ONIC FINALLY REVEALED THEIR REACTION AFTER LOSING TO AP BREN in GOTF… 🤯

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  • ONIC FINALLY REVEALED THEIR REACTION AFTER LOSING TO AP BREN in GOTF… 🤯
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  • @bmad1386
    @bmad1386 7 месяцев назад +77

    It's such a massive advantage for any PH rep. when you consider the fact that they regularly fight at much higher levels compared to the other regions.
    Especially evident in Bren fighting like ECHO and lord dancing like Blacklist, the players are also forced to rapidly improve to stay ahead
    Flap for example, suddenly just returning to monster status after Sanford,Nathzz and Edward took his spot

    • @hexflash.
      @hexflash. 7 месяцев назад +5

      that's why bren is the perfect team. they constantly gets challenged by Echo's aggressiveness and Blacklist's waiting game.
      they learned to adopt at both fast paced and patient play style.
      This is what Indonesia doesn't have compared to Philippines.
      Philippines teams has variety of play style, all in Indo uses the same playstyle

    • @xkamotetv2531
      @xkamotetv2531 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@hexflash.Agree 👍

  • @TheWijasmara
    @TheWijasmara 7 месяцев назад +336

    What ONIC need is tight competition...
    They don't have proper rival at MPL ID, unlike AP Bren who has 3 solid competitors.
    Rest of ID teams are just slacking their ass or just have unserious management... too lacks of scouting and coaching...

    • @anonymous3437
      @anonymous3437 7 месяцев назад +7

      Who are those 3 solid competitors?

    • @PaulkingPuth
      @PaulkingPuth 7 месяцев назад +174

      ​@@anonymous3437 ginebra, magnolia, san miguel

    • @sheesh6085
      @sheesh6085 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@anonymous3437echo, black, and rsg are the three consistent teams, they can beat bren, and actually onic ph and minana are looking solid this season.

    • @athomytv
      @athomytv 7 месяцев назад +41

      ​​@@anonymous3437 Possibly BLCK, ECHO and RSG/ONIC.

    • @justinehermosolim3261
      @justinehermosolim3261 7 месяцев назад +53

      ​@@anonymous3437actually it's 5 team echo, Rsg, black, onic, and manana their all strong now.

  • @justnickos
    @justnickos 7 месяцев назад +24

    AP Bren is used in playing against tough competitors because of MPL-PH. the answer is simply in MPL-ID they need to get tough competitors too for Onic to be able to win against AP Bren. the problem now is AP Bren is too solid and the chemistry keeps improving too so idk if Onic can win against AP Bren the next time they meet

  • @rgr9599
    @rgr9599 7 месяцев назад +72

    Damn being a coach isn't easy . After the loss , the words coming out of their mouths is huge. I can't imagine counseling twice. In m5 n in gof. Like what more they can say? Everthing seems perfect in Onic. Its jst APBren had the better fights.

    • @jayargarcia9621
      @jayargarcia9621 7 месяцев назад +6

      even Kairi's face at 3:30 he's like "Ah sh!t here we go again..."😂😂
      kidding aside, yep I agree it's just that ApBren had the better fights🎲 tho I think if CW should have played instead of Albertt maybe the result would have not been the same??🤷‍♂️

    • @thankyouandyouuu
      @thankyouandyouuu 7 месяцев назад

      Being a coach is not about leading in terms of their strategy. The 5 members know best of their own abilities and chemistry between them. A coach must find ways to get into each of the member’s mind and thinking process. This is complicated & hard because of the psychology behind it. Coach must know the mental weakness & challenges each player is experiencing. The end of the video shows it all, he had to release his stress but his voice says he is willing to give all to beat their rivals. Not win. Forget about the scores, focus and learn from the past mistakes and be mindful to come up with new strategies.

    • @thankyouandyouuu
      @thankyouandyouuu 7 месяцев назад +7

      Watching this whole video shows me a lot on what seems to be missed out on. Each player stayed quiet and stuck in their own minds, one even had an earphone on when coach was speaking. These small details show that coach’s words weren’t their priority, rather than processing the whys and hows for their losses. When a player feels insecure, one must remind them why they are in the finals. It’s a chance. Losers will forever learn more than winners. Winners get trophy, losers get lessons to improve. I hope some of you understand my points & message.

    • @teentotycoon
      @teentotycoon 7 месяцев назад

      ​​@@thankyouandyouuuDamn big words

  • @MrGooDei
    @MrGooDei 7 месяцев назад +42

    2:44 "don't be complacent" coach yeb said.

  • @Ace-zw1db
    @Ace-zw1db 7 месяцев назад +184

    2:44 he said 'don't be complacent'

    • @yung_asian2432
      @yung_asian2432 7 месяцев назад +5

      😢 and he was super serious too.

    • @Soda-c1e8h
      @Soda-c1e8h 7 месяцев назад +9

      It isnt that they were so chill about it, its just they dont have possessed the same mentality that Ap bren has, you can see the big difference when Onic facing a decent team compare to when facing the Ap bren💀

  • @KREGAGaming777
    @KREGAGaming777 7 месяцев назад +82

    For me, the difference between Bren and Onic ID is that Bren has more competitors back in MPL PH because there are other strong teams as well, like BLACKLIST, ECHO, and RSG PH. MINANA and ONIC PH, so that's why BREN continues to step up their game every time. while ONIC ID solely dominated MPL ID for the past 3-4 season's now, so there's less competition for them. That's why when they meet BREN, that's what happened, but don't get me wrong, Onic are really strong, but when they face a team just as strong as they are or even stronger, they struggle.

    • @mochzulfikaryusuf3351
      @mochzulfikaryusuf3351 7 месяцев назад +1

      fr

    • @kyondi8480
      @kyondi8480 7 месяцев назад +1

      True idol.

    • @zirex4717
      @zirex4717 7 месяцев назад

      sounds like a regional issue

    • @melaniebartolome5681
      @melaniebartolome5681 7 месяцев назад +1

      yes they are strong with import but if no import ph there weak.see what happened to mpl id invitational all ph in grand final its became a mpl ph.

  • @bmad1386
    @bmad1386 7 месяцев назад +124

    Figuratively speaking : "Then we play 24 hours"
    Flaptzy literally : Been there, done that. I streamed it too.🗿

    • @Kai.Lipsss
      @Kai.Lipsss 7 месяцев назад +45

      i've watched his streams back then i sleep at night, i woke up he still streams ml like wtf

    • @GenX1692
      @GenX1692 7 месяцев назад +10

      @@Kai.Lipsss the man's dedicated, that's for sure

    • @tensee7268
      @tensee7268 7 месяцев назад +4

      36 hrs si flap

    • @rampage4695
      @rampage4695 7 месяцев назад +10

      that's why he deserves to be the goat

    • @daveianbenedictabella7578
      @daveianbenedictabella7578 7 месяцев назад +2

      Last week he stream 24hours again anying😭

  • @harry2406-h2w
    @harry2406-h2w 7 месяцев назад +25

    2:51 behind

    • @weelamb8979
      @weelamb8979 7 месяцев назад

      Who dat thicc chick?

  • @AshikurRahmanRifat
    @AshikurRahmanRifat 7 месяцев назад +342

    Nah man bren destroyed Thier mentals twice that's fucked up..

    • @Chrollo17th
      @Chrollo17th 7 месяцев назад +43

      BOBOnic has been decoded. Analyzing them is too easy bcoz all players of BREN are all monsters.

    • @Yur3i_art247
      @Yur3i_art247 7 месяцев назад +18

      ​@@Chrollo17thYou again! I mean, at least Kairi didn't cry this time, right 😂 ?

    • @Chrollo17th
      @Chrollo17th 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@Yur3i_art247 bcoz kairi knows he is not in his best condition and accept the fact that they will lose again hahaha

    • @notreel4463
      @notreel4463 7 месяцев назад +48

      @@Chrollo17th It's somewhat a rude way to call them that. They were close on winning m5 and the first indonesian team to reach m-series finals again. This time, it seems Bren has completely adapted to their playstyle, but still, they are the only team whose currently the closest to Bren.

    • @KaSimudTV
      @KaSimudTV 7 месяцев назад +4

      reason​@@Chrollo17th

  • @Grang.
    @Grang. 7 месяцев назад +190

    Meanwhile Teams in MPL PH is in f*ckin insane war right now, and if you are watching those matches in week 1 it looks f*ckin Scary 😂

    • @pedro9553
      @pedro9553 7 месяцев назад +31

      Mobile legends for PH is like football for African people. its everything they got. that's why they gave everything they have.

    • @sheesh6085
      @sheesh6085 7 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@pedro9553 why football in africa is not as successful as those european countries?

    • @zanetruesdale7263
      @zanetruesdale7263 7 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@sheesh6085why basketball in the Philippines not as successfull as the European countries?

    • @sheesh6085
      @sheesh6085 7 месяцев назад +22

      @@zanetruesdale7263 because we suck at it and the comparison here is between mlbb for Ph and football for africa lol

    • @zanetruesdale7263
      @zanetruesdale7263 7 месяцев назад

      @@sheesh6085 its the same. Filipinos are crazy for basketball but suck at it and its the same for african football they are crazy about fooltball but suck at it as well..

  • @dia_kiyoko21
    @dia_kiyoko21 7 месяцев назад +11

    Losing is always part of the game and any sports. There will always be the strongest team. The important thing is you keep going, sort out solutions and reinforce what needs to be reinforced.

  • @Renedescartest325
    @Renedescartest325 7 месяцев назад +65

    Onic go into defend position when playing against Apren(they r being carful or they r scared idk). And Apren go aggressive.
    I think they should change that
    Orelse the skills r pretty much same

    • @Chrollo17th
      @Chrollo17th 7 месяцев назад +6

      When BOBOnic become aggressive, they will blame KAIRI, the one who is carrying BOBOnic. It's time to give up BUTTas

    • @Renedescartest325
      @Renedescartest325 7 месяцев назад +16

      @@Chrollo17thIn m4 Kairi carried Onic, there is no denying but M5 n MSC, the other members r also doing pretty good.

    • @Chrollo17th
      @Chrollo17th 7 месяцев назад

      @@Renedescartest325 and now what happened in GotF? Does kairi's mates doing good? They can't even make bren suffer. Even at m5, all bren win is at 14 min mark. All BOBOnic wins is struggle. I'm not sure what is good to you

    • @Renedescartest325
      @Renedescartest325 7 месяцев назад +14

      @@Chrollo17th bro can u show me a proff where Kairi outplayed or carry in GOF??? Or maybe proff where Onic team were feeding again n again n Kairi was only person doing well so they lose??
      Go n watch lol, they were all badly beaten by Apren. Kairi didn't carry or did something, everyone was outplayed, Apren hyper outplayed kairi, butts was outplayed by flaptzy n Supermarco outplayed Albert. Go n watch, don't simple say something by just looking at result of the match😒

    • @mugiwaranoluffyda2477
      @mugiwaranoluffyda2477 7 месяцев назад +11

      @@Chrollo17th bruh they are just struggling against ap bren. I mean every team is. If onic does they are not good? Watchout for their comebacks. I assure they can win against ap bren if they watchout for bushes and play their natural game

  • @bmad1386
    @bmad1386 7 месяцев назад +41

    Bren is a fckin juggernaut and it looks like they're about to run over everyone again 😅
    I mean, yeah, *MAYBE* ECHO could bring enough psycho energy to fight them, but BREN just looks so insane no wonder Onic got rolled.

    • @presidente..
      @presidente.. 7 месяцев назад

      I really want echo n Bren to qualify for MSC..... Bren 99%sure they'll make it to the finals but echo kinda hard cause it's ph

    • @Soda-c1e8h
      @Soda-c1e8h 7 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@presidente..after everything that happened to them last season, ECHO looks like they have sorted it all out and seems to be at their peace at last, theres nothing that will hold them back right now unlike before so its very LIKELY to happen

    • @fl1ckr145
      @fl1ckr145 7 месяцев назад

      @@Soda-c1e8hnot sure if Jaypee can ever truly replace yawi but i hope they get better, Echo has been my favourite team since their international debut in m4

    • @mate6587
      @mate6587 7 месяцев назад

      @@presidente.. to bad it is only 1 team per country are able to join in msc saudi. hope they change it

    • @rampage4695
      @rampage4695 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@mate6587nope its 2 for ph,indo and saudi the rest is 1 rep

  • @Lina-ud8sq
    @Lina-ud8sq 7 месяцев назад +34

    Onic hasn’t had actual competition in Indo for years now. That’s one problem. The Indo teams decided to start having Ph imports both players and coaches, but idk if that’s going to be enough. Watching 1st week of MPL PH last week in all honesty felt like watching Playoffs. The PH teams have started bringing in new blood and emerging star players are taking small steps and shapes already. In MPL Indo, everyone seems too hyper focused on which team has the better import and which team decided better with their roster without one at all. Their focus is weird.

    • @kewlestbmgo896
      @kewlestbmgo896 7 месяцев назад +5

      at this point...Maybe going all ph imports is the only way

    • @sparrow3491
      @sparrow3491 7 месяцев назад +1

      No, apbren improved and learned a lot. Hero pools increased and the same mentality keeps them going.

    • @razerPh
      @razerPh 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@sparrow3491 No, It's just 5 to 6 teams in PH are scary AF, and their not afraid on APBren. This is usually when MPL PH Season was started, even the Veewise dominated S8 I remember, their not freaking afraid of that team. Even APBRen in MPL PH S11 they are the favorites to get to the MSC 2023 and what happened Blacklist took them apart in the playoffs.

    • @vixenharlekin
      @vixenharlekin 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@razerPhthat's because PH is where champions reside. There's no way you can predict MPL PH with 100% certainty. Unlike MPL ID

    • @Lina-ud8sq
      @Lina-ud8sq 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@sparrow3491 true but also, not the point. The point is, when some people doubted because “ph players want/choose to be import” saying things like MPL PH would be boring, and literally Indo has been hyping their imports since before season started (looks like they focused on that rather than the gameplay tbh) MPL S13 started with so many crazy picks and plays (that Ruby Gold being instantly adapted in Indo is proof) Literally an explosive Week 1. This shows that the MPL PH scene is still more competitive despite the “star players” being imported by other nations (no shade, i respect the hustle) because the new bloods and current champions and top teams constantly work hard because everyone wants to win, not just make money. In Indo, there’s about 1-3 competitive teams, but none currently are looking stable or consistent.

  • @ryaeri
    @ryaeri 7 месяцев назад +27

    Mindset set champions apart from their competitors.

  • @AlfinisraR
    @AlfinisraR 7 месяцев назад +9

    I haven't commented seriously here for a long time, you could say that even though Vren left behind, they are getting better, especially since AP Bren recruiting Trebor from Echo, making this team not know what is called a "blunder" and is always hungry for domination, on the other hand, it seems that Onic is "stuck" and can't climbing to a higher level, there is no good investment for Onic to make them stronger, even being on par with AP Bren is already difficult, so accept the reality for Onic fans, the prime of Onic ID is already at the end of the road.

    • @AlfinisraR
      @AlfinisraR 7 месяцев назад +1

      Probably AP Bren chance being msc campion already 90% 😂 also they got treble winner M series for M6 i think at 60% if echo/blacklist or other mpl filipinos team (except tnc) can give a lot surprise on mpl s14 later

    • @selocha4367
      @selocha4367 7 месяцев назад +1

      What sucks is the fact that Geek's last season jungle (Nnael) who plays super well and probably par on with Kairi was just a loan from Onic. Nnael most likely will be benched despite being a high quality player and Geek wont be Onic's toughest MPL ID contender anymore.

    • @AthenaKumar_
      @AthenaKumar_ 7 месяцев назад +1

      U act as if any other ph team apart from bren can beat onic dude

    • @jeju6892
      @jeju6892 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@selocha4367 Geek ain't even close to Onic lol. They're lucky bec of the support meta last season

  • @guillaumebartys4437
    @guillaumebartys4437 7 месяцев назад +5

    it wasn't really the biggest competition this year but the prize pool was really good, even if they are second and it make them more training for next tourneys. Coach Ducky has said that they used to scrim non-stop against ONIC ID and took(stole lol) all their strategy and adapted them to his players. You can go see the podcast with Wolf, Coach Yeb and Coach Ducky.
    Now it's to ONIC to find how to adapt to APBREN, it's cool that there's competition and i think APBren is the best team for MLBB so far. Echo was clearly good too but you can see that they know how to go all out in every occasion or just wait for the only one play that makes them win the game easy. And they have the best hero-pool so far and a really good coach
    Maybe pay them less so they work more or maybe just change Butss because he was really bad at M5 and GOTF

    • @baphometrag7751
      @baphometrag7751 7 месяцев назад +2

      wolf said apbren si like the combination of blacklist and echo

    • @guillaumebartys4437
      @guillaumebartys4437 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@baphometrag7751 i remember trex said that but don't remember if wolf said it as the podcast was long

    • @Gator.DontPlayNoShit
      @Gator.DontPlayNoShit 7 месяцев назад

      Coach Ducky was just being nice. He's friends with Yeb.

    • @guillaumebartys4437
      @guillaumebartys4437 7 месяцев назад

      @@Gator.DontPlayNoShit never said they aren't friends, if they scrim together it's because they clearly know each other and they know that it can help both teams

    • @Gator.DontPlayNoShit
      @Gator.DontPlayNoShit 7 месяцев назад

      @@guillaumebartys4437 The point is Duckeyy is just being humble. He didn't really stole all Onic's strategy. Don't be dumb

  • @xenith8938
    @xenith8938 7 месяцев назад +1

    I feel like there is a lot of "me" in the thinking of Onic ID,
    "If our Heroes are strong, their Heroes are strong too, so be beat in with our Mechanics"
    "Next Game, Next Match, Be Confident, If we want to fight we play as a team"
    "Because the strength of "you guys"(pointed at onic) is adaption, guys"
    Yes this are good advice, but remember that this is a championship match, you can think of yourself to be a god and all, but just like the story of Icarus, you might as well come crashing down.
    I'm not saying that they are all talk, I'm saying that they should always respect what the enemy has, yes you have god lvl mechanics but what if your enemy also has god lvl mechanics? you cant overpower them with mechanic then respect it and sooner or later they will be bound to mess up. Same goes with team play, dont always assume you have better team synergies especially on a world stage, adaptation is a game of respect, if you don't respect something then there is no need to adapt to that something.

  • @mc4ji
    @mc4ji 7 месяцев назад +452

    Onic will dominate the next MSC...
    Onic PH 😂😅

    • @QuantumChrist
      @QuantumChrist 7 месяцев назад

      ew, kelra bayot

    • @bmad1386
      @bmad1386 7 месяцев назад +57

      Their players still need to mature with each other, I see their massive potential, but for now ECHO(loud) is too much for them, and then there's BREN

    • @Plettt
      @Plettt 7 месяцев назад

      they are on par with echo, they won twice close calls with echo. But AP is just another level above bl and echo. #WeOwnThis​@@bmad1386

    • @FinaMLbb
      @FinaMLbb 7 месяцев назад +5

      😂 YOU GOT IT RIGHT

    • @QuantumChrist
      @QuantumChrist 7 месяцев назад

      Keep dreaming 💩

  • @skarra3796
    @skarra3796 7 месяцев назад +16

    AP BREN HAVE PERFECT TEAM SYNERGY.

    • @sparrow3491
      @sparrow3491 7 месяцев назад +1

      Perfection doesn't exist, but better team synergy.

    • @Kaiten-uk8gd
      @Kaiten-uk8gd 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@sparrow3491 Nah.. It's the Best Team Composition for a while...

    • @venture1701
      @venture1701 7 месяцев назад

      They definitely learned frm Blacklist and received advice and tips from them

    • @venture1701
      @venture1701 7 месяцев назад

      Ap bren's approach to the game is more team and macro-based onic is mechanical

  • @itzfritzy2002
    @itzfritzy2002 7 месяцев назад +20

    3:06 Look at Sanz face he got humiliated so bad he can't sleep for 2 months lmao

    • @Sanzzzzzzzzz
      @Sanzzzzzzzzz 7 месяцев назад +6

      He's always like that

    • @itzfritzy2002
      @itzfritzy2002 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Sanzzzzzzzzz No

    • @bandotza
      @bandotza 7 месяцев назад

      During that match he was unwell and getting fever because of cold weather, you know its does not make him bad even if he lose to bren countless and your humanity is worse than a pig

    • @tripsntricks5872
      @tripsntricks5872 7 месяцев назад +5

      The TP boy SANZ with his Lylia in the last game became a minion😂

    • @Shiryuoftherain23
      @Shiryuoftherain23 7 месяцев назад +3

      tp trial card expired

  • @qxezwcs
    @qxezwcs 7 месяцев назад +11

    Coach Yeb will adapt. He understand how Ph play. He is from Ph after all. Onic is still the only Indo team that can stand toe to toe to Ph teams all thanks to Coach Yeb.

    • @Chrollo17th
      @Chrollo17th 7 месяцев назад

      Yeb can not adapt if it's players can't adapt. There is
      limitations in adapting. Get rid of butt@s and u can still hope. But if but@s and water boi is still in BOBOnic, no hope for them

    • @riri2803
      @riri2803 7 месяцев назад

      Yeb is not in PH anymore. That's the difference.

    • @qxezwcs
      @qxezwcs 7 месяцев назад

      @@riri2803 you’re just a hater

    • @riri2803
      @riri2803 7 месяцев назад

      @@qxezwcs
      Prove me wrong.

  • @fatiswealth7865
    @fatiswealth7865 3 месяца назад +1

    After the first round of MSC 2024, the other region really caught up at a scary speed

  • @tylergomez7673
    @tylergomez7673 7 месяцев назад +6

    Onic needs competition. Other teams in Indo are not catching up to their level yet. They need to scrim more with PH teams.

    • @JamjamDanoso
      @JamjamDanoso 7 месяцев назад

      Scrims can't do big impact on pro scene it's just a test trat. They need a good plan to beat ap bren in early objectives set up. That's why they focus to wreck butss to get the early objectives and snowball

  • @riyan.adam.
    @riyan.adam. 7 месяцев назад +3

    2:30 CW was like : "i dont care guys, im gonna put my headpiece and chill. i dont deserve this bullshit"

    • @Chrollo17th
      @Chrollo17th 7 месяцев назад +1

      It shows he don't care about the team struggle. It shows how immature they are if they r not competing.

  • @zeddd.7537
    @zeddd.7537 7 месяцев назад +6

    The overhyped vs the silent killer

  • @cedricalonzo8025
    @cedricalonzo8025 7 месяцев назад +5

    Look at what Bren had done in this Team.. 😂😂😂

  • @aponisuka
    @aponisuka 7 месяцев назад +6

    If ONIC is the best team in Indo right now, then good luck. PH just elevated the game to a whole new level again.

    • @jeju6892
      @jeju6892 7 месяцев назад +1

      You're actin like other ph teams can beat Onic lol. Ap Bren is their only kryptonite

    • @aponisuka
      @aponisuka 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@jeju6892 of course other PH teams can. lol

    • @clarksteel6297
      @clarksteel6297 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@jeju6892bro acting like 25-0 RSG aint real. Also, did karltzy die? If not, im betting at least 3 teams in PH beating onic

    • @akwodimplesweirakssqlot
      @akwodimplesweirakssqlot 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@jeju6892Onic has lost to numerous PH teams in the past. They lost to Echo in M4, Blacklist in M3, and even got thrown out by a random team in MSC 2022, in which they placed last out of everyone btw. Aside from the recent MSC where they finally won, they always choke in in the world stage where it matters the most. What makes you think other PH teams cannot beat them?

  • @merxellus1456
    @merxellus1456 7 месяцев назад +3

    Damn… This is what actual professionals team looks like… when losing, no ones pointing out anyones fault, they motivate them to be better..
    I look at N.A. and bruh its a joke

    • @Chrollo17th
      @Chrollo17th 7 месяцев назад

      They have just accepted that they can't beat BREN. They will just waste tears haha

  • @Shiryuoftherain23
    @Shiryuoftherain23 7 месяцев назад +3

    bren was in downfall after even in mpl after karltzy left..now they know there weakness

  • @fatiswealth7865
    @fatiswealth7865 7 месяцев назад +4

    At this point it dosent matter who wins, many are looking forward to a battle between Onic ID and Onic PH! 😁

  • @dambalasektv1
    @dambalasektv1 7 месяцев назад +1

    They did good it's just that PH MACRO leveled one once more after M5. I can't explain it in full details but the overall map awareness of PH in this tournament is outstanding. If they are serious about winning, they should consider having 1 to 2 months bootcamp in the Philippines where regular RANKED players can literally beat other regions.

  • @SdzyzBlitz
    @SdzyzBlitz 7 месяцев назад +8

    0:30 kiboy hands...

    • @Chrollo17th
      @Chrollo17th 7 месяцев назад

      What is there to see??? Hahaha. So he better quit now hahahahahahaha

    • @SmokeyandTheGang
      @SmokeyandTheGang 4 месяца назад

      get money first 😂​@@Chrollo17th

  • @Mjea717
    @Mjea717 7 месяцев назад +3

    bawat isang myembro ng BREN malawak heropool sila pansin ko kc bilang lang hero di gaya bren nang gugulat sa draft bigla sabay pa ng bagong rotation na mahilis at effective bawat combo ng draft picks..😅

  • @itastegood_
    @itastegood_ 7 месяцев назад +21

    Adi tried soooo harrrddddd to be relevant holy shi

    • @red8776
      @red8776 7 месяцев назад

      LMAO! You said it perfectly bro.

    • @SmokeyandTheGang
      @SmokeyandTheGang 4 месяца назад

      lmaooo, but in reality/off cam he's part of the family ❤

  • @ToyotaHonda-ol6sb
    @ToyotaHonda-ol6sb 7 месяцев назад +8

    Onic already hitting the ceilings and and apbren just keep getting stronger . People thought no one can beat onic and people keeps feeding onic players ego and apbren just humbled this team.

  • @Blabla-lq4nm
    @Blabla-lq4nm 7 месяцев назад +7

    Coach adi: "cause if our hero is strong, their hero is strong too" we show them our mechanics win ahead.
    Bren: Even with fast hands and pressing the button you won't win against us.

  • @baphometrag7751
    @baphometrag7751 7 месяцев назад +1

    April 6 the big match! the two strongest team
    ECHO VS APBREN watch guys

  • @bigknees123
    @bigknees123 7 месяцев назад +2

    mann Sanz looks so sick in that Final

    • @FclssGaming
      @FclssGaming 7 месяцев назад

      He enjoyed winter so much😂

  • @jcatz8819
    @jcatz8819 7 месяцев назад +3

    That huddle after game 2 shows why Indo teams keep on losing to ph teams. Adi saying "If anyone wants to go all just go, we show them our mechanics to win ahead". When will they realize that you can't beat PH simply by just mechanics? Goodluck Indo, looks like your playstyle wont allow you to win a world championship anytime soon specially now the rest of the world is catching up.

    • @ghnkv
      @ghnkv 7 месяцев назад +1

      PH is better at them at mechanic and macro. ID become complacent and over proud saying they have better mechanic. I guess PH teams are just doing reverse psychology to them or being humbled. PH players are mechanically gifted with higher IQ in games. That’s what makes them better.

  • @josephinfinity2553
    @josephinfinity2553 7 месяцев назад +4

    Onic ID already lost that Gof tournament the moment they let Albert play as MM instead of CW.

    • @sparrow3491
      @sparrow3491 7 месяцев назад

      Bruh..just for that one bush mistake? Stop blaming

    • @gracebl2162
      @gracebl2162 7 месяцев назад

      @@sparrow3491 onic should stick to the MSC roster . CW is more experienced MM than Albert. The problem is Butts, getting mental blocked when facing Flaptzy. Butts always losing his lane and always behind. If Flaptzy, Ogwen, Kyletzy vs Kairi in the Lord Fight. Kairi can’t get near to the Lord or turtle. The Adi pushing Albert in the main line up, when CW got better chemistry with the Onic line up. Adi try to experiment but failed

    • @jabbieperalta2469
      @jabbieperalta2469 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@sparrow3491 woah! What a comment! Isn't that the words we are telling you guys when Kairi was forced to check the bush in M5 because there's no other member who could do that?

    • @josephinfinity2553
      @josephinfinity2553 7 месяцев назад

      @@sparrow3491 I'm not even talking about that, and yet you jump straight away to that lol.
      I'm talking about not letting CW play, it creates a wall between CW and the management. And your also ruining the built up chemistry between your team.

  • @jtee9011
    @jtee9011 7 месяцев назад +2

    apbren can be aggressive like onic and can be as disciplined as prime blacklist, theyre kinda hard to beat to be honest because it looks like apbren has their numbers...

    • @rampage4695
      @rampage4695 7 месяцев назад

      and also wide heropool

  • @lazara801
    @lazara801 7 месяцев назад +4

    Sanz face was hilarous 😂😂😂

  • @neidawnkom6973
    @neidawnkom6973 7 месяцев назад +2

    Now onic gonna feel scared of their failures when they face Bren again .

  • @DorkNamedHope
    @DorkNamedHope 7 месяцев назад

    @1:41 mechanics don't win games, team play does.

  • @jeanfrancisco610
    @jeanfrancisco610 7 месяцев назад +2

    That Balmond Recall eh don't do that anymore

  • @hexflash.
    @hexflash. 7 месяцев назад +5

    top 5 greatest mLbb players of all time:
    karltzy
    Pheww
    Flap
    Vee
    wise
    achievement says it all, these 5 is beyond great. also top 6 to top 15 are all Filipinos too.

    • @Chrollo17th
      @Chrollo17th 7 месяцев назад

      What the heck haha. Vee wise??? Who has been decoded? Who chooses to not play bcoz they know they can't keep up with echo bren and RSG hahaha. Top 5 player is 5 brens player and karltzy

    • @hexflash.
      @hexflash. 7 месяцев назад

      @@Chrollo17th are you mad? Of course they are past their prime already. Unlike the others veewise literally has seagames gold,
      MSc runner up,
      M3 world champion,
      3x MPLPh(strongest region) champion,
      M4 runner up.
      Dude you can't even give another players who has more achievement than vee and Wise other than karltzy, pheww and Flap.

    • @Chrollo17th
      @Chrollo17th 7 месяцев назад

      @@hexflash. Past their prime??? How Abt the original bren of m2??? U r just delusional hahahahaha. Past prime ampotek haha.

    • @hvusnzl
      @hvusnzl 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@hexflash. I don't think they're past their prime yet. It's sad that they aren't playing, especially with the adjustments and improvements of support heroes. They could totally dominate again. Let's hope they play again next season.

    • @hvusnzl
      @hvusnzl 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@Chrollo17thIf you look at VeeWise's accomplishments and the pride and recognition they took home for PH, it's no doubt they're part of the best MLBB players. They redefined how we play the game, even shifted the meta.

  • @kai-iv5qz
    @kai-iv5qz 7 месяцев назад +3

    Onic ID Delulu moments 🤣🤣🤣

  • @jessejames8901
    @jessejames8901 7 месяцев назад

    What ID needs right now is a serious competition in MPL ID. For the past 3 seasons, Onic is the champion and if its not Onic then its RRQ. And its seems that Onic will be champs again this season 13. While in MPL PH, the past three seasons have 3 different 3 champion teams, BLCK, ECHO AND AP BREN. Other MPL ID teams needsnto step up

  • @fritzgunthertuliao3203
    @fritzgunthertuliao3203 7 месяцев назад +41

    How true Sanz is sick and isn't in good shape in their finals match?

    • @pancitcanton6350
      @pancitcanton6350 7 месяцев назад +10

      Just look at his face.

    • @StudentG-y8x
      @StudentG-y8x 7 месяцев назад +39

      Balmond is not used to cold climate

    • @Larnn_mlbb9
      @Larnn_mlbb9 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@StudentG-y8xNoo😂

    • @Renz1218
      @Renz1218 7 месяцев назад +14

      That's why ap bren got their vacation to japan before GOF so that they can adjust to the cold weather in Russia. Mindset is the key.

    • @hanahaki2024
      @hanahaki2024 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@StudentG-y8xthat is so mean bro, but that was funny too 😂

  • @VirgilioKins
    @VirgilioKins 7 месяцев назад +1

    ONIC MENTALLY FUCKED UP😢

  • @mtqsol2
    @mtqsol2 7 месяцев назад +1

    No Offense To Onic Fans Out There We cant deny that onic dominated many of the tournaments out there but with the current meta theyre nothing but an ordinary player its just like an evolution those who cant adapt, dies they have to do something about this

  • @kimvieng3537
    @kimvieng3537 7 месяцев назад

    when onic is defeating everybody and focusing on teams like echo and blacklist they did not notice that they are making a monster that will haunt them because the coaches reveal before the m series happen bren is onics scrim partner most likely apbren learn the crack on their armor

  • @spicymidnights
    @spicymidnights 7 месяцев назад

    I remember when roger federer lost to nadal, nadal got into his psyche and struggles to win versus him every time... This is a phase.. hopefully onic will breakthrough and surpass this challenge ...

  • @Negativity-9
    @Negativity-9 7 месяцев назад +2

    They hired the best gold laner,, Albert🤣🤣🤣

  • @favsonghits4037
    @favsonghits4037 7 месяцев назад +1

    what coach Duckey says is, players in Indo have already huge good money in d pockets, while Ph teams hungry lions, badly needed it, a no choice but ladies choice " if u want a good payday, u need to fuckn destroy those teams like u need to kill to eat " andddd thats it....Ph Team Apbren won...

  • @mugiwara786
    @mugiwara786 7 месяцев назад

    I love seeing Sanz looked like that 🥹😂

  • @warrenjameslabadlabad9370
    @warrenjameslabadlabad9370 7 месяцев назад +2

    Told yahh there is no ending of PH era

  • @johnhamiltonthegoat69
    @johnhamiltonthegoat69 7 месяцев назад +2

    Kyletzy is just better utility jungler than kairi and flaptzy is just built different thats why apbren dominates early game easily

  • @vahnseymour150
    @vahnseymour150 7 месяцев назад +1

    Adi just felt embarrassed, after talking so much abt winning a lot of trophy...
    Just when he thought Onic could bring him to that last final trophy into his portfolio career but end up failing miserably...
    Maybe learn to be humble first before raising that final trophy...

  • @CiciiOfficial
    @CiciiOfficial 7 месяцев назад +19

    Why they didn't let CW play? 😢

    • @dafihr8901
      @dafihr8901 7 месяцев назад

      CW Sick

    • @ritsukafj
      @ritsukafj 7 месяцев назад +1

      iirc he was sick

    • @fr1st_wzf
      @fr1st_wzf 7 месяцев назад

      You're sick ​@@dafihr8901

    • @Chrollo17th
      @Chrollo17th 7 месяцев назад +10

      Reason for being sick is just a lame excuse again. U haven't heard that kind of reasoning in brens gameplay. Flap always blame himself and comeback so that's the difference between this overhype team vs true champions

    • @spikeyyyyy
      @spikeyyyyy 7 месяцев назад

      @@Chrollo17th WTF are u talking about? Are u illiterate?

  • @Soda-c1e8h
    @Soda-c1e8h 7 месяцев назад

    I know it hurts to say this but they will never be the same again, PH are different breed and can never be replaced anymore

  • @rafhlagarde3311
    @rafhlagarde3311 7 месяцев назад

    History repeats it self. Yeb and Kairi always encountered their opposing team that beaten them
    Onic ph ----) Blacklist
    Onic Id ----) Ap Bren

  • @okhita
    @okhita 7 месяцев назад

    And Now yawi is in indo, one word. GOODLUCK

  • @johncook_
    @johncook_ 7 месяцев назад +3

    You know what's wrong with Onic? They fail to improve and innovate. Yes, they are strong, but they can not keep on doing the same things and expect different result. Teams are keeping up with them. Clearly, teams have started decoding them. They should learn from Blacklist International. Teams are able to figure out how to counter UBE strat.
    Be creative ONIC ID. Don't be afraid to make changes.

  • @kyoshiiiii_
    @kyoshiiiii_ 7 месяцев назад +1

    They could’ve done better if they let CW play rather than Alberttt. He can’t control his nervousness when in verge of defeat, just look how he rattles everytime.

  • @reality4861
    @reality4861 7 месяцев назад

    @1:32 that's not the right mindset to just go looking for fight, create openings and weakness, macro over micro and fight only the winning battle.

  • @BLinX神
    @BLinX神 7 месяцев назад +1

    Lack of competition in MPL ID, their second best team was freakin Geek Fam and was able to snatch 2 games from them in Finals. lol. Ofcourse Bren ez diff Onic. Bren was constantly grinding against Blacklist, Echo and RSG PH.

    • @D1Grandmaster
      @D1Grandmaster 7 месяцев назад

      Well said 👏 Mpl Id got no competition at all compared to Mpl Ph

  • @MadaraxUchiha
    @MadaraxUchiha 7 месяцев назад +1

    Yeah they're still afraid to fight AP Bren, imagine losing to them in M5 just for them to lose against AP Bren again in GoF
    Onic needs to sharpen their mentality so they can beat AP Bren. Hopefully they can defend their MSC title this year! Worst comes to worst, they face AP Bren again in MSC and they will fail to defend their MSC title lol

    • @NopeGaming556
      @NopeGaming556 7 месяцев назад +1

      But kiboy wants his revenge so bad 😭😭😭😂

    • @MadaraxUchiha
      @MadaraxUchiha 7 месяцев назад

      @@NopeGaming556 how many times he said he wants revenge but still lose to AP Bren? Onic needs to get stronger and play better than AP Bren if they want to be champions in international again lol

    • @Chrollo17th
      @Chrollo17th 7 месяцев назад

      U know what, if they accept that they should replace butt@s they will have hope. But the thing is, BOBOnic is like echo, they can't replace butt@s or jaypee haha

  • @sprazini3014
    @sprazini3014 7 месяцев назад +6

    ONIC 🔥
    March 19, 2024

  • @Demoninst
    @Demoninst 7 месяцев назад

    Asian teams when they're winning: 🤡🤪😜🤫
    When they lose: 😓😥😢😷
    That's pure Karma
    (Yes I watched VCT Valorant and was disgusted by asian teams)

  • @charlottesphie7037
    @charlottesphie7037 7 месяцев назад

    -1 map is unforgiven. People will talk wether you like it or not.

  • @VoydVelasco
    @VoydVelasco 7 месяцев назад +1

    They need a better competition in their MPL.

    • @Chrollo17th
      @Chrollo17th 7 месяцев назад

      They need to get rid of but@s and water boi.

  • @diegofernandez-prada2229
    @diegofernandez-prada2229 7 месяцев назад

    Man Kairi face 3:30 is just... idk he looks he is gone at that time but also about to lose it cause his mate talking as if it's too easy to achieve it is true if they give 120% they can beat other teams its not impossible but ffs give your man a break 😂

  • @Annih1lated
    @Annih1lated 7 месяцев назад

    The difference of Adis' pep talk and Yeb's pep talk post-match is uhmm, nevermind

  • @Steventroy09
    @Steventroy09 7 месяцев назад

    They didn’t even cry anymore, at that point they were just used to losing to AP BREN that they just accepted their fate and that bren was the better team LMAOOOO, and then next tournament they won’t just be facing AP BREN, but ECHO will be there too which is a team Indonesians fear the most LOLLLL

    • @Cutie-k4n
      @Cutie-k4n 4 месяца назад

      They cannot defend their title in msc 2024😅 i fell bad for onic

  • @krulemloy
    @krulemloy 7 месяцев назад

    the different between ph and indo is ph team literally all strong not just one raising there always next team can take the champions and indo if there strong team. that team only gonna be strong for some season until they have next raising team

  • @GelgogMarine
    @GelgogMarine 6 месяцев назад +1

    So FlapTzy said that "Indo era is over" is reality, right?

    • @Chrollo17th
      @Chrollo17th 6 месяцев назад +2

      There is no such thing as Indo era. Mas boring kayo kalaban

  • @Chrollo17th
    @Chrollo17th 7 месяцев назад

    Being delusional will not help you win. Its time to accept facts. Butt@s should r3tire. Kairi is now scared of being aggressive bcoz he is only one to blame (they cant even blame the waterboy). Kiboloy is just a regular roamer, cant step up when he is needed the most. Balmond is now making excuses if he lose. They even play waterboy compare to 4 3yes so they have reason when they lose

    • @KenjouKiri
      @KenjouKiri 7 месяцев назад

      Nah you're clearly a bandwagon by just looking at it your the type of guy who ever wins the m series is now my favourite lol btw ang dugyot mo HAHAHAHAH

  • @nathz2020
    @nathz2020 7 месяцев назад

    They need to be more matured, adopt always new meta, build chemistry, and professionals

  • @pingerfrints6716
    @pingerfrints6716 7 месяцев назад

    If you ban Faramis,you should also ban Gloo which Indo doesnt do,thats why Butts underperform.

  • @b4sque
    @b4sque 7 месяцев назад +1

    Why did cw not play😂

  • @mahmanmah
    @mahmanmah 7 месяцев назад +1

    the fact that they dont have proper competitors in indo made them believe they can take down any team globally. their mental strength still isnt that strong, especially when they meet proper competitor like Bren.

    • @rampage4695
      @rampage4695 7 месяцев назад

      they got almost beaten by blacklist in m5 but luckily they comeback and dominated blacklist in game 5

  • @tianv.f.soktavian5919
    @tianv.f.soktavian5919 7 месяцев назад

    What i see from Ph they All in For his Career But in indo Even they win M1 2 of 5 player Oura Dongkey Have been married Have A child And Retirement I still Believe Oura Is good But hes priority Change Unlike Flaptzy

  • @rbtvccbyb
    @rbtvccbyb 7 месяцев назад

    They didn't play 24 hours they played 25/8

  • @k4m1kazep1lot4
    @k4m1kazep1lot4 7 месяцев назад +1

    The problem is ONIC is afraid of Bren they lose their confidence when they get on the stage. As far as i know kiboy was the chill one when it comes to taunting their opponent (with constant recalls) crazy conceal play and initiation but, when they are against Bren he always seems lost. i dont think they are less skilled than ap bren i think they need to work on their mentality

  • @stomatahatachi
    @stomatahatachi 7 месяцев назад

    Why CW does not played here?

    • @lemmings3789
      @lemmings3789 7 месяцев назад

      even CW played still AP Bren won 100%😂😂

    • @BLinX神
      @BLinX神 7 месяцев назад +1

      Poor scrim results compared to Albertt. But he played in laser tag afterwards and still lost to Bren.

  • @Badget007
    @Badget007 7 месяцев назад

    Let's be honest, Albertt really played bad here. Your roamer is on the red buff bush providing vision so you don't get flanked while him using a Wanwan proceeds to face check a single bush knowing Beatrix is missing and not even using 1st skill.

  • @sparklingcutie
    @sparklingcutie 7 месяцев назад

    CW was really still playing good at that time. I do know that Onic just wanted to let Alberttt play so he didn't waste his skill. Although altogether, costed their entire run.

    • @sheesh6085
      @sheesh6085 7 месяцев назад +1

      But based on mirko albert is playing better than cw in scrim lol. Even this mpl id, onic looks stronger with albert than cw based on their recent matches.

    • @gracebl2162
      @gracebl2162 7 месяцев назад

      @@sheesh6085 in crucial match scrim result is not only the basis. A lot of Indo players good on scrim but play lousy on actual game

    • @sheesh6085
      @sheesh6085 7 месяцев назад

      @@gracebl2162 well not like cw will do any difference, Bren is just too strong.

    • @jeju6892
      @jeju6892 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@sheesh6085 he would surely make a difference. They literally got stomped with Albert

    • @sheesh6085
      @sheesh6085 7 месяцев назад

      @@jeju6892 it will not make any difference with cw, bren already adapted onic and that's what scary about ph teams they learn fast. Look at their battle in m5 although it took 7 games, all of bren wins are all stomped within 14 mins mark while all onic wins are struggle.

  • @hexflash.
    @hexflash. 7 месяцев назад +2

    Philippines is way stronger than other regions because Ph has so many play styles and identity.
    Echo Express known for it's aggressiveness and mechanical outplays.
    Blacklist UBE known for effective use of utility, lord dance and macro adaptation.
    ApBren known for perfect set ups, perfect execution and perfect drafting
    RsgPh known for smart movements, itemization, and over extended tradings.
    Indo doesn't have these things, they only have one play style, it's do or die. they fight and fight and fight and hope they get the objectives and win

  • @jaironricbalais2765
    @jaironricbalais2765 7 месяцев назад

    MPL PH is the ultimate battlefield for world champions. Unarguably💯

  • @ianricked1568
    @ianricked1568 7 месяцев назад +2

    im mythical honor from indonesia and wanna know how ph players are so good..

    • @D1Grandmaster
      @D1Grandmaster 7 месяцев назад +1

      It's because MPL ID got no competition at all compared to MPL PH. In MPL PH, AP BREN gets to go against Blacklist, Echo, ONIC PH and RSG PH.

    • @rampage4695
      @rampage4695 7 месяцев назад +1

      i already experience playing in both region but i would say there are some good indo players but ph players are just much more intelligent than indo players when it comes to the game and the comeback probability is much higher in ph server

    • @jabbieperalta2469
      @jabbieperalta2469 7 месяцев назад

      Bro the secret is to watch mpl ph, you'll learn about the meta what heroes should you ban, pick, or take advantage of. You'll discover a techniques, strategy, macro, and etc. And don't forget to think that you're always ahead of your enemies, always keep in mind that you're better than your opponents. If you made a mistake don't do it again. Find a way to always improve your skills. Keep soaring don't be consistent.

    • @therizzler777
      @therizzler777 7 месяцев назад

      ah, you're legend 3 here then 😂😂

  • @lestyr4171
    @lestyr4171 7 месяцев назад +2

    INDO really believes they have better mechanics than PH😅. Just because they play aggressively doesn’t mean they have better mechanics. PH is way superior in Micro and Macro. It shows every match. INDO is pure aggressiveness.

    • @IMPORTNESIA
      @IMPORTNESIA 7 месяцев назад

      Haha yeah indo is very delusional they think they have the best mechanics in mllb . Ive watched mpl indo since kairi trasnfer to onic. bro i don't even see a player from indo who can do switch item perfectly in the clash to avoid death .only kairi can do that in mpl indo and they still think they better MECHANICS than ph players hahahah 😂😂😂😂

  • @emithungmozhui4305
    @emithungmozhui4305 7 месяцев назад +6

    Yoyo

  • @somerandomotaku8444
    @somerandomotaku8444 7 месяцев назад +1

    Pov.
    Flaptzy : 14 hrs 24 hrs.?ive been there😂 36 hrs stream playing ml😂😂

  • @realtalk0528
    @realtalk0528 7 месяцев назад

    I remember coach chot reyes, learning experience😂

  • @krizzya4462
    @krizzya4462 7 месяцев назад

    Geez Bren is like GOD in Mlbb,
    "The other region must be disappointed to see this kind of intense Game" _ Wolf
    APBREN VS Blacklist intense game in S13

    • @OxygenC2
      @OxygenC2 7 месяцев назад

      As long as BL don't have veewise, Fireflux will beat them again

    • @Greeeyt
      @Greeeyt 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@OxygenC2as long as there is a Filipino team in a major tournament or in an official moonton tournament, Indonesia will always lose to them.

    • @rampage4695
      @rampage4695 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@OxygenC2blacklist win 5 times against fireflux while fireflux win just 4 times

    • @OxygenC2
      @OxygenC2 7 месяцев назад

      @@rampage4695 5v4 is a rivalry. In theory that means FF is on the same tier as the top 4 PH teams like Onic.

    • @pepenguyen5321
      @pepenguyen5321 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@OxygenC2not at all. The players in gotf for blacklist is new that's why they play messy

  • @harmlesslyeccentric5117
    @harmlesslyeccentric5117 7 месяцев назад +2

    They need to replace butts

    • @oscarmarella5720
      @oscarmarella5720 7 месяцев назад +1

      Unfortunately the one who can change replace him isn't recovery yet (R7)

    • @amirulmukmin3534
      @amirulmukmin3534 7 месяцев назад

      @@oscarmarella5720Even if r7 recover i dont think he will go to onic

    • @free_2play
      @free_2play 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@oscarmarella5720i dont think theres an indo exp laner right now that could match up with ph exp laners, like the gap between the two is just too wide.

    • @riri2803
      @riri2803 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@free_2play
      Yes. The top 4 EXP laners in the world are the top 4 EXP laners in PH.

  • @jadepedida8700
    @jadepedida8700 7 месяцев назад +2

    well stop the speeches and do the actual coaching... tell the players what they did wrong,, what they must do.. what strat they will execute.. your coaches,, not motivational speakers for crying out loud.. these players are not unmotivated... they need strategies which is the coach's job.. coaches should be like,, ok,, we lost that game,, this is what we do next game.. not give some speeches..