So what are we to do? Petty crime is 200 or less but the victim might need that long to feed their kids yet your suggesting they go free and can you not see how that would increase the rate of which it happens vastly?
Government make a lot of money keeping the jails full. And allways over fill them at voting time, because there all in Labour constituencies! (shocking isn't it?)
Met a crack head in Glasgow who said he can’t count how many times he’s been inside but he’s never been in for more than a year at a time, had been to barlinnie and lowmoss
Student accommodation where people get boiling water laced with sugar and bleach thrown over their face…student accommodation where people are regularly bullied to the point they off themselves. Student accommodation where people come out addicted to hard drugs…ok mate. The loss of your liberty, your job, home, family and relationships is the sentence. Not the horrific things that happen inside the walls.
I could offer to accommodate a few prisoners in my home, to ease the overcrowding, but I'm afraid it wouldn't be so comfortable. There is no pool table, prisoners would have to wait a month to see a doctor and I don't have an x-box.
The problem with our prison services in the UK as a whole is the daily mail government's we've had, who are more interested in locking people up in a system with a pathetic education and a none existent rehabilitation system just to make them look like they are fighting crime, instead of actually fighting the causes of crime instead. I truly hope this new labour government can do better, but I won't be holding my breathe.
thats the point. prisoners shouldn't have benefits of any kind to be honest. at least in the US life means life, UK you kill someone and get out in 15 years or less
@@robertwallace4393mate what about the Scottish/British & us governments They are the real ones who should be doing life. When you think about it. Obviously you’re that intelligent, you’ll work out why yourself, your that sheepish type, bet you still believe your own governments never brought down the towers that’s how blind you are son! Think before you speak
@@robertwallace4393 us life does not mean life rofl; as well if they are in for life there need to be certain Humane standards that are followed. These are humans after all ( it does cost a lot more to house “lifers” just FYI mate so actually keeping people in prison costs taxpayers more…apart from it being less beneficial to society overall when reintegration fails and folks that get out reoffend) We should be teaching people how to be better in society and learn skills to use outside IN society to survive and be productive members; not institutionalizing people and having them learn how to be better criminals…that is not a benefit to society it’s a disservice to us and to society overall👍💯✌️
@robertwallace4393 The prison system in America doesn't work to deter crime and is extremely expensive because they are for profit. Norway has the most effective prison system and one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world.
Andi Brierley: really impressed with him. 👍 We must look at prison as limiting freedom and genuine rehabilitation, rather than punishment as revenge. Obviously victims and the public must be protected, but also agree with Timpson that only the very most serious and violent crimes need long incarcerations. The causes of crime are mostly poverty, family problems, mental health, undiagnosed neurodivergence etc. Not dealing with this brings generational consequences for families, deprives individuals of a fair chance, and the economy of workers. Everyone loses at rhe moment, and the prison system needs reforming.
The truth is the UK prison population grew by 90% between 1995-2010. Two thirds of prisons were already overcrowded by 2009. The roots of these issues are longstanding.
I agree shoplifters shouldnt be in prison at all ..No use fining them either , as dont have money to pay They would rather do time than pay a fine > so what next ?
I heard claims that victims charities have voiced concern but immediately you went into an interview of the prison service's CE. Who are these philanthropists opposing people getting out of prison? Its quite a claim to not substantiate
Is it wrong that I look round and see society crumbling and think that perhaps the "rehabilitative" approach is not exactly working? Going to prison should be a punishment, not a vacation.
Yes it is. In case you haven't realised we've had 14 years without the rehabilitative approach and look where that's gotten us. When society is crumbling, peoples situations worsen, their mental health starts to get worse and so they turn to drugs and/or crime to cope which leads to further bad decisions. I think its cruel that society sets people up to fail and is perfectly happy to just discard them and sweep them away for the benefit of a wealthy few.
They dont get rehabilitated. There is no rehabilitation in our prisons right now. They don't learn how to make better choices or sort drug problems. They're released with same problems they went in with.
water usage/cost is so cheap, that adding meters/individual billing to the "system" makes it more expensive. I still save water even though I don't have a meter. And I don't understand your "at least" - I support what was shown in the documentary
the whole mindset has to change. The focus on the vast majority of offenders should be reform and punishment. It costs so much money to imprison someone and even more when they become repeat. Everyone wins by trying to integrate them back into society. The choice is between the US and Scandinavia
I canny believe they give the prisoners bunk beds, wee tv’s and Xbox’s, looks more like the shared bedroom of 2 kids than a prison cell, hardly serving hard time are they? 😂
Until our government deal with root problems in our society and mass illegal immigration which is swelling our population to the point all services like the NHS, housing, mental health support, drug rehabilitation is on its knees and waiting lists for homes or help is out of hand, then the jail issues won't get better they are just going to continue rising. These issues aren't new either this has been left to get to this point with very little effort to stop it getting to this point. What definitely doesn't help is this soft touch on prisons, like the cell you seen, tv, Xbox, xbox games collection bigger than most people will ever have, full of privileges and snacks list goes on. To a lot of guys in there it's a better place to be than outside prison and unfortunately that's a fact and why as soon as they get released they commit crime purposely get caught to get sent right back. Tackling these kinds of issues would be a good start to ease number's.
They arent being jailed for 1 shoplifting or one drug offence. They sre serial offenders ffs man. Shops would be as well shutting up as its basically licence to loot.
One of the biggest problems prisoners have when they come out ,is like with many people and that's knowere to live ,there prioritizing the boat people because want to get the 9 billion a day bill down ,for them first whilst our people find it impossible to get a home .fkn sad country .
In Australia there is a Northern Territory. The UK should leased land to build Detention Centre for Prisoners transferred there. Australia would be able to populate the vast land in the NT.
Need to stop putting people in prison for pretty crime
So what are we to do? Petty crime is 200 or less but the victim might need that long to feed their kids yet your suggesting they go free and can you not see how that would increase the rate of which it happens vastly?
Government make a lot of money keeping the jails full. And allways over fill them at voting time, because there all in Labour constituencies! (shocking isn't it?)
Met a crack head in Glasgow who said he can’t count how many times he’s been inside but he’s never been in for more than a year at a time, had been to barlinnie and lowmoss
Prince Andrew belongs in an overcrowded prison system.
Cell door open 24/7
So dose the king he was mates with Jim will fix it
Money 💰 talks
So does the Celtic back-room staff they are into wee boys
Rehabilitation and prison are two words that don't go together
Bigger video game collection than i've got
Looks like student accommodation
Student accommodation where people get boiling water laced with sugar and bleach thrown over their face…student accommodation where people are regularly bullied to the point they off themselves. Student accommodation where people come out addicted to hard drugs…ok mate.
The loss of your liberty, your job, home, family and relationships is the sentence. Not the horrific things that happen inside the walls.
@JonnyGertmunger yeh, studying a double major in shankology and spice production gets pretty heavy…
😂😅
Legalise all drugs problem solved
I could offer to accommodate a few prisoners in my home, to ease the overcrowding, but I'm afraid it wouldn't be so comfortable. There is no pool table, prisoners would have to wait a month to see a doctor and I don't have an x-box.
Ther prisoners not prisoners of war
Well get your self locked up ye fud
The problem with our prison services in the UK as a whole is the daily mail government's we've had, who are more interested in locking people up in a system with a pathetic education and a none existent rehabilitation system just to make them look like they are fighting crime, instead of actually fighting the causes of crime instead.
I truly hope this new labour government can do better, but I won't be holding my breathe.
Ask yourself how did it get so bad !
Better then US Prisions which are Inhumane, kudos. Keep fixing the system and helping citizens improve.
thats the point. prisoners shouldn't have benefits of any kind to be honest. at least in the US life means life, UK you kill someone and get out in 15 years or less
@@robertwallace4393mate what about the Scottish/British & us governments
They are the real ones who should be doing life. When you think about it. Obviously you’re that intelligent, you’ll work out why yourself, your that sheepish type, bet you still believe your own governments never brought down the towers that’s how blind you are son! Think before you speak
@@robertwallace4393 us life does not mean life rofl; as well if they are in for life there need to be certain Humane standards that are followed. These are humans after all ( it does cost a lot more to house “lifers” just FYI mate so actually keeping people in prison costs taxpayers more…apart from it being less beneficial to society overall when reintegration fails and folks that get out reoffend)
We should be teaching people how to be better in society and learn skills to use outside IN society to survive and be productive members; not institutionalizing people and having them learn how to be better criminals…that is not a benefit to society it’s a disservice to us and to society overall👍💯✌️
@robertwallace4393 The prison system in America doesn't work to deter crime and is extremely expensive because they are for profit. Norway has the most effective prison system and one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world.
Build new bigger prisons, better option than letting them out
Fool
because they give sentences for stupid petty crime
Andi Brierley: really impressed with him. 👍
We must look at prison as limiting freedom and genuine rehabilitation, rather than punishment as revenge.
Obviously victims and the public must be protected, but also agree with Timpson that only the very most serious and violent crimes need long incarcerations.
The causes of crime are mostly poverty, family problems, mental health, undiagnosed neurodivergence etc.
Not dealing with this brings generational consequences for families, deprives individuals of a fair chance, and the economy of workers.
Everyone loses at rhe moment, and the prison system needs reforming.
legalise drugs then.
NAW
@@TheMasterblaster32 spot the tory voter
Drugs are the main reason most people end up in prison FACT. Education about drugs should be mandatory in all schools.
LEGALIZE
Ok druggie
Stop locking people up for victimless crimes, take the profit out of incarceration
It’s reassuring to hear that rehabilitation is on the agenda rather than “lock them up and throw away the key” attitude.
In venezuela are 700 in a cell :)))...and it is a prison after all is supposed to be a hard stay so u will avoid comming back
but then again venezuela is a shithole,
Thanks to open borders
Stop putting people in prison for minor drug offences!!
Theyve got fuckin xbox's 😂
From a 100 year ago
@@user-sz8km9dy5v mate Lego star wars is on that console what more do you need? You're in fuckin prison 😂
The truth is the UK prison population grew by 90% between 1995-2010. Two thirds of prisons were already overcrowded by 2009. The roots of these issues are longstanding.
I agree shoplifters shouldnt be in prison at all ..No use fining them either , as dont have money to pay
They would rather do time than pay a fine > so what next ?
Free people in there with non-violent drug offences
50 Xbox games, telly, snacks?? What happened to a bowl of porridge and an itchy blanket.
You treat people like animals they turn into animals
Trust me that place is no jail.
prison should be a place that you don't want to go , seems like a hotel compared to some prisons around the world
2002 - Recorded violent crimes 708,742
2022 - Recorded violent crimes 2,113,283
🤔
source? Places like Glasgow are significantly less violent than 20 years ago
The definition of violent crime in the UK has been expanded twice since 2002 so this dataset isn't actually representative of changes in activity
I heard claims that victims charities have voiced concern but immediately you went into an interview of the prison service's CE. Who are these philanthropists opposing people getting out of prison? Its quite a claim to not substantiate
Is it wrong that I look round and see society crumbling and think that perhaps the "rehabilitative" approach is not exactly working? Going to prison should be a punishment, not a vacation.
Yes it is.
In case you haven't realised we've had 14 years without the rehabilitative approach and look where that's gotten us. When society is crumbling, peoples situations worsen, their mental health starts to get worse and so they turn to drugs and/or crime to cope which leads to further bad decisions. I think its cruel that society sets people up to fail and is perfectly happy to just discard them and sweep them away for the benefit of a wealthy few.
They dont get rehabilitated. There is no rehabilitation in our prisons right now. They don't learn how to make better choices or sort drug problems. They're released with same problems they went in with.
@@You-tw4zsyeah I can see your point 👍
There are other forms of punishment.
such as?
@@jayray7449 slavery.
@@jayray7449labor camps let's say quarries 😅
I'll never vote for anyone until they bring back d.s
@@AJK17.5 I think he's talking about things like fines and community service for minor crimes.
How come a guy in prison has a video game and I don't?
At least they have clean , nationalised water and free education for it's citizens
water usage/cost is so cheap, that adding meters/individual billing to the "system" makes it more expensive. I still save water even though I don't have a meter.
And I don't understand your "at least" - I support what was shown in the documentary
the whole mindset has to change. The focus on the vast majority of offenders should be reform and punishment. It costs so much money to imprison someone and even more when they become repeat. Everyone wins by trying to integrate them back into society. The choice is between the US and Scandinavia
Our population is at a record high. Obviously we have record numbers in prisons.
No opportunities as usual set up from birth to fail, seen it across the world. Men born destined for nothing, crime and struggle.
What a pathetic excuse. Everyone is born naked with nothing. You have to,take personal responsibility.
@@jablot5054 "Everyone is born with nothing" what about those born into family businesses, fortunes, royalty etc.
@@jablot5054Stop writing rubbish. Many have everything before even being conceived .
@@skrtdaily5533Exactly
@@skrtdaily5533And how many of them are jailed for their crimes ?
It's not suppose to be like a hotel. It is a punishment that all comforts are taking away.
Prisions are full. Labour must have won again........
"people in our care" sums it up really. On the outside no one cares.
How many people are in for saying a woman is an adult human female?
The sum total of zero.
That looks better than my uni hall room.
Imagine how many more prison places would be needed if the UK still had a properly functioning police force....
Stop putting people in jail for stupid things
Oh the poor Prisoners
nobody cares about the victims
It's prison 😂 it's not a hotel room.
What do you think Ferris is going to do?
Well, shake it up, baby, now (shake it up baby)
Twist and shout (twist and shout)
Gee words of wisdom to us fools ❤
Who cares about the size that cell has an Xbox 😂
aye imprisoning people for tweets fucks with the prison system
Time to make prisons unbearable so inmates dont re offend . Simple
snp should be in there
I canny believe they give the prisoners bunk beds, wee tv’s and Xbox’s, looks more like the shared bedroom of 2 kids than a prison cell, hardly serving hard time are they? 😂
Until our government deal with root problems in our society and mass illegal immigration which is swelling our population to the point all services like the NHS, housing, mental health support, drug rehabilitation is on its knees and waiting lists for homes or help is out of hand, then the jail issues won't get better they are just going to continue rising.
These issues aren't new either this has been left to get to this point with very little effort to stop it getting to this point.
What definitely doesn't help is this soft touch on prisons, like the cell you seen, tv, Xbox, xbox games collection bigger than most people will ever have, full of privileges and snacks list goes on. To a lot of guys in there it's a better place to be than outside prison and unfortunately that's a fact and why as soon as they get released they commit crime purposely get caught to get sent right back. Tackling these kinds of issues would be a good start to ease number's.
Vince loves visiting our scotch colonies the scenery takes one's breath away.
The food will take your life away.
Our armed forces sleep in smaller space.
Bet it all most impossible to get a single cell! 🙃
Comfortable hotel. I suggest taking a look at Russian prisons.
Looks like Kilmarnock and Bar-l
Kilmarnock is the best jail out mate. Nothing like bar 😂
They arent being jailed for 1 shoplifting or one drug offence. They sre serial offenders ffs man. Shops would be as well shutting up as its basically licence to loot.
Stop the spice
They have an Xbox???
One of the biggest problems prisoners have when they come out ,is like with many people and that's knowere to live ,there prioritizing the boat people because want to get the 9 billion a day bill down ,for them first whilst our people find it impossible to get a home .fkn sad country .
The Romans couldn't civilize them either
Sounds like it won’t be crowded much longer.
They have games consoles! 😄😁😆
Lol good job europe leftism
👍❣️
Well here we have a reporter waddling along carrying 2 or 3 stones of blubber, another problem in Scotland along with drug and alcohol abuse.
First
well the answer is simple, scotland STOP BREAKING THE LAW!!!!
You didn’t watch the clip then . England and wales overcrowding is even worse 😂
In Australia there is a Northern Territory. The UK should leased land to build Detention Centre for Prisoners transferred there. Australia would be able to populate the vast land in the NT.
WHATS THE COMMONEST NAME IN SCOTTISH PRISONS ❓
ANGUS OR ALI...❓
So is peadophilia in England 😅
can we not build one or rent in north korea or Russia as a leashold for 999years 😂😂