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HO Scale Illinois Central train layout (includes DCC wiring)
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2017
- Here is a video of my brand new HO scale Illinois Central layout. This video includes an explanation of how I built the layout. This also includes the wiring. I explain how I power routed my frogs using Tortoise switch machines. I also briefly describe how I integrated JMRI into my new layout. Please let me know if you have any questions or would like further clarification on my techniques.
It's obvious you are a very talented individual. The workmanship you put into this small layout is very nice. (too bad you aren't my neighbor) boy could I use your expertise. Anyway great layout. I enjoyed the video.
@Joziah Benicio no, nobody gives a damn, you troll.
It’s a very nice track plan for a compact layout!
Nice layout. I like that voltage tool.
David Jones just beat me to it. The wiring looks very complicated but your neat wiring is amazing and consequently appears fairly straightforward. Well done.
Excellent video, I’m still learning about power options for DCC or DCC++EX, CVs… so much to learn but loving all of it. Thanks for explaining why and how you did your power and allowing me to increase my knowledge base. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽🙏🏽
i found your video engaging enough to watch it all the way through, Excellent work you did.
Thank you for the time you put into explaining everything. Son and I are starting a project and this is a huge help. PS my apologies if my wife contacts you! She doesn't understand the addiction!
I've just assembled a Mianne benchwork (modular), similarly shaped like yours - a dog bone. Each end is 4x4', with 3' for the long run. The total run from end to end is 16'. I hope to wire mine at least as good as your fine layout. It will also be DCC. Cheers, Bob
Detailed and comprehensive.
You are an overachiever, everything is neat and clean and very impressive.
Great example of an state of the art layout wiring, i have a small layout 4x6 runing on DC and you gave me some ideas. Congrats!
Thank you! I just published an entire “how-to” model railroad build series on my channel about a month ago. Search my videos and you can find it. Part II, III and possibly IV might give you better ideas. I learned a lot from the time this layout was built.
Very clean on wiring love it. I think that my friend is a trophy layout.
congratulations on developing a great layout and producing one of the few really useful videos on the net!
Simon Waite Thanks for the comments, Simon. I really tried hard to share what I have learned from this process! The result is a problem-free layout. I have not had on issue running trains and that makes it so much more enjoyable when you are not fighting issues!
Amazing! I love this layout. Trying to get ideas for a permanent layout and this is exactly what I’d want. Love how the center of your layout is narrower so you have better access to everything.👍🏻👍🏻
Adam Thanks, Adam. I appreciate your comments! I have had this layout for almost 4 years, it is very functional.
THANK YOU FOR VIDEO
WISH BEST LUCK ON PLAN ON LAYOUT
DID VERY WELL WITH BUILD AND WIRE AS GREART JOB
Looks great! You've completely out engineered me on this one! I can't wait to see trains running!
I\'m not sure but ,if anyone else is searching for ho train buildings try Corbandy HO Scale Crusher (just google it ) ? Ive heard some incredible things about it and my partner got excellent success with it
You say the wiring looks like spaghetti but compared to many layouts yours is very well done. Looks great!
Very nice job on the layout. Anyone can tell that you put a lot of thought into this layout. I like how much thought you put into the wiring and the track. I like that you made the mainline higher than the branch/ sidings. Your track plan is simple but so well thought out. This is outstanding
Outstanding! I have been thinking of getting into this hobby I have not had trains since I was 12 but now I’m sure after seeing this layout. I am so exited. Great job looks great please post progress vids when you can
gallor1able Thanks for the comments, search my channel, I just posted a layout update about two weeks ago (December 2019). I hope it continues to inspire.
Awesome well explained video just came across this i will be watching future ones keep up the great work
This video is fantastic 👍. I think I'll do the same thing for my first layout. Thank you.
WOW! Great job on the benchwork and track plan! Thanks for sharing
Looks good! I like that the center section is narrow. I can see myself sitting there and surrounded by trains.
Great video!
I saw your video a few months ago and was inspired to create one similar to the shape. It has turned out very well. You have a bit more switching then I do. I split mine in 2 also. Mine is 40" x 132" with the center inset also.Thanks for the idea. Very nice construction on yours.
Great video. Thank you for making it.
Great layout. i just want to say that my friend CRSR DASH840B did the math when it comes to grain elevators. He says that it takes 5-9 covered hoppers to fill one silo. If you going to run grain hoppers you going to need like 24-36 covered hoppers. In turn you going to need a bigger yard lol.
Excellent work, nice design.
Nice n clean Beautifully Done.
You should be happy with your wiring looks very good and very neat
nice layout! 🙂
Holy Crap BRO Nice Layout man!!!:) BRAVO
Great little film
Thanks for sharing with us all
A wannabe....
Very impressive work CK! I am in the wiring phase of my endeavors using PECO switch motors using LENZ DCC equipment. Man, I thought mine was fussy, but yours look even more so. It's amazing everything works flawlessly. You are a good electrician. Can wait to see your scenery work. Take care.
Nice job I like your ideas!.
Nice and clean!!!
Thank you!!!!
I like your layout.
Great bench work!
You did a top class layout in such a systematic manner where space matters. 9 feet in length is not bad at all because you still can enjoy your rolling stocks moving around but what I found more interesting is your inner branching out of the rail tracks.
Can you explain what kind of a layout may fit on your layout ? I mean give me some choice keys say Coalfield Mine, Village scene, etc.
But anyways I thank you for the lovely tutorial I have much to learn from you thats for sure. God bless your work and make some more videos.
Designed by yourself Nice the Power of designing yourself is Good as Using Computer to Design.
Very nice work
By the way, you mentioned you spray painted all your track which I found interesting because I saw no overspray on your cork or layout. Then you disclosed that you spray painted all of your track PRIOR to laying it. Interesting and working approach for sure. My only concern there would be rail joiners won't provide good if any electrical conducting between rails but if you drop a feeder for each piece of rail, that becomes a non issue unless a feeder goes bad and that's easy to fix. 99% of my rails have drop feeders. So much more fun to operate when you can put to bed all potential electrical issues during operation.
Jason Boche yes, I did take the track off the layout before I spray painted. To solve the problem of lack of electrical conductivity at the rail joiners I put painters tape over each rail at the ends (about 3/16" on each rail). I then installed the track and joiners and hand painted the rust color over the joiners to preserve the electrical current. Plus, I have feeders everywhere to ensure no issues. This was a very time consuming process but it was worth it, I haven't had any electrical issues.
nice plan might use that for my BN/CSXT/GWR layout
and i tried a simular track plan not to long ago with my BN SD40-2 and it works great
csx68 fs15 I have an Athearn SD40-2 that I had out today. It works on the outer mainline but will not work on the inner oval. Let me know if you have any questions, I am happy to help!
This is similar to my 6ft 6in by 2ft 6in N gauge layout. You can get an awful lot more into a N gauge layout of that size including full length passenger trains that don't chase their tails.
Nice combo Atlas/walthers switches perfectly Reallity Very sharp.
Very neatly done and well organized. Could you explain in more detail on how to wire the diesel tracks inside for power.
Thanks, Steve. Send me an email at ck7813 @ yahoo.com and I will give you an in-depth description of the wiring of the diesel house.
great channel.
This is, without question, a stunning piece of engineering. You should be very, very, very proud of yourself!!! Thank you so much for sharing this, and giving me all sorts of ideas for my upcoming layout in N-scale!!! I can even see a perfect place to squeeze in a reversing loop without it getting too crazy. I might even change the diesel house to a round house and wire it up in a similar fashion, though thankfully the Kato turn table automatically issolates the engine bays based on where the turntable is pointing!
I do so love the wiring job you did under the layout, that really is artwork and it makes my inner EEgeek so thrilled to see it so clear, orderly, and logical!!!
I have one question for you? I'm just getting back into the hobby after a 40 year absense. DCC was only just starting when I left the hobby decades ago so this part is all new to me. Can I build it all for DCC, but start with a single DC engine and then grow it later and convert thst first engine afterwards! My tentative plan is to start with a digitrax Zepher and run that one engine on DC for the first little while?
Thanks for the comments. To make a long story short, yes you can wire it for DCC but run it with a DC power pack. (I won't broach the topic of running DC locomotives with a DCC system - it is possible, but I don't feel comfortable doing it). With the layout as it is in the video, if you connect the two wires (Rail A and Rail B) to the two outputs on the DC power pack. I would not recommend connecting any other DCC devices until you full convert to DCC (e.g., the Tortoise switch machines, DS64s to control the Tortoises, etc.). The only issue with wiring for DCC and using DC equipment is that the entire layout will be powered and you will only be able to run one train at a time because you did not wire any DC blocks into your circuit.
Very tidy. I like it.
wow, I'm retired and just starting to renew my interest in model trains, it sure has changed since I was a boy, its looks VERY complicated now. I wouldn't even know where to start!!
harleyguyinmilw it is not as complicated as it looks! You can learn a lot watching RUclips. A great website to learn wiring is www.wiringfordcc.com. Get a good starter DCC system (e.g., Digitrax Zephyr) and a DCC locomotive and you will get your start!
Lots of stuff on RUclips. Keep looking. Shameless plug: I have some trains stuff on my channel.
FWIW for anyone that might care, my bus wires run together and have never had a problem. Have helped several people build large layouts done same way and not had issues. I've "Heard" people say running them together can result in some sort of interference but have never experienced it.
I never heard about keeping the buss wire separate for interference ? Infact everyone says to twist them together to keep from having signal loss. I have my by wire twisted together s well as the drops and have no signal drops what so ever from end to end of my layout.
I have heard both arguments and neither seem to make a difference....another DCC myth perhaps???
Looooove your layout 👍🛤️🚂
Awesome--!!!
Thanks, Cam!
Sweet!
hi can tell me the centre to centre measuremets off tracks on diesel house thanks grant
Thanks, Grant. Center-to-center is approximately 3 and 1/4 inches.
Amazing Layout I am curious to know is there a possibility you could send me the layout plan because I may want to do something like that for mine.
I have been looking for a while at my next layout and I really like this one. Would it be possible to get the actual dimensions of the support and track? I will probably extend the middle, but the 3' ends work! Thx
Jess Shirley please email me a detailed list of your questions to ck7813 @ yahoo.com
Hey buddy, are there any good books that you can recommend, that I can buy to teach me the wiring side of these model train layouts? Also are there good Mac compatible software for all this activity you are doing? Model trains have come a long way since 1976 when I used to have one. I want to introduce my son to them.
Thanks, Jay. If you go to Kalmbach Publishing, they have a great collection of books on basic layout design, wiring, scenery, etc. Most are around $20 each. A new edition of their wiring book came out recently so it is pretty current (no pun intended). Yes, JMRI is compatible with the Mac O/S. I personally haven’t tried it but I know you can download it from the JMRI site. My best advice is to do a lot of reading and make sure you are fully informed on what your needs are! Good luck!
@@ck7813 Thank you for your reply & wisdom. I’ll be sure to put it to good use!
Loved the color selection for your ties, question what source would you recommend before starting my first Dcc layout, with similar space restrictions, I've never wired any kind of layout but have no issue taking on this project now that I'm retired.
Hi Joe - I came up with layout on my own and I used photocopied pictures of track that I configured to the space I had. If you want to look at pre-designed layouts, Kalmbach Publishing has some books that are entitled something like "Layouts for small spaces." If your local hobby shop has a copy, you can at least look at it before purchasing. For wiring, I would recommend looking at: www.wiringfordcc.com/index.htm
It is an amazing website and will tell you everything you need to know about wiring for DCC. I have had really good luck with Digitrax but I think that each DCC system has advantages and disadvantages. I went with Digitrax because that is what is mostly used where I am from and I have a lot of local guys with experience who can help trouble shoot.
Fantastic layout! Fantastic and clean wiring! You've got a great model railroad started here. Nicely done. Can you send me a link on that grade crossing pro you mentioned? I also built the Walthers Prairie Coop several weeks ago using a few of the tips you provided in a previous video. It turned out great (I've published some videos of my in-progress layout - feel free to look). You made a comment about keeping separation of the track power wiring. Disclaimer: I am not an electrician. However, I had the same concerns and asked a Masters degree electrician about this very subject several weeks back. My question to him was more about isolating Digitrax DCC track power from DC and AC power for tortoise machines and accessory lighting respectively. He said there should be no worries bundling all of those cables together because they are such low frequency. Interference and "cross talk" tends to occur with higher frequencies (think audio/sound). That said, I've run into no issues on my current layout (yet) or my previous HO scale layout where I ran the same kind of wiring in close proximity. Anyway, you'll sleep better at night and your wiring is much cleaner than mine :)
Jason Boche I agree with your assessment of the current causing interference. While I agree it is low risk it was just easier to separate the wires since I was starting from scratch. I will be honest, my last layout didn't have the wires separate and I don't really notice any difference.
Jason Boche the only place I could find the grade crossing pro was directly from their website. I am going to start working on that shortly so videos will soon follow! www.logicrailtech.com/
i wish my layout like that
What is the radius of the inner curve at 0:44? Also, sorry if you mentioned this but, what type of turnouts did you use? Great layout, thanks
Thanks, Matt. The inner radius is right at 15 inches, it is a little tighter than that on the right side where the crossover is. I couldn't keep a consistent radius to account for the space needed for the turnouts. My turnouts are all Walthers turnouts, #5, DCC friendly. I would strongly recommend getting your turnouts as soon as possible (I am writing this comment in February 2020). In January (2020) Walthers released a new line of track/turnouts. They will sell out quickly. My brother was looking for turnouts for his layout in October 2019 and there were none available, anywhere. Even on eBay, there were not many for sale. Track is a really strange commodity, there is not an abundant supply so you need to buy it while you can.
@@ck7813 Thank you! I'm planning to do something like this in a 9x3 space I have. Very helpful
I will give this video a 10 out of 10 good work. keep up the awesome work ck7813****************!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Could you pass me the plans ... or what did you use? Thank you
Hi, Question for you, What is the reason for laying cork or foam under the tracks? Could you not just tack the track to the Board?
Nice job on the carpentry :)
Fruit Gums The cork serves a couple purposes. First, if you look at a prototype (real life) train track, you will notice that it is higher than the surrounding landscape for drainage and safety purposes. The presense of the cork on a model railroad is to give a prototypical appearance. Second, and probably a less important reason, is the cork does help with some sound deadening on the model railroad. The trucks on the locomotives and rolling stock create a bit of noise and the cork does deaden the sound. However, with modern sound locomotives, making model trains quiet isn’t as desirable as it was 20 years ago.
I need assistance from you about the wiring, the project I'm about to do is a U shape horseshoe shape I really want to know where to put the wires at and do the wired go straight to the DCC or something else? And do I need to drill holes through the plywood and the turnouts, do the come with wire decoders or do the all respond directly from the DCC operator? I'm stumped..
Hi, Xavier. Please email me a list of questions at ck7813 @ yahoo . com and I will get back to you. Also, it might not hurt to send me a rough sketch of your layout to help you better.
ck7813 do you also have a Facebook link too? I have a sketch set that I drew but need more ideas.
Amazing layout! How did you do the google maps view at the end?
Alex Quesen: I did all of the fabrication of the layout in my garage, I put the two halves together on the floor (no legs were installed) and got my ladder out and got about 10 ft above the layout. It is one picture using my iPhone!
@@ck7813 thanks for the quick response. I had thought to do something like that for our club layout and print a labeled map.
I am impressed with your track voltage
digital meter, did you buy it, if so from where, or did you make it? If you made it, is the wiring and parts list available so i can make one for my use. Thanks for your video's very impressive work!
No, I didn't make it. It is called an RRampMeter by DCC Specialties (www.dccspecialties.com). I don't think you can buy direct from their website but they list their dealers. I did check some are on eBay. I bought mine from an online train store that no longer exists.
NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO WIRING MY NEW GARDEN THIS CHRISTMAS.............................
Looks great, 18 inch radius is really sharp, are you running four axle locomotives? Can't wait to see it finished. Love how you have a clean wiring job.
upsd402 Yes, I am primarily running 4-axle diesels. I would love to have 22 degree radius or more but I simply didn't have the space. I have an Athearn SD70 6-axle that does work on the layout. It is tight and looks awkward going around the turns but it does work.
Do u know where I can find references for layout designs from the ww2 steam era?
Mr.M1Garand 25 my best advice is to go to the Kalmbach website and see what they have. You can also go to the Model Railroader magazine site. They have searchable track plans and a forum where you can post your question and get feedback.
@@ck7813 sweet thank u
Hey bro, i am from India and i want to know something about your tracks so please reply
You can reach me at ck7813 @ yahoo.com (no spaces).
the rails are a bit close to the sides
what size is this layout?
Why does it look like it hangs over one end?
Thanks, David. It looks like it hangs over the end because it actually was over the end. I attached another 1/4 piece of plywood to that end so if you watch my newer videos you will see the problem has been resolved. It was unfortunate, but to get all of the turnouts to fit, that small section of track was about 1/8” over the edge of the benchwork. Despite my best planning, I simply made a miscalculation.
here's a few tips for diy railroad layout construction
Find a proven set of plans online
Find a mate who wants to build one too so you have someone to encourage you
(I read these and why they work from Jareks Hobby Club site )
How big is your layout.
How many inches wide is table
at the widest, it is just a fraction over 36 inches. I am using 18" radius curves (18x2 = 36") It is just wide enough to account for the roadbed.
You Must Be Related To "Michelangelo" or "Leonardo da Vinci" ,,, What Great Craftsmanship,,, and As For The "Sistine Chapel" ,,, Bah Humbug,,, I'd Rather See Your Layout When Finished,,,
Great plan but u have so much room so why not go big
Richmond Railfan Because this was the size that I wanted.
By the way I’m 50 now
Can i have your layout
Noooooo layout for you. Unless you make a really nice offer. :)
put a backdrop down the middle
Go n-scale
boring vid