Deadly Myth - Comair Flight 3272
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Comair Flight 3272 was a Comair flight on January 9, 1997, from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport to Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Airport. 
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I’m a pilot now. My fathers best friend was a passenger on board so I always knew of the incident. I was 1 at the time, but just studied it for the first time. Rest easy Leo, my dad misses you and thanks for the stuffed frog.
The Slav Snob rip, such a scary job
RIP to your fathers and family’s friend Leo.
@@woodwardchili1971 thanks friend. I hope 2020 has been fair to you!
@@theslavsnob3229 hey how is your job a pilot going sir?
@@odysseyguy8706 could certainly be better! Lol
Can’t even imagine what must be going through the pilots minds when they
realise they can’t recover a dive. The audio really is chilling, another great video.
All the passengers behind them...
Well as they crash I'm pretty sure what goes through their mind is the instrument panel and probably the nose of the plane..
Fuck you orangie
Sick fuck making a joke like that
You should seek help and find out why you are how you are
And fuck you too ybm
Sad that there are people like you in this world
Yeah, I take yellowbikemike's comment to mean that the pilot has all of the passengers lives on his mind. Not the passengers physically going through his mind. But I have been wrong before.
The first officer (Ken Reece) was a friend of mine. He was a multi-talented young man. As a high school student I hired him as a weekend dj at a Monterey, Ca radio station. He also did commercial time sales for us. He worked as an auto mechanic. He restored two classic cars and he also put in a beautiful paver stone walkway at his parents hone in Carmel. Flying was his real passion and calling. I remember getting the phone call from his step-dad about the crash. It was a gut-wrenching call. Every January 9th I think of Ken and the people on the flight. In 2021 it will be 24 years
Condolences and appreciate the insight and tribute - Rest to all
So sad and tragic when people, especially when they're still young, unnecessary lose their lives.
Yikes, I felt the fear in his words, so sad...
Pilots “last words” certainly added to the disturbing realism of this video. However, on the other hand, your videos do provide valuable information about why these mishaps occur, and can be learned from it. Thanks for that.
I lost two co-workers on this flight. Two of the nicest people you’d ever want to meet. I left work at around 4 PM, due to the heavy snow and my hour drive home. When I heard that there had been a crash, I was hoping that my friends were not on board. Sadly, they were....
Probably the most heartbreaking last words on a comm
There's so much bad luck in this one, even this video crashed and had to be re-uploaded!
western 2605 was pretty bad
El
PSA Flight 182 after a mid-air collision in 1978 doomed it: "Ma, I love ya" (source of audio unknown.) A moment earlier the pilot reported "Tower, we're going down, this is PSA" and Lindbergh Tower responded "OK, we'll call the equipment for you." So ordinary, so sad.
For me the saddest one was on the LOT flight 5055:
Goodnight, goodbye, bye, were dying...
5:30
"At 3:53pm, the pilots are vectored to a heading of 180 and instructed to slow down further to 150knots".
"The pilots then discuss the controller's seemingly short-term memory and repetitive instructions."
"At 3:53pm, the pilots are vectored to a heading of 180 and instructed to slow down further to 150knots".
Ironic.
Should I said unable 150
i think x pilot just accidentally put the same line twice
I think most people would agree when I say that the pilot's last words were quite sad and disturbing. You can hear the dread in his voice. Knowing that he and the passengers were seconds from breathing their last breaths. Chilling. RIP and my sincerest condolences to all the passengers and crew that died in that ill fated plane crash.💐💐💐
I am Kiki Do you love me?
Lovely heartfelt message x
@@kingbuck427 yes I do😘
Your condolences to the dead? Great, I am sure they appreciate them from their tombs.
I am one of the victims relatives and I appreciate your kindness. Netflix and chill?
That's enough of this channel today. It really takes a toll on you 😫
Nice, just as I finished binge watching all of your other videos yesterday, there comes more content. Can't imagine the terror they must've felt when the captain spoke those last words ... really haunting.
Thankfully a very quick and painless death.. like most nosedive crashes. The dive is the shitty part, the terror and knowledge of inevitable doom.
@@Orkel2 "quick and painless" or so we hope
Seems like the Comair deice policy was akin to waiting to turn on your windshield defroster after your windshield has been iced over while driving.
Back in the day that's how we were trained - they beat in to our heads that bridging would occur if the boots were activated too soon.
@@winstonchurchill3597 seems like it was just asking for trouble. 🤔
@@pmvaldez1 Worked for over a decade that I flew turbo props in some nasty icing conditions - since then I've moved on to the major airlines with completely different systems for deice. I do remember right before leaving for my "jet job" in 1999 they came out with a new procedure for deice and it was as stated in this video - first sign of ice select auto on and let the boots continuously run - seemed contrary to everything we were taught up until that point.
@@winstonchurchill3597 did u work/fly for Comair before this crash?
@@joeyragsdale1998 No - I flew for Midway Commuter, Air Wisconsin and Atlantic Coast Airlines - all taught not to inflate the boots too soon so as to avoid bridging the ice. After the Comair crash ACA changed their policy to at the first sign of icing continuously cycle the boots. Seemed contrary to my experience and past training, but as a professional pilot I adopted the new procedure.
To hear the captains words trembling in panic in those last second at 6:22, and then hearing the co pilot begin to say what sounds like "oh my (god)" right after. So sad.
Gotta say that last line shaved the calm demeanor right off my face. Glade the others did not see it coming like the pilot. Heart goes out to all of them but especially to that pilot.
Thank you "X" . Very well done sir.....in fact you put me right in the plane.
I had to go rewatch " Hooper kisses the pilots " ........flt 1080, to regain my composure.
"We're gonna fucking die!" is right up there with "Ma...I love you". No wonder the NTSB no longer releases the actual CVRs from crashes. Just horrible.
The Mexico City DC-10 CVR in 1979 was really bad too
Also "Pull up charlie pull up"
Althought haunting, I disagree w/ the NTSB's stance of not releasing CVR's.
Also "i don't wanna die" "PLEASE DONT KILL US PLEASE DONT KILL US" \\ ruclips.net/video/Q4z-xXKUdtE/видео.html
@@IAmNotARobotPinkySwear The transcripts are still available. There’s no information omitted. Just the sick “thrill” you want to hear the drama.
As an airline pilot, the audio of my death is the business of my family and whatever NTSB needs to figure out what happened. Not planning for that to be an issue, but I understand exactly why that audio isn’t released to the public.
I don’t want that shit all over RUclips. That’s my business. Not yours.
Aaaaaaah, those last words make me want to cry...I feel so terrible for those poor people and I know I would have reacted the same way!
I don't think I've heard anything as chilling as Capt. Carlsen's last words.
Same here
Theres a few famous last words from airline pilots. I remember one being "This is it baby!"
Have you seen the video where the co pilot is screaming inhumanly "Pull up! Pull up!"
Now that will haunt you.
1Peasant which one is it?
NB man I just got this haunting stuff out of my head lol, I guess I have to hear it
My grandparents were on this flight. Still so many years later this is heartbreaking to watch. It went so fast.
My condolences.
@@Eseseso494 thank you
Ive found this comment in another video regarding this flight.
Tony Maxim
8 meses atrás
I was a pilot for Comair 1989-1998. As a Brasilia Captain, I had flown with Ken Reese and Darinda many times. Ken and I hung out together socially a few times. He was a super guy, a dear friend. Darinda was a total sweetheart. I didn't know Dan well, but he was known to be a really nice guy. This is the first time I've heard this CVR, and it still makes me cry. The crew was NOT at fault for this accident. The cause was found to be tailplane icing, that is the horizontal stabilizer on the tail of the plane, which did not have deicing or anti-icing protection, had iced up. Because of this, the tailplane, which provides downward force to balance the upward lift of the wings, stalled, causing the aircraft to very suddenly pitch steeply into a nose dive. They were at too low an altitude to ever have a chance to recover. Many icing procedures were changed by the FAA and the airlines operating E-120's after that. I flew that plane for 8 years, and it was the squirreliest piece of crap I've ever flown!
And Embraer did recommended the procedure.
Another comment here following the above says that.
ruclips.net/video/3ubY768We88/видео.html
RatusNatus I'm not a pilot but I've spoken to a few people who did fly the Brasilia. None of them particularly liked it. I flew on one once and all I could think about was that they guys that flew it didn't like it.
Thx for providing additional input and clarification. I've noticed in many of these videos the FAA and NTSB are quick to blame most of these crashes on pilot error, just like their corporate masters want them to, I'm sure. This provides an extra layer of sadness knowing there was nothing the pilots could do to recover. Horribly tragic.
Great to watch your videos, I was so surprised at just how fast this plane came down, the pilot had no chance, I'm glad things have moved on regarding the de-icing of the wings..So sad that no one made it out.
The plane stalled at 4,000 feet, which was insufficient for the plane to recover. If the pilots had about 7,000-8000 feet then the plane would've recovered
A Frustrated Gamer..You’re right there thankfully.
Those last words were genuinely disturbing. I think I'll watch this video with the sound off next time. Holy shit.
Yes! I binged the whole channel a few days ago and have been looking forward to the next one. Thanks for your hard work with these videos!
This one is uniquely haunting. I feel like for most black box recordings, the pilots are still in a kind of mental fix the problem mode and almost don’t even verbally acknowledge their impending doom. But clearly, and perhaps because of the suddenness of the loss of control made him realize very quickly it was over and there was nothing to save. And clearly, he wasn’t ready. Not that anyone is but some really, really aren’t ready to go. Horrific. Will try not to think about while trying to sleep. Live life, y’all! Live it.
Those last words has got me shook.
Great job! Thanks for the upload and keep making the best reenactments!
I've watched every video since about a year ago, eagerly awaiting each new release. Keep up the work man, it's really great.
I love this channel, hope you get to 100k soon!
Very sad. This happened near my home airport. Detroit metro. Sad last words. The realization of that moment has to be tragic. Nice video.
Wow hearing the pilots voice right before the crash gave me some serious shivers. How terrified they all must have been 😢
I lived near the crash site and visited it after they opened the road back up to traffic. What amazed me was how compact the crash site was. It truly went nose first vertical into the ground. Very somber experience.
Watched lots of these videos but hearing that man say we’re going to effen die is so sad and eerie to hear RIP pilot !
Wow that was the first time I have experienced the final words being said like that on one of your videos and it was truly disturbing. I have watched plenty of completely fatal crashes on your channel but this one has me the most terrified. Those last words is what I’m sure is said before every crash on this channel but hearing them aloud really drives home that this is real people in these situations.
I don't know what it is with recreations like this that interest me so greatly.
These videos are awesome. I couldn’t imagine being in these guys shoes:( keep up the good work:) i love them!
Been looking forward to this video since it's probably the last I'll watch before my holiday (going on the 12th). Another great job X Pilot and congratulations on 75k! I'm delighted to be two of those subscribers (I subbed on my alt)!
tsei
Yes, I wouldn't watch any more until you get back from your trip.
Human nature to be made uneasy after seeing these.
I probably won't bear that in mind until I'm actually on the plane; planes are safer now anyway since a lot of these happen before the 21st century.
@@effybin True but it's hard not to be nervous after seeing them. I'm not one normally scared of flying, but I shit myself when I had to fly 2 days after seeing the one on Germanwings 9525.
It didn't matter that I knew that scenario couldn't happen post-9/11, just couldn't help but think of all the possible things that could go wrong. Like watershed44 said--its human nature.
I'm usually scared of flying but maybe these might do the opposite; they might help me think they won't happen since X Pilot usually takes the last 2-3 minutes of the video to explain how they resolved the issue from happening, or links to the flights that had the same issue and was fixed after those.
@@effybin yet crashes still occur all over the world, even Boeing's new models
I looked up the report because the RUclips videos don't show why it was rolling to the left. The ice messed with the engines. It says the right engine was accelerating faster than the left, which made it want to roll to the left, then the autopilot quit and they tried to recover and ended up rolling to the right, then back to the left even more and couldn't recover from the roll. Maybe they were trying to bring the nose down to gain some speed to get control but they kept banking to the left and didn't have enough time to recover. If they could have throttled back the right engine, or throttled up the left one before they went into the dive, they could have recovered.
Your use of black box audio is why you’re my favorite channel
The radio recording of the last words. Wow.
I used to fly on EM 120s quite a bit when my job entailed traveling in the Midwest, Ohio, Indiana, Wisconsin. It was a nice plane to ride in , especially if you sat on the port side that had just single seats, there were 2 on the starboard side. A very quiet prop plane.
Wow, I was also working under the impression that myth was real, thankfully the aircraft I fly has a different deicing system meaning this isn't I vulnerability I have.
This does however mean I will be reviewing our de icing systems right away.
Thanks a bunch.
Excellent as always
Wow, hearing those last words is heartbreaking 😞 RIP everyone
I've never heard this audio before and I thought I've heard them all, truly chilling to say the least.
Why don't you always overlay ATC and cockpit audio? It's much more interesting that way.
@@XPilotYT how do you find ATC & cockpit recordings? I love watching these videos, especially laying in bed as there is no noise & subtitles but it's just so sad when they end badly. I sometimes find myself not going to sleep until there is a good ending! Great job though!
X Pilot
Do you have any idea who released the audio of the pilots last words?
Seems inappropriate of them to do so, it really hurts the families of the deceased to be exposed to this. I understand that once it is made public you can and did use it which is fine.
@@watershed44 I'm pretty sure the family of the loved ones who died in this disaster aren't on RUclips watching videos of plane crashes.
Niko
You don't know if a relative might see this. In any case it wasn't necessary to include that clip to get the story across.
@@watershed44 I understand your viewpoint. I just feel that by people watching a reactment of such a terrible disaster, they should be aware of the true horror and sadness of the situation. If I died in that plane, to me it would be better that people felt a real sense of the tragedy and sadness that they were watching, rather than simply viewing it and flicking past it onto the next video without it touching their hearts.
Cheers on the 75k subs, here's to 100k!
This so chilling!
How often do pilots have to go through some type of update training?
Great video and effort
X pilot are you ever gonna do the Tenerife disaster? Also congrats on 75k let's hit 100k by the end of the year!
I lost a college friend on that flight. I can't imagine the fear going through her mind on those last few seconds...
I hate flying
Do Heavys and Supers have de-icing Boots too, or do they use some other system?
My wife was a flight attendant that had quit 3 weeks prior to this. She flew this route regularly
I remember working and hearing about this on the radio.Comair was using to prop planes at the time Brazilian and Saab if I remember correctly and just started using small jets. She flew this route couple times a week. We were so young back then no kids. I remember just driving to Columbus Oh from Cincinnati just to pick her up so she didn’t have to layover and ride jump seat home the next day
I’m so sad for the crew they had to be cool my wife liked all of them
I think it would be awesome if you recreated the doomed flight of Alaska Airlines 1866, going into Juneau, Alaska.
Sum video young blood, been here for a while and I wanted to say that you are a smashing youtuber
SUM?
Was that english?
Always wondered what does P3D Stand for and how do u make thess animations?
Wow, the graphics are much better in this one. What did you change? (I am into flight sims too)
Will you make a Video About the recent plane crash in Indonesia?
I always enjoy aviation, always in my youth I love being a pilot, the truth is that today I am aware of the enormous responsibility that also falls to one, I am aware that it is also difficult that these moments are in power do nothing, my condolences to the victims and the family members, it's so painful to hear those last words
Nice job. Looks like you'll have another video on the way too with the latest Indonesian Boeing crash.
I read the comments before hand thinking I was prepared for the audio. Geeze my heart sank, wish I could un hear that :(
Great example of being in trouble but not knowing, to suddenly being in trouble and knowing, to then having just enough time to know how much trouble you're in and dreading it. Heartbreaking
We flew to Detroit all the time back in the '90s; we were a 5 man quality section of an automotive foundry with
customers in Sterling Heights, Detroit, Romulus and Livonia.
Every man in that office, including me...had flown on N265CA.
Several of us still have the old boarding pass punch card tickets that were issued by our travel agency,
with the plane's number on them.
Not mentioned here, but I have it on good authority that one of the engines on this plane had just been
replaced a few flight hours before this tragedy.
Hi I’m not a pilot so please excuse the stupid question. What doe they mean when they say they have “information hotel” for example? I know hotel for H but I mean is it ATIS information they mean and is the letter relating to how recent that information bulletin is? Hope I make sense... sorry and thank you in advance. 🙂
@Xpilot is it possible for you do video of emery flight 17. In air crash investigation. the episode is called Nuts and Bolts
those were sad words before the impact. cannot imagine the terror they went thru.
I've watched several videos like this one and read many stories of how planes crash due to icing either on approach, or icing while still on the ground before takeoff. Ice adds weight, and more importantly destroys the wings aerodynamics and lift rendering the plane uncontrollable. Most all constraints on de-icing are due to cost-saving measures.
U are the best X Pilot!
Could you make a playlist with audio from the pilots ? Those are my favorite
There's already one on RUclips, search for CVR Recordings
Your favorite??? When you might be a psychopath...
They say ice bridging doesn’t exist anymore.
I’ve seen it.
Pop the boots.. and watch all of that ice go from translucent to white with none breaking off.
Waiting a bit always gives a cleaner break... and doing it at temps higher than -10C is better still.
The key is to keep the speed up and keep your configuration until you can shed it. Get a vector if it doesn’t work for spacing.
Almost always about speed and/or pitch.
Wow, this was really sad.
Wow, I work at DTW. Never heard of this before.
Would be nice if you could do videos of the Trident Crash at Heathrow and again, the 707 Whisky Echo, BOAC at Heathrow
Those last words were chilling...
Can you please recreate US-Bangla Flight 211 which crashed in Kathmandu?
If you're a pilot, you're always taking a risk to a degree of an accident, but the terror coming from the Capt before they crash is chilling to listen to. If you're not afraid to fly by being a pilot, I would think you'd have a measure of control to keep the fear in check if you're about to crash, even knowing you're going to lose your life. I've watched alot of different commercial airliner accidents here, a few other pilots became terrorized before they crashed and were killed, but some other pilots were able to keep it together and stay cool right up until the end. Nobody deserves to face death in this fashion, and felt bad for that Capt of this flight.
where did you found the Blackbox recording?
They usually release a transcript and sometimes (if you're lucky) they put out the last minute or two of recordings. Here's a full recording of the last 50 seconds of this flight
ruclips.net/video/3ubY768We88/видео.html
Chilling.
How would you know when the ice was 1/2" thick?
Is it possible to do the David Coulthard crash in 2000
X Pilot are ya gonna do China Airlines Flight 611 soon?
Luckily at 2:02, when instructed to reduce speed to 190 kts, they are already at 0. It seems so many commercial pilots are airplane 'drivers'; at the first sign, push that nose over and get some airspeed! Chilling final words as they were able to see the ground at a bad attitude and no time..
This flight crashed in my hometown. I didn't see it, because it was snowing so hard, but I heard it hit! I thought it was major car accident on Interstate 23 near Dundee, Mi... On my way home from work, I saw all the cop cars and ambulances responding, and I put 2 and 2 together. 😢 I have friends who worked the crash site. So tragic. 😢
Can you do the concord?
I've seen all your videos in a binge watch, except for the 9/11 flights, which I can't bring myself to view. maybe I'll get drunk and watch them.
Out of the CVR I have heard. This one is the one that sticks with me.
Try western airlines 2605
@@zacharymillercubing I find it more powerful when they know for a fact there about to die and say it in realization.
Both Comair 3272 and especially PSA 182 match that.
Western Air 2605. Its not pretty, but it's just them not knowing whether to shit or go blind in terror not know there fate.
Honestly, as much as these CVR are chilling. Nothing matches watching the Christchurch Massacre livestream. Ugh.
I shouldn’t be watching your videos since Im taking a flight in a couple of days, now Im scared 😭😭😭
Kinda funny at the end of your videos there is kinda like a eulogy for the plane involved.
Which year the aircraft?
can you do tam 402?
You've stepped up your game X Pilot. Superb graphics. Great, tragic video.
Can someone here explain the meaning of "broadcasting information hotel" is? As in, "The ATIS, which is currently broadcasting information hotel, informs the pilots..."
Information Hotel changed from Information Gulf. The next revision will be called Information India telling pilots there has been a change of content.
@scott gorham Are you a complete fool, or do you just act like one in youtube comments?
the only comfort they had was that they died quickly..the time it took to turn that plane into scrap metal was 1/10th of a second...thats why I don,t fly...all it takes is one persons mistake, and it,s good night irene..
And so many are from a mechanic forgetting to put in a screw, or remove a piece of plastic. I flew a lot in my time in the service, but later I turned into a white knuckle flyer.
All of us die of something. There are only two possibilities: sudden or slow. Sudden is easier on the people going; slow can be easier on the people left behind - they can make arrangements and say good bye.
thebes1 On commercial flights pilot error. Not nuts and bolts.
General aviation pilot error, most commonly IIFR.
That was worse than ANY horror movie I've EVER seen...."We're gonna fucking die!"
RIP to ALL involved in this one....😇
Chilling last words
The fear in his voice I heard made me 😥😢😥😥😥😥😢😢😢😢😢
RIP
I Live in Monroe and my dad was telling me something about this briefly.
“We’re gonna fucking die” that hit me
I caught the last Northwest flight out of Cincinnati that day, due to weather delays. This would have been the only other options. Family members were calling to see if I was on this flight.
Wait so how did activating the deicer late cause the wings to violently rotate?
Yes I'm puzzled too about that. Any commercial pilots want to chime in and explain what happened with that?
The ice that had accumulated on the wings caused the plane to lose lift. The activation of the deicer simply came too late to mitigate the ice that was present on the wings.
Letz Rock
Yet from the way the information was communicated it sounds like right after they activated the boots the plane suddenly lost control? Wonder if the large pieces of ice breaking off damaged something? Here's something interesting about the theory of "ice bridging" www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2013/february/pilot/ice-bridging
Wow, I see. I never thought ice would cause such a problem like that.
maybe, the de-icing system was using just one propeller as its energy source (can happen if one valve is inactive)... in normal operation the rotating motion would not be near critical, however, due to a proportionally smaller tale, at low speeds these kinds of planes do tend to become horizontally unstable.