You don't see the rest of the Klaus/Stefan stuff unless you watched the originals cause that was one of the crossover episodes! That's why some people wanted you to watch both at the same time.
@@Web497 Everytime I watch TVD it makes me so tired seeing her getting treated like that Spoiler And when we all thought she finally found happiness with Enzo racist Julie killed him off just so Bonnie wouldn’t get her happy ending SAME WITH STEFAN 💀
@@Web497 right?!!! Like how can u forbid natural hair from a beautiful black woman who’s btw one of the only ones in the whole show consisting of 8 seasons 💀 JUST TO GET “AESTHETICS” thinking there would be no backlash... also when I watched TVD for the first time I was very much younger and didn’t quite understand things like that BUT when I rewatched last year I noticed how EVERY black character was killed off in the same episode he or she appeared or had almost no screen time besides of BONNIE who got screwed over EVERY SEASON and people really got manipulated into thinking Elena was the victim of the show, Katherine the survivor and Damon and Stefan the heroes - without Bonnie they’d all be dead by season 1 or 2. The only character I believe was consistent too is Marcel (i didn’t watch legacies yet so idk how that situation is)
@@Web497 read the whole thing and I agree 💯 Its okay that everyone has their own opinions but it doesn’t sit right with me that people dismiss LITERALLY PROOF I STATED IN MY COMMENTS that just makes me angry and to think that people too would believe them.... always will be #Teamjacob but im not the biggest Twilight fan. Normally when people say they are team Edward they usually say how HOT he is, same with Damon and it annoys me very much like can u actually bring arguments on the table as to how Stefan wouldn’t be >>>> 💀
Damon leaving is very selfish, but makes a lot of sense when you think about the season leading up to this, he has constantly tried to help and do whats right and has made mistakes and been blamed and criticized by nearly everyone, (both justified and unjustified) so after all the times hes been told he messed up or to stop trying hes decided the best thing to do is take take himself out of the picture, whether or not this is the right decision, it makes sense
Its like they tried to put everything on Damon. Thats what odd they call him the bad brother and they would dump all their problems on him. When he tries to fix them, he gets blamed. He doesnt do anything he gets blamed. The fact people get angry at him knowing the context of the siuation and how badly they treated him this season, i understand what he did. Even if its maybe wrong.
@@Web497 Why are you in all caps? It’s not that serious. And what does Elena falling out of love with Stephan and falling in love with Damon have to do with anything? Yeah he choose to stand by him after he stole Elena cause he saw that Elena was the best thing for Damon and that she was good for him too in a way. And then he feel in love with Caroline. Dumbass get the fuck out the comment section if you’re not going to be logical.
@@darkclouds7556 You have to be patient, nothing he says is logical 😂 he's just an ignorant stolker who bothers all Damon fans like we can't love this character and we have to love Stefan.
This episode is sad. “Before her, I didn’t know what it was like to be happy, to be fulfilled, to be complete. But now I do and now that I know that feeling, to live without it, there’s no point” He loves Elena so much and he’s so miserable rn bc nothing he does seems to be right, it’s heartbreaking.
20:27 Kat Graham acted the hell out of this scene right here.. she did such an amazing job, I just love her to pieces! Also, I had to look up her name because I wasn’t sure what her real name is, and did you know her full first name is “Katerina”?? Which is what Klaus calls Katherine all the time. I thought that was pretty neat. ☺️
“ We both know these last few months have been impossible for me. I’ve been walking a tight rope, falling off constantly. I’m not a good brother when I’m not with Elena and when I’m not a good brother people get hurt” I hate that he felt that way bc even when he tried to help, Damon was made to feel like he was just making things worse or like he was a burden. Multiple people, even Valerie, were making Damon feel bad about himself so I’m not shocked he just chose to desiccate. He’s going away so that nobody feels like they have to ‘save him’ anymore, puts themselves at risk for him, and so they don’t have to feel like he’s ‘creating more problems’.
Yeeeaaaah. You see, that's so selfish. Yeah het gets blamed for doing stupid mistakes but it's not him who's being hunted down, it's not him who's in Bonnie or Stefan's position. They were begging him to stay because they needed him but all he cared about is his guilt and his own emotions.
Bonnies and Damon’s connection and that scene- think about the growth from season one.... I can’t with this show. This episode also shows the fact that he did literally befriend everyone who didn’t like him at first lol. The letters. 😫
I think that the emotion in the scene with Damon and Stefan comes from us seeing Stefan begging his brother to stay by his side and us knowing that he won't.
I find it so funny how I barely remember these episodes, while s1-4 I know by heart basically... even the actual lines they speak. But this? Yikes. I can't wait for s8. BUUUT the highlight is that Bamon scene for sure. "This hurts me" truly hurt the entire fandom. Bonnie is such a legend.
I love LOVE *LOVE* that you have noticed how incredibly beautiful Bonnie/Kat Graham is. I mean, Bonnie was always cute, but Jeeeesusssss, she is GORGEOUS.
People saying that Damon is depending on Elena and doesn’t know himself aren’t really getting everything that led up to this…of course having your partner with you when things are tough provides comfort, it’s nice having someone through thick and thin but how is any of this putting pressure on Elena? She doesn’t have to tell him what to do and she’s not even there. He’s capable of being good without her and he does know himself but since she left all anyone has said is that he basically messes everything up so he has no reason to believe that there’s any point in being there or trying to be good, either way people get mad at him.
He is good and he was good even without Elena before turning off his humanity with Enzo because if we think up to that moment Damon has lived a normal life as a vampire without being a serial killer and neither bothered his brother being years without humanity until when Elena has access to his humanity and has dug step by step into his humanity making it come out and he is convinced as well as the others that Damon is good only in Elena's presence. It is normal to feel lost and sometimes you have no urge to live knowing that you have to wait for 60 years to reach her and be happy once and for all as well. I just wish Damon had more self-esteem and defended his reputation more rebelling those who say they are not a good person
@@Web497 I laugh at your ignorance and not because you are correct, what can be correct if you are a toxic fanatic of Stefan that if it were true he would also make him sick.
Agreed, also what really proves this is when he was out of the stone and attacked everyone unintentionally, they seemed to not care about him anymore and no one was checking on him. Then when he starts acting up because of the hallucinations, they start blaming him all over again.
I see why people call him selfish for this, but they are degrading his feelings too. Damon knows himself, and he knows what he needs to do for himself to be ok, and I think and always thought they should have respected that. They are all being selfish by wanting him to stay for them instead of letting him what he needs to do for him.
A heartbreaking episode concerning Bamon 🥺 👉🏼 In this scene I understand both… it's so hard for Damon to wait for Elena while living his life without her bc he feels responsible for everything that has happened wrong since she was gone… And Bonnie needs her best friend by her side or she doesn't have anyone else close to her. And walking away, Damon breaks her heart bc she thinks he doesn't love her enough to stay with her until Elena wakes up that's why she blames him for to be a bad friend to do that to her… bc by doing that she will not be able to see him again and I understand her sm 💔
The writing in this season makes no sense to me. It’s the same good brother and bad brother thing they’ve been trying to convince the viewers of throughout this whole show. Why is Rayna saying she doesn’t want to kill Stefan and that he doesn’t deserve the mark but somebody else does. She’s not supposed to care about the people she marks 🤨
@@Web497 She goes after and hunts the vampires she marks. She also said in this episode that she plans to carry out her father’s vision: a world without vampires.
Reyna, however, does not know that Stefan is the ripper in three years Stefan had to be good and this is what she knows about him but Reyna forgets or does not know that Stefan's soul is more stained than Damon 😂 and he is more dangerous Damon 10 times for humans just Reyna is there with Damon because he confronted her first and knocked her out several times which is why he says Damon deserves the brand more.
Just noticed something that came back around. Damon says “I was thinking of doing the desiccation diet, bc desiccation makes the time go faster” to Elena in 6x22 and now he says the last few months have been impossible so he desiccates beside her coffin and tells everyone to wake him up when Elena is back 😭
About Damon dissecting, it was to show how the years went by, it wasn't like it happened overnight. And when Klaus appears, there was an episode in "The Originals" that was a continuation of the episode that ran on TVD, Stefan even appeared there in TO, so ended up having an explanation about the herb and everything else. I love your videos btw, xo from Brazil!!!
I'm so glad they chose to keep Elena in mind and she is mentioned and that Damon wants to keep her "alive" as if she were with him. The love he has for Elena is not toxic like so many shoot bullshit but it is called "unconditional love" are rare loves not all capable of feeling otherwise a passionate like Damon, I am happy that he never gives up on her and neither sacrifices her their future the problem is in this whole story is that Damon must understand that he is good even without Elena who was good even before he met her and if humanity confuses his need to have her in his life to be happy with "only I'm good with her present "a self-esteem speech that was destroyed but Damon even if he makes us angry as always will know how to be forgiven ... why? because he's Damon Salvatore
You’ll see what happened with klaus/Stefan on the originals. This is why some viewers asked if you was watching them together, because 7x14 and an episode in the originals is a crossover with Stefan & klaus.
TVD did the time jump to catch the show up to the present time in real life. the first two seasons were 1 year, the third and fourth were one year etc. Because of that, the show ended up being three years behind so that's why they chose to jump 3 years.
They actually were 1 year ahead because of the 3 year time jump, as they were 2 years behind. After the time jump, it’s 2017 in season 7 and this season aired in 2016 :)
I'm at the mercy of memories, I remember when in season 5 Enzo on the other side was killing Luke, Stefan and Damon. I remember that Damon made Stefan and Luke come out of the fire putting them to safety and he was left with a piece of wood trying to convince the ghost Enzo in short save the two but who took credit in front of Luke, Stefan because later he tells Liv that he can't kill Stefan because he saved his life and Stefan neither dreamily told Luke that he actually saved my brother mio
so damon just left stefan to go desiccate beside elena ? someone that’s not going to wake up ? he just leaves his brother who is marked ? wtf stefan took that mark FOR him he could atleast stay with him .. damon doesn’t know who he is without elena & that’s sad and PLEASE don’t tell me that’s what love is because it’s not and then he goes and leave bonnie … it makes no sense .. he’d rather desiccate next to elena when he can see her again one day when bonnie dies than to actually live his life with bonnie until he can see elena again … by the time he wakes up bonnie will be dead .. did he forget he’s a vampire ? he’ll still be there & he can see elena .. but there will be no bonnie
It's just another stupid attempt by the horrible writers to keep Elena relevant in the show by making Damon's whole existence revolve around her. They were threatened by the Bamon ship so all the development Damon had in him because of Bonnie (not relying on somebody to be good but being good for himself), they just had to throw away in the trash. Because let's be honest, Elena never made him a better person like Bonnie did, she just made him more obsessive, toxic & dependent than he already was. But we know the writers could never have Bonnie all the shine, could they?
@@erieluvie0905 finally someone with a brain .. yes he did “ right by her “ but it never meant shit because when they wasn’t together he was doing horrible things so he was only good in the moment so how exactly did she make him better ? these are REAL examples of making someone better : stefan + elena = he fought to stay a GOOD person to be with elena & when he didn’t have her he still was that person .. even after she broke his heart many times stefan + lexi = she showed him good and he hasn’t turned away from that since i don’t have anymore in mind but those are just two examples of ACTUALLY changing somebody he just became way too dependent & obsessive & so did she
I know I am a year late, so nobody is gonna see this, but there is something that I have always been so confused about. Surely Rayna wanting every vampire dead, she would just go for the originals so then every other vampire dies. Seems like it would save her a lot of time😂
Another moment when Damon kills Tyler's uncle, in the final Stefan, Bonnie and Jeremy help him catch him but you can at the dirty work they all spun and left Damon alone so you can be criticized by everyone 😂.
Stefan you were a hero when you sacrificed everything with Klaus and for this I adored you but you can you came back and you only thought about revenge by hurting and behaving badly with the people you chose to sacrifice, now dear Stefan you have not sacrificed but you helped your brother who accidentally found yourself sacrificing yourself to stay alive and not for Damon, blame him and make him feel a burden then don't do it doesn't make sense. Damon has done so much for you anyway but he has always been silent and never threw in your face what he did for you remained behind the scenes and when you were wrong dear Stefan he never criticized you he supported you yes he is united with you and he justified why you did a certain thing example many times in front of Elena, he always maintained your reputation as a good guy because he knows how much you care and he was a hitman for you because if he left it to you you would have lived 100 years of guilt and you let him do you never said no brother I don't want you to get your hands dirty for me. Oh yes dear Stefan so many things that if you appreciated it would be better your brother would not abandon you.
The writers tried so hard to convince the audience that Damon was a complete mess without Elena, but he blossomed in her absence. He had already changed because of Bonnie's influence on him ...not Elena's. Elena's influence was basically to enable him and then give him a tap on the hand before sex. That's it. He became a better man because of Bonnie. He had feelings for her that he was also running away from to the coffin. That last scene between them was a lover's breakup scene, but they were forced to say the word "best friend" a million times to desperately try to defuse the sexual chemistry and love between them. I saw straight through it. If he sleeps til Bonnie is gone, then the temptation to be with her is taken away from him as a choice. But how they set up this scene, they digressed his mindset into..."Oh. I can't behave unless Elena is here to pat me on the head and give me sex treats to show I am worthy." Bs. He had so much character development, as they tried character assassination of Stefan. When the show began, everyone liked and respected him. They made friends with him. Somewhere, the writers pulled all his friends and allies from him and gave them all to Damon. And then there's the Sabotage of Bamon. It's so overstated that JP will never let Bamon happen...even though she dangled their relationship like a carrot once the ratings dropped and they needed the views back. It is official. Caroline has had every male character at her heels, besides Jeremy. I kind of didn't mind her and Ric. I never thought her and Stefan should have been together. She seemed more like a Lexi 2.0. But they pushed for them and now we get another triangle. Well...square if you count the heretic. How people can say they are the perfect pair and not think the same about Bamon, when they are practically the same mirrored scenario, minus the kids. Plus, the saving each other constantly. He made her more assertive and gave her influence to be more bold so that she could demand more of things she wanted, unapologetically. They were each other's touch stone. #Bamon💞💜
I remembered a particular now distant season 3 but important ... Damon and Stefan had to kill one of the Bennets the mother or Bonnie, they play the coin game and Stefan was the one who had to kill one of the two but Damon did it because he knew what one more crime on conscience meant for Stefan. Stefan knows he has lost but he still leaves his brother to do it without objecting or trying to find another solution as Bonnie had told Damon "there is always a choice" no more than after not even trying to justify Damon in front of Bonnie or apologize to Bonnie and tell the truth how things went he spun and remained the good guy and Damon the bad as always taking all the hatred of everyone and nor did he expect thanks from Stefan that if it weren't for Stefan a to quit the speech he would have been silent and that is when Stefan neither speaks and tells him without making him feel the weight of his sacrifice to get his hands dirty for him. already and there are other moments of these.
@@_.xoxo.mel._6588 This is Damon Salvatore ... Stefan's sacrifices make him the martyr the good the hero Damon's sacrifices make him the bad and the selfish Damon's sacrifices are behind the scenes Stefan's sacrifices are in public and everyone applauds and they say "woh what a saint" for Damon everyone goes blind and pretends not to see and yes as if that were not enough he is also humble he never takes the stage instead Stefan says and shouts "I did everything, I gave up everything for you "It's a pity dear Stefan that you never gave up on your reputation as a good boy for your brother because when there was a dirty job to do you spun and always pointed the finger and when your brother had something and was chosen and loved one only once in his life you tried to destroy this until you realized how asshole you were towards your brother.
As much as I didn't like the three years in the future thing too, I did prefer the Defan scene knowing that he'd go and leave Stefan. For me knowing how it would go made the hearing Stefan's words even harder and more emotional. So I preferred that over the tension of will he won't he.
The truth of this series is that all the characters when they needed a villain went and teamed up with Damon when they could but it was time for the accounts everyone was spinning and everyone was moralizing and hate took Damon and now it's still like this . Except that at the time Damon cared little about what people thought of him now this weighs him down because he wants to have a good reputation too because Elena is proud of him but he is forced to come back bad and this devastates him because he would like to take a position of either I am good or I am bad but he is not left alone.
I don’t agree with what Damon’s does at all this episode, but it’s kind of understandable. He’s sort of always felt like he does everything wrong and messes everything up for everyone all the time. That’s honestly one of his biggest character flaws. He hates himself. He feels like he’s a burden on everyone and feels as though he always puts the people he cares about in danger. That’s definitely not true most of the time. He just has people who care about him and are willing to sacrifice for him. He is constantly berated by everyone too though whether is is justified or not, so it makes sense that he would just think that everyone is better off without him, especially after everything that’s been going wrong lately. That scene at the end with him and Bonnie though always breaks my heart. The way she says that she doesn’t want to live without her best friend while crying always gets me 😭. We are caught up with everyone’s positions before the time jump now, so that’s good.
Exactly you are right no one agrees with him even though I appreciate the choice to get away from his brother since he blames him for everything but instead of drying up and leaving Bonnie I would have taken her with me if she wanted and I would go a bit far from my brother's life. But everyone hammers him that it's his fault etc. psychologically he feels disgusting making him a depressed emotional self-harm
damon is so annoying sometimes like you can literally spend a life time with your two best friends AND THEN spend a life time with elena. especially leaving your brother when he’s literally being hunted to death🙄
I think the whole point of why he did this wasn’t to be with Elena quicker, it was him not wanting to mess up and hurt everyone else, because that’s what everyone has been telling him lately that he ruins everything, so he doesn’t want to burden them
@@miadavies1575i honestly think it’s a little bit of both but .. he didn’t make the situation better because now they’re mad at him for leaving them it’s super selfish
@@miadavies1575 which is the truth. But they didn't want him to go away. They want him to do better. That was so selfish, childish, and immature. It's like you being called out because of your mistakes and you chose to leave instead of correcting them cause that takes so much effort.
I think Damon could’ve done that in a better way but I completely understand why he did it with almost everyone constantly criticizing and putting him down.
Damon, I agree with him to take out of Stefan's life since from the start of the season it's "all Damon's fault" but as much as I agree with his choice I would also like to give him some beating and tell him to end with "me without Elena I'm not good, I'm the bad one without her "well Damon fuck this is not true chase some self-esteem and pride because you have always been good, don't let everyone make you think that you are the bad one just because for a while you have been like everyone else, Elena just reminded you of this and gave you your lost and forgotten humanity for years since you turned off humanity. So you want to take yourself out of the life of others but because you don't feel very well appreciated let the respectable and moralists live their lives in peace but not because without Elena you are the bad guy.
I personally didn't like that Damon pulled this. The whole "i'm not good without elena." thing I don't like either as he shouldn't have so much pressure on her to make him good. Plus Elena wanted him to live his life she wouldn't want him deciding to stay in a coffin for years and wait until she wakes up. It was just a bad thing to do to his two closest friends and his brother too..
I agree, honestly. It's my one big issue with Delena, because it always gives it this co-dependent, almost toxic quality. And I thought they had honestly gotten over it in season 5. Season 6 imo proved that Damon is perfectly capable of being good without her - in fact, I believe Bonnie made him see that. Which is why I found this a bit frustrating... but I guess it was their attempt to keep mentioning Elena?
@@4Tom4lepus4 literally! That's one of the reasons I never could get behind delena. Bonnie also dosent put up with his crap and is actually a better influence on him. I just saw him as kind of weak in this situation. You don't see anyone else in elena's life feeling they need to go in a box
I don’t like what Damon did either, I don’t think it was the right way to handle this, but from Damon’s point of view, the entire season Stefan has been doing nothing but getting angry at him for everything. Whether it is justified or not. Damon has always hated himself and never feels like he deserves anything. That one of his biggest flaws. So, everything that’s been going wrong lately he feels like it’s his fault, even if it isn’t. He’s also been hearing that it’s his fault constantly as well, which just makes him feel worse, so it’s sort of understandable that he would feel like everyone is just better off without him. I don’t think it’s even really about Elena. It’s about Damon himself thinking that he can’t do anything right, and it’s just compounded over the season as things have gotten worse. He’s just using Elena as scapegoat. Stefan didn’t really even try to understand why Damon would think that he’s better off in a box than staying with him.
@@baileym8303 Exactly!! I think people who don't try to see it from his POV have got to be doing it on purpose or something, because we literally see this throughout the season.
So, you see, why that's sometimes confusing not to watch the Originals. Now you are blaming the writers for that time jump, which wasn't. It was a crossover with the Originals, so there is a episode missing. Stefan was in New Orleans with Klaus and others of that show. You will see that, when you watch it, I think that's season 3, episode 14.
I sort of get where Matt’s coming from, but like if the vampires leave Mystic Falls they’re going to go somewhere else and do the same thing, so why doesn’t Matt just move? There’s nothing keeping him in Mystic Falls. If a bunch of vampires are already there, it’s literally easier for Matt to just leave town and leave the vampires be. It’s also odd to me that he suddenly now has this big of problem with everything. I know these ideas have been building since season 6, but he’s been actively helping them with things for years because they’re his friends. He knows how they are. Just because things have gotten worse in the town, it’s not necessarily their fault. Stefan and Damon have actually been trying to help. It’s not like they actively try to hurt people. So, this is the point where I was kind of like just get over it or leave.
This is one of the weirdest comment sections I’ve seen under a tvd reaction. Some people are mad bc by their interpretation they took this episode as Damon leaving everyone for a girl. That’s not what’s happening. He’s been trying to do good yet people keep getting hurt and he’s getting blamed for it despite that not being his intention. He thinks leaving is doing everyone a favor. Also, not that this should even have to be said but Damon was obviously going to change through the seasons so I don’t get people who say ‘he was better before’. He was an antagonist before getting to know Elena and his character is not one dimensional. A complex character needs development he couldn’t just stay the same way he was in the beginning episodes of season 1. Without development what brother moments would we get or even seeing him have best friends. He needs to be shown caring about people and forming bonds with the girl he loves, his brother, and his friends. The whole point is that him changing has to do with him wanting to be a better person. Elena was his biggest influence for his change and was the catalyst for it all but there’s also multiple moments that affect him, such as his time with Rose and with Liz. Why are people calling him pathetic for meeting a girl who brought out his humanity and why are people acting like him changing isn’t for him when in the end only he can make that change happen if he wants to.
Caroline and Stefan are with Stefan but also with Caroline. Stefan is a lucky boy in love in short, all women fall in love with him and love him and they all love him more than he loves them but as much as his luck that they all fall in love with him it also seems that as girlfriends he is not lucky enough to having them for a long time not because he does much to fight to keep them close but in short I was sorry to see Caroline and Ric with the girls a happy family and he leave or the disappointment when he proposed to travel the world but she chose the girls and stay alongside Alaric. On the other hand Caroline is a mother and yet a great mother does not put a man above her children and this has my esteem that Stefan expected that he would leave the girls like this and give them up. I think it had to be a bit 'and a bit' around the world but also next to the daughters until the wound would not open again.
I’m gonna rant, things in this season honestly get me annoyed. “I saved your life time and time again, I chose you, I sacrificed everyone and everything for you and you’re just gonna turn your back on me” is lowkey manipulative towards Damon by being like ‘I did all this for you so you owe me this and shouldn’t leave me’. Maybe if he hadn’t been constantly making Damon feel like an annoyance and telling him he just made things worse then Damon wouldn’t have felt like he had to take himself out of the way. Stefan has said multiple times he can’t be happy with Damon in his life and then Damon tries to go in order to make things ‘better’ for everyone and that’s an issue too. Also, it’s not like Damon hasn’t done similar things for him. Damon ‘died’ to get rid of the travelers and get his brother back. That led to him being in a prison world for 4 months without knowing if he would ever get back or see his friends/girlfriend but is he throwing that in Stefans face? Damon also ended up in the stone bc of Stefan not listening and he was hallucinating after getting out but did Damon hold that against him? Not only that, Damon got rid of all but one of Raynas lives and made sure the armory had her before saying that he was leaving so he wasn’t ‘turning his back’ on Stefan. This is why most of Stefan’s actions in the show come off as not being genuine to me. He does something and has to be praised for it by other characters or he constantly brings it up. I get it, Stefan just wants his brother with him but at the same time he doesn’t really act like it bc some of the things he says don’t make it seem that way. I wish Stefan would actually listen to what Damon is saying and realize why he feels this way.
Finally someone says how things are I do not know guys but I hate people who reproach you, I save you brother but all my life I make you weigh it, never heard Damon saying to Stefan I did for you I sacrificed myself etc. indeed he always hid what good he did for him I remember in season 4 when there was the flashback with Lexi maybe 1944 when it was Lexi who asked to get away from Stefan and he says "did you ever think I need to my little brother "formerly Lexi another who criticized Damon without a reason and kept his brothers apart, Stefan always knew that his brother was just gone and left instead Damon simply sacrifice his need to have his brother in his life and make up with him to make Stefan feel good and not come back a ripper again ... he said nothing and Stefan blamed him for you can be blown away by what he did for him and how things went ... as Damon told him .... You don't know anything about your brother's Stefan because you are more busy putting him in a bad light.
@@Web497 Nah disappear you and the hypocrite of Stefan an arrogant who is a hero and you can point the finger ... sin that he has a brother like Damon who is told about everything I would have sung a few things.
i know i am pretty late but thats not true at all stefan gave himself over to klaus and expected nothing in return he lost everything so that damon could live...he respected delena's relationship so much when katherine in elena's body trying to sleep with him he stopped her stefan rather lose the girl than his brother...stefan was extremely hurt here he once again sacrificed everything..he told damon that he couldnt stay with caroline due to the kids being in danger and he told him that the armory cant be trusted he had no one and just wanted damon to stay by his side so ofc he would be disappointed if his brother walks away when he needs him the most...when did stefan ever bring up leaving with klaus?when did stefan ever bring up resepcting delena's relationship and not sleeping with katherine/elena because delena broke up, stefan wasnt even bringing up the rayna matter before damon decided to leave him when he needs him the most
I agree with you 100% about how the show really effed up by showing the whole “3 years later” bull crap the first few episodes of this season.. the whole scene in this episode where Damon is telling Stefan he is going to desiccate and Stefan is practically begging him not to would’ve been 1,000 times more emotional had we not known whether Damon would walk out the door or not. Huge mistake on the writers part for sure. I hate any type of spoiler with a passion, which is one reason I hound you quite a bit about looking up the actors while watching a show because I’m so afraid you’ll accidentally spoil something about the show for yourself, lol.. 😉
the first time I saw reina I was sure she was suppose to be another doppleganger, but they choose an other atress because Nina didn't want to play in the show anymore. so they just use an other actress and forget the idea of doppleganger for this caracter
This episode alone was when I stopped liking Matt, without these vampires he would have died in the river. I agree he was terribly written I loved him in the beginning
This is the most selfish thing Damon ever did in the whole show tbh. Time and time again Stefan chose Damon, and the one time Stefan asked him to choose his brother, Damon chose to abandon Stefan and wallow in his own self-pity. I liked Damon but I was so disgusted with him when he did this.
Nope they weren't only Enzo is a vampire turned by lily salvatore, but his family collects supernatural related things or supernatural beings and keeps it under observation
Stefan what do you want you slaughtered your brother by blaming him in everything from the middle of season 5 and until the end of season 6 you were lovely and for the first time you were defending your brother's reputation and made sure everyone saw the real Damon but you can sometimes you remember that you are too kind towards him and you change the way we see now I ruin my brother's self-esteem and if someone criticizes him I team up with them but if he disappears from your life you do everything offended .... also now entered the front door he had already started to criticize him "how you did not kill her, how you solved but you did not solve" you will also be a treasure who saves your brother as he does it with you but just ruin the image of your brother he was doing his best to save you so appreciating others would be more welcome.
Damon is just pathetic since season 5.......I told people his ass depends on Elena like a parasite and hers on him......they are toxic and i really hate how the writers handled that............... Damon was a way better character when he was no with Elena....
Damon deserves to dessaicate lol just wait to 8x10 you’ll be happy again s8 is way better I promise, but at least he left writing letters instead of just leaving
Stefan pisses me off a little here with how self-righteous he is. First, the whole "I chose you, I sacrificed for you" BS... right, because it's not like Damon ever literally died and spent a few months in a prison world to bring you back from the Other Side, no, Stefan, you're the only one who's ever made sacrifices. And if you do make a sacrifice for someone, then whine because they refuse to live their lives the way you want them to, then your so-called sacrifice isn't worth shit.
@@Web497 In no way did I justify Damon's choice. But there is a HUGE difference between Bonnie's "I'll never see you again, this hurts me" and Stefan's "how can you do this after everything I've sacrificed for you?" As if Damon has never made sacrifices himself. I didn't say anything about Damon making the wrong choice because enough characters on the show are saying it for me. But nobody on the show was commenting on what a self-righteous dick Stefan was being. If Stefan's response had been more like Bonnie's, saying how it hurt him and what if they never got to see each other again, then I'd be on Stefan's side. But the whole "you owe me" pile of crap Stefan actually did lay on just makes me want to bitch slap him.
@@peggin169 She forced him to be a vampire and left him for 50 years and passes without humanity after only one attempt in 1977 with Lexi and as she failed she left her like this despite knowing that Damon has lost his reason as told by him in the woman's flashback. Enzo and when in 1994 he sought help and stimuli with his humanity, Stefan gives him rules to a vampire without humanity and since he has broken the rules instead of going with him to give him the stimuli and emotions to turn on his humanity, he closes him and he says "beautiful words" ... I wish you didn't exist ... already and they have the courage to say that Stefan is the best brother 😂
I agree. I understand why Stefan is upset, but Damon has never once asked Stefan to sacrifice anything for him. Actually he’s told him not to before but Stefan always does it anyway. That’s great, because he loves his brother, but when he does sacrifice things for Damon and bad things happen to him as a result, that’s not Damon’s fault. Stefan’s the one who made that choice. Stefan should know by now how Damon will react to certain things as well. If he continues to blame Damon for things that aren’t his fault, Damon is going to believe it, feel like a piece of shit and feel guilty, which will eventually make him think everyone’s better off without him. Then, every time Damon tries to leave Stefan doesn’t want him to and gets angry at him for that. Sometimes I’m like Stefan, make up your mind on what you want Damon to do! Because he gets angry at him either way.
I thought the one person Damon would not walk away from would have been Stefan I understand why he's doing it but it is selfish in a way, as you're leaving your brother and friends to deal with things while you're gone. I really felt bad for Stefan like he never walked away from Damon but I think Damon was acting like a coward.
I love your reactions as a first time viewer, but I definitely feel like a lot of your opinions about what you wish would’ve happened in the writing is coming from a place where you don’t truly know where it’s leading to. S7 is maybe not the best example of this cuz it was not the strongest season but I think certain stuff seems pointless or unnecessary at first u til you see where they take it to, like where it leads to.. The time jump sucked and I hated it all up until they jumped forward towards the end and it made sense
@@erieluvie0905 no problem. It was in season 5 when Katherine put herself inside the safe with Stefan and she was comforting him. She put her hands on his face and was like “I’m here, I’m with you. We’re together.” Before Caroline opened it. So when Stefan healed here and Valerie was with him, Jer kind of said that quote
And as much as I appreciate the fact that Damon left Stefan this season as he's in self-righteous, self-righteous mode and criticism blaming Damon for everything obviously I don't agree that I abandoned my Bonnie because she only to stay by his side and believe in him without criticizing him as she once did it broke my heart I thought that in the final he would come back to his would happen at Bonnie and go with her a little bit far from Mystic Falls and far from the brother.
JUST WHEN I WAS STARTING TO LIKE DAMON , he does something selfish. it’s just the fact that OvER A GIRL . It’s pathetic that we’re 7 season in and we still pulllin stunts like this 🙄🙄
It's just another stupid attempt by the writers to keep mentioning Elena in the show by making Damon fully dysfunctional without her. That's the reason I hate delena, they are too co dependent which is very toxic. But Damon had a little improvement in that department because of Bonnie, she made him be good for himself not just for Elena. But honestly with this episode, the writers took all that development and shoved it in the trash.
@@aianajones8702 I wish too that Bamon would've happened. I liked Damon with Bonnie and Stefan with anybody other than Elena or Katherine. But for once the writers just couldn't have Bonnie all the shine, could they? They were threatened by Bamon because it'd have been 100 times better & more powerful than stupid dullena.
Damon is the worst. Honestly the worst! Stefan and Bonnie always get hurt and they always get screwed over because of Damon or Elena! The reason i will never ship delena is because of the way they both are so selfish to the point that everyone around them get hurt. All Damon had to do was try a be a good person for himself and the people he so called loves other than Elena. He didn't even try. His obsession with Elena and her obsession with him is NOT healthy at all. It's beyond toxic! The worst part is Elena is not even dead.. but Bonnie and Alaric who is supposed to be his bestfriends will be dead when him and Elena finally wake up. I feel so bad for Stefan. He should have let Damon go years a go. He would have had the life he deserves without Damon. I have to say i was pretty much over this show by this season but this episode made me finally stop watching. If they wanted Damon to finally be a good person, they should have written him differently. They could have used this season to work on himself and finally make him the person that everyone acts like he is(his fans). Stefan and Bonnie should leave them all behind! 😂
So true! Seems like the writers just wanted to keep Elena relevant in the show by making Damon's entire existence revolve around her, because fans were getting ideas about Bamon. And for the first time it felt like Damon was having a real development by not relying on somebody to be good, only because of Bonnie which Elena could never do. She just made him more obsessive & dependent. But no, the writers just had to take all that development and shove it in the trash just so they could keep that stupid dullena ship sailing. Plus they never could just have Bonnie all the credit for once smh!
@@Web497 Yeah, i remember watching some videos on youtube of comic con and interviews. Julie and Caroline were both super weird. Specifically if Bamon was brought up. The way Bonnie was treated should tell you all you need to know about these people.
You don't see the rest of the Klaus/Stefan stuff unless you watched the originals cause that was one of the crossover episodes! That's why some people wanted you to watch both at the same time.
I felt so sorry for Bonnie this episode (not like her character doesn’t get screwed over every season)
@@Web497 Everytime I watch TVD it makes me so tired seeing her getting treated like that
Spoiler
And when we all thought she finally found happiness with Enzo racist Julie killed him off just so Bonnie wouldn’t get her happy ending SAME WITH STEFAN 💀
@@Web497 right?!!! Like how can u forbid natural hair from a beautiful black woman who’s btw one of the only ones in the whole show consisting of 8 seasons 💀 JUST TO GET “AESTHETICS” thinking there would be no backlash... also when I watched TVD for the first time I was very much younger and didn’t quite understand things like that BUT when I rewatched last year I noticed how EVERY black character was killed off in the same episode he or she appeared or had almost no screen time besides of BONNIE who got screwed over EVERY SEASON and people really got manipulated into thinking Elena was the victim of the show, Katherine the survivor and Damon and Stefan the heroes - without Bonnie they’d all be dead by season 1 or 2. The only character I believe was consistent too is Marcel (i didn’t watch legacies yet so idk how that situation is)
@@Web497 read the whole thing and I agree 💯 Its okay that everyone has their own opinions but it doesn’t sit right with me that people dismiss LITERALLY PROOF I STATED IN MY COMMENTS that just makes me angry and to think that people too would believe them.... always will be #Teamjacob but im not the biggest Twilight fan. Normally when people say they are team Edward they usually say how HOT he is, same with Damon and it annoys me very much like can u actually bring arguments on the table as to how Stefan wouldn’t be >>>> 💀
@@melozn-u1s wait, she was forbidden????????
I just noticed a parallel between the scene where stefan asks damon to stay and when caroline asks stefan to stay
Same. I never noticed it before and it just made me go ‘does Stefan understand what she was going through now!?’ Lol
@@BrightStick14 same!
Damon leaving is very selfish, but makes a lot of sense when you think about the season leading up to this, he has constantly tried to help and do whats right and has made mistakes and been blamed and criticized by nearly everyone, (both justified and unjustified) so after all the times hes been told he messed up or to stop trying hes decided the best thing to do is take take himself out of the picture, whether or not this is the right decision, it makes sense
Its like they tried to put everything on Damon. Thats what odd they call him the bad brother and they would dump all their problems on him. When he tries to fix them, he gets blamed. He doesnt do anything he gets blamed. The fact people get angry at him knowing the context of the siuation and how badly they treated him this season, i understand what he did. Even if its maybe wrong.
@@Web497 Why are you in all caps? It’s not that serious. And what does Elena falling out of love with Stephan and falling in love with Damon have to do with anything? Yeah he choose to stand by him after he stole Elena cause he saw that Elena was the best thing for Damon and that she was good for him too in a way. And then he feel in love with Caroline. Dumbass get the fuck out the comment section if you’re not going to be logical.
@@darkclouds7556 You have to be patient, nothing he says is logical 😂 he's just an ignorant stolker who bothers all Damon fans like we can't love this character and we have to love Stefan.
@@andreearamona1 right!! If anything he’s the attention seeker 😂
Exactly, which is why to this day I don't understand why everyone around him couldn't understand his point of view.
This episode is sad. “Before her, I didn’t know what it was like to be happy, to be fulfilled, to be complete. But now I do and now that I know that feeling, to live without it, there’s no point” He loves Elena so much and he’s so miserable rn bc nothing he does seems to be right, it’s heartbreaking.
@@Web497 bro… What the fuck are you talking about? 😂😂😂
@@darkclouds7556 he needs help 😂
20:27 Kat Graham acted the hell out of this scene right here.. she did such an amazing job, I just love her to pieces! Also, I had to look up her name because I wasn’t sure what her real name is, and did you know her full first name is “Katerina”?? Which is what Klaus calls Katherine all the time. I thought that was pretty neat. ☺️
“ We both know these last few months have been impossible for me. I’ve been walking a tight rope, falling off constantly. I’m not a good brother when I’m not with Elena and when I’m not a good brother people get hurt” I hate that he felt that way bc even when he tried to help, Damon was made to feel like he was just making things worse or like he was a burden. Multiple people, even Valerie, were making Damon feel bad about himself so I’m not shocked he just chose to desiccate. He’s going away so that nobody feels like they have to ‘save him’ anymore, puts themselves at risk for him, and so they don’t have to feel like he’s ‘creating more problems’.
Yeeeaaaah. You see, that's so selfish. Yeah het gets blamed for doing stupid mistakes but it's not him who's being hunted down, it's not him who's in Bonnie or Stefan's position. They were begging him to stay because they needed him but all he cared about is his guilt and his own emotions.
I think my heart broke for Stefan this episode. Especially when he watched Damon walk away and Caroline look happy with her little happy family
Bonnies and Damon’s connection and that scene- think about the growth from season one.... I can’t with this show. This episode also shows the fact that he did literally befriend everyone who didn’t like him at first lol. The letters. 😫
I think that the emotion in the scene with Damon and Stefan comes from us seeing Stefan begging his brother to stay by his side and us knowing that he won't.
Agree
@@Web497 Okay? Why are you commenting this to me? Also you are doing the same thing lol...
“You have until the end of the day”
“I mean it’s kinda night time matty” 😂😂
Like Caroline said to Stefan "I just wish that it didn't always have to be you"
I find it so funny how I barely remember these episodes, while s1-4 I know by heart basically... even the actual lines they speak. But this? Yikes. I can't wait for s8.
BUUUT the highlight is that Bamon scene for sure. "This hurts me" truly hurt the entire fandom. Bonnie is such a legend.
I love LOVE *LOVE* that you have noticed how incredibly beautiful Bonnie/Kat Graham is. I mean, Bonnie was always cute, but Jeeeesusssss, she is GORGEOUS.
People saying that Damon is depending on Elena and doesn’t know himself aren’t really getting everything that led up to this…of course having your partner with you when things are tough provides comfort, it’s nice having someone through thick and thin but how is any of this putting pressure on Elena? She doesn’t have to tell him what to do and she’s not even there. He’s capable of being good without her and he does know himself but since she left all anyone has said is that he basically messes everything up so he has no reason to believe that there’s any point in being there or trying to be good, either way people get mad at him.
He is good and he was good even without Elena before turning off his humanity with Enzo because if we think up to that moment Damon has lived a normal life as a vampire without being a serial killer and neither bothered his brother being years without humanity until when Elena has access to his humanity and has dug step by step into his humanity making it come out and he is convinced as well as the others that Damon is good only in Elena's presence. It is normal to feel lost and sometimes you have no urge to live knowing that you have to wait for 60 years to reach her and be happy once and for all as well. I just wish Damon had more self-esteem and defended his reputation more rebelling those who say they are not a good person
@@Web497 😂😂
@@Web497 I laugh at your ignorance and not because you are correct, what can be correct if you are a toxic fanatic of Stefan that if it were true he would also make him sick.
Agreed, also what really proves this is when he was out of the stone and attacked everyone unintentionally, they seemed to not care about him anymore and no one was checking on him. Then when he starts acting up because of the hallucinations, they start blaming him all over again.
You're finally seeing Matt and how terrible he's written thank you finally I can rest now sorry for being a big baby
I see why people call him selfish for this, but they are degrading his feelings too. Damon knows himself, and he knows what he needs to do for himself to be ok, and I think and always thought they should have respected that. They are all being selfish by wanting him to stay for them instead of letting him what he needs to do for him.
Very well said.
A heartbreaking episode concerning Bamon 🥺 👉🏼 In this scene I understand both… it's so hard for Damon to wait for Elena while living his life without her bc he feels responsible for everything that has happened wrong since she was gone… And Bonnie needs her best friend by her side or she doesn't have anyone else close to her. And walking away, Damon breaks her heart bc she thinks he doesn't love her enough to stay with her until Elena wakes up that's why she blames him for to be a bad friend to do that to her… bc by doing that she will not be able to see him again and I understand her sm 💔
The writing in this season makes no sense to me. It’s the same good brother and bad brother thing they’ve been trying to convince the viewers of throughout this whole show. Why is Rayna saying she doesn’t want to kill Stefan and that he doesn’t deserve the mark but somebody else does. She’s not supposed to care about the people she marks 🤨
@@Web497 NOBODY CARES
@@Web497 She goes after and hunts the vampires she marks. She also said in this episode that she plans to carry out her father’s vision: a world without vampires.
Reyna, however, does not know that Stefan is the ripper in three years Stefan had to be good and this is what she knows about him but Reyna forgets or does not know that Stefan's soul is more stained than Damon 😂 and he is more dangerous Damon 10 times for humans just Reyna is there with Damon because he confronted her first and knocked her out several times which is why he says Damon deserves the brand more.
Just noticed something that came back around. Damon says “I was thinking of doing the desiccation diet, bc desiccation makes the time go faster” to Elena in 6x22 and now he says the last few months have been impossible so he desiccates beside her coffin and tells everyone to wake him up when Elena is back 😭
About Damon dissecting, it was to show how the years went by, it wasn't like it happened overnight. And when Klaus appears, there was an episode in "The Originals" that was a continuation of the episode that ran on TVD, Stefan even appeared there in TO, so ended up having an explanation about the herb and everything else.
I love your videos btw, xo from Brazil!!!
I'm so glad they chose to keep Elena in mind and she is mentioned and that Damon wants to keep her "alive" as if she were with him. The love he has for Elena is not toxic like so many shoot bullshit but it is called "unconditional love" are rare loves not all capable of feeling otherwise a passionate like Damon, I am happy that he never gives up on her and neither sacrifices her their future the problem is in this whole story is that Damon must understand that he is good even without Elena who was good even before he met her and if humanity confuses his need to have her in his life to be happy with "only I'm good with her present "a self-esteem speech that was destroyed but Damon even if he makes us angry as always will know how to be forgiven ... why? because he's Damon Salvatore
@Danii H 🤣🤣🤣
Reyna is reborn from the ashes like a phoenix and her weapon is the phoenix stone.
You’ll see what happened with klaus/Stefan on the originals. This is why some viewers asked if you was watching them together, because 7x14 and an episode in the originals is a crossover with Stefan & klaus.
TVD did the time jump to catch the show up to the present time in real life. the first two seasons were 1 year, the third and fourth were one year etc. Because of that, the show ended up being three years behind so that's why they chose to jump 3 years.
They actually were 1 year ahead because of the 3 year time jump, as they were 2 years behind. After the time jump, it’s 2017 in season 7 and this season aired in 2016 :)
Love your reactions! Can’t wait for the originals!! xD
Same
Same
I’m basically counting down for the originals 🥳
I think you are gonna cry more at the originals than TVD idk why but I cried like 3 times a season during the originals
I'm at the mercy of memories, I remember when in season 5 Enzo on the other side was killing Luke, Stefan and Damon. I remember that Damon made Stefan and Luke come out of the fire putting them to safety and he was left with a piece of wood trying to convince the ghost Enzo in short save the two but who took credit in front of Luke, Stefan because later he tells Liv that he can't kill Stefan because he saved his life and Stefan neither dreamily told Luke that he actually saved my brother mio
so damon just left stefan to go desiccate beside elena ? someone that’s not going to wake up ? he just leaves his brother who is marked ? wtf
stefan took that mark FOR him he could atleast stay with him .. damon doesn’t know who he is without elena & that’s sad
and PLEASE don’t tell me that’s what love is because it’s not
and then he goes and leave bonnie … it makes no sense .. he’d rather desiccate next to elena when he can see her again one day when bonnie dies than to actually live his life with bonnie until he can see elena again … by the time he wakes up bonnie will be dead .. did he forget he’s a vampire ? he’ll still be there & he can see elena .. but there will be no bonnie
Thank you
I know right??
It's just another stupid attempt by the horrible writers to keep Elena relevant in the show by making Damon's whole existence revolve around her. They were threatened by the Bamon ship so all the development Damon had in him because of Bonnie (not relying on somebody to be good but being good for himself), they just had to throw away in the trash. Because let's be honest, Elena never made him a better person like Bonnie did, she just made him more obsessive, toxic & dependent than he already was. But we know the writers could never have Bonnie all the shine, could they?
@@erieluvie0905 finally someone with a brain .. yes he did “ right by her “ but it never meant shit because when they wasn’t together he was doing horrible things so he was only good in the moment
so how exactly did she make him better ?
these are REAL examples of making someone better :
stefan + elena = he fought to stay a GOOD person to be with elena & when he didn’t have her he still was that person .. even after she broke his heart many times
stefan + lexi = she showed him good and he hasn’t turned away from that since
i don’t have anymore in mind but those are just two examples of ACTUALLY changing somebody
he just became way too dependent & obsessive & so did she
@@Web497 💯💯💯
I know I am a year late, so nobody is gonna see this, but there is something that I have always been so confused about. Surely Rayna wanting every vampire dead, she would just go for the originals so then every other vampire dies. Seems like it would save her a lot of time😂
Right, either that or she just didn't know about the Sire line.. or maybe she was just bored lol
Even though I understand why Damon decided to do what he did, I still feel bad for Bonnie ☹️
@@Web497 NOBODY CARES BRO BRO
Another moment when Damon kills Tyler's uncle, in the final Stefan, Bonnie and Jeremy help him catch him but you can at the dirty work they all spun and left Damon alone so you can be criticized by everyone 😂.
The Eskimo buddy joke was hilarious alot of people n friends have been dipping in the same pots😂
Kat Graham's acting in the goodbye scene tho 🔥🔥💯💯
Stefan you were a hero when you sacrificed everything with Klaus and for this I adored you but you can you came back and you only thought about revenge by hurting and behaving badly with the people you chose to sacrifice, now dear Stefan you have not sacrificed but you helped your brother who accidentally found yourself sacrificing yourself to stay alive and not for Damon, blame him and make him feel a burden then don't do it doesn't make sense. Damon has done so much for you anyway but he has always been silent and never threw in your face what he did for you remained behind the scenes and when you were wrong dear Stefan he never criticized you he supported you yes he is united with you and he justified why you did a certain thing example many times in front of Elena, he always maintained your reputation as a good guy because he knows how much you care and he was a hitman for you because if he left it to you you would have lived 100 years of guilt and you let him do you never said no brother I don't want you to get your hands dirty for me. Oh yes dear Stefan so many things that if you appreciated it would be better your brother would not abandon you.
Bonnie 💔 not only does she not have Elena there with her but now she also doesn’t have Damon.
The writers tried so hard to convince the audience that Damon was a complete mess without Elena, but he blossomed in her absence. He had already changed because of Bonnie's influence on him ...not Elena's. Elena's influence was basically to enable him and then give him a tap on the hand before sex. That's it. He became a better man because of Bonnie. He had feelings for her that he was also running away from to the coffin.
That last scene between them was a lover's breakup scene, but they were forced to say the word "best friend" a million times to desperately try to defuse the sexual chemistry and love between them. I saw straight through it.
If he sleeps til Bonnie is gone, then the temptation to be with her is taken away from him as a choice.
But how they set up this scene, they digressed his mindset into..."Oh. I can't behave unless Elena is here to pat me on the head and give me sex treats to show I am worthy." Bs.
He had so much character development, as they tried character assassination of Stefan. When the show began, everyone liked and respected him. They made friends with him. Somewhere, the writers pulled all his friends and allies from him and gave them all to Damon.
And then there's the Sabotage of Bamon. It's so overstated that JP will never let Bamon happen...even though she dangled their relationship like a carrot once the ratings dropped and they needed the views back.
It is official. Caroline has had every male character at her heels, besides Jeremy. I kind of didn't mind her and Ric. I never thought her and Stefan should have been together. She seemed more like a Lexi 2.0. But they pushed for them and now we get another triangle. Well...square if you count the heretic.
How people can say they are the perfect pair and not think the same about Bamon, when they are practically the same mirrored scenario, minus the kids. Plus, the saving each other constantly. He made her more assertive and gave her influence to be more bold so that she could demand more of things she wanted, unapologetically. They were each other's touch stone.
#Bamon💞💜
I remembered a particular now distant season 3 but important ... Damon and Stefan had to kill one of the Bennets the mother or Bonnie, they play the coin game and Stefan was the one who had to kill one of the two but Damon did it because he knew what one more crime on conscience meant for Stefan. Stefan knows he has lost but he still leaves his brother to do it without objecting or trying to find another solution as Bonnie had told Damon "there is always a choice" no more than after not even trying to justify Damon in front of Bonnie or apologize to Bonnie and tell the truth how things went he spun and remained the good guy and Damon the bad as always taking all the hatred of everyone and nor did he expect thanks from Stefan that if it weren't for Stefan a to quit the speech he would have been silent and that is when Stefan neither speaks and tells him without making him feel the weight of his sacrifice to get his hands dirty for him. already and there are other moments of these.
Thank you for pointing that out cuz I feel like that’s a great example of a sacrifice that Damon made that a lot of people just overlook 👏
@@_.xoxo.mel._6588 This is Damon Salvatore ... Stefan's sacrifices make him the martyr the good the hero Damon's sacrifices make him the bad and the selfish Damon's sacrifices are behind the scenes Stefan's sacrifices are in public and everyone applauds and they say "woh what a saint" for Damon everyone goes blind and pretends not to see and yes as if that were not enough he is also humble he never takes the stage instead Stefan says and shouts "I did everything, I gave up everything for you "It's a pity dear Stefan that you never gave up on your reputation as a good boy for your brother because when there was a dirty job to do you spun and always pointed the finger and when your brother had something and was chosen and loved one only once in his life you tried to destroy this until you realized how asshole you were towards your brother.
@@_.xoxo.mel._6588 Agree so much!!
(25:29) "Thirteen seasons why"
Me: I understood that reference
Me too!
As much as I didn't like the three years in the future thing too, I did prefer the Defan scene knowing that he'd go and leave Stefan. For me knowing how it would go made the hearing Stefan's words even harder and more emotional. So I preferred that over the tension of will he won't he.
Congrats Jer! The 3 years thing is over
Welcome to the character we all know and hate “Ratty Matty”
The truth of this series is that all the characters when they needed a villain went and teamed up with Damon when they could but it was time for the accounts everyone was spinning and everyone was moralizing and hate took Damon and now it's still like this . Except that at the time Damon cared little about what people thought of him now this weighs him down because he wants to have a good reputation too because Elena is proud of him but he is forced to come back bad and this devastates him because he would like to take a position of either I am good or I am bad but he is not left alone.
I cried when I first saw the scene of Bonnie at the end
I don’t agree with what Damon’s does at all this episode, but it’s kind of understandable. He’s sort of always felt like he does everything wrong and messes everything up for everyone all the time. That’s honestly one of his biggest character flaws. He hates himself. He feels like he’s a burden on everyone and feels as though he always puts the people he cares about in danger. That’s definitely not true most of the time. He just has people who care about him and are willing to sacrifice for him. He is constantly berated by everyone too though whether is is justified or not, so it makes sense that he would just think that everyone is better off without him, especially after everything that’s been going wrong lately. That scene at the end with him and Bonnie though always breaks my heart. The way she says that she doesn’t want to live without her best friend while crying always gets me 😭. We are caught up with everyone’s positions before the time jump now, so that’s good.
Exactly you are right no one agrees with him even though I appreciate the choice to get away from his brother since he blames him for everything but instead of drying up and leaving Bonnie I would have taken her with me if she wanted and I would go a bit far from my brother's life. But everyone hammers him that it's his fault etc. psychologically he feels disgusting making him a depressed emotional self-harm
Went from Stefan walking out on Caroline to Damon walking out on Stefan :(
damon is so annoying sometimes like you can literally spend a life time with your two best friends AND THEN spend a life time with elena. especially leaving your brother when he’s literally being hunted to death🙄
but people don’t wanna hear this !
I think the whole point of why he did this wasn’t to be with Elena quicker, it was him not wanting to mess up and hurt everyone else, because that’s what everyone has been telling him lately that he ruins everything, so he doesn’t want to burden them
@@miadavies1575i honestly think it’s a little bit of both but .. he didn’t make the situation better because now they’re mad at him for leaving them
it’s super selfish
@@Web497 💯💯💯
@@miadavies1575 which is the truth. But they didn't want him to go away. They want him to do better. That was so selfish, childish, and immature. It's like you being called out because of your mistakes and you chose to leave instead of correcting them cause that takes so much effort.
you see more about the klaus and stefan in originals
I think Damon could’ve done that in a better way but I completely understand why he did it with almost everyone constantly criticizing and putting him down.
Agreed
Damon, I agree with him to take out of Stefan's life since from the start of the season it's "all Damon's fault" but as much as I agree with his choice I would also like to give him some beating and tell him to end with "me without Elena I'm not good, I'm the bad one without her "well Damon fuck this is not true chase some self-esteem and pride because you have always been good, don't let everyone make you think that you are the bad one just because for a while you have been like everyone else, Elena just reminded you of this and gave you your lost and forgotten humanity for years since you turned off humanity. So you want to take yourself out of the life of others but because you don't feel very well appreciated let the respectable and moralists live their lives in peace but not because without Elena you are the bad guy.
I personally didn't like that Damon pulled this. The whole "i'm not good without elena." thing I don't like either as he shouldn't have so much pressure on her to make him good. Plus Elena wanted him to live his life she wouldn't want him deciding to stay in a coffin for years and wait until she wakes up. It was just a bad thing to do to his two closest friends and his brother too..
I agree, honestly. It's my one big issue with Delena, because it always gives it this co-dependent, almost toxic quality. And I thought they had honestly gotten over it in season 5. Season 6 imo proved that Damon is perfectly capable of being good without her - in fact, I believe Bonnie made him see that. Which is why I found this a bit frustrating... but I guess it was their attempt to keep mentioning Elena?
@@4Tom4lepus4 literally! That's one of the reasons I never could get behind delena. Bonnie also dosent put up with his crap and is actually a better influence on him. I just saw him as kind of weak in this situation. You don't see anyone else in elena's life feeling they need to go in a box
I don’t like what Damon did either, I don’t think it was the right way to handle this, but from Damon’s point of view, the entire season Stefan has been doing nothing but getting angry at him for everything. Whether it is justified or not. Damon has always hated himself and never feels like he deserves anything. That one of his biggest flaws. So, everything that’s been going wrong lately he feels like it’s his fault, even if it isn’t. He’s also been hearing that it’s his fault constantly as well, which just makes him feel worse, so it’s sort of understandable that he would feel like everyone is just better off without him. I don’t think it’s even really about Elena. It’s about Damon himself thinking that he can’t do anything right, and it’s just compounded over the season as things have gotten worse. He’s just using Elena as scapegoat. Stefan didn’t really even try to understand why Damon would think that he’s better off in a box than staying with him.
@@baileym8303 Exactly!! I think people who don't try to see it from his POV have got to be doing it on purpose or something, because we literally see this throughout the season.
that bamon scene 😭
Bonnie stole all your words for a moment there. 🤣
Damon desiccated over time.. that was to show the passage of time.
@@Web497 What does that have to do with my comment? Also Stefan is my favourite...
So, you see, why that's sometimes confusing not to watch the Originals. Now you are blaming the writers for that time jump, which wasn't. It was a crossover with the Originals, so there is a episode missing. Stefan was in New Orleans with Klaus and others of that show. You will see that, when you watch it, I think that's season 3, episode 14.
You didn't get to see the story with Klaus because its an episode of the Originals.
I sort of get where Matt’s coming from, but like if the vampires leave Mystic Falls they’re going to go somewhere else and do the same thing, so why doesn’t Matt just move? There’s nothing keeping him in Mystic Falls. If a bunch of vampires are already there, it’s literally easier for Matt to just leave town and leave the vampires be. It’s also odd to me that he suddenly now has this big of problem with everything. I know these ideas have been building since season 6, but he’s been actively helping them with things for years because they’re his friends. He knows how they are. Just because things have gotten worse in the town, it’s not necessarily their fault. Stefan and Damon have actually been trying to help. It’s not like they actively try to hurt people. So, this is the point where I was kind of like just get over it or leave.
i felt so bad for bonnie :((( also i really loved ur commentary this video!!
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the only good thing abt damon is his looks tbh. stefan deserves better .
This is one of the weirdest comment sections I’ve seen under a tvd reaction. Some people are mad bc by their interpretation they took this episode as Damon leaving everyone for a girl. That’s not what’s happening. He’s been trying to do good yet people keep getting hurt and he’s getting blamed for it despite that not being his intention. He thinks leaving is doing everyone a favor. Also, not that this should even have to be said but Damon was obviously going to change through the seasons so I don’t get people who say ‘he was better before’. He was an antagonist before getting to know Elena and his character is not one dimensional. A complex character needs development he couldn’t just stay the same way he was in the beginning episodes of season 1. Without development what brother moments would we get or even seeing him have best friends. He needs to be shown caring about people and forming bonds with the girl he loves, his brother, and his friends. The whole point is that him changing has to do with him wanting to be a better person. Elena was his biggest influence for his change and was the catalyst for it all but there’s also multiple moments that affect him, such as his time with Rose and with Liz. Why are people calling him pathetic for meeting a girl who brought out his humanity and why are people acting like him changing isn’t for him when in the end only he can make that change happen if he wants to.
Thank you!! I think this might be the only logical comment I've seen under this reaction.
Jerbear be here simping for all the characters at this point and honestly same 😌
Caroline and Stefan are with Stefan but also with Caroline. Stefan is a lucky boy in love in short, all women fall in love with him and love him and they all love him more than he loves them but as much as his luck that they all fall in love with him it also seems that as girlfriends he is not lucky enough to having them for a long time not because he does much to fight to keep them close but in short I was sorry to see Caroline and Ric with the girls a happy family and he leave or the disappointment when he proposed to travel the world but she chose the girls and stay alongside Alaric. On the other hand Caroline is a mother and yet a great mother does not put a man above her children and this has my esteem that Stefan expected that he would leave the girls like this and give them up. I think it had to be a bit 'and a bit' around the world but also next to the daughters until the wound would not open again.
I’m gonna rant, things in this season honestly get me annoyed. “I saved your life time and time again, I chose you, I sacrificed everyone and everything for you and you’re just gonna turn your back on me” is lowkey manipulative towards Damon by being like ‘I did all this for you so you owe me this and shouldn’t leave me’. Maybe if he hadn’t been constantly making Damon feel like an annoyance and telling him he just made things worse then Damon wouldn’t have felt like he had to take himself out of the way.
Stefan has said multiple times he can’t be happy with Damon in his life and then Damon tries to go in order to make things ‘better’ for everyone and that’s an issue too. Also, it’s not like Damon hasn’t done similar things for him. Damon ‘died’ to get rid of the travelers and get his brother back. That led to him being in a prison world for 4 months without knowing if he would ever get back or see his friends/girlfriend but is he throwing that in Stefans face? Damon also ended up in the stone bc of Stefan not listening and he was hallucinating after getting out but did Damon hold that against him? Not only that, Damon got rid of all but one of Raynas lives and made sure the armory had her before saying that he was leaving so he wasn’t ‘turning his back’ on Stefan. This is why most of Stefan’s actions in the show come off as not being genuine to me. He does something and has to be praised for it by other characters or he constantly brings it up. I get it, Stefan just wants his brother with him but at the same time he doesn’t really act like it bc some of the things he says don’t make it seem that way. I wish Stefan would actually listen to what Damon is saying and realize why he feels this way.
Finally someone says how things are I do not know guys but I hate people who reproach you, I save you brother but all my life I make you weigh it, never heard Damon saying to Stefan I did for you I sacrificed myself etc. indeed he always hid what good he did for him I remember in season 4 when there was the flashback with Lexi maybe 1944 when it was Lexi who asked to get away from Stefan and he says "did you ever think I need to my little brother "formerly Lexi another who criticized Damon without a reason and kept his brothers apart, Stefan always knew that his brother was just gone and left instead Damon simply sacrifice his need to have his brother in his life and make up with him to make Stefan feel good and not come back a ripper again ... he said nothing and Stefan blamed him for you can be blown away by what he did for him and how things went ... as Damon told him .... You don't know anything about your brother's Stefan because you are more busy putting him in a bad light.
@@Web497 But even not it's the pure truth 😂
@@Web497 Nah disappear you and the hypocrite of Stefan an arrogant who is a hero and you can point the finger ... sin that he has a brother like Damon who is told about everything I would have sung a few things.
CamiA very well said💯
i know i am pretty late but thats not true at all stefan gave himself over to klaus and expected nothing in return he lost everything so that damon could live...he respected delena's relationship so much when katherine in elena's body trying to sleep with him he stopped her stefan rather lose the girl than his brother...stefan was extremely hurt here he once again sacrificed everything..he told damon that he couldnt stay with caroline due to the kids being in danger and he told him that the armory cant be trusted he had no one and just wanted damon to stay by his side so ofc he would be disappointed if his brother walks away when he needs him the most...when did stefan ever bring up leaving with klaus?when did stefan ever bring up resepcting delena's relationship and not sleeping with katherine/elena because delena broke up, stefan wasnt even bringing up the rayna matter before damon decided to leave him when he needs him the most
Klaus story continued in the originals
I agree with you 100% about how the show really effed up by showing the whole “3 years later” bull crap the first few episodes of this season.. the whole scene in this episode where Damon is telling Stefan he is going to desiccate and Stefan is practically begging him not to would’ve been 1,000 times more emotional had we not known whether Damon would walk out the door or not. Huge mistake on the writers part for sure. I hate any type of spoiler with a passion, which is one reason I hound you quite a bit about looking up the actors while watching a show because I’m so afraid you’ll accidentally spoil something about the show for yourself, lol.. 😉
You have to watch the originals to see what happened hen he went with Klaus
Bonnie deserved better
the first time I saw reina I was sure she was suppose to be another doppleganger, but they choose an other atress because Nina didn't want to play in the show anymore. so they just use an other actress and forget the idea of doppleganger for this caracter
If rayna wanted a world without vampires why didn’t she just go after the originals that’s what I never understood
Matt’s girl looks like the sheriff from Legacies…
This episode alone was when I stopped liking Matt, without these vampires he would have died in the river. I agree he was terribly written I loved him in the beginning
This is the most selfish thing Damon ever did in the whole show tbh. Time and time again Stefan chose Damon, and the one time Stefan asked him to choose his brother, Damon chose to abandon Stefan and wallow in his own self-pity. I liked Damon but I was so disgusted with him when he did this.
okay lol
I never understood was Enzos family vampires?
No his family was human. They started up the armory, which Alex (his relative) now runs
Nope they weren't only Enzo is a vampire turned by lily salvatore, but his family collects supernatural related things or supernatural beings and keeps it under observation
Stefan what do you want you slaughtered your brother by blaming him in everything from the middle of season 5 and until the end of season 6 you were lovely and for the first time you were defending your brother's reputation and made sure everyone saw the real Damon but you can sometimes you remember that you are too kind towards him and you change the way we see now I ruin my brother's self-esteem and if someone criticizes him I team up with them but if he disappears from your life you do everything offended .... also now entered the front door he had already started to criticize him "how you did not kill her, how you solved but you did not solve" you will also be a treasure who saves your brother as he does it with you but just ruin the image of your brother he was doing his best to save you so appreciating others would be more welcome.
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Ahhh we love our Freya!
This one was sad next one has sad moments too
Waiting on episode 19.... If you know, you KNOW. 😉
I feel like Damon would have dessicated faster if he drained himself of blood first.
Damon is just pathetic since season 5.......I told people his ass depends on Elena like a parasite and hers on him......they are toxic and i really hate how the writers handled that...............
Damon was a way better character when he was no with Elena....
FREYA
Kat Graham is just gorgeous.
Damon deserves to dessaicate lol just wait to 8x10 you’ll be happy again s8 is way better I promise, but at least he left writing letters instead of just leaving
Stefan pisses me off a little here with how self-righteous he is. First, the whole "I chose you, I sacrificed for you" BS... right, because it's not like Damon ever literally died and spent a few months in a prison world to bring you back from the Other Side, no, Stefan, you're the only one who's ever made sacrifices. And if you do make a sacrifice for someone, then whine because they refuse to live their lives the way you want them to, then your so-called sacrifice isn't worth shit.
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@@Web497 In no way did I justify Damon's choice. But there is a HUGE difference between Bonnie's "I'll never see you again, this hurts me" and Stefan's "how can you do this after everything I've sacrificed for you?" As if Damon has never made sacrifices himself. I didn't say anything about Damon making the wrong choice because enough characters on the show are saying it for me. But nobody on the show was commenting on what a self-righteous dick Stefan was being. If Stefan's response had been more like Bonnie's, saying how it hurt him and what if they never got to see each other again, then I'd be on Stefan's side. But the whole "you owe me" pile of crap Stefan actually did lay on just makes me want to bitch slap him.
@@Web497 Stefan also forced Damon to become a vampire against his will -- if either of them owes the other anything, it's not Damon who owes Stefan.
@@peggin169 She forced him to be a vampire and left him for 50 years and passes without humanity after only one attempt in 1977 with Lexi and as she failed she left her like this despite knowing that Damon has lost his reason as told by him in the woman's flashback. Enzo and when in 1994 he sought help and stimuli with his humanity, Stefan gives him rules to a vampire without humanity and since he has broken the rules instead of going with him to give him the stimuli and emotions to turn on his humanity, he closes him and he says "beautiful words" ... I wish you didn't exist ... already and they have the courage to say that Stefan is the best brother 😂
I agree. I understand why Stefan is upset, but Damon has never once asked Stefan to sacrifice anything for him. Actually he’s told him not to before but Stefan always does it anyway. That’s great, because he loves his brother, but when he does sacrifice things for Damon and bad things happen to him as a result, that’s not Damon’s fault. Stefan’s the one who made that choice. Stefan should know by now how Damon will react to certain things as well. If he continues to blame Damon for things that aren’t his fault, Damon is going to believe it, feel like a piece of shit and feel guilty, which will eventually make him think everyone’s better off without him. Then, every time Damon tries to leave Stefan doesn’t want him to and gets angry at him for that. Sometimes I’m like Stefan, make up your mind on what you want Damon to do! Because he gets angry at him either way.
‘gas station meth head’ got me dying
I thought the one person Damon would not walk away from would have been Stefan I understand why he's doing it but it is selfish in a way, as you're leaving your brother and friends to deal with things while you're gone. I really felt bad for Stefan like he never walked away from Damon but I think Damon was acting like a coward.
Yup. And all that just so they could keep Elena relevant to the story. It's stupid imo. 🙄
I love your reactions as a first time viewer, but I definitely feel like a lot of your opinions about what you wish would’ve happened in the writing is coming from a place where you don’t truly know where it’s leading to. S7 is maybe not the best example of this cuz it was not the strongest season but I think certain stuff seems pointless or unnecessary at first u til you see where they take it to, like where it leads to.. The time jump sucked and I hated it all up until they jumped forward towards the end and it made sense
I don’t think Jer realized this but he just quoted Steferine in a Stalerie scene
Which one are you talking about??
@@erieluvie0905 when they were trapped in the safe, and then now when his wound healed
@@sunshinesam6399 oh can you tell me exactly what if you don't mind? I seemed to have missed it.
@@erieluvie0905 no problem. It was in season 5 when Katherine put herself inside the safe with Stefan and she was comforting him. She put her hands on his face and was like “I’m here, I’m with you. We’re together.” Before Caroline opened it. So when Stefan healed here and Valerie was with him, Jer kind of said that quote
You should accept your friends if they are your friends in any way, so Matt doesn't consider them as friends
Jeeeeeeeeerr!! Finally, my favorite moment of the day! 🤗
And as much as I appreciate the fact that Damon left Stefan this season as he's in self-righteous, self-righteous mode and criticism blaming Damon for everything obviously I don't agree that I abandoned my Bonnie because she only to stay by his side and believe in him without criticizing him as she once did it broke my heart I thought that in the final he would come back to his would happen at Bonnie and go with her a little bit far from Mystic Falls and far from the brother.
This is why I don't like Damon- he has to rely on Elena to be a good brother. It makes him look weak.
Bonnie 😭😭😭😭
Bonnie was falling in love with Damon 💔
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JUST WHEN I WAS STARTING TO LIKE DAMON , he does something selfish. it’s just the fact that OvER A GIRL . It’s pathetic that we’re 7 season in and we still pulllin stunts like this 🙄🙄
It's just another stupid attempt by the writers to keep mentioning Elena in the show by making Damon fully dysfunctional without her. That's the reason I hate delena, they are too co dependent which is very toxic. But Damon had a little improvement in that department because of Bonnie, she made him be good for himself not just for Elena. But honestly with this episode, the writers took all that development and shoved it in the trash.
@@erieluvie0905 true , I wish bamon would’ve happened .
@@aianajones8702 I wish too that Bamon would've happened. I liked Damon with Bonnie and Stefan with anybody other than Elena or Katherine. But for once the writers just couldn't have Bonnie all the shine, could they? They were threatened by Bamon because it'd have been 100 times better & more powerful than stupid dullena.
Damon is the worst. Honestly the worst! Stefan and Bonnie always get hurt and they always get screwed over because of Damon or Elena! The reason i will never ship delena is because of the way they both are so selfish to the point that everyone around them get hurt. All Damon had to do was try a be a good person for himself and the people he so called loves other than Elena. He didn't even try. His obsession with Elena and her obsession with him is NOT healthy at all. It's beyond toxic! The worst part is Elena is not even dead.. but Bonnie and Alaric who is supposed to be his bestfriends will be dead when him and Elena finally wake up.
I feel so bad for Stefan. He should have let Damon go years a go. He would have had the life he deserves without Damon. I have to say i was pretty much over this show by this season but this episode made me finally stop watching. If they wanted Damon to finally be a good person, they should have written him differently. They could have used this season to work on himself and finally make him the person that everyone acts like he is(his fans).
Stefan and Bonnie should leave them all behind! 😂
So true! Seems like the writers just wanted to keep Elena relevant in the show by making Damon's entire existence revolve around her, because fans were getting ideas about Bamon. And for the first time it felt like Damon was having a real development by not relying on somebody to be good, only because of Bonnie which Elena could never do. She just made him more obsessive & dependent. But no, the writers just had to take all that development and shove it in the trash just so they could keep that stupid dullena ship sailing. Plus they never could just have Bonnie all the credit for once smh!
@@erieluvie0905 Right! I completely agree!
@@Web497 Yeah, it really is a fanfic for Julie Plec in the end. She is Elena and she get's to be with Damon. Her obsession with Ian was beyond creepy!
@@Web497 Yeah, i remember watching some videos on youtube of comic con and interviews. Julie and Caroline were both super weird. Specifically if Bamon was brought up. The way Bonnie was treated should tell you all you need to know about these people.
This the time I really didn’t agree with Damon- I get where he’s coming from but it was a mistake still
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