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Can someone in comments use their superior knowledge of 3d rendering and use the linked 3d model of the site, and use a program like sketch fab to cut and slice, turn and flip the boulders and wrecked areas and perhaps maybe tetris it back together sort of it dont need to be perfect just create a better overall picture, come on smarter people then me callin on my fellow Archinerds
Several methods of fabrication of the polygonal masonry using clay/gypsum replicas, a topography translator, reduced clay models of the stone blocks, and a 3D-pantograph are described in the article “Fabrication methods of the polygonal masonry of large tightly fitted stone blocks with curved surface interfaces in megalithic structures of Peru” (DOI: 10.20944/preprints202108.0087.v5). I do not provide a direct link, because RUclips does not allow a comment with this link. Search by the article title.
For those who are interested in the topic of polygonal masonry. The book “Peruvian polygonal masonry: how, who, when and what for” (114 pp., Litres, Moscow, 2024) has been published. The book is freely available at Litres (to download, a registration is only required).
That last bit where you showed the condor gave me chills. I really appreciate this video for its thoroughness. With regards to Huacas, most carved boulders are huacas, but not all huacas are carved stones, they also include stone idols (not thought to exist anymore), as well as natural features like rivers, mountains, or otherwise sacred spots. Every Inca source unequivocally states that the Huacas are very old, from well before the time of the Inca, basically lost to history, sometimes related to legends of Wiracocha turning people to stone, so it's possible that they were carved in recent times, but honestly I find it unlikely given the oral history. Also, there's no tunnel from Chincana Grande (or Piedra Cansada) to Qocha Chincana. But Chincana is a word that refers to the tunnels, and apparently means "place where one gets lost", so Qocha Chincana is "lake of tunnels". The tunnel that connects to the lake (at least the accessible one) goes a short distance to the east where it emerges among some very odd rock formations.
It’s refreshing. Honestly if I read textbooks as a kid and they had said “we think this is what happened, but we really have no idea and it’s mostly just mysterious” I would have been way more interested in history.
Excellent synthesis, Matt. You might add that if you channel in order to control the water, you probably would have no difficulty controlling the populace below: any sign of trouble and "the angry gods" could divert the flow with a sluice, perhaps collecting water in the great basin, and dry up the waterfall into the city. That would be both theatrically and practically quite effective, I can imagine.
This is such a fantastic piece of work. I love how scientific you are about approaching your videos. I feel like some of these videos will be cited scientifically in the future in the same way you cite older papers from days gone by. Keep going this is amazing work
you've gone into some detail in this one Matt , i like the outlines of the birds idea and your connection with the water channels is good too . can't wait for more info now thanks ..
This is a fantastic video! I haven't heard anything about this site that makes so much sense, and with your explanations of what may have been there, I can't unsee it. It's no longer a strange place with strange architecture, but looks like a a very useful and beautiful site. No wonder it was so important. It must have been very impressive in it's day.
Exactly my thinking! Also it seems absurd that the pros don’t know this but why keep up the mystery??? Archeologists should be renamed to Liars For Tourism! ❤️ You are amazing Matt (Ancient Architects)!!
As a materials scientist with a specialty in electrochemistry, my theory about the Giza pyramids involves connecting their construction with piezo-electric minerals also used by other pyramid cultures around the globe. First, I believe there was a global civilization in the past (prior to the 9500BC comet strike which was probably the worst of that 'cycle' of comet strikes) that was multi-cultural but sharing myths and philosophies, engineering and technology, and religion. From the global alignment of the pyramids in Egypt, South America and China, I believe intercontinental communication was possible by synchronously 'tuning' the piezo-electric pyramids like a radio network (remember crystal radios of the early 1900s?). I risk going further with this by hypothesizing that the huge, non-tomb, interior cavities at Giza act like resonant amplifiers of human brain waves (!!!) or some EM instrument that are transmitted like radio waves and picked up and amplified by the other piezo-electric caverns across the globe. And, the complement 'instrument' for that radio network were human 'sensitives' (the distant past, pre-cursors of the young men and women, eg Vestal Virgins?) whose 'special' talents were hereditary such that lineages were maintained just for that purpose. Also, running water is a conductor/amplifier aid which could explain why at Giza the pyramids were constructed on top of underground rivers. In anycase, personally i see links between the quartz, schist, mica and granite materials and pyramidal shapes at Giza, South Americ, China Siberia, Bosnia (!), Panang ...! It all adds up to electromagnetic technology.
I've had the thought for a while now that putting a large mass on top of a piezoelectric column like granite would produce a measurable voltage across the column due to natural vibrations in the earths crust. You are the first person to mention something similar that I've ever seen. Kudos to you good sir.
Love your videos bro. They are well researched and informative. I just had to point it out but, at 10:53 the main rock that is shown in the picture you used looked like a face that been badly eroded by water. I know this might just be paradolia but I had to point it out. Keep up the good work👍🏾👌🏾
I've been thinking a lot about how water in general seems to have been massively sacred to ancient Southern and Central American peoples and I have to say I'm highly encouraged by this line of thinking about water rituals. I think we are just starting to scratch the surface on just how differently the ancients of the region looked at the natural world, and how highly they valued juxtaposition of earth and sky and water and animal symbology that they found in nature. As for water rituals, and what you described as a possible "flooding" ritual overseen by the ruler at Sacsayhuaman reminded me of a theory I had heard about the Teotihuacan complex and made me wonder if such a ritual might serve more than one purpose or meaning. Also a Sun and Moon temple site, I heard a theory that the entire Teotihuacan complex may have been built with the intention of flooding as there seems to be evidence of water around the bases of many of the structures there. I know its two separate cultures but it made me wonder if such a ritual, like their art and the Mayan writing system, might also too have been designed to have layers of meaning and purpose. For example I think the Teotihuacan theory mentioned the builders may have been using such a large area of controlled water flooding as a sort of massive stellar observatory using the still reflection in the water to view the night sky. The Earth Sky Water connection seemed to be aligned with this idea as well as the possibility that such a ritual may have even been a tribute to the ancestors destroyed by the flood as the Egyptians also incorporated ritual tributes to Zepteppi, and even the Moi of Easter Island and the Enclosures of Gobekli Teppe seem to have been connected to rituals honoring the past and the memory of the world and ancestors lost.
I really like your detailed work and just started watching your videos about a month ago. What you have outlined here is worthy of respect and hopefully leads to even more studies of this area. After many years of interest and some research in ancient architecture and ancient obscured human history, I consider that the polygonal walls could have been made by using a type of sandbag or other soft fabric container that would bulge slightly when filled with some kind of geopolymer. Filled, stacked and poured, one layer at a time, given a little time to harden before stacking the next layer, they would conform together snugly, and after petrification over time and natural processes, what remains are the stone blocks we see today. What baffles me most is how it looks like there are certain animals represented in some areas of the walls. Another interesting idea I've heard presented before is frequency manipulation, total sci fi sounding but perhaps the molecular structure can be temporarily altered under certain wavelengths and then as the rocks were stacked, their edges were manipulated to sort of meld together. Thats a very wild idea but fun to hypothesize on. As for the out-of-place lighter chunks of rocks that appear to have carved sections of stairways and straight edges etc, I am thinking they are actually very ancient remnants of some other petrified ruins. Most remnants of extremely ancient times all over the world appear as just chunks of stones after all these years but in some rare cases we see bits and pieces of those monumental structures sticking out as a petrified stone imprint. In some cases you can even see that on the stone "carvings" are things that wouldn't need to be carved into stone that would only serve a purpose structurally. A rock doesn't need to have things such as crossbeams and bolts and rivets carved into them. We see random straight edges, perfectly cut squares and holes, straight edges that look like they would continue but instead suddenly end so precisely as if snapped off cleanly by an unfathomable force. These sections are considered to be rock-carved holes and walls in the sides of cliffs and stones in mainstream archaeology and they give their reasons, but the randomness of how it is all laid out leads me to believe its really very old pieces of structures that have seen many disasters over a long period of time, possibly petrified eons ago & eventually smashed to bits post-petrification, scattering pieces all over, like a rose dipped in liquid nitrogen and smashed into clean fragments. Might sound a bit weird but so does ancient primitive civilizations hand chiseling perfectly cut edges into some rocks laying around. This looks like (to me) old remains of a mega sized structure beneath the remaining land. You can see more outlines and whats left of other structural components under the grass and dirt and chunks of stone and ruins that go down, as well as walls that are partially buried. It could go down far. More recent civilization used its existing inner structure to their advantage with their waterway tunnels and the springs may well have been the water system of the previous mega structure that this ruin sits on top of! There is more to be unearthed. Thanks for reading my ramble
Just when an AA therapy session is needed, there it is in its splendor, perfectly on time, and perfectly perfect. Thank you Matt for takin my brain away from me for 24 min.......48 min im watchin this twice.
All these things you cover really shows that we have very little idea about the last 100 thousand years of human life and the things we have done. Keep up the quality work
I appreciate your deskchair scholarship. We need more people examining such ancient sites in order to fully understand what the ancients were doing. The only part of your examination I openly object to is "seeing" images of the birds on the landscape from a higher view, mostly because the terrain does not look now like it looked then, but also because the images of such birds would have been different for the ancients than it is for us. Keep critically analyzing these ancient works!
Yes! still watching, just reserving future post to ask, wow, i think that area is a big manual valve to direct the water in different ways, to fill the pool, or go down the hill, etc. great video Matt!
The site is so large, when I visited, was unable to see it all. Incas, etc we’re big on water and artesian springs. Near by, at about 15,000 ft is Baños del Inca, and of course above Machu Picchu, with irrigation/plumbing channels into the sites. Down River from Machu Picchu are hot thermal spring baths that I had visited too. Visited Caral as well. Irrigation canals line the Supe and other valleys that are still used today. Amazing culture, but disappearing Andean Glaciers aren’t replenishing these springs.
Thank YOU - This is a helpful information for me and my personal History research !!! I look to many of your videos and know the whole complex and the Storys about that. But again (i think it´s the 5th time), you have show me some really important things!!! The water management is some really important knowledge for our ancestors and.. ..our understanding for us and what they did long before us in this region int this hills. You have show again, that looking from above is much more important that we know. +++ One Point that you have given me Know +++ 4 Points you have give me in the last Years !!!!!!!! - waterresistand walls and the bigger looking view above this place with eagle eyes. - polagynal walls around the world and that they are often the oldest (foundation). - Special stonework marks, in global cultures that are official have no conact. - simularitys in so much Archeological sites and Mystical Storys and bounds. - and so on, pl do your thing and find more of this, i love History research! Thank you for you work! Any times nice to see it.. Greetings from Germany
Wow! I think you’re on the right track, Good research 😀 What outstanding hydrological abilities they had. They seem to have built everything with multi purpose in mind. But not such a stretch to the imagination when you add their beliefs of venerating the elements of the planet with water being the most important. Today we seem to build things for functionality only. Back then they created beautiful structures that worked functionally but with the added aspects of giving thanks and appreciation to the planet 👍💗👍
It reminds me of Ancient Egypt, in terms of the complex overlap of asserting political power over the populace, managing essential resources, and integrating their religious beliefs into all of that?
Thanks for your work on this mystery. I wanted to share a thought regarding the standard masonry that you point out in Sacsayhuaman. These crudely built small-stone wall seem to be a very common recent/modern practice of reconstruction/clean-up/Tourist-accommodation Not only in Peru but all ancient sites that attract tourists. I think I am hearing you say in your videos that you believe them to be something that is also ancient, but if you look at the old original Black and white photos that document of these sites you will not see these. Also, just go to Machu Picchu today, in person, and you will witness firsthand numerous men all over the site busy constructing (Reconstructing?) Walls, paths, buildings all around the original ancient stonework. They even admit that they are building it to look like what they think it would have looked like. You might want to clarify this in an upcoming video if I am correct.
Great analysis. Very intrigued by the idea that the megalithic walls exist to prevent/control water leakage. Given enough clues about the "why" of the walls, maybe someday we'll be able to come back around to the "how."
Another thoroughly researched, unbiased project. I'm glad there are people out there like you who can do this kind of research and present it in a very easy to consume way. I commented on your last video about how the water aspect changed my view of the site and this was beyond my expectations, thank you again for sharing. Also I don't think you are crazy about the condor, but the hawk was a bit squiffy :P
Water management actually provides a reason for the tight-fit polygonal masonry. Once these techniques were mastered, they could then be applied more generally. Brilliant speculation!
Fascinating, but where has all the water gone? Is there record of massive changes in weather etc. I know the Sahara was once wet and is evidenced, is there any for this area?
Would you just Look at the detailing ; ( specifically of those..) The 3 or 4 linear ridges in different locations ; above water openings ; etc... I am very impressed by this (!) It gives me the impression of technological mastery and especially scientific insight !
Alot of South America ruins are intimately linked to water, sweet water locations are usually marked by some sort of shrine niche, or sometimes a feature, carvings, model landscapes. It's all very pointedly done in reverence of water.
I love the thinking and hypothesis here! I agree, water was sacred to the Inca civilization. However, I personally do not think the Inca were the original creators of the site. They did not posses the means or technology to construct the polygonal rock walls and structures we see. Additionally, with only 10-15% of the site excavated, I believe we need to fully excavate the site in order to determine the possible true purpose for these megalithic structures. I believe the Inca found these sites post catastrophic event in which these megalithic structures were destroyed and saw the early reverence for these places and continued to honor and respect these sites in their own way. Whatever the answer is, we all can agree that there is no one theory or hypothesis that answers all of the mysteries of these places. We need to keep questioning and hypothesizing on the past until we can as accurately as possible describe the true nature and purpose of these mysteries. I really enjoyed the presentation.
Yeah, you have to wonder how long it took for that reservoir to fill in. If it was a reservoir in Inca times, it's a pretty significant feature that seems conspicuously absent from the chronicler's notes.
Fascinating stuff! Here's a question I've always had about sites featuring the three styles of Incan stonework: Most Ancient Tech theorists point out that the larger megalithic blocks (Uran Pacha) are almost always on the lowest layers of construction at this famous ancient sites, with the smaller and less impressive and stable "later" stones (Ukun Pacha) appearing on top of the megalithic work, hence the theory of the Incans working over the earlier megalithic architects. I figure seeing as Ancient Architects is IMO the most objective and scientific channel of this community then perhaps one of your videos is the best place for me to ask this question: Why couldn't the Incan civilisation started off with the smaller Ukun Pacha style and then figured out how to build massive megalithic stones at a later date (let's say because earthquakes exposed the structural fallibility of the Ukun Pacha style of building), and so then simply rebuilt these walls with the much more stable polygonal megalithic Uran Pacha on the ground where they can provide a stable base for work in the Ukun style to continue on top? I mean, in my head the only impediment to them completely rebuilding the walls of Sacsayhuaman once they figured out the more stable style would be the time and manpower required, but the one thing we know about the Inca is that they had a pretty massive populace for the time back then.
Did you not watch this video, Matt says that the megalithic stones are for water retention and the smaller less stable were for support... You seem intelligent but your comment states that you clearly missed Matt’s observations, why? 😡
@@auspiciouscloud8786 You talk about intelligence, but you seem to have taken Matt's comments about water retention systems and applied them to ALL stonework across Peru. Just to clarify, I'm talking about places where the giant multi-tonne rocks are at the bottom and then rougher smaller work on top, these can be seen in Cusco and Sacsay and no these are for WALLS, as in Cusco, and NOT water retention. The giant megalithic water retention constructions Matt discusses could have just came later.
@@matthewshingleton7088 I like how you are saying could have come later. He is saying that the giant megalithic stones are for water retention, which makes the most sense of all. The earthquakes also make it necessary to use polygonal stonework for water retention or for wall building. Just because someone said that the Inca said they didn’t do the big stones doesn’t mean they didn’t. Thank you for your pleasant reply, by the way.
@@auspiciouscloud8786 My point was in discussion to the various constructions we see around Peru, the walls in Cusco, the buildings of Machu Picchu, etc, where we see giant megalithic blocks at the base and non-megalithic blocks on top, and every ancient high technoology theorist states "well this proves the megalithic were the older layers, they're the lower layers". Well no, not if they knocked down the structure and rebult it with megalthic at the bottom for greater stability, which they had ample manpower at their disposal to do so in a relatively short time. What you're questioning my "intelligence" over (and then wondering why you got a snarky response) is Matt's theory about water retention structures. Well obviously if you need the megalithic to build the water retention structures then that's how they were originally built, but these structures could have been built from scratch at a much later point in the Incan Empire's lifetime when they had acquired the knowledge of how to quarry, shape, and handle megalthic rocks. It is not rocket science. Matt does not prove the dates when these structures were built, he's just offering a theory on what function they served!
You really need to see things and follow Your intuition, if You want to recognize groundstructures representing Condor and Falcon! There are worldwide examples of huge Pictures of animals on ground. Nazca is not o far away and is famous for it. Great work, Matt!
Another great video! The major question remains the same - what kind of tools and technology did the primitive ancient people use to accomplish all of this? It’s not just polygonal masonry with some blocks weighing tens of tonnes, but carving the landscape on such a scale! Apart from this to complete such a mega project a lot of work had to be done prior, like geodesic research, planning. Not to mention proper logistics. Or maybe the people who built this were not so primitive? It takes more than just an obsession with water, religious beliefs and a mega workforce to construct this! Let’s not forget that this isn’t the only mind blowing archeological site in South America. For instance, there’s the 8 km long water channel in Cumbe Mayo carved in bedrock with unexplainable precision.
I can’t answer the “how”. I think most Sacsayhuaman stone was quarried in situ, right there. The large basal blocks could have been very close to the final position.
@@AncientArchitects The stone might have been quarried the same place as the construction, but what amount of bronze (or whatever material) the tools were made of it would have taken to produce? If it was thousands of people who worked there, they needed food etc. In Egypt the classic explanation is that it was done for the Pharaoh by slaves, here it definitely looks like it served a technological purpose (in Egypt actually it looks the same) and the explanation that the ancient ruler was obsessed with water simply doesn’t work...
@@scifigeezer5271 Sure, that’s why they carved millions of tons of rock throughout the Americas, would’ve been easier to invent a tap and connect it to a bronze pipe as due to conventional history they had to use hundreds of millions of tonnes of it anyway! 😜
The water theory makes a lot of sense. As I was imagining water in these structures while watching your video, I couldn't help but think that the cutouts that look like inverted staircase steps, are actually water height markers. Some might have been marking the water level on ceremonial dates, like equinoxes. Others might have been user guided, as in when the water reached this cutout, a certain water channel was to be opened or closed.
Very informative my friend! It was beginning to look like a water park a little bit! People had to have fun back then too right? Dont feel bad about seeing things, I watch for things like that all the time! ( the land has many spirit shapes) I thought I saw HAND shapes at the ends of the zig zag walls from the aerial view! This is my favorite ancient site , would love to go there! I also saw what reminded me of the Olmec heads vaguely in that one boulder!
You might be on to something, but I still think that the Inca people came from Bolivia and found the ruins of a previous civilization! Keep up the good work Matt... Greetings from a Suspicious 0bserver from the Netherlands!
I did a google earth view zoomed out far enough and its evident the whole of Cusco valley is a big dry lake bed! with clear view of the 2 rivers that ran off to the east and west and the collapsed levy that drained the lake on the south-west corner. That explains why the giant retaining sea walls of Sacsayuaman to break lake waves. Sacsayuaman was probably still spewing glacier water long after Lake Cusco levy collapsed becoming Cusco valley. Thats when the ponds where created by the locals up there, to capture the water after the lake drained...Also Higher up in the mountains there are other lakes and glaciers that most likely nursed down to Cusco'.... just imagining. thank you @Ancient Architects
It's no coincidence that theres, animals, plants, figures, landscapes & probably astronomical objects embedded into the masonry either. Maybe that was on purpose to show how without water we wouldn't have those things. A way to celebrate their existence perhaps. Also interesting how the wall is facing Qocha Chincanas, like the things embedded in its design where always facing their source(water). Some food for thought, thanks for the videos.
The water management makes sense but I disagree that it was built all at the same time. You could say that the Inka repaired and used this site before it's destruction. Thanks for sharing 👍
He NEVER said it was built all at the same time, what the heck and you’re not the only one.... 😡 Why do people have this immediate brain washed state of who built what, did you not watch the video....? Sounds like Matt is getting too close to the truth... keep diverting people from the truth by causing argument about who built it, omg your are missing the whole subject of the video. 😡
Great video, very interesting insights with the water angle. If the tight fit polygonal walls were constructed for water management, we have to then transfer that theory and look at Cusco itself, as it has buildings in this style too.. I do have one axe to grind though. Making the claim that the loose stonework filling the gaps of these tight fit polygonal walls was made by the same people at the same time is pretty ludicrous.
If it was a spring there could they do some kind of excavation to prove that? Find the water table under that area? The wear on the rock does look like water erosion.
Does the erosion on the crazy monument rocks look like a combination of water, weather, and humans crawling all over them for 1000 years? Maybe some contemptuous Spanish destruction thrown in for good luck?
I think the stone 'chairs' and platforms were for people to sit on. The pools could have been a place for swimming or taking a bath, maybe in a ritualistic way. Maybe they took their families from the city on a 'Sunday' trip and hung out on the rocks in and around the pool. The stairs seams to start at the water level so it would be easy to climb up to the various seats and platforms. That to me sounds like the most obvious explanation :-) It had several functions like storing water, for rituals but also recreational like a spa or Roman bath.
IMO the dry stone was added later in time for support. Likely by the Inca. We can see in many places like Machu Pichu where Inca used rough stones to build on top of the old polygonal work. Are you saying that all polygonal construction was done by the Inca? I don’t understand how pottery found next to the masonry instantly confirms Quilke or Inca construction. It’s a theory, but it’s hardly conclusive.
@Albert Frankenstien You're*. Come back at me when you get as smart as me 😉. I get that he needs to make content, but sometimes it feels like he repeats old theories that didn't hold water a few months ago as if they are a fresh perspective. It's like the argument people who believe in god have, "you can't prove that God doesn't exist". Fair fair, i can't prove the Inca didn't build these walls, but neither can anyone prove that they did.
@Albert Frankenstien No, Mr RUclips comment guy. I believe in being as certain as the evidence will allow. Assumptions cannot become fact due to a simple lack of definitive evidence, agreed? Finding pottery shards at the same sedimentary level as some of the polygonal walls in no way automatically proves that the same culture that created the pottery also created the wall. That is the conclusion AA is coming to, or is leaning heavily towards. It's all good though, he's stirring up a debate around topics that don't get enough scrutiny. This kind of coverage sometimes leads to further research and preservation. The argument around the truth of origin is the fun part. ✌️
Man... I love all the crazy videos, You know what i mean but you have brought such a nice grounded approach to the subject and im grateful for it. Much of this study gets ignored bc of the ancient aliens groups and while that may have led me to this world of study, I have departed from it and im thankful you are level headed. This video is brilliant Thank you!
Same for me. A lot of the alternative ideas got me interested but the more I researched, the more I found holes in theories, so now I try and stick to the science and make calculated assumptions based on what I can see 👍
Great work but I don’t think your case for this being Incan is very strong. You suggest the different types of masonry are present because they serve different purposes. This doesn’t make much sense as the different types of masonry are frequently stacked on top of one another or used in such a way that it’s not logical to suggest the same people used different techniques as going from tight polygonal designs to essentially stacked rubble is to extreme especially considering they would have both been visible. Also, if this was Incan it would have likely still been in use when the Spanish arrived. Lastly, it is recorded by the Conquistadors that the Incan did not take credit for these structures. This is all interesting but logically this doesn’t add up to Incan or even from the immediate predecessors of the Incan.
I agree that the megalithic work and the oldest forms of stone working/carving are technologically beyond the Inca and were like most cultures around the world, found megalithic works that were restored to working order.
@@tanner1985 EXACTLY, and why is this commenter so ignorant, is it possibly because they he only wants to hear himself??? In the US he would be considered obstructionist and be told to get this head out of their ars... It is very clear that the point of this video is about water NOT about who built what, lol 😂🤣😅
Springs will change on a heartbeat if there is a geological event at just the right magnitude. The aquifers run along the different strata and when they meet any fissures or hard stone or clay or what-have-you, they will change direction. A spring will be in the same place for 100 years. Then.. bam. No spring. The aquifer can be fed from a long way off. The change does not have to even be nearby. ^^ I wrote it on the internet as though I know it, but I am no geologist. Hit me if I am wrong.
As I watched, I considered how the Spaniards might have destroyed the spring. But even a Spaniard could appreciate a park of that grandeur! How could someone come to destroy something so amazing?!
When I visited Sacsayhuaman as a young guy who knew nothing, they said it was a "fortress". I looked at it with all the ways into it and thought: this is the dumbest worst designed "fortress" in the world. Never mind the fact you could just go round the back which had no walls at all. It clearly was not a fortress. This explanation makes alot more sense.
I am also wondering if this place was so much about water, could the water at this site have any softening properties on the limestone? Also could the rounded stones of the wall been put in place by floating them there some how? Just a thought!
Good ideas about this being a water park. Also this, would make for a nice fish farm pond, with turtles, & frogs! 3'd Lego type of Megalithic Structures; look to be strewn around. A Olmac head, or Condor massive build!🗿
Probably the "Hawk "was satisfied with this place, because it was his pool, with hot water, might be sauna as well around and other facilities, like spa.
We can’t call it a reservoir or not without knowing if seasonal rain can support spring water all year round, if not we also need to research on how much water was require for what size population and what size of reservoir did we need. The round shape plateau isn’t lies at depression but located higher than surround ground out of reach of aqua channel which only feed basin but elevated land scape.
Sacsayhuaman is indeed on higher ground than Cusco itself, but the mountains to the north and west are very much higher and a good source of spring water. I rather think the idea of a reservoir is to store water for use out of the rain season, otherwise why build a reservoir? It is possible that the springs are now dry due to either a change in climate or more likely modern channeling of water to serve Cusco.
Great analysis. There may have been significant water flow from the reservoir to the extent that they created the megalithic zig zag walls to control water flow to Cuzco. There are smaller versions of this model scattered through out the region. This would make a great hydrology study.
Water is always regarded as sacred and holy, the pagans in Britain and Europe have goddess worship linked to fresh and also sea water. When the Romans and others started to Christianise europe and Britain the fresh water wells were dedicated to the saints, St Mary in particular with Mary stemming from Mar, the Sea/Water. Interesting take Matt, look forward to more on the issue, like why is the water brackish in Titicaca? When did that happen and so on.
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Sacsayhuaman phonetically sounds exactly Like Sexy Woman
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Can someone in comments use their superior knowledge of 3d rendering and use the linked 3d model of the site, and use a program like sketch fab to cut and slice, turn and flip the boulders and wrecked areas and perhaps maybe tetris it back together sort of it dont need to be perfect just create a better overall picture, come on smarter people then me callin on my fellow Archinerds
This is a well rendered hypothesis. It leaves me wondering what the water table looked like during the times of construction and use.
Several methods of fabrication of the polygonal masonry using clay/gypsum replicas, a topography translator, reduced clay models of the stone blocks, and a 3D-pantograph are described in the article “Fabrication methods of the polygonal masonry of large tightly fitted stone blocks with curved surface interfaces in megalithic structures of Peru” (DOI: 10.20944/preprints202108.0087.v5). I do not provide a direct link, because RUclips does not allow a comment with this link. Search by the article title.
Lol the article says all the polygonal masonry worldwide was built by Europeans since the 17th century 😅
I’ve read your article. This method is way too complex to be successful. The way it was really done is far more simple than what you propose
The 10th article edition (DOI: 10.20944/preprints202108.0087.v10) is posted. Search the article by DOI or by title.
For those who are interested in the topic of polygonal masonry. The book “Peruvian polygonal masonry: how, who, when and what for” (114 pp., Litres, Moscow, 2024) has been published. The book is freely available at Litres (to download, a registration is only required).
That last bit where you showed the condor gave me chills. I really appreciate this video for its thoroughness. With regards to Huacas, most carved boulders are huacas, but not all huacas are carved stones, they also include stone idols (not thought to exist anymore), as well as natural features like rivers, mountains, or otherwise sacred spots. Every Inca source unequivocally states that the Huacas are very old, from well before the time of the Inca, basically lost to history, sometimes related to legends of Wiracocha turning people to stone, so it's possible that they were carved in recent times, but honestly I find it unlikely given the oral history. Also, there's no tunnel from Chincana Grande (or Piedra Cansada) to Qocha Chincana. But Chincana is a word that refers to the tunnels, and apparently means "place where one gets lost", so Qocha Chincana is "lake of tunnels". The tunnel that connects to the lake (at least the accessible one) goes a short distance to the east where it emerges among some very odd rock formations.
Thank you. I admit, I am still learning. This channel is basically my current level of knowledge :)
It’s refreshing. Honestly if I read textbooks as a kid and they had said “we think this is what happened, but we really have no idea and it’s mostly just mysterious” I would have been way more interested in history.
@@juliansolros3823 you seem exceptionally interested anyway indeed!
WOW just wow! You are peeling back the layers of mystery bit by bit. Keep it coming because we here all love it!
Thank you I really enjoyed making this video!
Excellent synthesis, Matt. You might add that if you channel in order to control the water, you probably would have no difficulty controlling the populace below: any sign of trouble and "the angry gods" could divert the flow with a sluice, perhaps collecting water in the great basin, and dry up the waterfall into the city. That would be both theatrically and practically quite effective, I can imagine.
Interesting connection with politics and crowds management!
This is such a fantastic piece of work. I love how scientific you are about approaching your videos. I feel like some of these videos will be cited scientifically in the future in the same way you cite older papers from days gone by. Keep going this is amazing work
you've gone into some detail in this one Matt , i like the outlines of the birds idea and your connection with the water channels is good too . can't wait for more info now thanks ..
I try to go into as much detail as possible :) Thanks mate
This is a fantastic video! I haven't heard anything about this site that makes so much sense, and with your explanations of what may have been there, I can't unsee it. It's no longer a strange place with strange architecture, but looks like a a very useful and beautiful site. No wonder it was so important. It must have been very impressive in it's day.
Exactly my thinking! Also it seems absurd that the pros don’t know this but why keep up the mystery??? Archeologists should be renamed to Liars For Tourism! ❤️ You are amazing Matt (Ancient Architects)!!
As a materials scientist with a specialty in electrochemistry, my theory about the Giza pyramids involves connecting their construction with piezo-electric minerals also used by other pyramid cultures around the globe. First, I believe there was a global civilization in the past (prior to the 9500BC comet strike which was probably the worst of that 'cycle' of comet strikes) that was multi-cultural but sharing myths and philosophies, engineering and technology, and religion. From the global alignment of the pyramids in Egypt, South America and China, I believe intercontinental communication was possible by synchronously 'tuning' the piezo-electric pyramids like a radio network (remember crystal radios of the early 1900s?). I risk going further with this by hypothesizing that the huge, non-tomb, interior cavities at Giza act like resonant amplifiers of human brain waves (!!!) or some EM instrument that are transmitted like radio waves and picked up and amplified by the other piezo-electric caverns across the globe. And, the complement 'instrument' for that radio network were human 'sensitives' (the distant past, pre-cursors of the young men and women, eg Vestal Virgins?) whose 'special' talents were hereditary such that lineages were maintained just for that purpose. Also, running water is a conductor/amplifier aid which could explain why at Giza the pyramids were constructed on top of underground rivers. In anycase, personally i see links between the quartz, schist, mica and granite materials and pyramidal shapes at Giza, South Americ, China Siberia, Bosnia (!), Panang ...! It all adds up to electromagnetic technology.
I've had the thought for a while now that putting a large mass on top of a piezoelectric column like granite would produce a measurable voltage across the column due to natural vibrations in the earths crust. You are the first person to mention something similar that I've ever seen. Kudos to you good sir.
I love it when you use your geological expertise. Thanks for another fascinating video.
Thanks for watching
Gotta love all the work you do. Always well put together.
Thank you 🙏
Love your videos bro. They are well researched and informative. I just had to point it out but, at 10:53 the main rock that is shown in the picture you used looked like a face that been badly eroded by water. I know this might just be paradolia but I had to point it out. Keep up the good work👍🏾👌🏾
I was just going to say the same thing, its definitely a face, you can see the lips, it looks olmec.. cool stuff
I've been thinking a lot about how water in general seems to have been massively sacred to ancient Southern and Central American peoples and I have to say I'm highly encouraged by this line of thinking about water rituals. I think we are just starting to scratch the surface on just how differently the ancients of the region looked at the natural world, and how highly they valued juxtaposition of earth and sky and water and animal symbology that they found in nature. As for water rituals, and what you described as a possible "flooding" ritual overseen by the ruler at Sacsayhuaman reminded me of a theory I had heard about the Teotihuacan complex and made me wonder if such a ritual might serve more than one purpose or meaning. Also a Sun and Moon temple site, I heard a theory that the entire Teotihuacan complex may have been built with the intention of flooding as there seems to be evidence of water around the bases of many of the structures there. I know its two separate cultures but it made me wonder if such a ritual, like their art and the Mayan writing system, might also too have been designed to have layers of meaning and purpose. For example I think the Teotihuacan theory mentioned the builders may have been using such a large area of controlled water flooding as a sort of massive stellar observatory using the still reflection in the water to view the night sky. The Earth Sky Water connection seemed to be aligned with this idea as well as the possibility that such a ritual may have even been a tribute to the ancestors destroyed by the flood as the Egyptians also incorporated ritual tributes to Zepteppi, and even the Moi of Easter Island and the Enclosures of Gobekli Teppe seem to have been connected to rituals honoring the past and the memory of the world and ancestors lost.
I really like your detailed work and just started watching your videos about a month ago. What you have outlined here is worthy of respect and hopefully leads to even more studies of this area. After many years of interest and some research in ancient architecture and ancient obscured human history, I consider that the polygonal walls could have been made by using a type of sandbag or other soft fabric container that would bulge slightly when filled with some kind of geopolymer. Filled, stacked and poured, one layer at a time, given a little time to harden before stacking the next layer, they would conform together snugly, and after petrification over time and natural processes, what remains are the stone blocks we see today. What baffles me most is how it looks like there are certain animals represented in some areas of the walls.
Another interesting idea I've heard presented before is frequency manipulation, total sci fi sounding but perhaps the molecular structure can be temporarily altered under certain wavelengths and then as the rocks were stacked, their edges were manipulated to sort of meld together. Thats a very wild idea but fun to hypothesize on.
As for the out-of-place lighter chunks of rocks that appear to have carved sections of stairways and straight edges etc, I am thinking they are actually very ancient remnants of some other petrified ruins. Most remnants of extremely ancient times all over the world appear as just chunks of stones after all these years but in some rare cases we see bits and pieces of those monumental structures sticking out as a petrified stone imprint. In some cases you can even see that on the stone "carvings" are things that wouldn't need to be carved into stone that would only serve a purpose structurally. A rock doesn't need to have things such as crossbeams and bolts and rivets carved into them. We see random straight edges, perfectly cut squares and holes, straight edges that look like they would continue but instead suddenly end so precisely as if snapped off cleanly by an unfathomable force. These sections are considered to be rock-carved holes and walls in the sides of cliffs and stones in mainstream archaeology and they give their reasons, but the randomness of how it is all laid out leads me to believe its really very old pieces of structures that have seen many disasters over a long period of time, possibly petrified eons ago & eventually smashed to bits post-petrification, scattering pieces all over, like a rose dipped in liquid nitrogen and smashed into clean fragments. Might sound a bit weird but so does ancient primitive civilizations hand chiseling perfectly cut edges into some rocks laying around. This looks like (to me) old remains of a mega sized structure beneath the remaining land. You can see more outlines and whats left of other structural components under the grass and dirt and chunks of stone and ruins that go down, as well as walls that are partially buried. It could go down far. More recent civilization used its existing inner structure to their advantage with their waterway tunnels and the springs may well have been the water system of the previous mega structure that this ruin sits on top of! There is more to be unearthed. Thanks for reading my ramble
Just when an AA therapy session is needed, there it is in its splendor, perfectly on time, and perfectly perfect. Thank you Matt for takin my brain away from me for 24 min.......48 min im watchin this twice.
Thank you! Making these videos also takes me away from real life. :)
@@AncientArchitects Hope yur doin good in real life Matt, survivin and healthy at the least.
@Albert Frankenstien who said anything about aliens? AA is short for Ancient Architects yah dope lol.
@@doomed2die595 ya right nice try. aliens not gana trick me
@@doomed2die595 ya right nice try. aliens not gana trick me
All these things you cover really shows that we have very little idea about the last 100 thousand years of human life and the things we have done. Keep up the quality work
I appreciate your deskchair scholarship. We need more people examining such ancient sites in order to fully understand what the ancients were doing. The only part of your examination I openly object to is "seeing" images of the birds on the landscape from a higher view, mostly because the terrain does not look now like it looked then, but also because the images of such birds would have been different for the ancients than it is for us. Keep critically analyzing these ancient works!
Solid look at the contextual landscape. Nice work here as usual.
Yes! still watching, just reserving future post to ask, wow, i think that area is a big manual valve to direct the water in different ways, to fill the pool, or go down the hill, etc.
great video Matt!
The site is so large, when I visited, was unable to see it all. Incas, etc we’re big on water and artesian springs. Near by, at about 15,000 ft is Baños del Inca, and of course above Machu Picchu, with irrigation/plumbing channels into the sites. Down River from Machu Picchu are hot thermal spring baths that I had visited too. Visited Caral as well. Irrigation canals line the Supe and other valleys that are still used today. Amazing culture, but disappearing Andean Glaciers aren’t replenishing these springs.
I truly can appreciate the theory/concept of the outline of condor aerial perspective. Nice!
Thank YOU - This is a helpful information for me and my personal History research !!!
I look to many of your videos and know the whole complex and the Storys about that.
But again (i think it´s the 5th time), you have show me some really important things!!!
The water management is some really important knowledge for our ancestors and..
..our understanding for us and what they did long before us in this region int this hills.
You have show again, that looking from above is much more important that we know.
+++ One Point that you have given me Know +++
4 Points you have give me in the last Years !!!!!!!!
- waterresistand walls and the bigger looking view above this place with eagle eyes.
- polagynal walls around the world and that they are often the oldest (foundation).
- Special stonework marks, in global cultures that are official have no conact.
- simularitys in so much Archeological sites and Mystical Storys and bounds.
- and so on, pl do your thing and find more of this, i love History research!
Thank you for you work!
Any times nice to see it..
Greetings from Germany
Thank you! And good luck with the research!
This actually makes a lot of sense! The way everything falls into place with this theory is really astounding.
It did for me. Thank you
Bravo. Well researched and presented. Their sophistication is breathtaking. Thanks Matt.
Cheers 👍
OMG I saw the condor and the hawk!
Thanks for validating the human endeavor and design.
Wyoming National Park has a Hawk too. HUGE and gorgeous view!
Archaeology has barely scratched the study of archaeological landscapes. There's a great deal to learn.
Absolutely brilliant research Matt . Thank you so much . 🙏♥️
After getting a ton of bad news t work, this was a welcome sight.
Thanks for turning this day around!
Sorry to hear that. And glad the video helped
Wow! I think you’re on the right track, Good research 😀
What outstanding hydrological abilities they had. They seem to have built everything with multi purpose in mind. But not such a stretch to the imagination when you add their beliefs of venerating the elements of the planet with water being the most important. Today we seem to build things for functionality only. Back then they created beautiful structures that worked functionally but with the added aspects of giving thanks and appreciation to the planet 👍💗👍
It reminds me of Ancient Egypt, in terms of the complex overlap of asserting political power over the populace, managing essential resources, and integrating their religious beliefs into all of that?
Dude , you are a professional at this . Awesome research
Thanks man
Thanks for your work on this mystery. I wanted to share a thought regarding the standard masonry that you point out in Sacsayhuaman. These crudely built small-stone wall seem to be a very common recent/modern practice of reconstruction/clean-up/Tourist-accommodation Not only in Peru but all ancient sites that attract tourists. I think I am hearing you say in your videos that you believe them to be something that is also ancient, but if you look at the old original Black and white photos that document of these sites you will not see these. Also, just go to Machu Picchu today, in person, and you will witness firsthand numerous men all over the site busy constructing (Reconstructing?) Walls, paths, buildings all around the original ancient stonework. They even admit that they are building it to look like what they think it would have looked like. You might want to clarify this in an upcoming video if I am correct.
Great analysis. Very intrigued by the idea that the megalithic walls exist to prevent/control water leakage. Given enough clues about the "why" of the walls, maybe someday we'll be able to come back around to the "how."
Another thoroughly researched, unbiased project. I'm glad there are people out there like you who can do this kind of research and present it in a very easy to consume way. I commented on your last video about how the water aspect changed my view of the site and this was beyond my expectations, thank you again for sharing. Also I don't think you are crazy about the condor, but the hawk was a bit squiffy :P
Haha. I like to speculate a little 😂
well researched videos like this give validity to critical research of ancient sites that deviate from the academic canon.
Great video and incredible insightful analysis!! Thank you!! Do you think the mysterious Moray structure is also a reservoir?
We can appreciate all these structured puzzles that the ancients left for us to discover and wonder about.
Enjoyed the discussion. Very logical and quite believable but.....
Why no water these days coming from any of the springs?
What has changed?
Amazing investigation. I’m from Peru and this makes sense. Congratulations
Absolutely stunning... thank you for sharing your knowledge
I love your research and appreciate this video very much. This is a nice fresh look at a problem that is begging to be solved
Thank you!
Great video and interpretation of this site.
What a beautiful place it must have been.
I like to think so. And there would have been so many buildings around too.
Very good Matt enjoyed that immensely thank you for the research
Water management actually provides a reason for the tight-fit polygonal masonry. Once these techniques were mastered, they could then be applied more generally. Brilliant speculation!
Yep... I speculate, but I guess that’s how every idea starts. I try to give the walls context.
@@AncientArchitects oh, I didn't mean it in a negative way at all. I love what you're doing!
@@travishayes6678 you’re apologizing for the wrong thing....
Fascinating, but where has all the water gone? Is there record of massive changes in weather etc. I know the Sahara was once wet and is evidenced, is there any for this area?
Would you just Look at the detailing ; ( specifically of those..) The 3 or 4 linear ridges in different locations ; above water openings ; etc...
I am very impressed by this (!)
It gives me the impression of technological mastery and especially scientific insight !
Alot of South America ruins are intimately linked to water, sweet water locations are usually marked by some sort of shrine niche, or sometimes a feature, carvings, model landscapes. It's all very pointedly done in reverence of water.
Yes... these wak’a’s I think are natural limestone outcrops were water came from. So they carved them, honoured them and respected them. 👍
I love the thinking and hypothesis here! I agree, water was sacred to the Inca civilization. However, I personally do not think the Inca were the original creators of the site. They did not posses the means or technology to construct the polygonal rock walls and structures we see. Additionally, with only 10-15% of the site excavated, I believe we need to fully excavate the site in order to determine the possible true purpose for these megalithic structures.
I believe the Inca found these sites post catastrophic event in which these megalithic structures were destroyed and saw the early reverence for these places and continued to honor and respect these sites in their own way.
Whatever the answer is, we all can agree that there is no one theory or hypothesis that answers all of the mysteries of these places. We need to keep questioning and hypothesizing on the past until we can as accurately as possible describe the true nature and purpose of these mysteries. I really enjoyed the presentation.
Yeah, you have to wonder how long it took for that reservoir to fill in. If it was a reservoir in Inca times, it's a pretty significant feature that seems conspicuously absent from the chronicler's notes.
God utterly destroyed them during the flood.
@@vickyesperanza8267 LOL
your statement is very racist.
@@ast3663 Who's statement is racist?
Fascinating theory. Plausible. Good work!
Fascinating stuff! Here's a question I've always had about sites featuring the three styles of Incan stonework: Most Ancient Tech theorists point out that the larger megalithic blocks (Uran Pacha) are almost always on the lowest layers of construction at this famous ancient sites, with the smaller and less impressive and stable "later" stones (Ukun Pacha) appearing on top of the megalithic work, hence the theory of the Incans working over the earlier megalithic architects. I figure seeing as Ancient Architects is IMO the most objective and scientific channel of this community then perhaps one of your videos is the best place for me to ask this question: Why couldn't the Incan civilisation started off with the smaller Ukun Pacha style and then figured out how to build massive megalithic stones at a later date (let's say because earthquakes exposed the structural fallibility of the Ukun Pacha style of building), and so then simply rebuilt these walls with the much more stable polygonal megalithic Uran Pacha on the ground where they can provide a stable base for work in the Ukun style to continue on top? I mean, in my head the only impediment to them completely rebuilding the walls of Sacsayhuaman once they figured out the more stable style would be the time and manpower required, but the one thing we know about the Inca is that they had a pretty massive populace for the time back then.
Did you not watch this video, Matt says that the megalithic stones are for water retention and the smaller less stable were for support... You seem intelligent but your comment states that you clearly missed Matt’s observations, why? 😡
@@auspiciouscloud8786 You talk about intelligence, but you seem to have taken Matt's comments about water retention systems and applied them to ALL stonework across Peru. Just to clarify, I'm talking about places where the giant multi-tonne rocks are at the bottom and then rougher smaller work on top, these can be seen in Cusco and Sacsay and no these are for WALLS, as in Cusco, and NOT water retention. The giant megalithic water retention constructions Matt discusses could have just came later.
@@matthewshingleton7088 I like how you are saying could have come later. He is saying that the giant megalithic stones are for water retention, which makes the most sense of all. The earthquakes also make it necessary to use polygonal stonework for water retention or for wall building. Just because someone said that the Inca said they didn’t do the big stones doesn’t mean they didn’t. Thank you for your pleasant reply, by the way.
@@auspiciouscloud8786 My point was in discussion to the various constructions we see around Peru, the walls in Cusco, the buildings of Machu Picchu, etc, where we see giant megalithic blocks at the base and non-megalithic blocks on top, and every ancient high technoology theorist states "well this proves the megalithic were the older layers, they're the lower layers". Well no, not if they knocked down the structure and rebult it with megalthic at the bottom for greater stability, which they had ample manpower at their disposal to do so in a relatively short time. What you're questioning my "intelligence" over (and then wondering why you got a snarky response) is Matt's theory about water retention structures. Well obviously if you need the megalithic to build the water retention structures then that's how they were originally built, but these structures could have been built from scratch at a much later point in the Incan Empire's lifetime when they had acquired the knowledge of how to quarry, shape, and handle megalthic rocks. It is not rocket science. Matt does not prove the dates when these structures were built, he's just offering a theory on what function they served!
Wow! What an eye opening analysis!
You made a good point, a very reasonable observation and conclusion!
You really need to see things and follow Your intuition, if You want to recognize groundstructures representing Condor and Falcon! There are worldwide examples of huge Pictures of animals on ground. Nazca is not o far away and is famous for it. Great work, Matt!
Another great video! The major question remains the same - what kind of tools and technology did the primitive ancient people use to accomplish all of this? It’s not just polygonal masonry with some blocks weighing tens of tonnes, but carving the landscape on such a scale! Apart from this to complete such a mega project a lot of work had to be done prior, like geodesic research, planning. Not to mention proper logistics. Or maybe the people who built this were not so primitive? It takes more than just an obsession with water, religious beliefs and a mega workforce to construct this! Let’s not forget that this isn’t the only mind blowing archeological site in South America. For instance, there’s the 8 km long water channel in Cumbe Mayo carved in bedrock with unexplainable precision.
I can’t answer the “how”. I think most Sacsayhuaman stone was quarried in situ, right there. The large basal blocks could have been very close to the final position.
@@AncientArchitects The stone might have been quarried the same place as the construction, but what amount of bronze (or whatever material) the tools were made of it would have taken to produce? If it was thousands of people who worked there, they needed food etc. In Egypt the classic explanation is that it was done for the Pharaoh by slaves, here it definitely looks like it served a technological purpose (in Egypt actually it looks the same) and the explanation that the ancient ruler was obsessed with water simply doesn’t work...
@@alexhoffmann9726 yeah I mean who would be obsessed with the exilir of life?! 🤣 They didn't have taps back then.
@@scifigeezer5271 Sure, that’s why they carved millions of tons of rock throughout the Americas, would’ve been easier to invent a tap and connect it to a bronze pipe as due to conventional history they had to use hundreds of millions of tonnes of it anyway! 😜
The water theory makes a lot of sense. As I was imagining water in these structures while watching your video, I couldn't help but think that the cutouts that look like inverted staircase steps, are actually water height markers.
Some might have been marking the water level on ceremonial dates, like equinoxes. Others might have been user guided, as in when the water reached this cutout, a certain water channel was to be opened or closed.
That makes so much sense!! 👍
We definitely need a video on inca, water, and ritual 👌
Very informative my friend! It was beginning to look like a water park a little bit! People had to have fun back then too right? Dont feel bad about seeing things, I watch for things like that all the time! ( the land has many spirit shapes) I thought I saw HAND shapes at the ends of the zig zag walls from the aerial view! This is my favorite ancient site , would love to go there! I also saw what reminded me of the Olmec heads vaguely in that one boulder!
Excellent powers of deduction. You'd make a great detective.
You might be on to something, but I still think that the Inca people came from Bolivia and found the ruins of a previous civilization! Keep up the good work Matt... Greetings from a Suspicious 0bserver from the Netherlands!
Well done. Very intriguing.
Cheers 👍
Great episode, Matt! 👍
Thank you
I did a google earth view zoomed out far enough and its evident the whole of Cusco valley is a big dry lake bed! with clear view of the 2 rivers that ran off to the east and west and the collapsed levy that drained the lake on the south-west corner. That explains why the giant retaining sea walls of Sacsayuaman to break lake waves. Sacsayuaman was probably still spewing glacier water long after Lake Cusco levy collapsed becoming Cusco valley. Thats when the ponds where created by the locals up there, to capture the water after the lake drained...Also Higher up in the mountains there are other lakes and glaciers that most likely nursed down to Cusco'.... just imagining. thank you @Ancient Architects
It's no coincidence that theres, animals, plants, figures, landscapes & probably astronomical objects embedded into the masonry either. Maybe that was on purpose to show how without water we wouldn't have those things. A way to celebrate their existence perhaps. Also interesting how the wall is facing Qocha Chincanas, like the things embedded in its design where always facing their source(water). Some food for thought, thanks for the videos.
I agree. I think it was all part of the splendour of this site that celebrated nature and the gods
Thanks that was very eye opening.
Take care.
Kind regards
Steve
I swear Matt you know when I get home and have stuff to do But not after kicking back and watching this. Thanks sir.
Hahaha
The water management makes sense but I disagree that it was built all at the same time. You could say that the Inka repaired and used this site before it's destruction. Thanks for sharing 👍
He NEVER said it was built all at the same time, what the heck and you’re not the only one.... 😡 Why do people have this immediate brain washed state of who built what, did you not watch the video....? Sounds like Matt is getting too close to the truth... keep diverting people from the truth by causing argument about who built it, omg your are missing the whole subject of the video. 😡
One of your best videos !!!
Thanks man!
Your interpretation makes sense. Beautiful Saksayhuaman. Lovely skilled engineering. But was this killke inspired?
Great ideas and presentation as usual!
Great video, very interesting insights with the water angle. If the tight fit polygonal walls were constructed for water management, we have to then transfer that theory and look at Cusco itself, as it has buildings in this style too.. I do have one axe to grind though. Making the claim that the loose stonework filling the gaps of these tight fit polygonal walls was made by the same people at the same time is pretty ludicrous.
Herro everybody :))
This is excellent work. Water is the key for survival in bad times, having control over this and a backup is brilliant.
Herro!
@@AncientArchitects This might be your best work man.
I need to digest it a bit
@@ZeroOneInfinity Nothing mean about it.. its like his cool trademark.
The polygonal megalithic structures reflect ancient technology beyond the capabilities of the Inca, who built atop pre-existing ruins.
If it was a spring there could they do some kind of excavation to prove that? Find the water table under that area? The wear on the rock does look like water erosion.
Does the erosion on the crazy monument rocks look like a combination of water, weather, and humans crawling all over them for 1000 years? Maybe some contemptuous Spanish destruction thrown in for good luck?
I think the stone 'chairs' and platforms were for people to sit on. The pools could have been a place for swimming or taking a bath, maybe in a ritualistic way. Maybe they took their families from the city on a 'Sunday' trip and hung out on the rocks in and around the pool. The stairs seams to start at the water level so it would be easy to climb up to the various seats and platforms. That to me sounds like the most obvious explanation :-) It had several functions like storing water, for rituals but also recreational like a spa or Roman bath.
Thank you for your work. You give great thought. Curious your thought on the stone carved puma
The sculpted boulders look like models or practicing techniques for stone carving, ie steps, cavity, corners etc
Visiting this site was truly remarkable, we have no idea what kind of advanced technology our ancestors had.
You get a thumbs up on this one good work keep it up bro.
IMO the dry stone was added later in time for support. Likely by the Inca. We can see in many places like Machu Pichu where Inca used rough stones to build on top of the old polygonal work. Are you saying that all polygonal construction was done by the Inca? I don’t understand how pottery found next to the masonry instantly confirms Quilke or Inca construction. It’s a theory, but it’s hardly conclusive.
@Albert Frankenstien You're*. Come back at me when you get as smart as me 😉.
I get that he needs to make content, but sometimes it feels like he repeats old theories that didn't hold water a few months ago as if they are a fresh perspective. It's like the argument people who believe in god have, "you can't prove that God doesn't exist". Fair fair, i can't prove the Inca didn't build these walls, but neither can anyone prove that they did.
@Albert Frankenstien No, Mr RUclips comment guy. I believe in being as certain as the evidence will allow. Assumptions cannot become fact due to a simple lack of definitive evidence, agreed? Finding pottery shards at the same sedimentary level as some of the polygonal walls in no way automatically proves that the same culture that created the pottery also created the wall. That is the conclusion AA is coming to, or is leaning heavily towards. It's all good though, he's stirring up a debate around topics that don't get enough scrutiny. This kind of coverage sometimes leads to further research and preservation. The argument around the truth of origin is the fun part. ✌️
Man... I love all the crazy videos, You know what i mean but you have brought such a nice grounded approach to the subject and im grateful for it. Much of this study gets ignored bc of the ancient aliens groups and while that may have led me to this world of study, I have departed from it and im thankful you are level headed. This video is brilliant Thank you!
Same for me. A lot of the alternative ideas got me interested but the more I researched, the more I found holes in theories, so now I try and stick to the science and make calculated assumptions based on what I can see 👍
Great work but I don’t think your case for this being Incan is very strong. You suggest the different types of masonry are present because they serve different purposes. This doesn’t make much sense as the different types of masonry are frequently stacked on top of one another or used in such a way that it’s not logical to suggest the same people used different techniques as going from tight polygonal designs to essentially stacked rubble is to extreme especially considering they would have both been visible. Also, if this was Incan it would have likely still been in use when the Spanish arrived. Lastly, it is recorded by the Conquistadors that the Incan did not take credit for these structures. This is all interesting but logically this doesn’t add up to Incan or even from the immediate predecessors of the Incan.
@@zm5668 yep, but the functional explanations still is good. pre inca or not
I agree that the megalithic work and the oldest forms of stone working/carving are technologically beyond the Inca and were like most cultures around the world, found megalithic works that were restored to working order.
Is there any knowledge of when the springs dried up? That would give an idea when it was made.
@@tanner1985 EXACTLY, and why is this commenter so ignorant, is it possibly because they he only wants to hear himself??? In the US he would be considered obstructionist and be told to get this head out of their ars... It is very clear that the point of this video is about water NOT about who built what, lol 😂🤣😅
GPR done at the spring site might show the limestone outcrops do deeper and have more formations that might make it make more sense as a whole.
What happened to the springs? Do they not flow no longer?
Springs will change on a heartbeat if there is a geological event at just the right magnitude. The aquifers run along the different strata and when they meet any fissures or hard stone or clay or what-have-you, they will change direction. A spring will be in the same place for 100 years. Then.. bam. No spring. The aquifer can be fed from a long way off. The change does not have to even be nearby.
^^ I wrote it on the internet as though I know it, but I am no geologist. Hit me if I am wrong.
As I watched, I considered how the Spaniards might have destroyed the spring. But even a Spaniard could appreciate a park of that grandeur! How could someone come to destroy something so amazing?!
Love the reservoir idea, makes perfect sense.
Just the thing to watch while I eat me dinner :)
Enjoy!
The large boulder at Sayhuite looks like a mini model of what this Qocha Chincanas used to look like. Sayhuite is about 3 hours from Cusco.
Great work Mr architect!
When I visited Sacsayhuaman as a young guy who knew nothing, they said it was a "fortress". I looked at it with all the ways into it and thought: this is the dumbest worst designed "fortress" in the world. Never mind the fact you could just go round the back which had no walls at all. It clearly was not a fortress. This explanation makes alot more sense.
Makes sense to me. Great work.
I am also wondering if this place was so much about water, could the water at this site have any softening properties on the limestone? Also could the rounded stones of the wall been put in place by floating them there some how? Just a thought!
Keep up your interresting work...
So refreshing to have an intelligent study of misunderstood historical archeology without making huge, unsupported claims of aliens as a default!
Good ideas about this being a water park. Also this, would make for a nice fish farm pond, with turtles, & frogs! 3'd Lego type of Megalithic Structures; look to be strewn around. A Olmac head, or Condor massive build!🗿
Then keep scratching Sir. Another excellent video
Great job it makes sense, something new..
Cheers
Probably the "Hawk "was satisfied with this place, because it was his pool, with hot water, might be sauna as well around and other facilities, like spa.
We can’t call it a reservoir or not without knowing if seasonal rain can support spring water all year round, if not we also need to research on how much water was require for what size population and what size of reservoir did we need.
The round shape plateau isn’t lies at depression but located higher than surround ground out of reach of aqua channel which only feed basin but elevated land scape.
Sacsayhuaman is indeed on higher ground than Cusco itself, but the mountains to the north and west are very much higher and a good source of spring water. I rather think the idea of a reservoir is to store water for use out of the rain season, otherwise why build a reservoir? It is possible that the springs are now dry due to either a change in climate or more likely modern channeling of water to serve Cusco.
Great analysis. There may have been significant water flow from the reservoir to the extent that they created the megalithic zig zag walls to control water flow to Cuzco. There are smaller versions of this model scattered through out the region. This would make a great hydrology study.
Water is always regarded as sacred and holy, the pagans in Britain and Europe have goddess worship linked to fresh and also sea water. When the Romans and others started to Christianise europe and Britain the fresh water wells were dedicated to the saints, St Mary in particular with Mary stemming from Mar, the Sea/Water.
Interesting take Matt, look forward to more on the issue, like why is the water brackish in Titicaca? When did that happen and so on.
It's important to recognize the very important difference between theory and hypothesis.
excellent video! they were the water kings.
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