I find it kind of sad what happened with Mount Pleasant. They had they're streetcar downgraded to a trolley bus, with most people wanting it to stay, then it was converted to a diesel bus.
With the streetcar on Mount Plesant, we had 24 hour streetcar service. It was also frequent. Replacing it with diesel buses resulted in less frequent service and no all night service.
Mount Pleasant has quite a bit of density and three schools along it, I think a streetcar would definitely still be justified, it could serve all the people that live, work, and go to school on the street and hopefully make it more walkable.
Just a small correction: I state at the beginning that the Eglinton Division is the oldest Trolley Bus division, this is a mistake as the Lansdowne Division started operations in 1947. Eglinton Division is the oldest if you start counting from the original Mount Pleasant bus in 1922, but that route only operated until 1925 so the divisions history isn't continuous.
Your production with added videos enhances your work greatly. Well done! I started my 40-career with TTC in 1970 working on the Lawrence Station construction contract. For a year, I traveled on the 97 Yonge from Eglinton Station to get to my work location at the TTC field office.
I find it odd that both Avenue Road and Mt. Pleasant persists at having two separate routes, even beyond the opening of the Eglinton Crosstown. It's a holdout from using different transit vehicles.
I have noticed the parallel bus bays at Eglinton station for years and I have always wondered why they were designed the way they were. I guess they were designed specifically for Trolly buses? Have you ever considered making a video about the evolution of Eglinton station and its future layout?
I don't think Eglinton's old terminal design had anything to do with the Trolley Buses. I believe it was just a simpler way to organize all of the suburban bus routes that used to stop at the station; at least that was the thinking at the time. Islington and Warden Stations also have a similar bus terminal design for the same reason. Eventually the TTC would realize this bus terminal design wasn't good and would instead use the style we're more familiar with today as its cheaper from both a land and maintenance perspective as well is simpler to install elevators in (install 1 elevator instead of 10).
As a kid I seem to remember Eglinton West station had trolley wiring around the bus bays. But I can't find any info or pictures about any trolley busses there.
It was a queer arrangement it seems. Especially the Yonge trolleybus which could've easily stayed a streetcar and wouldn't have been much different in cost i think. Also 1 Armour Heights must've been the 2nd shortest bus route in the TTCs history after the Winchester bus and being the only bus route to U-Turn at an end point. The residents held back the installation of Bombay loop for WAY too long. On your point about Roe loop not seeing revenue service since 2004, i think that's incorrect as iirc, for a time, 124 Sunnybrook buses were re-routed to it in 2021 or 2022 BTW: What's the name of the music that starts at 11:50?
I find it kind of sad what happened with Mount Pleasant. They had they're streetcar downgraded to a trolley bus, with most people wanting it to stay, then it was converted to a diesel bus.
With the streetcar on Mount Plesant, we had 24 hour streetcar service. It was also frequent. Replacing it with diesel buses resulted in less frequent service and no all night service.
Mount Pleasant has quite a bit of density and three schools along it, I think a streetcar would definitely still be justified, it could serve all the people that live, work, and go to school on the street and hopefully make it more walkable.
Just a small correction: I state at the beginning that the Eglinton Division is the oldest Trolley Bus division, this is a mistake as the Lansdowne Division started operations in 1947. Eglinton Division is the oldest if you start counting from the original Mount Pleasant bus in 1922, but that route only operated until 1925 so the divisions history isn't continuous.
Your production with added videos enhances your work greatly. Well done! I started my 40-career with TTC in 1970 working on the Lawrence Station construction contract. For a year, I traveled on the 97 Yonge from Eglinton Station to get to my work location at the TTC field office.
my work has involved me driving all over Toronto for the past 40 years - lots of changes which your videos have helped to explain - ty METRO6 - 🛸✨
I find it odd that both Avenue Road and Mt. Pleasant persists at having two separate routes, even beyond the opening of the Eglinton Crosstown. It's a holdout from using different transit vehicles.
I was born in 1946 and remember riding them until the end of service 😢
I have noticed the parallel bus bays at Eglinton station for years and I have always wondered why they were designed the way they were. I guess they were designed specifically for Trolly buses? Have you ever considered making a video about the evolution of Eglinton station and its future layout?
I don't think Eglinton's old terminal design had anything to do with the Trolley Buses. I believe it was just a simpler way to organize all of the suburban bus routes that used to stop at the station; at least that was the thinking at the time. Islington and Warden Stations also have a similar bus terminal design for the same reason. Eventually the TTC would realize this bus terminal design wasn't good and would instead use the style we're more familiar with today as its cheaper from both a land and maintenance perspective as well is simpler to install elevators in (install 1 elevator instead of 10).
First!!! Love your videos so much keep it up brother.
Well done, I’m adding a trolley bus 🚎 line in cities skylines in honour of you.
As a kid I seem to remember Eglinton West station had trolley wiring around the bus bays. But I can't find any info or pictures about any trolley busses there.
The 63 Ossington was a trolleybus
The old St-Hubert rotisserie chicken restaurant at 8:44 (which closed down circa 2005).
A Shoppers Drug Mart store now sits on that exact same site.
It was a queer arrangement it seems. Especially the Yonge trolleybus which could've easily stayed a streetcar and wouldn't have been much different in cost i think. Also 1 Armour Heights must've been the 2nd shortest bus route in the TTCs history after the Winchester bus and being the only bus route to U-Turn at an end point. The residents held back the installation of Bombay loop for WAY too long.
On your point about Roe loop not seeing revenue service since 2004, i think that's incorrect as iirc, for a time, 124 Sunnybrook buses were re-routed to it in 2021 or 2022
BTW: What's the name of the music that starts at 11:50?