UA RUBY ‘63 // Stick with the HX Stomp or worth the extra $$$?
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- Опубликовано: 27 дек 2024
- Many people are asking how does the HX Stomp compare to the UA Ruby, and much like any amp emulation it has its pro's and con's. There are a ton of hype videos online currently about the Ruby, but in this video I want to offer up a simple side by side and let you all decide!
I just tried the Ruby, Dream, and Lion. As a long time Helix user, I’m considering switching… especially since they have these as plugins so I can still record direct and make changes to the tone later
I think your finally assessment was spot on. They sounded extremely close. Being a Helix Floor owner I find better amp feel when I disable the IR and run in to the Powercab using the onboard cabs and bringing the volume up on the powercab. It makes all the difference. I have been thinking about building a pedalboard again because I don’t care for the drive pedals on the Helix. Considering a UA or an HX Stomp which honestly has more to offer with many amps and modulation/delays which I do like. Thanks for the video!
I think by adjusting the extra amp parameters on the stomp (Sag, Ripple, Bias), you can tighten up the gain structure to be even closer. I think the Ruby has more definition simply because it’s gain response was tighter. I find that using the Bias and Sag in tandem give great control on the tight/loose feel of an amp. Something the UA doesn’t have to offer!
Definitely agree! The power amp character can really be dialed in via those 3 functions. Especially if you want a super clean amp to break up sooner or vice versa.
Could you be so kind as to explain to me how to use these parameters and how I use them depending on what sound I want to achieve, in Spanish it is very difficult for me to find someone who is clear on this topic. Thank you so much
Great video thanks. 👍I use UA Ruby 63 and Vox BC 112 Cabinet. I absolutely love this combination
Loved this demo and how you didn’t try to match the sounds completely, or just play everything on noon. As a long time stomp box user, I think the UA pedals make the biggest difference for those who want to stick with their individual pedals, NOT spend $1600+ on a good amp, much more on a great mic, and want convenience when playing live and not having to worry about mic placement and making the sound guy happy with stage volumes and everything.
I think the Stomp sounds great as an all-in-one for those who like that approach and that the UA pedals may not make enough of a difference to justify the extra $400. Again, awesome playing and approach to this review!
Thank you! And I think you’re so spot on with that statement too. For the type of guy/gal that needs a simple amp replacement the Ruby can’t be beat. Especially if you’ve already built out a pedalboard.
Thanks again for watching and giving your perspective!
Having owned a stomp and a helix LT, I have moved to the Dream 65 and the Ruby, tonally im sure you can get close but its the feel of the UAFX pedals that has the edge over Helix, only takes a few minutes and you forget its a digital product, also its ready to go, there's no endless tweaking of sag, bias, hi cut and low cut, its a replica of an already amazing original amp.
You did a great work, I always looked for songs like u played on this demo! Thx
Thank you! And I’m glad you found it useful. I feel for me personally when I watch demo videos that have snippets of riffs and songs it’s definitely more helpful than say mindless pentatonic licks.
I also have a 2012 USA Strat in Olympic White and a UAFX Ruby: great video!
They’re great guitars! I got mine in January 2013 as a sale they had going at GC.
I have a UA Ruby and also a 1964 AC-30. As far as I am concerned, the Ruby sounds like the AC. At similar volumes through the same speakers, they are indistinguishable. There's a YT site that demonstrates this in detail.
I heard no improvement from the Stomp over the Ruby. It sounded a little brighter, but you could turn the treble up on the Ruby to match it. I liked the more mid sound of the Ruby as you set it.
Most excellent! If you have the link to the video definitely post it in the comments. The more info the better!
@@chadnathanbenson Rhett Shull "The BIGGEST Amp Shootout I've Ever Tried (UA FX Vs. Real Vintage Amps)"
Excellent vid. Rhet is always right on. I think you'll be amazed at how close UA/FX amp sims are to the real thing. Those guys really did their homework.
Cheers, Chad
I have been looking at the Uafx pedals because I live in a high rise and want to keep my neighbours happy through the day. How does the ruby stack against a real ac30?
I have the hand wired ac30 from 2011 which I love playing, but as anyone who has one of these amps knows, it’s loud. Not a problem for me, but I guess my neighbours don’t like it, though not had any complaints. The important thing for me is capturing the essence of the amp. I also have a helix floor, and though I do like playing it through my boss katana, I can’t stand playing with headphones through the helix, I do play a few softube Marshall plugin with headphones though and enjoy it. Does the ruby really capture the amp well enough you forget you are playing through a pedal?
Though I don't have a specific term for your experience, I'd almost say what you're "missing" is the visceral experience of actual volume from an amp in the room with you. Getting used to the sound of an amp just through headphones takes a little while to acclimate to.
For myself I'd say that even when I play through a real mic'd amp that's isolated to headphones the helix and ruby do a decent job of replicating that experience. I don't know that I necessarily feel like I forget I'm playing through a pedal though. But I'm very used to how an isolated guitar amp sounds just in headphones.
However, and this is just my $.02, but I think you would enjoy a reactive load box with your ac30 much much more. It will allow you to get the amp in the "sweet spot" but at significantly lower volumes, or silent as well.
The UA Ox box is a great option and also Two Notes make some great choices as well.
I would check those out and see if it would be a better solution for you!
@@chadnathanbenson Thanks for responding. I already have the two notes captor x which is great when playing low in the day and also though headphones when it gets later. I maybe in that 1% category here where I live in a 1 bedroom apartment, I work nights, GF sleeps on a night so playing in the bedroom where my amps are isn't an option even with headphones. It is why I got the helix originally.
like you say, the volume is definitely something I miss feeling when playing my actual amps through headphone or the softube marshalls through headphones, but both options still give me that joy of playing an amp. Its something the helix doesn't give as well, and I have never been able to tweak the helix where I am happy. Could also be something to do with option paralysis with the helix.
seen videos where people compare the pedals through the ox and they sound very comparable, but the helix can get that comparable too, I more want to know how it feels, and I would go to a music shop to try one, but there isn't a music shop close which stocks them and would have to order one, I just don't like returning things just because its not what I thought it was going to be.
@@RockG.o.d I would say for myself something that makes me feel like a "real amp" experience in headphones with the helix is to put either a room or the dynamic ambiance verb in stereo as last in the chain. Something about that helps it to feel like it's in an actual space being mic'd up.
Whether or not the Ruby achieves a better experience or not I think you'll need to source one and try yourself.
@@chadnathanbenson I actually use waves abbey road studio 3 plug-in with the head tracking for sound positioning which really works well and I have the ruby coming tomorrow so will see. If it’s easier to dial in a sound then worth it.
@@chadnathanbenson I am grateful for the video review, and I wanted to express my thanks. I've been using the pedal for four days now, and I'm having a blast with it. It's much more enjoyable to use than the Vox tones on my Helix. While I wouldn't necessarily say that it produces better tones, it's certainly easier to use and offers somewhat more convincing dynamic response. I find myself getting lost in playing with it. Additionally, I've been able to create a few tones that I use with my real Vox, and even some extra ones that my real Vox doesn't have.
Wow! Great sound
Helix has definitely captured the same sound.
To drive a cab though you would need the ruby correct? I'm thinking about driving a cab with the ruby when I want to crank at home but switching between the ruby/hx stomp and using stomp for effects when I direct in at church. It'd still be a tiny pedalboard to have both on there and maybe 1-2 other pedals
Charlie, great question! If I’m understanding what you’re going for then you could drive a cab with either the Ruby or the HX Stomp. The cab you’d want to use would be a FRFR (full rage, full frequency) style that is just taking the input and making it louder.
I think those two pedals in combination would give you great results for sure, and a tiny pedalboard to boot! Especially for a direct to FOH type situation. If you like the sound of post wet effects you could insert the Ruby into the effects loop and place your delays/verbs after it, then you could have drives, comp, modulation on the front end.
If you like the sound of delays/verbs on the front end then you could run the Stomp into the Ruby also. Crazy amounts of flexible routing are possible!
I tried my ruby through a 112 marshall cab with a mooer baby bomb. sounded great!
my amplug still slays
The Helix sounds good. But the Ruby sounds somehow more like an amp. I have an AC15 and these tones are so close.
Which one did you keep?
The Ruby got returned, though it really is a brilliant pedal. Just couldn't justify the cost, especially since Line 6 did that huge amp+cab update last year.