that one of the best compliments one can make; hating the character but loving the actor performing the hate-abilty to perfection. I had that same with Imelda Staunton as Dolores Umbridge in Harry Potter
During a 12 hour flight I managed to watch this movie 3 times. Best long flight of my life...sleep, eat, laugh, rinse repeat...I caught something hilarious each time I hadn't noticed the previous times.
When I first watched this movie and saw the scene where Michael Palin's character was announced to be assassinated, my heart dropped. I was screaming "NO" repeatedly like a lunatic at the screen (I was alone). His character hasn't even done anything, and yet I was worried for him. Even when he's revealed to be a cowardice radical sociopath, I'm still incredibly fond of him. I guess that's just what happens when you're Michael Palin.
His character in real life had done plenty wrong, not as perverted as Beria but he ordered the death of many, He wasn’t Assassinated just demoted after trying to vote out Khrushchev.
Those who have yet to see this film may find what I'm about to say hyperbolic. Simon Russell Beale's performance as Beria is one of the best performances I've seen in quite some time. I'd urge you to watch the movie regardless of my claim. It's as funny as you'd expect from Armando Iannucci, performed beautifully as you'd expect from a cast of stone cold legends and, most impressively I think, you can feel the slow pitch drop weight of Stalin's regime in every frame.
I second this. His performance blew my mind even while watching the movie. I am serious: It is haunting in a way because since I've seen this movie for the first time yesterday, his performance and his moments suddenly pop up in my brain and I don't know why.
A Russian accent would have ruined the movie. No doubts about it. It simply doesn't make sense. If you take the movie The Interview (2014), where an English speaking entertainer/journalist interviews a character like Kim Jong Un then of course it makes sense that Kim would have a sort of accent while speaking English to an English audience. But if you watch a movie where everyone is supposed to talk to each other in their native tongue it makes no sense to give them a sort of Russian accent because there is no language barrier. It completely destroys the immersion for me. So I am very glad they decided against it!
The question about Trump implies that no other leaders between Stalin's time and Trump's time are worthy of satire. Nope, just several decades of perfectly reasonable world leaders who never did anything wrong.
And BTW, comedians are constantly making fun of Trump RIGHT NOW. So you have to be a total dumbass to suggest that "in about 50 years time" we could start doing something that EVERYONE is already doing.
I don’t support trump or believe in his policies but you can’t even compare Stalin to Trump, Trump is not a monster who would kill millions, I’m not saying he’s a good person but I mean you can’t compare them
I think it’s mostly just that he wanted to pick an example from our time, rather than implying that there are NO other examples of leaders in history that you can do it with. My personal wish example would be a movie about the relationship between Regan and Gorbachev.
It also implies that a murderous dictatorship that killed millions is comparable to President Trump's battle against the same insidious forces of communism . These people are utterly utterly bizarre , can't see what's in front of their own noses.
This and "Weekend at Bernie's" are looking more and more like the current flying circus in the swamp. I do like the way they deflected, If Python had been more topical it would be dated and there never would have been the Knight who say NI!
I think the no-accent thing worked because everybody did it. If it had been all Russian and Georgian accents except for one guy who talked like Matthew McConaughey, it would've been ridiculous.
The interviewer (Stefan Pape) is a complete 100% moron to compare Stalin (who had killed 60+ million people, a lot for simply having a different opinion or a family member did) to Trump. He makes us Brits look stupid and our education system inept for not teaching the guy basic history. Or he does know the history which is far worse!
I think the film makers got the right balance here - this is a dark comedy that does not make light of the millions of deaths under Stalin’s regime . However, it is hard to imagine any comedy being made about Hitler and Mao, also responsible for millions of deaths and other dictators like Idi Amin of Uganda, who was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands, as was shown in the film The Last King of Scotland, a very serious film indeed as of course it should. The same applies to Pol Pot of Cambodia, whose atrocities were shown in the outstanding film by David Putnam, The Killing Fields. But the death of Stalin did manage to be comic and not be in bad taste or at least not in too bad taste. The film was, after all, about the power struggle that followed Stalin’s death and not about Stalin himself or what he did that resulted in so many lives lost. Understandably, however, the film was not shown in Russia itself. i Ball, about the power struggle that followed Stalin’s death and was not about Stalin himself or what he did that resulted in so many lives lost.
Trying to compare Trump to Stalin is a bit of a stretch. Entertainers love to prosletyze woke dogma until they are censored by woke dogma. Listen to Steven Fry and Steve Coogan complaining about political correctness, two of the wokest entertainers around. Like thieves complaining about crime.
Not really a bit of a stretch though, is it. I mean the lies, the corruption, the disinformation campaign the slavish obedience of his followers...I mean, one is just a cheap ass version of the other really. You tell people to go and listen to Fry and Coogan complaining about the 'woke' crowd and then say it its like thieves complaining about crime. That's weird, because I have listened to them and I have literally no idea WTF you are talking about. I suspect that you don't either as, if you did have a point, you would have made it instead of going down the usual right-wing road of creating straw men to attack because you can't attack anything they actually said. They weren't complaining about 'political correctness', they were complaining about 'political correctness gone mad', which is an entirely different thing but which the right wingers have managed to conflate, over the years, into the same thing. Which is interesting as even the term 'political correctness' is a term invented by the right to describe the notion of treating people with dignity and respect. You know, because 'treating people with dignity and respect' is difficult to attack for people who like to look in the mirror on a Sunday morning and pretend they're decent. Much like the term 'woke' really, but better. I mean, people going around attacking people for not being asleep...what kind of total fucking moron does that? You would have to be some kind of lying, corrupt, misinformed sycophant to swallow that one...🤣🤣🤣
Pretty ridiculous for the interviewer to talk about Trump in the same context as Stalin & Co . Guess that's pretty standard in the UK and probably compulsory if seeking BBC employment Just remember the Guardian never had a ill word for Stalin in his whole life
As a Brit, I can tell you that this moron of an interviewer does NOT represent the Brit's I know personally and he's a complete moron for comparing Trump (who I'm not a fan of) to Stalin who had 60+ million people killed (and a significant amount of those for simply having a different opinion or somebody in their family did). It was a disgusting comparison to make or even imply that Trump is causing even close to the same amount of damage.
Thank god they didn't do "Russian" accents. That's always a bad director's choice. They always sound like crap and people who speak Russian are rolling their eyes.
Agreed! The interviewer (Stefan Pape) is a complete 100% moron to compare Stalin (who had murdered 60+ million people, and a lot of those for simply having a different opinion or a family member did) to Trump.
The interviewer (Stefan Pape) is a complete 100% moron to compare Stalin (who had killed 60+ million people, a lot for simply having a different opinion or a family member did) to Trump.
The film got a great cast of actors portraying the probable political farce and maneuvering following Stalin's death. Beriya's spiteful and calculating behaviour though is brilliant!🤣
I actually think Mr. Ianucci should do a film about Hitler's cabinet. I was laughing out loud reading how belligerently inept was Joachim von Ribbentrop on Wikipedia. Conversely, Reichsfuhrer Himmler was much more competent, to the detriment of Europe's Jews. I think that contrast could make for compelling cinema.
I'm all in favour of conservation, as long as the regulation is not too excessive; a cursory glance of the Wikipedia articles on brown bears and grizzly bears indicates that they both have a conservation status of 'Least Concern' and are not endangered. Please be more specific regarding your 'devastating' for wildlife pronouncement, I'd like to consider it; how is the alternative to lead pellets less devastating, and to what extent is it less devastating? If low income families can't afford to feed children they shouldn't be having those children. If you take away moral hazard ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_hazard ) you encourage people to behave in an irresponsible manner, in this case having children that they can't afford to feed. North Korea is on the verge of developing a hydrogen bomb and missiles to deploy it. Taking out North Korea before they have that capability is probably the one strategically justifiable US conflict of recent decades. The current European immigrant crisis was caused by the strategically dumb invasions of Iraq and Libya. Warmonger Hillary would have gone into Syria and unnecessarily escalated tensions with Russia by now, just so that her Saudi paymasters could build the oil pipeline that they want to run through that territory. It was a lucky break that that venal career politician didn't enter the white house. If people are not in favour of Trump how did he beat Hillary? The people are not against Trump, the left wing establishment media and their corporate owners are against Trump because he deprived them of the globalist establishment candidate that they wanted. How is he silencing scientists on climate change, please give an example. Anthropomorphic climate change is happening, but not to anything like the exaggerated extent being portrayed in legacy media. Market forces, not socialist edicts, will and are tackling the problem of climate change. Please don't rely on CNN, MSNBC, BBC, Vox and Buzzfeed for your sources. As for good luck, as flawed in some respects as Trump is, we certainly dodged the bullet when the coronation of Madame President failed to materialise.
There certainly are too many people in the world, who are putting a great strain on the planet's ecosystem, though I would propose cuts in the welfare state to prevent profligate individuals having children that they can't afford to look after, along with other economic and political incentives in order to reduce population totals; rather than the cull that you propose. When you start your cull what metric do you propose to use to decide which individuals to target first? Are you going to choose people at random, or make selections based on specific characteristics exhibited by those individuals?
No Michael it wasn't a matter of " ...the summary executions...AND ALL THAT....", it was, the ALL that! Say, that the film dealt with in commedic terms the Third Reich ( and ALL that) would there been as much mirth? Why IS it that Stalin and then the other butchers in the USSR get to be made fun of, whilst, at the same time the number of civilians MURDERED under the same regime; 20-25 MILLION can be, as it were summarily, made redundant? Why is, THAT? So, cool and evocative, so louch, and hip, and infra dig to consider the TWO million starved in two years in the Ukraine (1935-1937, See Red Famine :Stalin's War on Ukraine by Anne Applebaum ) as they sit fat and insouciant . I saw the film, and yes it was trying to be something comical ; the "shots" of people being shot, and led away to their deaths, but only the lightest touch, referring to the gulags. Ahhh, the film that tries to say nothing by saying everything doesn't matter, anymore. Because it is. I dry retched once, because the farce epitomised the indifference to the fact. What next....Nanking the Musical/ Ain't life cheap......
You actually can't read about the last few days of the third Reich and not find it a dark comedy in a certain sense. You're telling me that General Weilding reporting to the furherbunker to be shot is not a tragi comedic episode. Or that Nazi leaders in Pomerania banning citizens from fleeing under penalty of death before themselves running away leaving regions with no leadership would be out of place in a cartoon. Comedy can be used to make a point about the ridiculousness of human ideologies and human experience on one hand, without undermining it. If you like your comedy to be of a different taste, that's fine but not all comedy makes light of an event.
It is possible if we live in a democracy....I think it would be funny especially after the last election. Primaries and all...but it would not be as graphic or dark I think. I mean this was Stalin...not exactly the same = comparison.
Most definitely! I would love to see a candid-camera style Obama rant where he drops F-bombs left right and centre. No human could withstand all that stress and scrutiny. Same with Hilary. And they both made terrible decisions among the good ones, so there'd be a lot of material.
The dude playing beria really killed it..hated the character..love the actor
He's one of the finest actors that the UK has ever produced.
Wasnt he brilliant as Beriya!
that one of the best compliments one can make; hating the character but loving the actor performing the hate-abilty to perfection.
I had that same with Imelda Staunton as Dolores Umbridge in Harry Potter
Not unlike Sir Henry Simmerson in Sharpe
Simon Russell Beale is phenomenal in this. Just little touches like his burst of rage that he can't get the drawers unlocked quickly enough. Scary.
"Grab the papers or I'll cut your eyes out! Grab them!!!!"
@@jakerivas754 Sssleminov
the final scene where he's screaming and pleading for his life feels frighteningly real
@@christhomas9221
Yeah the system has metastasised beyond the evil of any individual person.
During a 12 hour flight I managed to watch this movie 3 times. Best long flight of my life...sleep, eat, laugh, rinse repeat...I caught something hilarious each time I hadn't noticed the previous times.
Michael Palin is the Python the years have been kindest to. He looks quite healthy.
I thought Eric Idle, Terry Gilliam and John Cleese were doing fine. It's Terry Jones who's been suffering lately.
eric idle* terry jones*
arne anka Thank you, how the heck did that past by me.
Well he was the best looking to begin with.
It's because he was a lumberjack that he's O. K. That and the buttered scones and regular bowel motions.
When I first watched this movie and saw the scene where
Michael Palin's character was announced to be assassinated, my heart dropped. I was screaming "NO" repeatedly like a lunatic at the screen (I was alone). His character hasn't even done anything, and yet I was worried for him. Even when he's revealed to be a cowardice radical sociopath, I'm still incredibly fond of him. I guess that's just what happens when you're Michael Palin.
His character in real life had done plenty wrong, not as perverted as Beria but he ordered the death of many, He wasn’t Assassinated just demoted after trying to vote out Khrushchev.
I watched this movie last night, what an amazing film. 5 stars from me.
good film but a little too lighthearted for a movie about a man more evil and sadistic than Hitler.
COLIN HILL SWIMS absolutely
Only have I realized now that Simon Russell Beale played Napoleon Bonaparte in Blackadder: Back and Forth.
That's how I knew him.
Thank you!!
The ones I didn't recognize from other stuff I've seen in Doctor Who.
Simon Russell was outstanding in the death of Stalin.
They both did a fantastic Molotov and Beria.
Those who have yet to see this film may find what I'm about to say hyperbolic. Simon Russell Beale's performance as Beria is one of the best performances I've seen in quite some time. I'd urge you to watch the movie regardless of my claim. It's as funny as you'd expect from Armando Iannucci, performed beautifully as you'd expect from a cast of stone cold legends and, most impressively I think, you can feel the slow pitch drop weight of Stalin's regime in every frame.
I second this. His performance blew my mind even while watching the movie. I am serious: It is haunting in a way because since I've seen this movie for the first time yesterday, his performance and his moments suddenly pop up in my brain and I don't know why.
Michael Palin saying he hasn't been in a movie that is both dark and funny. He was in Brazil one of the darkest comedies ever.
well he is the youngest one lol
Actors plug their latest movie with whatever shit they can think of. It's not supposed to be taken literally.
A Russian accent would have ruined the movie. No doubts about it. It simply doesn't make sense. If you take the movie The Interview (2014), where an English speaking entertainer/journalist interviews a character like Kim Jong Un then of course it makes sense that Kim would have a sort of accent while speaking English to an English audience. But if you watch a movie where everyone is supposed to talk to each other in their native tongue it makes no sense to give them a sort of Russian accent because there is no language barrier. It completely destroys the immersion for me. So I am very glad they decided against it!
EXACTLY! I hate when American films force that accent garbage. Most people suck at accents.
Simon Russell Beale absolutely stole this film.
Jason Isaacs, anyone?
The question about Trump implies that no other leaders between Stalin's time and Trump's time are worthy of satire. Nope, just several decades of perfectly reasonable world leaders who never did anything wrong.
And BTW, comedians are constantly making fun of Trump RIGHT NOW. So you have to be a total dumbass to suggest that "in about 50 years time" we could start doing something that EVERYONE is already doing.
I don’t support trump or believe in his policies but you can’t even compare Stalin to Trump, Trump is not a monster who would kill millions, I’m not saying he’s a good person but I mean you can’t compare them
I think it’s mostly just that he wanted to pick an example from our time, rather than implying that there are NO other examples of leaders in history that you can do it with. My personal wish example would be a movie about the relationship between Regan and Gorbachev.
It also implies that a murderous dictatorship that killed millions is comparable to President Trump's battle against the same insidious forces of communism . These people are utterly utterly bizarre , can't see what's in front of their own noses.
@@icemaglite Well, they ARE from Hollywood. And anyway, Palin and Beale gently turned the question aside, so I only blame the interviewer
I've been in love with Simon Russell Beale since persuasion which i've watched 200 times
Michael palin was so great in movie. Molotov's terrified loyalty made for really good comedy.
Omg SRB reads The Romanov's audiobook! I am so thrilled to see him kill it in this!
I watched the film for the first time last night and it's brilliant, Michael Palin is superb in it
kris wilkinson Simon Russell Beale was even better but all and all outstanding performances by the entire cast.
What a movie, what great actors. Beria is mindblowing.
@@vidarkristiansen8989 You have put it very nicely.
Brilliant !!! The movie, the plot, the scenario. Genius and unique actors !!! In times full of crups ...
Palin was underutilized in that movie.
Watched the movie 4 times. It's so fucking good.
Anyone that dislikes the film will find their name on a list.
Comparing Donald Trump to Stalin is beyond ignorant. It is insane.
This and "Weekend at Bernie's" are looking more and more like the current flying circus in the swamp.
I do like the way they deflected, If Python had been more topical it would be dated and there never would have been the Knight who say NI!
and Hunter would fit right in.
They’re as brainwashed as the Soviets.
@@Ron-d2sShut up! Lo! Trump is Assolini.
Amazing film! It is very timely and reminds us what happens when a few become too powerful.
it also reminds us of what happens when the Marxist political left takes over
I think the no-accent thing worked because everybody did it. If it had been all Russian and Georgian accents except for one guy who talked like Matthew McConaughey, it would've been ridiculous.
at 3:55
Soy Boy wants to equate President Trump with Stalin ???? What the fek ??
The interviewer (Stefan Pape) is a complete 100% moron to compare Stalin (who had killed 60+ million people, a lot for simply having a different opinion or a family member did) to Trump. He makes us Brits look stupid and our education system inept for not teaching the guy basic history. Or he does know the history which is far worse!
Lol. They turned that idiotic tacked-on last question right back at him
What was that about? Very annoying.
I think the film makers got the right balance here - this is a dark comedy that does not make light of the millions of deaths under Stalin’s regime . However, it is hard to imagine any comedy being made about Hitler and Mao, also responsible for millions of deaths and other dictators like Idi Amin of Uganda, who was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands, as was shown in the film The Last King of Scotland, a very serious film indeed as of course it should. The same applies to Pol Pot of Cambodia, whose atrocities were shown in the outstanding film by David Putnam, The Killing Fields.
But the death of Stalin did manage to be comic and not be in bad taste or at least not in too bad taste. The film was, after all, about the power struggle that followed Stalin’s death and not about Stalin himself or what he did that resulted in so many lives lost.
Understandably, however, the film was not shown in Russia itself.
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Ball, about the power struggle that followed Stalin’s death and was not about Stalin himself or what he did that resulted in so many lives lost.
It’s the theme of “the producers”
Trying to compare Trump to Stalin is a bit of a stretch. Entertainers love to prosletyze woke dogma until they are censored by woke dogma. Listen to Steven Fry and Steve Coogan complaining about political correctness, two of the wokest entertainers around. Like thieves complaining about crime.
More than a BIT of a stretch. lol
Not really a bit of a stretch though, is it. I mean the lies, the corruption, the disinformation campaign the slavish obedience of his followers...I mean, one is just a cheap ass version of the other really.
You tell people to go and listen to Fry and Coogan complaining about the 'woke' crowd and then say it its like thieves complaining about crime. That's weird, because I have listened to them and I have literally no idea WTF you are talking about. I suspect that you don't either as, if you did have a point, you would have made it instead of going down the usual right-wing road of creating straw men to attack because you can't attack anything they actually said. They weren't complaining about 'political correctness', they were complaining about 'political correctness gone mad', which is an entirely different thing but which the right wingers have managed to conflate, over the years, into the same thing. Which is interesting as even the term 'political correctness' is a term invented by the right to describe the notion of treating people with dignity and respect. You know, because 'treating people with dignity and respect' is difficult to attack for people who like to look in the mirror on a Sunday morning and pretend they're decent.
Much like the term 'woke' really, but better. I mean, people going around attacking people for not being asleep...what kind of total fucking moron does that? You would have to be some kind of lying, corrupt, misinformed sycophant to swallow that one...🤣🤣🤣
Can they reprise these roles for the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis? Would be Fan-Damn-Tastic!
Now Sir Michael & Sir Simon : )
wow, you're right!
Can they do " the Death of Putin" ?
Pretty ridiculous for the interviewer to talk about Trump in the same context as Stalin & Co .
Guess that's pretty standard in the UK and probably compulsory if seeking BBC employment
Just remember the Guardian never had a ill word for Stalin in his whole life
As a Brit, I can tell you that this moron of an interviewer does NOT represent the Brit's I know personally and he's a complete moron for comparing Trump (who I'm not a fan of) to Stalin who had 60+ million people killed (and a significant amount of those for simply having a different opinion or somebody in their family did). It was a disgusting comparison to make or even imply that Trump is causing even close to the same amount of damage.
Enough with the Trump questions. Jesus fucking Christ.
That last question was so stupid.
S-Sliminov
Oh for goodness sake. What harm did Trump do compared to the warmonger presidents before and since?
Loved the film. But Marshall Zukhov (Jason Issacs) steals every scene!
Wonderful movie, fantastic actors! all of them
Thank god they didn't do "Russian" accents. That's always a bad director's choice. They always sound like crap and people who speak Russian are rolling their eyes.
Wish you would have compared Trump to Stalin sooner. That way I would have known right off the bat that you were not a voice worth listening to.
Yup.
The actors turned it right back on him too 😂
Agreed! The interviewer (Stefan Pape) is a complete 100% moron to compare Stalin (who had murdered 60+ million people, and a lot of those for simply having a different opinion or a family member did) to Trump.
amazing movie
Oh yeah, Trump really did run around having people executed and sent to gulags for no reason. What a stupid comparison.
The interviewer (Stefan Pape) is a complete 100% moron to compare Stalin (who had killed 60+ million people, a lot for simply having a different opinion or a family member did) to Trump.
Thumbs down for the ignorant comments about Trump
Guess who banned the movie
The film got a great cast of actors portraying the probable political farce and maneuvering following Stalin's death. Beriya's spiteful and calculating behaviour though is brilliant!🤣
I actually think Mr. Ianucci should do a film about Hitler's cabinet. I was laughing out loud reading how belligerently inept was Joachim von Ribbentrop on Wikipedia. Conversely, Reichsfuhrer Himmler was much more competent, to the detriment of Europe's Jews. I think that contrast could make for compelling cinema.
What damage has Trump caused?
I'm all in favour of conservation, as long as the regulation is not too excessive; a cursory glance of the Wikipedia articles on brown bears and grizzly bears indicates that they both have a conservation status of 'Least Concern' and are not endangered.
Please be more specific regarding your 'devastating' for wildlife pronouncement, I'd like to consider it; how is the alternative to lead pellets less devastating, and to what extent is it less devastating?
If low income families can't afford to feed children they shouldn't be having those children. If you take away moral hazard ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_hazard ) you encourage people to behave in an irresponsible manner, in this case having children that they can't afford to feed.
North Korea is on the verge of developing a hydrogen bomb and missiles to deploy it. Taking out North Korea before they have that capability is probably the one strategically justifiable US conflict of recent decades. The current European immigrant crisis was caused by the strategically dumb invasions of Iraq and Libya. Warmonger Hillary would have gone into Syria and unnecessarily escalated tensions with Russia by now, just so that her Saudi paymasters could build the oil pipeline that they want to run through that territory. It was a lucky break that that venal career politician didn't enter the white house.
If people are not in favour of Trump how did he beat Hillary? The people are not against Trump, the left wing establishment media and their corporate owners are against Trump because he deprived them of the globalist establishment candidate that they wanted.
How is he silencing scientists on climate change, please give an example. Anthropomorphic climate change is happening, but not to anything like the exaggerated extent being portrayed in legacy media. Market forces, not socialist edicts, will and are tackling the problem of climate change.
Please don't rely on CNN, MSNBC, BBC, Vox and Buzzfeed for your sources. As for good luck, as flawed in some respects as Trump is, we certainly dodged the bullet when the coronation of Madame President failed to materialise.
There certainly are too many people in the world, who are putting a great strain on the planet's ecosystem, though I would propose cuts in the welfare state to prevent profligate individuals having children that they can't afford to look after, along with other economic and political incentives in order to reduce population totals; rather than the cull that you propose. When you start your cull what metric do you propose to use to decide which individuals to target first? Are you going to choose people at random, or make selections based on specific characteristics exhibited by those individuals?
Well spoken Alexi. Trump most certainly isn't as bad as the media tries to tell you, and crooked hillary is most definitely worse
Agreed, and this interviewer with his rhetoric about the 'Trump regime' is just nauseating.
Until Trump is indicted.
high energy secret police chief!
About people hanging on to power by whatever means ..... (drump... hold my coke)
No Michael it wasn't a matter of " ...the summary executions...AND ALL THAT....", it was, the ALL that! Say, that the film dealt with in commedic terms the Third Reich ( and ALL that) would there been as much mirth? Why IS it that Stalin and then the other butchers in the USSR get to be made fun of, whilst, at the same time the number of civilians MURDERED under the same regime; 20-25 MILLION can be, as it were summarily, made redundant?
Why is, THAT?
So, cool and evocative, so louch, and hip, and infra dig to consider the TWO million starved in two years in the Ukraine (1935-1937, See Red Famine :Stalin's War on Ukraine by Anne Applebaum ) as they sit fat and insouciant . I saw the film, and yes it was trying to be something comical ; the "shots" of people being shot, and led away to their deaths, but only the lightest touch, referring to the gulags. Ahhh, the film that tries to say nothing by saying everything doesn't matter, anymore. Because it is.
I dry retched once, because the farce epitomised the indifference to the fact. What next....Nanking the Musical/
Ain't life cheap......
What you say is true, but you devalue it with the histrionic lie about retching.
Also, this is a blend of history's dark past and comedy, which they managed to pull off.
You actually can't read about the last few days of the third Reich and not find it a dark comedy in a certain sense. You're telling me that General Weilding reporting to the furherbunker to be shot is not a tragi comedic episode.
Or that Nazi leaders in Pomerania banning citizens from fleeing under penalty of death before themselves running away leaving regions with no leadership would be out of place in a cartoon.
Comedy can be used to make a point about the ridiculousness of human ideologies and human experience on one hand, without undermining it.
If you like your comedy to be of a different taste, that's fine but not all comedy makes light of an event.
Do you think the Clinton and Obama administrations could be subjected to a similar parody?
Oh, what am I saying. "Primary Colors." Of course.
It is possible if we live in a democracy....I think it would be funny especially after the last election. Primaries and all...but it would not be as graphic or dark I think. I mean this was Stalin...not exactly the same = comparison.
Not with the Hollywood Marxists who do everything possible to shield their heroes from scrutiny.
Most definitely! I would love to see a candid-camera style Obama rant where he drops F-bombs left right and centre. No human could withstand all that stress and scrutiny. Same with Hilary. And they both made terrible decisions among the good ones, so there'd be a lot of material.
Randomnessieness unrelated politics? Hey Einstein you do realize this conversation is about Clinton and Obama right?