Louis CK on Phantom Thread
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- Louis CK reacts to Paul Thomas Anderson's 2017 masterpiece Phantom Thread.
Source: Joe & Raanan Talk Movies
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"the thing that goes with your mom is the realization you'll never get this kind of support again, and you don't have it coming any longer. It's now your job to offer it to other people."
god damn
Louis CK's level of insight is unparalleled. He has a way of expressing exactly what we all experience but aren't able to quite express. This interview is a good example of it.
@@rome8180it’s true- I could listen to him talk all day about any subject. He finds the most interesting angle on everything
@@rome8180 I think it's an accurate understanding of the film but Louis' general view of the world is completely wrong. As an artist myself, and i know other artist in significant galleries...it's really not always this grim. Look at the way David Hockney talks about his work, especially landscape painting. His "honeymoon" phase of painting has not wavered one bit. In my own work, it's the same. Been doing it for about 10 years...same level of playfulness and discovery. No bitterness at all. I'm not running around psychotically happy and the work is a struggle to keep things fresh....but that's it. That's the honeymoon phase...it's difficult, and I'm happy that it is difficult.
I love Louis's CK work. It's as raw as it insanely inaccurate. Thank God the world doesn't share his own hateful cynicism....funny guy though.
@@sooperd00p You just sent me on my n-th Hockney bender, and thank you for that.
@@sooperd00p your art will never touch a soul but we’re happy you’re happy
The level of profound perspective Louis has for film -from its production to its subtext - is astounding. I could listen to Louis talk about film all day.
I mean, he DID direct Pootie Tang 😂
Listen to his bit about the little girl from Schindler's List.
@@ishotmyboss "BYE JEWS!!!" 🤣
I’d love to hear him talk to Tarantino about film
You should check out his perspective of American Beauty
I always interpreted it as the portrait of a toxic, codependent relationship, but Louis' take of "that's how every relationship is to an extent" really made me see it in a different light. I wish we had more of his takes on films.
"Toxic co-dependent relationship" is sort of a calling card of late 20th century/21st century quantification, or to crudely put it "science-ing", of human relationships. Everyone seems to do it these days... for whatever they don't like about a partner or relationship, they have a clinical-sounding label to put on it, proving how they are the ones being put upon. These are terms used in therapy/psychology of course, and if you know anything about that sort of thing, you know this: if you're in the situation, you cannot accurately diagnose it. Even average joes these days have access to this idea and vocabulary, because of the boom in widespread access to information. But it's most often unskillfully used as a crude cudgel by people for whom a little bit of information is probably quite dangerous.
Amazing take. To add one point: he is unable to relax when he can work, so she makes him incapable of work from time to time so he can take a break. She was perceptive enough to understand what his productive obsession was costing him: for instance he never laughs when he's focused, but does when he's sick in the bathroom. She was also bold enough to actually administer the "medicine," and he loves her for the insane lengths she's willing to go to for him. Most people would consider him unhelpable, but she didn't give up.
They really are "madly" in love.
Wtf?
Louis is a legit great movie critic. It's like your lifelong buddy has genuinely insightful things to say about movies 😊
Makes me happy to learn what an appreciation Louis has for cinema
Watch the O and A episode when he reviews a amateurs movie in real time with the director in studio. It doesn’t disappoint.
I’ve watched this film 5 times…it took me by complete surprise at how masterful a piece of art it is
I watch it regularly. It’s so perfect
nice, i hadn't heard of this and i haven't seen a decent film for ages. now i have something to do tonight
Yep.. It's such a joy to watch.
I was an extra during the new years celebration scene - I had been given the most ridiculous costume and was paid extra to kiss another extra after the countdown; we were positioned on the other side of the pillar that he main character leans against when he looks down into the party and, because the camera was pointed at us, I was sure I’d be in the film.
But the way it was actually shot meant that me and the girl who kissed are completely removed from the film.
Got to kiss a beautiful girl about 20 times in a row and I got paid for it - and nobody else will ever really know xD
It was a magical day in so many ways and to find out that I was cut from the film anyway just adds to the mystique 🤣
That is wonderful! You're the real phantom thread XD
@@mongolianqwerty123 🤣 that’s brilliant 🤣🕺🧖♂️🧛🙇♂️😅 maybe one day she’ll see this comment and we could watch the film together? 😂🤔🤦♂️🤣
It's kinda awesome to think of all these little moments on-set that never make it onto the screen.
I didn't not expect this from Louis CK. I knew there was a reason I like Phantom Thread but he said it very nicely. I always have a hard time explaining the movie.
I love this film for many reasons; not the least of which is Johnny Greenwood's epic score
Holy shit he went deep with this one
The thing he said about the honeymoon period and the loneliness that follows is so spot on.
dont forget yall louie is a helluva director too. man speaks with his whole heart
Woody Allen is an incredible director. So is Roman Polanski.
We don't give kudos to predators.
@@emmavinkwhy not? One has nothing to do with the other. Art is art and personal responsibility for one’s actions is something else entirely.
i dont remember louie preying on underage girls. atleast get the facts straight. he did weird shit in front of women with their consent. either way wont stop me from talking about their art, just like u are now@@emmavink
I wanna see that film he wrote and directed, it's on my list. I hope he directs more films, as he is earnestly and blatantly passionate, with good taste and some quality insights
i've always enjoyed all the different nuances of LOUIS CK'S explosive talent, but the insights he shares about the films he loves, are like some new punch, a left uppercut...and it's not just because we admire the same films, DUDE you're a layman's film critic, as well...hats off to you
Another thing that I think is interesting is that both Phantom Thread and There Will Be Blood have Daniel Day-Lewis, a titan of an actor at the height of his powers, pitted against younger, less experienced actors. So to watch these young actors really "show up" and stand their ground with Mr. Day-Lewis is great. I can only imagine that if you were a young actor paired against him in a movie like this, you would probably be a changed person from that point forward.
And Paul Dano got to do two films with him!
I wish Louis would do an hour special that’s not comedy, but just opining and and philosophizing about the world.
Hell yeah. He can call it Nanette.
@@TheRealTurkFebruary thanks. I googled that. I would have been a much happier human without knowing about that…
I’m pretty sure Louis could do it and make it fascinating
I can honestly listen to Louis talk about films (especially PTA's films) for hours.. I swear. He should have a cinema podcast where that's all he talks about.
Also at the end I think there should be a happy ending ;)
F□cling Louis CK!?!
He's a straight up film critic genius.
God damn amazing.
It is very insightful, but when he starts to do his Freudian generalizations it's wildly inaccurate. I have a lot of skepticism when someone starts a sentence with "When an (insert profession)..." It's always wrong.
funny guy though.
Maybe you're wrong as well, well definitely would be since he has experimenting directing, acting, writing, and decades of movie watching experience we can all have an opinion bud, if it's not our views does not make it wrong in any manner @@sooperd00p
I've been saying it since I saw "Phantom Thread" for the first time - and many times since - it's Anderson's best film.
It is very good. "There Will Be Blood" is better categorically in almost every way (if you exclude Costume and Production design in very literal terms).
@@Harkness78Disagree. Phantom thread and the Master top There Will Be Blood for me
And it has Lesley Manville who is one of the most underrated actors working.
Few people talk about how outstanding Lesley Manville's performance was.
I’ve actually never heard Louis speak ‘real’ in non-bit…. Cool to hear. He’s got a lot of great points, very eloquently stated! Very insightful
he does that often in his podcast appearances, you have a treasure of such small but insightful instances to uncover.
Well said. Great movie. Love PTA so much
That ending is just…GODDAMN. 😳
PTA is such a goddamn genius.
Louis deconstruction of the mother aspect of Phantom Thread brought me to tears .... im terrified of losing my mum. What a wonderful breakdown.
Eh, My Mom is smart and wonderful and super supportive (her age 71), I am not terrified of losing her. Everyone has to go at some point, it will be my honor to outlive her, and try to upkeep her influence in the world by being a positive, helpful, successful person after her death.
This explanation made me enjoy the movie more.
This channel is great and this vid was top. Louis gets it. Thank you for posting
Phantom Thread is one of those movies that will cause an argument. If you're a film fan, you're guaranteed a strong reaction. Anyone who sees it may have a different interpretation of their relationship, some angrier or milder than others.
I got 40 minutes in and gave up on it but listening to other perspectives can make you reinterpret it. I'll give it another go.
@@MartinT5600if you can, watch it in the theatre. The audience will be fans of the film, and believe me when I tell you, it will be like watching a comedy. The film is fucking hilarious.
@@MartinT5600It's worth it, challenging.
@@MartinT5600I watched the entire thing but couldn't focus, I'm a huge film fan. A year later and I can't remember anything about the plot. I found it an absolute chore to get through.
When I first saw Phanton Thread, I thought the ending was disingenuous, because Reynolds Woodcock didn't display, at any point in his life, an interest in things that distracted him from his work (as being poisoned would). Then, I realized that he still wasn't interested in distractions in the end. He finally acknowledged that his success was, in part, fueled by the anger, frustration, and commitment to focus that resulted from being being distracted.
In the beginning of the film, Woodcock is shown to cycle through relationships with women, believing they, as distractions, hindered his potential. Alma was special in that she made him acknowledge that to produce his best work, he must be nudged off course from time to time. I don't think he loved Alma in the end, but he did appreciate how she helped him.
If anything, Woodcock is even more of a madman than Daniel Plainview from There Will Be Blood.
The mushrooms might have changed him a little perhaps
Louis should talk to Tarantino about film on a podcast
This is a fantastic analysis of this film. It helped me gain a new appreciation for it overall. When I meet people who love PTA, that love is usually deeply seeded in the obsession of one or two of his movies. They then seek that same feeling in his other movies, almost like it’s a drug. You could argue that super fans of other directors do this as well. But with PTA, it just feels different. There’s something very aggressive and defensive in the way they talk about his work. For me, his two best movies are Boogie Nights and The Master. But I accept that his other films don’t have the same effect on me. I don’t know, maybe I’m just rambling in a text format. Great video either way.
The Master is goddamn amazing
People forget about Magnolia. Magnolia is a fucking great movie I don’t give a shit what complaints about frogs you have, it’s fucking great.
@@frankiegumdrops8532 You knew where I was going with it! Damn, I gotta respect you for that. But yeah, frogs…that was…that happened.
@@100and1percentCotton I’m a crazy PTA fan. I’ve had that conversation before. 😉
I'm a huge PTA fan and I agree with your point about his fans, I also loved Inherent Vice which so many of his fans hated lol. I honestly love all his films for different reasons, I've probably seen Punch-Drunk Love the most times even though it's not my favorite of his. The Master and Phantom Thread mean the most to me personally and mean different things to me each time I rewatch it.
Wow pretty fantastic analysis, Louis should have a movie review show!
I just adore Phantom Thread and Greenwood's soundtrack for this movie. I love all of Greenwood's soundtracks, so I was thrilled to read that Paul Thomas Anderson is doing a new film with Greenwood. Day-Lewis is just incredible in everything.
Some wonderful insights about life, there.
He speaks poetically. You can listen to him talk about things he loves, and understand why his stand up is so rich in observation and concept
The amount of insight Louis CK has is astounding to me. He notices things that cause me to pause and want to rewatch these movies.
agreed PTA is a master. This film expresses a real dynamic that is more common and less seen than most stories ever dare approach. Bravo and thumbs up Louis.
Fun Fact: What you just listened to from Louis CK was all one long continuous sentence. 🤣 Nice train of thought by LCK there!
No commas!
You introduced the world to dasha taran so uh...we trust you
We need a Louis CK movie review show!!!
This was a life lesson with such a profound message that I didn’t expect
dang: one of my favorite comedians talking about one of my favorite movies!
Phantom thread was one of my Least favorite of PTAs films. It was still a beautiful acted and shot film.
Beautiful movie
Vicky Krieps should be a huge star by now. She is so good in this film.
Ha, that tent story is pretty great
No wonder Louis CK made one of the best episodes of a TV series: the one when he spends a evening together with Parker Posey.
This was insightful
damn i didnt know he could be this articulate about art
Raanan had some good counterpoints
Spot on!
Too bad people don't realise how wonderful this picture is.
I never thought she was in the “shade” of the relationship. She dipped for a beat, but it really is Alma’s story when you think about it. She became so powerful where she could have slunk away, which obviously happened in the first part of the movie with his other love interest at breakfast- Alma only grows throughout the whole film
Its like Jung’s cicumambulation. Death and rebirth, going in circles inwardly, honing in on yourself.
That is what I always got from this movie: she kills his egotism, and that allows for love to grow. Good tô know Mr. CK has the same understanding, PTA is maybe the best diretor working today, or at least the most original
Wonder if Killers of the Flower Moon raises Louis's esteem of present-day Scorsese's work.
Stinker
@@day245 LOL, ok doc
Irishman and Silence are amazing too. People sleep on Marty somehow still when it isn't a crime film.
Jesus. His commentary on marriage and what happens when your mother dies seems obvious but the way he phrased those ideas in the context of the film was insightful and eyeopening. Such a niche. Licorice Pizza was an enjoyable letdown but it’s to measure expectation with PTA when he’s made Boogie Nights and There Will Be Blood.
Phantom Thread was one movie that PTA deserved to get all the Oscars and he was snuffed...
Wow, what an in depth take. This movie is one of my all time favorites, I even have the soundtrack on my playlist.
Huh, I wasn't able to get into it personally, but I remember feeling that way about the master the first time I saw it. Now it's just below there will be blood for me, if not even. PTA films grow on you, I'll definitely give Phantom Thread another shot
@oobieo It's that Vicki Kriebs chick, my God she's mesmerizing. I saw her a few weeks back in that Viggo Mortensen western, again, she knocked me out.
@@nigelsmart7187 ahh. Yeah I've been meaning to check that one out too. Cheers!
Now I want to make a video on how great movie critic Louis C K is!
Great hearing Louis talking like this. Considering the folk he's talking with referred to a subtitled film as "fuck that reading shit" though, you've got to think, they're probably the wrong audience for these deeper discussions.
Great take. Saw it in the theater and for whatever reason it just didn't register with me. Kind of gave it a Mehhhh. I ended up giving it another shot a year later at home alone and it completely buckled me. Funny how life works. PTA baby.
This is the most depressing description of life I've ever heard described.
The Wolf of Wall Street, Silence, The Irishman, Killers of the Flower Moon...if that's Scorcese losing his 'edge' at 70-80 years old, a lot of filmmakers would...errr...kill...for that edge.
@aeoneditingserviceWho are your favourite directors, if you don't mind me asking?
Irishman was a party-film, KOTFM was a great closing statement, outdid himself imo.
I get what he means. I enjoyed all those films (especially KOTFM) but it's always gonna be hard to beat Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, and Goodfellas.
@@tomisaacson2762that’s understandable but remember Anderson is 53 when Scorsese was in his late 40s and mid 50s he gave us goodfellas, age of innocence, cape fear and casino. Who knows what Anderson will be doing when he’s in his 80s.
Ck misses the point that a majority of famous directors made bland films with little to no exuberance that came of the end product as the directors got up in age
With films like wolf of Wall Street and silence and killers of the flower moon there’s a youthful exuberance there. Those films look like films pT Anderson could have directed when he was in his 20s
Only reason I don’t mention Irishman is because although it’s swell made film it’s the choice of actors that hamper what could have been a classic.
“She’s sleeping.”
“…………IN THE DRESS???”
“Phantom Thread” is so beautifully autistic; it is cloth trying to explain its indelibility through the allegory of humans, and the muse has a muse whose muse she is as he is hers.
Louis is right. TWBB, TM and PT are a triptych. Hamartia, agnarosis, katharsis.
Thanks
The car scene is straight out of Clockwork Orange !!!
PTA is my favorite director!
Marty is the master. But PTA is the best of the current gen.
PTA is the 🐐
marty is good but PTA is reaching kubrick's level
@@tango31313 Yeah, I think Kubrick is the best, but PTA is my favorite. I know everyone loves Killers of the Flower Moon, but it occurred to me that if PTA had written it, Molly would probably be a more interesting character.
agree, i wanted to like the movie but it was just very surface level obvious drama. boring score. im not sure why everyone is loving it so much. @@GoodnightJonboi
@@GoodnightJonboiTo be fair to Marty, he stuck close to the real Molly out of respect. But I get your point.
Great ending
Great movie
Damn he loves this movie! 😂
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Where do all these clips of him talking about pta come from?
Agreed.
I had no idea Louis CK was this profound.
This interview in its entirity (it is even longer) is from a podcast called "joe and raanan talk movies"
Louis ck just needs a channel where he talks about and reviews movies lol
Dang!
Great another vid to watch when my wife isn’t around
This is what goooooood film school sounds like
Phantom Thread is the best film of the 2010’s.
The social network
@@FastEddie86 I don’t hold it in high esteem, and Social Network wouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath as some of the movies made in the past 13 years, not when you have filmmakers like Kiarostami, Hou, Tsai, Almodovar still making movies in the 2010’s, among so many other young great filmmakers coming to the fore.
Get out exists
@@luqman7970 And it’s nothing special.
I prefer The Master.
❤
No Country for Old Men is indeed a whole different subject matter, and so is Silence of the Lambs - neither of which are by Paul Thomas Anderson movies.
I listened to this whole podcast a long time ago, so I can't remember if No Country for Old Men had come up previously and this was referring back to it. Anyway, PTA is my favorite director, but I think No Country for Old Men beats out There Will Be Blood as the best film from 2007.
@@williambartholmey5946eesh it is a tough call, but I disagree. There’s nothing like TWBB, it’s such a unique statement of a film. Love No Country though as well, so it doesn’t really matter.
He didn't say they were
Is this old?
Because both PTA and Marty have put out new films
I disagree with Louis about Scorsese. He must not have seen Silence because that film was incredibly thoughtful, personal, and honest.
Louis won’t let it become a conversation
this shot is a clockwork orange reference.... real country dark
PTA is the best. The best
Paul tho as Anderson was at his peak with there will be blood and the master.
INT. Hospital room Night.
LOUIS CK and his MOTHER sit in a dimly lit hospital room. Rain patters against the window as thunder rumbles in the distance.
Louis: “Mom, I don’t want you to die.”
Louis Mother: “This is the way it’s supposed to be. I got to be around for long enough. We were lucky.”
Me: 😢😢😢😢
DDL is a disgustingly good actor...
Great channel
I've put off this film for far too long.
No Country for Old Men is not a Paul Thomas Anderson movie.
It’s coen brothers. I mix that up too because it came out at the same time as There will be blood and they are both in Texas
He should makw a channel of moview review.
Louis has a genius level of emotional intelligence.
But can't understand that women don't want to watch him masturbate?
@@classicsmajor9699 then maybe they should have been adults and said so.
@@stinghouseproductions8502 because it could have ruined their lives. There was a massive power imbalance in these situations.
@@classicsmajor9699 No it wouldn't have. What was he going to do? Spend his free time calling producers saying, "they wouldn't want me to masturbate over the phone!" You know how much work that would take? When I was 12 some creep tried to get me to watch him jerk off. It was some trucker and I told him to fuck off. Somehow a 12 year old me had more sense then adult women.
@@classicsmajor9699 you only have to listen to 5 mins of Louis' comedy to know that self-degradation is his thing, not degrading other people. If you consent to a sexual encounter you have to take responsibility for regretting it later. I doubt anyone would ever have sex ever again if you had to pop out a legal disclaimer before "doing the deed"
Did he confuse No Country for Old Men as a PT Anderson film?
No, I think he just pointed out how different they are, but are both great filmsbtalking about difficult men..in a strain of thought
whatever phantom thread had to offer was completely lost on me. I left the theater wondering wtf that was all about.
I don’t think there’s a little bit of him in his characters I think there’s a little bit of his characters in him. I’ve heard he takes them on board and becomes them.
I thought it was all an analogy of daniel day lewis' career, i saw it in the cinema and was about to leave until i started noticing similarities to the obssesive tailor and the obsessive actor.
Actually PTA is one of the very best of his generation but Scorsese is one of the 4 Mount Rushmore directors and at 81, his movies are still meaningful even in 2023.
PTA’s movies sometime have issues with story telling and editing.
PT MF'ing A