5. Being vs. Becoming: Plato's Theory of the Forms

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
  • Professor Thorsby gives an overview of Plato's theory of the forms.

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  • @seablue5
    @seablue5 8 лет назад +6

    Deserves more views. :-) I hope it gives you satisfaction that this has been just the thing I needed explained to move me forward.

  • @andonedave
    @andonedave 3 года назад

    Thanks so much for this. I have some formal study in Philosophy and I like to review material every once in awhile. You are an excellent teacher.

  • @socialistquickfix
    @socialistquickfix 12 дней назад

    What is the reading that is suggested alongside this?

  • @charlesgodwin2191
    @charlesgodwin2191 4 года назад

    Philosophy = creative mode of inquiry that generates insight - discernment of Reality.
    Metaphysics = study of the nature of Reality.
    Ontology = study of our experience of Reality.
    Epistemology = study of how we understand our experience of Reality.

  • @mrow9863
    @mrow9863 5 лет назад

    Great information sharing.

  • @Daniel2020Dj
    @Daniel2020Dj 6 лет назад

    Hello Sir,
    How can I find sixth(Aristotles) video of this series?

  • @jasonzheng976
    @jasonzheng976 4 года назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @yuannie-mm9zw
    @yuannie-mm9zw 6 месяцев назад

    how do u know what ur seeing is the real form/knowledge?

  • @tonyfike4330
    @tonyfike4330 Месяц назад +1

    Excellent discussion of difference between being and becoming. E.g. difference between form and a specific instance of that form. Also difference between an archetype of a rose (thought) and a specific existent of a rose in bloom. The mental image of a perfect rose in bloom never fades (being) but an actual rose is ephemeral, it grows. Blooms and eventually passes away. The truth of the rose is a thought an archetype that never fades as God created the form and every instance is only evidence of God’s creation of the form and the constant reaffirmation of the truth and beauty of a rose. Illustrates why educating a Democrat about anything is nearly impossible.

  • @raycosmic9019
    @raycosmic9019 Год назад

    Plato:
    Potential = Being
    Actual = Becoming (actualized).
    Axiom = self-evident Truth:
    I am That I am = I am That which is.
    I = which
    Am = Is
    That which is/That I am.
    Be still and silent, and know That I am, in contrast to what and who I am, and as that from which they arise, and that to which they return.
    Core Self = That I am.
    Essential Self = What I am.
    Social Self = Who I am.
    The abstract called Love can be expressed concretely as a hug, etc.
    According to the Tao or Great Law of Reversal, every arrival is by definition a new point of departure. That is why the only aim must be to become a Master Wayfarer, for the only destination is a new integral Way of Being.
    Continuum of Being/Life:
    Innermost: Spirit = That which is/ That I am - being aware of being aware - Presence.
    Midmost: Soul - Integrated Psyche (Heart, Mind, Will).
    Outermost: World Body - magic/metaphorical mirror in experience of one's inner state of Being, biofeedback loop.
    We are here to transform our temporal caterpillar psyche (lead), into an Eternal Butterfly Soul (Gold), by alchemically integrating our Heart (sulphur), Mind (mercury) and Will (salt).
    These 3 elements or functions are interchangeable:
    When the Heart aspires, the Mind inquires and the Will conspires (combines).
    'Salt of the earth' Will, employs 'quicksilver' Mind to get to the 'sulphuric' Heart of the 'first' matter of any 'prima materia' issue.
    When the masculine di-electric Mind plants an inspired seed vision into the aspiring womb of the feminine magnetic Heart, their resonant frequency alignment or union generates the androgynous electromagnetic current of the Will (child of promise), to take appropriate action toward fulfillment of the Heart's desire, in order to experience completion of Joy in form as co-equal collaborators with the all-inclusive Absolute.
    4 Noble Truths:
    1. Self-forgetting: Identification with the temporal is the one Source of all suffering.
    2. There is a way out of suffering.
    3. The way out is dis-identification with the temporal.
    Self-observation:
    Impartially observing the reactive self - negative reactive patterns - as inner objects of observation, generates inner distance, thereby diminishing the impact of the reactive pattern long enough to remember one's Self.
    Self-remembering:
    Being aware of being aware holds in reserve the energy that would usually, automatically go to the reactive pattern, for further development of essence.
    Without the energy stolen from essence, and having none if it's own, the reactive pattern collapses, it's influence neutralized and nullified.
    4. Objective Consciousness:
    Now free from identification with the temporal, awareness of the presence of the Eternal within the temporal spontaneously arises.
    It is identification with the temporal that blocks awareness of the presence of the Eternal within the temporal.
    Servant ego corrects itself to tie our shoes, etc. False ego steals them, then lies about it, projecting blame elsewhere, defaulting to self-justification when cornered.
    Life takes all the energy we have. False Ego is the only part of us (barnacle on a boat type of part of us), that we are better off without, to get the extra energy we need to keep learning and growing essence.
    It is false ego that is sacrificed, crucified by meditation for the sake of essence.
    The Chief Feature of False Ego is Self-importance, which takes two forms of expression:
    Pride: 'what a fine fellow am I compared to you'.
    Envy/self-pity: 'poor wonderful little me and all of it is someone else's fault'.
    Human = Humane.
    We transform our instinctive Will to receive, into the Will to bestow, by asking for what can be shared with others (Wisdom and Understanding).
    Beauty is as Beauty does.
    The primary interest of the Master Wayfarer is Objective art, art that changes your perspective as you experience it. To be is good, to know is good, but the crest of the Life wave is the invitation and opportunity offered by the Cosmos, to participate in the 'High Play' of creation as co-equal collaborators with the all-inclusive Absolute.
    A choice is laid before us: either to ejaculate and die a little more each time from loss of genetic mass, or injaculate and live on indefinitely.
    Ultimately, our most significant choice in Life is between unconscious compulsive reaction and conscious creative response.
    Seek first the Kingdom if Pleasantness (Heaven), and all else shall be added unto you.
    The Kingdom of Pleasantness is within you and all around you. There is a super-abundance of Pleasantness in every leaf, every blade if grass, every breath, every happy memory, etc. Collect them, enjoy and appreciate them.
    To one that has shall more be given.....
    Once the journey to the Absolute ends, the journey in, with, by, for and as the Absolute begins.
    United we stand.....
    Happy trails!
    Namaste'.

  • @SspaceB
    @SspaceB 3 года назад +1

    RIP tables

  • @AlbumReviewChannel
    @AlbumReviewChannel 7 лет назад +1

    Wait a second 30:16.

  • @gda295
    @gda295 8 лет назад +1

    I find your comments about the essence of human beings esp interesting ...but you should note that fallen angels mated with women to produce Anakim [giants] and aliens had to have been responsible for the pyramids , so please , less " speciecistic" referencing and more " broad mindedness"...

  • @agrid
    @agrid 9 лет назад

    But in that case, the pytharoas theorem doesn't seem to be eternal, as, if there is no human mind or any mind, there wont be any idea of the triangle, as the triangles that exist, are not the same as the essence of the triangle,
    The essence of something seems to be, the ilusion of that thing that exist, Which means that it is not real and dependant upon a mind to idealize as concept of the ilusion of that which exist.

    • @wildeirishpoet
      @wildeirishpoet 8 лет назад

      +Pablo Rozzotto keen observation

    • @SspaceB
      @SspaceB 3 года назад

      I guess the question is do forms come into being Bc we think of them, or did the form exist before anyone thought of it.

  • @akaitikimi5525
    @akaitikimi5525 6 лет назад

    Plato's ideas has no place in the modern world!!

    • @dbag57
      @dbag57 4 года назад

      How come?

    • @chriswang3448
      @chriswang3448 3 года назад

      Scientific explanations come and go, but philosophical discussions never cease