explain what happened? Especially the lancy thing
If you haven’t already found your answer, lancey gave crainer a place to live after he dropped out of college. They started filming mc together. Crainer eventually said he was going to part ways and try and do things on his own. Lancey asked Crainer once he got settled to let him know what’s up and make sure everything is ok but he proceeded to ghost lancey all while slowly stealing ssundee from his collabs. Crainer and ssundee went on to record almost everything together up to Ssundees life break(for about 1 year). When ssundee began to return to RUclips he recorded far less and Crainer was slowly faded away from the channel doing the same thing he did to lancey just in a more slow fashion.
All these old mc RUclipsrs are all doing podcasts now, I think it’s bc it’s basically what they were doing in there videos, js talking and having fun
Where do I find the full interview
R.I.P. Crundee
Crainer says they still talk but in a video of sunndee he said crainer blocked him 😢😢😢
What?! When?!
The crush of one of the best RUclips duos of all time 🫡
No offence, I actually can't believe Crainer threw that all away instead of just talking to his friend. I heavily relate to Ssundee. My closest friend just did this same thing last week. 5 year friendship and he randomly ghosted me and said nothing. Crainer is in the wrong here.
Why dose slogo voice sound like dantdm
Ssundee said they stopped because of time zones because Crainer lived in Denmark
He probably only said that so people would stop asking about them
Dont forget troll craft... It sad, because ever sense crainer left the colab, Ssundee has never been the same. His current colabs are allways the same, it feels scripted, and its just sad to see ssundee fall into this state of repitition, it feels like he pumps out content in order to finish the next deadline or next required video... Unlike markipler or Technoblade or Oddsoneout, alot of it just feels... disingenuous. It like they make videos now in order to prove their still there, but it hurts seeing them like this.
I think sunde's new content direction has less to do with crainer and more towards a change in audience and wanting to work on his family more
What he did to lancey and sundee was fucked up.
I’m just glad to know that Sandy did what he could and Sunday is the good side, not like crainer is “evil” just he messed up and now i dee why he only has 7 millions subs, and ssundee has 23 million and keep climbing (slowly)