Is Palword BETTER Than Pokemon?
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- With the recent release of the new monster catching survival game Palworld, there has been an UPROAR of discussion regarding its similarities to Pokemon. Will this finally be the game to usurp Pokemon from its throne? Lets talk about that...
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Palworld feels like it broke the pokemon attachment curse for me. Is it perfect? No. Is it amazing? No. But the fact that all it takes to have this great pokemon experience that gives people all this joy is to hit the bare minimum for a video game says a lot about these pokemon games that aren't hitting the minimum. I'm not sure I'll be able to even bother with these anymore
Sounds about right, just as it only takes `one bad day` to cause a massive shift in perspective. Having a new game that effectively flips off a big franchise by doing a genre they were too stingie to ever try ends up causing such a big splash that you KNOW that Pokemon is gonna have to make a spin off or make its next `mainline title` more focused around aspects similar to that.
This is why Legends Arceus & Scarlet/Violet had the TROPES that Breath of the wild started with Paragliding, `real` open world and crafting, even if Scarlet/Violet instead of letting you craft tools out in the field, rather bastardize its TM system after it already made those things permanent in a previous title, just to force a crafting system in place.
Which honestly would of been better if we `gathered materials`, and `turned them in` for points which would have better values depending on the level, its size and a few other factors and we used THOSE to get the majority of support items, including catching tools like bait and so on.
Which is kind of a major shame that Scarlet/Violet`s DLC didnt try to push that approach by seeing the spin off that came before it and freaking banked on the extra months they would have to whip up some DLC to include those as additional features, since the only TWO things that came out of the DLC to drastically change your playthroughs are PERMANENT FLYING (which is lousy as far as im aware of) and the synchro machine (which is more of them just swapping who is the `controlled unit` and slapping a few commands on and thats about it).
So really it doesnt matter if Pal`world dies off after all the freaking hype, its the impression it left that already let it do its impression and you know we are gonna get more monster taming games that will likely pull an Among Us, Slay the Spire and more and make thar own versions of that formula even if they are lazy and likely bully Pokemon even further into the ground to till they have to admit on releasing a spin off or make its next main title to focus on that or get screwed over if they dont REALLY innovate the games, especially after the flop that was scarlet/violet and how much many liked the aspects of legends arceus which had some of the things Palworld had, such as ACTUAL, FREAKING, CRAFTING TOOLS that HELPED WITH CATCHING.
I don’t think it’ll be a Pokémon killer, but considering it’s still in early access and is already doing pretty well, I think that it has the potential to go a long way and stand on its own. A couple of content creators I watch have already been having fun with the game on its own merit, so perhaps Palworld sticking to improving its strong points will help evolve the game to become a respectable franchise.
Basically, my view is that the Pokémon parody aspect draws players in, but its own gameplay and monster-player interactions is what will make players potentially stay. It’s best to view Palworld as Palworld rather than a Pokémon killer. At least, that’s my two cents. XD
Agreed. I definitely think it’s safe to say that it’s not a “Pokémon killer” because that is practically impossible to do. I also think that it’s too early to make predictions about how far this franchise can/will go.
I think/hope it’s going to force the Pokémon company to innovate.
Given that the last mainline Pokémon game was the fastest selling at launch and ended up falling very short of sword and shield (tapering off quickly when people realized that it was a broken mess that was missing features) I think this next game will be a lot slower to sell and probably won’t have as crazy numbers unless we see some major improvements.
I don’t think it’s palworld that will put a dent in Pokémon game sales. I think TPC is doing that themselves. However, the more good alternatives we have for people to play, the more willing people will be to wait for a Pokémon game that meets their standards and the more they will demand out of the Pokémon company.
What Palworld does better:
Scenery looks beautiful
Riding on different Monsters
Catching is like PLA which is fun so I don't blame them at all.
I still gotta play Palworld I unfortunately don't have a PC.😭
Its also on Gamepass if you have an Xbox series S/X, thats how I’ve been playing at least
@@SoulStoryModethat's why it's selling well. It will crash soon people will forget
I don't have a PC or xbox so I can't play it 😭
Yes. It's not hard to be better than Pokemon in its current sorry state.
That's complete nonsense
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Call me when Pokemon fixes the bugs in SV and gives us the Natl Dex back after they lied about why they removed it and still haven't fulfilled their compromise for it. Then you can say my statement is "nonsense", Poketard.
You speaking nothing but facts.
The funny thing is PalWorld is still in beta testing, it's gotten this far without being fully done yet. We'll see how well PalWorld holds our attention. I will say even if it does fade into obscurity like every other competitor of Pokemon at least it's sent a message to Pokemon to get their crap together......hopefully. I'll still play it occasionally in between Pokemon releases.
I’m not paying for it directly because I’m playing on Gamepass, but 30-40 for a beta is bold, but then again, we have Scarlet and Violet, so its a tough argue 😩
Tears of the Kingdom is OVER glorified DLC costing $70, after I beat the game it lost all traction for me since I beat BotW before it. That game was bold for being $70.@@SoulStoryMode
$70 is bold, I can agree with that for sure,
but a completely brand new story, new and fun mechanics that shouldn’t even technically work on a Nintendo switch that changes up the gameplay entirely, over a hundred new shrines all with original puzzles, a re-done overworld with the addition of an entire underground the same size as the original map, on top of touched up graphics and assets…
I just can’t agree that TOTK is a glorified DLC 😭
The story wasn't as great with how you receive the memories it would've been better if Link had gone back in time with Zelda and she was a companion where you stop Ganondorf right then and there, saving Sonia from dying, preventing Rauru from sacrificing himself AND be able to prevent millennials worth of damage to Hyrule.
Plus they push the Zonai in our face but barely gave us any lore about them as well as removing Sheika tech so that way "you didn't have to play BotW" to play TotK, I say nonsense.
I will take Majora's Mask which allows me to BECOME the different races, endure harsh dungeons, cry at the stories, and everything else over some new fangled mechanics that I could care less about.
That's what Nintendo is missing they worry about gameplay first and unfortunately story writing suffers since they don't put much effort into that depending on the game, hell Twilight Princess and Spirit Tracks are better in that regard.@@SoulStoryMode
Game wise:100%
Nostalgia wise:not even close
Nostalgia is a shallow thing. Of course a game that came out a month ago is not gonna dig into your brain like a game from 30 years ago does. Even then, PalWorld is gonna start being nostalgic to some people in several years' time.
@DrCoeloCephalo Will it have the impact on franchises like Pokémon did? I don’t think so. I do think it will have great impact on many other games to be developed though
For most platforms except Nintendo & playstation.... let's correct that statement...
No, not yet at least but they’re both good games. I enjoy turn based battling, strategy and story but don’t enjoy crafting and building much so that’s just my opinion. If the game was more like Pokémon than Ark I’d be having more fun with it. I mostly just like how similar the monster designs are 😂
Summed up my video in a comment man 😭
@@SoulStoryModearound the 2:40 mark what song is that called?
@@SoulStoryMode we’re just one in the same 🤝😭
I like it. I thought it wasn't too deep at girst but then I hit some very difficult bosses and rare pals. Upgrading them takes planning and the breeding system is really fun and interesting
The nuanced appeal of Palworld transcends the notion of merely being a superior alternative to Pokémon. Instead, it strategically addresses an untapped space in the PC and console market that Game Freak may be unable, or contractually bound, to explore. The evident success of Palworld underscores the untapped potential for Pokémon to thrive on PC, exposing a void that has long gone unaddressed.
Palworld caters to the desires of a discerning audience, presenting an engaging experience that Pokémon has yet to capitalize on. While aspects of the game, such as its survival mechanics and creature-catching mechanics reminiscent of Pokémon Arceus, may draw parallels, Palworld introduces a fresh perspective. Arceus, restrained by the limitations of its platform, could have ventured further with the support of a more powerful console.
The contractual ties between Pokémon and Nintendo, while longstanding, inadvertently alienate a considerable player base. The exclusivity to Nintendo devices leaves a significant portion of players desiring a PC gaming experience. As one such player, Palworld has fulfilled my expectations, offering a compelling alternative. While it may not usurp Pokémon's legacy, it serves as a noteworthy reminder that the industry giant should pay heed to evolving player preferences and market dynamics. The game's enduring impact may not be an outright 'Pokémon killer,' but it certainly prompts a valuable introspection for the Pokémon franchise
The thing I want most to come out of this whole situation is the improvement of the Pokemon franchise. Hopefully Palworld hits The Pokemon Company with a wake-up slap and shows them that even a relatively unknown entity can be very successful if they make a halfway decent game. Imagine what they could do if they applied the effort and polish that an empire like Pokemon deserves! While we patiently wait for that to happen, Palworld is kinda fun to play in the meantime.
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Yyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssss.
Easy answer, yes. The polish, the care of how mechanics were built and that it's actually fun to play. Something gamefreak lost sight of
Legends Arceus is lightyears way more polished than Palword which is Early Acess. Yes, Palworld is better than the dumpster fire of Sword&Shield, maybe gen 9, but pokémon in general? I don't like hype trains.
Totally agree, resource gathering games in general really don't interest me much. The closest thing I've ever played is Subnautica and I just did the bare minimum to get from point a to point b, even looking up speedrun strats for the deepest areas because I didn't feel like crafting the extra depth modules and the machine you need just to make them. Would be nice if they interwove the story through the lore like they did in Subnautica because I do really like the catching and battle mechanics for palworld, I just need some larger goal to work towards that feels more concrete than simple resource accumulation and base building
I have no interest in Palworld, but if it gives gamefreak some healthy competition so they can make better games, I'm all for it.
Never been a fan of these types of games and I also think by June this game will fade away. Other than dealing with the annoyance, TPC is going to continue releasing unfinished trash after unfinished trash. Right now, Palworld is like AEW is to WWE. WWE been ass for a very long time and people thought AEW would push Vince (now TKO) to make the product as good as it was in the 80s (Golden era) and late 90s (attitude era). Pokemon is WWE in this case, it's too big to fail. Anything short of everyone in TPC, GF being baby rapers is not going to bring down the franchise.
Digimon literally let you evovle your monsters and they got pretty big. I mean i still see digimon. Palworld might be able to get to their level if they do more than a game. They aren't tho. Jus like any other game like this it'll jus be there that's all. Mmorpg games work better than survival. A pokemon game like final fantasy 14 world work out better than a survival game.
it is better than Pokemon, considering it has much smaller budget and even smaller team. But what will happen in the future, totally depends on the Dev team.
"I love playing Palworld with my friends!"
Okay, but what's it like solo? Because as far as i understand it, some of the raid bosses can't be beaten without a group and the game is a drag without friends. And seeing as 90% of Pokémon fans are introverts... Yet another divide.
Exactly, the multiplayer aspect is nice, but once that hype wears down and friends stop playing it, I just can’t see myself getting back into it alone 😭😭
@@SoulStoryMode I like what you mentioned about story, too. Pokémon has established lore and story, even in the games that lack some of that. They also have an in-depth battling system. Palworld doesn't have that, and what they do plan to add will just be Tekken in third person or COD.
Put 50+ hours onto it solo its way more fun solo for me compared to pokemon thats for sure
If new pokemon games were created by genius sonority, I bet they would come close to palworld
Can't see how its even comparable when palworld has zero pvp. And looking into it the devs explain they still havent figired put how pvp will work...how they figure it out wothout making it janky. I cant see the pvp being competitive at all
Palworld will have PvP later down the line according to their road map along with extra islands.
They also already released an update I think this week (I downloaded it today) addressing some issues.
While I do agree that there isn’t a story in Palworld specifically, comparing it to Pokemon (which for most of the games outside of SV, Gen 5 and SM don’t have a huge story) is not a very compelling argument. There are other games that literally make the story in Pokemon seem like a joke in terms of complexity.
Sorry but unlike every other pokemon killer that barely sell half a pokemon game this one in 2 weeks sold 20m which is what gen9 sold in 1 year. FINALLY something is gonna kill Pokemon!
Comparing lego fortnite to palworld has got to be a crime lol
They are already working on a card game. Also you have to give Palworld time if they keep supporting it then it could get up there with pokemon. You cant play pokemon on PC or Xbox, so the market is there. They don't have to beat pokemon. They just have to establish a fan based on platforms pokemon hasn't reach yet.
If the developers support this game correctly I can see this being another Fortnite. No other pay game I think of that was popular a month reach the players numbers close to PUBG.
Bro, don’t take this as shade, but I bet you won’t even play 20 games this year, cause I’m sure I won’t lol 😂
Edit: ehhh, maybe that’s just my fault for not having game pass, I just play less games 😅
I’ve got 3 coming up in February alone back to back boss, 20 games is light 😭
Pokemon runs like garbage. Pokemon is LITERALLY made for kids under 12 also though
So is Mario. And look how his big Switch debut went? Pokemon has no excuse.
So is any Nintendo games
I think Palworld getting so much attention from general audiences and Pokemon fans instead of other indie monster taming games like Cassete Beasts and TemTem is telling of how Pokémon's game design as a whole is not good. Pokemon is still being made using the game design from the Game Boy era, which doesn't click with people anymore.
That's not really true though aside from it being turn based, which people like - if it ain't broke don't fix it
And ppl make pikemon rooms all the time based off their Gameboy games. Ppl love that stuff
To be honest I'm not fan off pal world 🌍
I haven't play this game and I don't have plan to play this game for simuler reason that you mention
1. I don't like the idea off pokemon with gun's
2. I don't like survival games
But I agree that pal world did exactly what begs nitendo to do for years
I capchoure collector monster
That looks okay running well having and stuff like that
I don't understand why game freak dasn't try to make grated pokemon game
It's literally the biggest fransic and instead of making good enjoble game the did the same game with very little Chenges and the don't even make look consider any more
For example that may sounds weird but in my opinion the DS games have better look then scarlet and violet and the runs great
Pokemon scarlet for what I have heard have a lot of isuoses
Comparing 30usd to 60usd game that ran like a crap in a single platform. Palworld is not perfect. It lack story and have a minimal lore. However the main battle and open world is what people want in a pokemon game. How the F an indie game able to have a more stable game compare to a bilion dolar franchise. We can forgave gamefreak when they make game for portable devices as gba,nds and 3ds. However nintendo switch is much capable device. Zelda could run good with much better graphic, why pokemon cannot do the same?. Pokemon rn have bored storyline, a minimal gameplay, hand holding difficulties and many more negative. Nintendo manage to dry our wallet with dlc yet the game still run like an ass.
No. The blatant copying leaves a sour taste in my mouth but even then I think it lacks what makes Pokemon special and I dont like the gameplay in general. Quite frankly I think this is a game of the moment, hot right now but in a few months barely anyone will talk about it. At this point i'm honestly tiring of hearing about it. And I think it lacks an identity, it's basically ARK with a bit of Pokemon and Zelda thrown in.
Pokemon could do somethin special. Get rid of the fluff for one game. Make it darker. Sv was a woke game. Male and female should be clear. Take a different approach. Maybe instead of bein a kid we are older and steal a pokeball from a damily memeber. Stumble outside. See some "starters" chuck the ball catch one and jus start our adventure. And we start to meet ppl and build a name for ourselves as we move along. Maybe half way through the game a professor pops up and ask you about your "starter" cause one of them was missin and theyve heard about you since you started to build a name for yaself. Open pokemon up. Palworld is ok but its not a competition for pokemon. Everyone is goin to still buy pokemon goin forwards. Palworld is empty. The ppl hyping it up are jus upset at pokemon.
Nah I wouldn't call s/v a woke game. So, a gym leader looks like a girl? It's not really a new thing for Japan, nor pokemon.
The only "woke" thing about those games is that they they run like an mmo on a crappy internet connection.
I've never played Pokémon so can't speak on that but palworld is phenomenal imo 😁
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Its really bad and boring game. Its just an initial hype also its in steam in less price that's why its selling well. After the initial hype gets over and after Pokemon presents, people will forget about it and the game will crash. The game is just mashup of different games and copying pokemon