WHEN I MET HIM HE WAS BIG MAN FROM ES 53RD ST AGC.HE STARTED CALLING HIM SELF CARTOON IN JUVENILE HALL OR C.Y.A..I WAS BOTH PLACES WIT THIS LOONATIC,PHYSCO AZZ NUT CASE.😁YEA THAT'S MY DUDE RIGHT THERE,HAVEN'T SEEN HIM SINCE 1982-83.😎
@Wazzam Brother Long Time.. And yes Big Rebo instantly came to mind. I often find myself going back listening to that Big Rebo interview (May He Rest His Soul) 🙏
@@md3dasnipa386 I had a pleasure of running across Big Rebo. (RIP)in the county jail when he had a violation he taught me a whole lot in that short period of time I was able to learn from the OG 💯 it was an honor and a privilege to learn from one of the best to ever do it 💯
@@crayzo3rc That's Amazing bruh, He sold me when he mentioned he was originally from DA BOOT, Me being from Louisiana I instantly related. And even though he was Compton, California breed he still had a lot Louisiana ways about himself. So yeah we truly took a huge loss when he passed.
I remember cartoon back in the early 80s when he gave me a pass,I’m from 56 BSV and I stayed on 54th and McKinley,I remember cartoon,gangsta Ed,whom I still keep in contact with,crazy Ray rip,lil man,list goes on,I use to go swimming up at South Park,
I appreciate the breakdown of the Crip organizations, he shared a perspective that was new to me, and I heard it all in those trenches. Keep it coming 💯
It’s definitely good to finally hear the homie Toons story I had been hearing about him for over 15 years now because my close homie Big Demon aka big Roadblocc was locked up with Cartoon in prison in Alabama many years do I heard many stories so to see him now and hear it is incredible. Thank you fir this KMV. Another classic
I listen to these videos and respect the work Kev, Melle, Skipp, myself(619) 59 Brims and my homeboy Stacy Butler (619) Lincoln Park, Cornelious Bowser (619) Westcoast Crips and Curtis Howard NH 40s Crip and many others are doing with getting the knowledge and history out to the masses about the gang culture its history, the founders from all hoods etc...and all I can think about when listening to all the history and commentary is what it would have been like throughout the black communities if we never banged and actually became one big set for unity, for the advancement of our people. I hate that I was ever involved in the phuckery!!! I apologize to my communities around the United States!!!
That was realest thing he said and I say today was we as Raymond’s was automatically labeled Blue notes. Even hitting pen or county OSS WILL SAY U BLUE NOTE EVEN IF U WASNT THEY WAS PUTTING IN UR FILE
GIVING A SHOT OUT TO MY REAL FRIEND , OOOG DOC ROC ORIGINAL 5 TRAY AVALON CA-RIPS , ONE LOVE FOREVER DOC ROC , RECALL HOW I SAVED YOU FROM THE 84 SWANS ON AVALON AND 84 STREET IN 1989.OOOG FROG#1, WATTS HAPPENING.
@@KevMacVideos KEITHSTONE & CARTOON , BOTH 100 PERCENT SPEAKING FROM THEIR HEARTS , AND WE ALL DON'T HAVE THE SAME HEARTS , KEITH STONE REFUSE TO BE BRAND AS A ( BUSTER) & BIG CARTOON IS READY TO BLAST A (BUSTER) . I'M FEELING YOU BOTH AS LION HEARTS AS MYSELF USE TO BE BACK IN THE 1970S &,1980S . (OOOG FROG#1, WATTS HAPPENING)
9:59 I see my childhood, playground Michael Williams (green pants). He used live on 103rd Street and San Pedro Street back in the 1970s and early 1980s. On the basketball court he Baby Iceman George Gervin🏀He and his family moved to the AG projects in the mid-1980s. Mike is cool peeps like a brother to me.
You can't mention the Original Avalon Gardens without mentioning Jimel Barnes. He is one of the Original A.G. Boys. He definitely went south later on though.
Their has to be somebody out there who can speak to Jimel Barnes Character in the beginning. 1 thing ℹ do know people like to distort the truth with blurred lines🤔🔵🔴🟢
Random question hopefully one of the OGs can answer this, any reputable crops that were in that pelican bay riot in 2000? Any names from the monster Kody book
Monster didn't really care, he was a high ranked Lieutenant within the CCO & he reported to R60 MotorMouse. But you have to understand that Monster has a longstanding relationship with the 60's, before the 83's & 60's fell out in 79 they were extremely close & all got along, so despite the rivalry between the G'z & the NH's Monster was a certified reputable that could walk amongst any group in any circle.
So Southern Mexicans, Northern Mexicans, and whites all fell under their on unified structure yet the brothers fell under splintered sects. That’s sad.
Southern and Northern Mexicans exist BECAUSE of splintering with some cats from Salinas forming NF and leaving eMe.Now they(Nortenos & Surenos) have a truce and do actively kick it on the yard though
No really even with the divide Brothas do t do Simon says, they do what they are told m brothas have a choice. And don’t get paperwork mixed up with race. Mexicans just as divided here in Cali , Southern , Northern , Picas , Bulldogs, and whites also have clicks based on location.
@Ant Jim I'm aware that many original NF members were from L.A. and East L.A. to be sepcific.NO Cars from Southern Cali ever broke off to join NF tho.You must be confusing the Maravillas or something and they ride SUR in the pen.that was just an L.A. County jail thing.None of that matters now since the NF and eMe both actively kick it on the yards and have a truce going on
I dnt understand...monster was cco..but also 8 trey right?..so how is cco mostly 60s?...dnt 8 trey n 60s h8 each other?..and yes I'm from way outta town (new york)..so I don't kno any
UBN - United Blood Nation - is for the bloods. The CCO and Blue Notes were two different Crip Prison ideologies. Aryan Brotherhood and Peckerwoods were white. Mexican mafia and Nuestra Family is Mexican.
Do the Crips have a modern day organization in prison? We know about CCO, Blue Notes & Blue Magic etc, but currently in 2021 do the Crips have any collective organizations on the yard right now?
@Brick City Soldiers FOH I'm not no officer, I was just asking the question because they talk about CCO & Blue Notes all the time but that was back in the 70's & 80's. An officer would already know if there was a new organization & wouldn't have to ask.
Yo this guy can only talk about 5 Trey he cannot say nothing on the original Avalon matter of fact he do not speak on the original Avalon's he cannot speak on win the when the five Trey was born the trays was it the original baby Crips of Avalon who was the original Avalon from South Park his name was Baby J that name was the first C-note at SouthPark that is the real story heaven heaven Been Told
@@jontaedavis5006 yo this is j the original OG Avalon from South Park Avalon is the old g's the baby Avalon was the five tray that how it was the meeting was on mettler Street Morgan clay suggested it to me for it to register as Avalon five tray Crips 🤫
WHEN I MET HIM HE WAS BIG MAN FROM ES 53RD ST AGC.HE STARTED CALLING HIM SELF CARTOON IN JUVENILE HALL OR C.Y.A..I WAS BOTH PLACES WIT THIS LOONATIC,PHYSCO AZZ NUT CASE.😁YEA THAT'S MY DUDE RIGHT THERE,HAVEN'T SEEN HIM SINCE 1982-83.😎
Kev you documented another winner. Cartoon real articulate dude. Good history, very diplomatic
I agree. I want to get him face to face gee’d up instant classic
@Brick City Soldiers maybe we can get an original 88 Avalon “Garden” to speak to that.
This Cartoon series got that Big Rebo (RIP) feel to it!!! Classic uncut raw and unfiltered...💯💙💪 #kmv #kevmacvideos
🗣💯
@Wazzam Brother Long Time.. And yes Big Rebo instantly came to mind. I often find myself going back listening to that Big Rebo interview (May He Rest His Soul) 🙏
@@md3dasnipa386 I had a pleasure of running across Big Rebo. (RIP)in the county jail when he had a violation he taught me a whole lot in that short period of time I was able to learn from the OG 💯 it was an honor and a privilege to learn from one of the best to ever do it 💯
@@crayzo3rc That's Amazing bruh, He sold me when he mentioned he was originally from DA BOOT, Me being from Louisiana I instantly related. And even though he was Compton, California breed he still had a lot Louisiana ways about himself. So yeah we truly took a huge loss when he passed.
I remember cartoon back in the early 80s when he gave me a pass,I’m from 56 BSV and I stayed on 54th and McKinley,I remember cartoon,gangsta Ed,whom I still keep in contact with,crazy Ray rip,lil man,list goes on,I use to go swimming up at South Park,
I did do that somtimes
@@cartoon5390 cartoon, u kno lil katoe and baby katoe frm 59 East Coast?
I appreciate the breakdown of the Crip organizations, he shared a perspective that was new to me, and I heard it all in those trenches. Keep it coming 💯
Now we need that 88AGC interview
Dope Kev Mac... I heard Marcus " OOOG CHINA DOGG " Nunn is home... we need that interview ASAP 💯👌🔴
The original china dogg¿¿¿¿
@@chrisreed255 Yeah The Original China Dogg
@@NoName-is2es not to be disrespectful they have plenty of video's saying he was killed way back in the day
@@chrisreed255 I HAVE HIS NEW FREEDOM PHOTO OF 2021, UHURU SASA !!! (OOOG FROG#1 , WATTS HAPPENING.
@@chrisreed255 that was lil China Dog he got killed in 88 or 89
This Avalon series is an instant Classic! You should bundle this up in one package video...
Everytime Kev drop a new video its becomes an instant favorite, keep dropping classics Big Homie.
It’s definitely good to finally hear the homie Toons story I had been hearing about him for over 15 years now because my close homie Big Demon aka big Roadblocc was locked up with Cartoon in prison in Alabama many years do I heard many stories so to see him now and hear it is incredible. Thank you fir this KMV. Another classic
I listen to these videos and respect the work Kev, Melle, Skipp, myself(619) 59 Brims and my homeboy Stacy Butler (619) Lincoln Park, Cornelious Bowser (619) Westcoast Crips and Curtis Howard NH 40s Crip and many others are doing with getting the knowledge and history out to the masses about the gang culture its history, the founders from all hoods etc...and all I can think about when listening to all the history and commentary is what it would have been like throughout the black communities if we never banged and actually became one big set for unity, for the advancement of our people. I hate that I was ever involved in the phuckery!!! I apologize to my communities around the United States!!!
That was realest thing he said and I say today was we as Raymond’s was automatically labeled Blue notes. Even hitting pen or county OSS WILL SAY U BLUE NOTE EVEN IF U WASNT THEY WAS PUTTING IN UR FILE
GIVING A SHOT OUT TO MY REAL FRIEND , OOOG DOC ROC ORIGINAL 5 TRAY AVALON CA-RIPS , ONE LOVE FOREVER DOC ROC , RECALL HOW I SAVED YOU FROM THE 84 SWANS ON AVALON AND 84 STREET IN 1989.OOOG FROG#1, WATTS HAPPENING.
These Kev Mac videos are starting to feel like 2017/2018 again. Leggo💯
Like Monster said about Rebo, Cartoon is a Crip’s Crip also. True to the cause til the end
Straight laced no extras wit Toon solid dude ✊🏾💪🏾
Time for a fuccn Grammy my bro
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Cartoon respect to u interview is classic watch again material!!
Cartoon is very informative KMac another golden mic 🎤award for you
Was thinking bout this interview last night and it pops up today ! Gotta know I’m rewatching it
Shout out Kev Mac, Cartoon gives great interviews 👏🏿 content is King
Very good history you can always learn something new on KM Videos.
Jamel name come up
So much 🤣😭😭 I need the real on him
Keep them coming💥🔥
Great interview heard some things on this interview very interesting and connected some dots.I love your in depth interviews
Cartoon true big homie that keep it 💯 with u.
Great 👍🏾 interview
He explained shit well and you can tell He’s one of those originals
Good interview Kev cartoon did a great interview I enjoyed it very much his honesty and memory is very good
I agree, he did great.
@@KevMacVideos KEITHSTONE & CARTOON , BOTH 100 PERCENT SPEAKING FROM THEIR HEARTS , AND WE ALL DON'T HAVE THE SAME HEARTS , KEITH STONE REFUSE TO BE BRAND AS A ( BUSTER) & BIG CARTOON IS READY TO BLAST A (BUSTER) . I'M FEELING YOU BOTH AS LION HEARTS AS MYSELF USE TO BE BACK IN THE 1970S &,1980S . (OOOG FROG#1, WATTS HAPPENING)
Wat up frog this cart53n I really enjoyed ur interviews to your name rang bells bacc in the day
@@cartoon5390 man bro your the truth great interview
NG'A JAMEL STARTED AVALON PARK CRIP ORIGINAL ORIGINAL !!!
Haven't seen my boy cartoon since Pelican Bay 91 92
Great interview Kev ✊🏾💯
Truth between the Lines!
Great interview kmv
Good to see toon bro did time with me in Alabama
Rest Well Big James Miller WS HARLEM Godfathers and Mr.Bone ES 5Tray AGCs
This cartoon series was a classic
Good interview
Man this is classic!!!!!!!!
9:59 I see my childhood, playground Michael Williams (green pants). He used live on 103rd Street and San Pedro Street back in the 1970s and early 1980s. On the basketball court he Baby Iceman George Gervin🏀He and his family moved to the AG projects in the mid-1980s. Mike is cool peeps like a brother to me.
Another great interview Kev.. 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Cartoon sound like a real one
Need Too Interview A Long Beach 20 Or A Insane .. would Like too Hear more on LB
Well spoken cat
You can't mention the Original Avalon Gardens without mentioning Jimel Barnes. He is one of the Original A.G. Boys. He definitely went south later on though.
Their has to be somebody out there who can speak to Jimel Barnes Character in the beginning. 1 thing ℹ do know people like to distort the truth with blurred lines🤔🔵🔴🟢
Went South how?
I was just thinking that like why are they trying to delete him from the history?
Jimel gets no respect for some reason
Good shit crip
I was talking to the 👿 once and he told me strait up "yes we pay your people to do and say things.". Ok
Random question hopefully one of the OGs can answer this, any reputable crops that were in that pelican bay riot in 2000? Any names from the monster Kody book
I never understand UBN and BL because eveytime i was locked up BlooDL moved as 1. Thats a strong California ideology.
Does anyone know if Monster ever addressed how he felt about 60's dominanting the ranks of CCO?
Monster didn't really care, he was a high ranked Lieutenant within the CCO & he reported to R60 MotorMouse. But you have to understand that Monster has a longstanding relationship with the 60's, before the 83's & 60's fell out in 79 they were extremely close & all got along, so despite the rivalry between the G'z & the NH's Monster was a certified reputable that could walk amongst any group in any circle.
I think he breaks this down in his book. If I'm not mistaken.
@@wolf7el356 💯 rip monster
So Southern Mexicans, Northern Mexicans, and whites all fell under their on unified structure yet the brothers fell under splintered sects. That’s sad.
Southern and Northern Mexicans exist BECAUSE of splintering with some cats from Salinas forming NF and leaving eMe.Now they(Nortenos & Surenos) have a truce and do actively kick it on the yard though
A whole lot of ppl were just treated as sacrifices to those structures tho
No really even with the divide Brothas do t do Simon says, they do what they are told m brothas have a choice. And don’t get paperwork mixed up with race. Mexicans just as divided here in Cali , Southern , Northern , Picas , Bulldogs, and whites also have clicks based on location.
All them races have division. The dynamic of prison is a trip
@Ant Jim I'm aware that many original NF members were from L.A. and East L.A. to be sepcific.NO Cars from Southern Cali ever broke off to join NF tho.You must be confusing the Maravillas or something and they ride SUR in the pen.that was just an L.A. County jail thing.None of that matters now since the NF and eMe both actively kick it on the yards and have a truce going on
I dnt understand...monster was cco..but also 8 trey right?..so how is cco mostly 60s?...dnt 8 trey n 60s h8 each other?..and yes I'm from way outta town (new york)..so I don't kno any
You leave street shit on the streets
They was tight at one time . They all west side but stuff happened and they split. Watch the channel, you will learn(krs-one voice)
@SelfMade Boss I can't speak on the crip organizations but the Damus are here
@@damuaskari2275 I feel u
In prison the CCO squashed the street beefs for the sake of black unity.
As up Trayz up
cowboy did that on AG 88
My question is so you from a hood and then you go too prison and join a prison gang ? Blue notes and CCos are crips or bloods
They are crips
UBN - United Blood Nation - is for the bloods. The CCO and Blue Notes were two different Crip Prison ideologies. Aryan Brotherhood and Peckerwoods were white. Mexican mafia and Nuestra Family is Mexican.
Do the Crips have a modern day organization in prison?
We know about CCO, Blue Notes & Blue Magic etc, but currently in 2021 do the Crips have any collective organizations on the yard right now?
Good ?
@Brick City Soldiers FOH I'm not no officer, I was just asking the question because they talk about CCO & Blue Notes all the time but that was back in the 70's & 80's. An officer would already know if there was a new organization & wouldn't have to ask.
@Brick City Soldiers STFU bruh, ain't nobody police.
@Brick City Soldiers why would police care about crips in prison lmao stfu, it was a legit question.
@Brick City Soldiers stop acting like this sum top secret shit buster, lol nigga that shit on google if jus looked hard enough FOH
KMV
i was on DR in 91
U made it off?
Does he mean the BGF
When they say Vanguard???
No
Need a 88AG interview
#California prison gangs/organization🏋 generals only .
Somebody break down, what is blue note and cco?
Read Monster Kody book.
@@KevMacVideos oh fasho say less.
Yo this guy can only talk about 5 Trey he cannot say nothing on the original Avalon matter of fact he do not speak on the original Avalon's he cannot speak on win the when the five Trey was born the trays was it the original baby Crips of Avalon who was the original Avalon from South Park his name was Baby J that name was the first C-note at SouthPark that is the real story heaven heaven Been Told
What year did 53 form and was baby j a founder of the 53 agc
@@jontaedavis5006 yo this is j the original OG Avalon from South Park Avalon is the old g's the baby Avalon was the five tray that how it was the meeting was on mettler Street Morgan clay suggested it to me for it to register as Avalon five tray Crips 🤫
@@jerrylawrence172 oh ok so Morgan clay was a co founder
Code red nobody watching is into anything illegal lol ftp
Kev.mac is active ✔ 💯
Facts
Super