Why Mike Winnets Meeting With GaryVee Was SO Dissapointing...
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- Опубликовано: 13 дек 2024
- What is it like having a meeting with Gary Vaynerchuk? How do you even get a meeting a Vayner Media? In this video, Mike Winnet tells his story of how he met GaryVee and how he lost his respect for him as a result.
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It's high time that Coffeezilla and Mike did a world tour together exposing scammers in every country they visit.
My thoughts on Gary vee are as follows; although he is all over the place he has made 2 massive social media calls. I listened to the audiobook of crushing it when I tried starting a business at 21 (it didn’t work but I made a little money) although the instructions in crushing it were unclear he made the following calls 1. Get on musically, it’s the next social media boom. Musically was bought out and it now called tiktok. 2. Make videos for Facebook, they want to become like RUclips and Netflix and will start monetising videos. I listened to crushing it back in 2017.
A few years ago really I got into Gary V. As it happens, I run a world class company with world class IP and high end clients. I thought, “hey, whey don’t we get Vayner Media to do some stuff for us?”. So, I called and set up a meeting (by phone) which I was actually quite stoked for. Day comes and I dial into the call. The girl assigned to our account couldn’t have sounded more disinterested in talking to me. I thought, hey, maybe I can break the ice by telling her all the cool stuff I’ve seen Gary V say on his videos and in his books. Turns out she didn’t watch his videos and hadn’t read his books. The call lasted maybe 15 minutes. Quite frankly it was hugely disappointing. This was when I knew his organization was smoke and mirrors, that he had a huge problem in that his personality doesn’t scale to an industrial sized business. Anyway, my personal experience with Vayner Media.
His company also has an abysmal employee churn rate. Overworks them and spits them out, in exchange for the "privilege" of having Vayner Media on your CV. Quite pathetic really.
Yep! Watch Josh Flukes videos on him. There was one where his team was hiring an intern in the heart of New York City for somewhere about $40k or less a year. This creates an uproar just because it’s Gary V, yet his finance team still decides to exploit people. No way anyone can really live off of that in NY so what do they do? Use their name to leverage. They eventually changed and raised the price but I thought it was interesting that his company seems to be a lot of smoke and mirrors.
His whole company is based about personal branding and how to pivot that into streams of revenue. If you watched or listened to a few hours of his free content and read "crush it" or "crushing it" you would have picked up on this. His stuff is definitely not for global industrial businesses
I run the smallest agency in the world for SEO. give me 1000th of what you would've paid Vayner and we won't disappoint. 😂
A friend showed me one video of his and I'm being dead serious, I said "this dude is shady. He sounds like a con artist, fake it til you make it type." Friend was sold on him. Years later he realised.
I love Mike Winnet. What a legend!! If only more people knew about this stuff, we'd have less tears in the world. And save a lot of money.
Netflix are part of the problem 2. Mike is definitely on the right side of history & applaud him for exposing these crooks
What’s wrong with Netflix in this context?
@@l-train7876 they scape goat individuals instead of exposing the entire system because more people will watch it and it's easier to dramatise.
The person he's referencing is 100% Grant Cardone.
I remember when Gary went on his program and it was obvious Gary had an issue with him but saw the scummy value in his market
It can only be Grant Cardone lol hes the only one that came to min and he peddles pure trash
I thought that 100000000%
That’s what I thought 😂💯💯🎯
"The scummy value in his market" I want to buy you a six pack for that one.
@@bluedragonrob1 haha thanks bro
Mike is 100% spot on about Gary. He really isn't a contrepreneur. He doesn't sell courses, he gives you the pillars that you apply to your own stuff. But his attitude and identity absolutely gets eaten up by the biggest losers who then go on to actual con artists selling Amazon drop shipping courses. I stopped watching ages ago, back when he turned from helping businesses to becoming a call-in therapist, but I always hated how people acted like he was another Tai Lopez-type.
" he gives you the pillars that you apply to your own stuff." great more BS
@@sandingo
Right? Such drivel.
Did you watch the same video we did?
Oh the irony….. this video has just been interrupted by an advert for an entrepreneur coach. Beware the algorithms! 😂
Just use ad block ;)
Love seeing these guru's and exposed using the same advice over and over, great podcast
15:52 I think the person worst was either Tony Robbins or Grant Cardone. I mean it could have been any of them from Dean G to Tai but those two I feel are the bigger fish plus Gary did do some videos (collab-joint content)with them.
Grant actually makes money in real estate that's his actual thing. I don't know what Gary V does and I've know about him for years.
Tony Robbins helped me get over the trauma of my childhood. Definitely was the real deal for me.
@@jasonvoorhies6431 Good for you brother. I also am a huge fan of Tony Robbins.
I won't name the worst person either but his name may rhyme with Rony Tobbins
I'm sure it was Grant Cardone, although personally I think Tony Robbins is the worst of the lot!!
@@darrylryan5568 This guy hates Uncle G. I agree with you, Tony is the most disgusting.
Oh! you mean Pony Ponnins. Totally agree 😂
What was your experience?
Agree but book life force is good mainly because not written by him 😂
Mike Winnet is the man. Hilarious content. Awesome clip, thank you for sharing.
Is the full ep not on RUclips?
Gary Veeeeee - A dude that predicted that Black Berry would fail - and he was right. Now he thinks he can predict anything . A contrepeneur that does not sell you anything. Just hyped up motivational speaker.
Didn’t he sell 100 million dollars worth of shit nfts?
Gary Vee is like the top boss at the end of a video game.
Yeah, Tetris
or he’s not a boss at all .
Not really.
@@afti03 no, the con game.
@@l-train7876 L
Absolutely love this bloke.
Fast becoming a fan of Mike Winnet. In fact, I'm sitting in a tree outside his house with a pair of binoculars and a tupperware box of warm cucumber sandwiches.
Rookie numbers… Gotta step it up, I’m chilling under his bed!!
@@akapoka8732 budge up!
@@akapoka8732 amateur..I’ve been wearing his girlfriend’s skin on my face for the last 72 hours and he hasn’t even noticed the difference 😏
Sounds like the antagonist should be Gary himself. Lmaooo
4Ds is not 15k for 10min of Gary's time. That's a misrepresentation of what it actually is.
4Ds is one day of consulting, workshops, talks, and yes, a meeting with Gary (around 10min per person, usually around 1hour total, and you also learn from other people's questions).
I don't know if you genuinely are not aware of that or if you're just trying to add drama to your video...
Yeeeeah that's kind of not the point though.
It changes from promotor to promotor.
I bet you'd pay that 15 grand wouldn't you
@@qupation7296 not the main point, granted, but it goes to show that the video is not very accurate or, worse, is a misrepresentation of the truth
@@eveningstreetsx8422 personally i would not because i don't think it would help MY business, but it doesn't mean other people can't see value in his service.
This guy is just mad he can't shop at garage sales as good as Gary.
😂
Good one Mike, very accurate about Gary Vee... dont trust that dude
Finally someone's seeing through Gary V!
He first shared this story on The Drip!
British humor is just different bruh
All you have to do is google to his name and companies he owns. They’re just shell companies that look huge but are a bunch of virtual assistants
Dude. Have you ever interacted with his virtual assistants? I'm pretty damn certain that it would take 10+ of them just to cost minimum wage in the U.S. Sad.
Money is all they care about sadly. Authenticity and actually sticking to their word... not so much.
this is great thank you, is this chap still publishing videos?
Mike Winnit helps you stay away from Con formulas of sales. Very good content.
Sounds like Gary is like Simon Cowell. Takes advantage of losers and winners on his show. The losers provide the entertainment short term of car crash TV and anyone with real talent will be exploited long term monetarily.
That’s not exclusive to Simon Cowell, that’s the draw of reality TV.
Winnet. Great name . Haven't heard that word since I was at school.
“What to do if you’re homeless?”
“Buy a house”
Then put me on your deed as a lien holder for giving you such 'awesome' advice.
I think he's referring to Gary Vee and Tony Robins at the end
I've been looking for more content from Mike regarding his story how he built his business etc., as I am interested in hearing different people's path to success, then I stumbled into the gary v controversy and wanted to go deeper. I'm on the 10th minute and just want to say that 4D is not about 10 minutes with Gary, it's much more that you get. :)
What else?
i just cannot understand why people dont see that these people are con artists, quite sad
So sad, they just scared to name because of defamation lawsuits
So let's start
Tony Robbins, Tai Lopez, Dean Graziosi, V shred, Dan Lok, Dan Bilzerian, The guy behind click funnels.
Keep the list growing Boys
Dan Bilzarian isn’t really known for being a successful entrepreneur. More of a poker player and IG wh*re.
@@l-train7876 Well the Poker pros know him as a bad looser in Poker or was it bad poker player?
Nah Both
For the record, he's talking about Grant. How ironic that Grant and Gary V are now beefing after selling books together. lol. Grant has real issue with this fake alpha persona
How do know that for sure?
@@paddy1451 Because "trust me bro" lol
L’oriel is a proper big company to be fair
Yup, $32B company.
Who is the worst one of them all that gary vee did content together lateron?
My guess is Grant Cardone.
Agree it has to be grant
Interesting video, I learned a lot about Gary’s internal operations, thanks for the info keep it up 👍
Forbes just did this for Berner too. He paid them 100k to be on the cover and it was a revenue split
Great Interview - enjoyed that
Great video Josh. Been interviewed by 2 out of 3 of you. Who’s the guy I don’t know? 😊
What a story!
Thanks Guys! When you coming up for a chat? 👀
Are there any successful businessmen or women who haven’t leveraged similar tactics throughout their career to get where they are? Isn’t this the essence of business?
No, it’s not the essence of business.
Great clip!!
Tony Robins had to be the guy lol
Seems like this guys adds a negative bias on all his observations but he’s sold his business in the past for literally millions so that’s inspirational 👏🏽 more power to those doing well for themselves 💪🏽 🙏🏼
Has to be Grant Cardone :)
Anyone that goes by a fake name is a contrepreneur. That includes Gary V. and not his true name. I know a guy conned by him. Funny thing is, his latest scam (NFTs) is run by underpaid foreigners. They promised him a refund when they were supposed to deny all refunds. Cost him up to $500. LOL
Most of life is just a little bit boring. When the stories get too good, I am always on edge.
Boring or exciting, you are the author of your own life!!
@@bbb_888 There are a bunch of boring jobs making our lives pretty damn nice.
"I don't fucking know you" - Gary Vee LOOOL
I stopped following Gary for this exact reason, he has some good advice but it started to become annoying at some stage for me.
MOTIVATED!!!!!!!!!!!
DEDICATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great video!
Same as the forex and crypto business. Their are scammers everywhere that don’t prove the can trade yet so many idiots believe them for too long. I actually have little sympathy for the people that believe these contrepreneurs People want to believe they can be rich by skipping the hard work.
there their they're
@@goomaboi well done for spotting a typo.
Is he really not aware that l'oreal is a huge corporation lol
He paid for that meeting.
You can pay to book meetings with Gary Vee. Did you know that?
Nobody would fly to America for a meeting that could get cancelled an hour before the event.
In another video, Mike says that he was the only guest sitting there that day who didn't pay for a meeting. So, your assumption is incorrect. Also he talks about it in this video around 10:29.
I always said GaryV was full of it lmao people who buy into his crap are the same people who believed Tai Lopez was a genius
it's truly saddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd.
They have good ideas, but theres no magic to success
Who’s the main con guy he mentions tho, it’s it grant cardone or Lopez
Blimey how these two know each other?!
I love guys like this, in whatever you do go hard at it
Mike "In It To" Winnet
So people pay him for a talk and then he invests in their business with the money the gave him?
Brian Rose wouldn't happen to be the man in question 🤔.?
Nope
So Gary gets paid a flat rate to speak at an event, but, he also gets a percentage of the revenue stream from the speakers before him of whatever they sell to the audience?
Have I got that right?
A percentage of the revenue the promotor makes. But that's only the tip of the scheme. The real dough is from luring the next generation of entrepreneurs and attracting all the great ideas at the birth. Kinda genius but again lures young people with social media bullshit.
6:00 that would be great :D
I’m so confused why courses have all of a sudden got a bad rep? I’ve learnt amazing info in courses. So your successful for s**tin on people? Great business lol not
There are good courses and bad. It’s when the sales hype is up there and the actual delivered content is down there, it’s a con. When the course delivers on its promise then it’s a good course. The bad rep comes from so many bad courses being shilled.
I can’t believe just listened to him spend all this time say I don’t like Gary but there’s no legitimate reason.
Scam nft seller and trying to manipulate the market
That paper youtube reward cracked me up
Why does narcissistic empathy come to mind? 🤔
Gary is the man. He never did nothing to nobody
Oh shit i was listening to this and i said "thay sounds like beard"
Success Resources succcck. I 100% agree and experienced the same thing at a conference he was speaking at it was hugely disappointing.
On the other flip of the coin Gary changed how I do business and I'm.very thankful for that.
He basically has shark tank in his office
Eh, reaching. Cool outro music.
Never even heard of gary vee
He blew up on social media several years ago.
I have disliked GaryV for a very long time but for completely different reasons
What reasons? When I hear comments like that from people my first thought is that they’re jealous of his success.
@@l-train7876 the main problem I have with GaryV is that it's scummy to say "You can work for me if you pay me $100K". That is wrong for so many reasons.
@@andrearaimondi882 he was making people pay $100K if they wanted to work FOR him?? I never heard that, idk what idiot would pay that honestly.
@@l-train7876 oh yeah, that's why I intensely dislike the guy and he was flogging that as a lifetime opportunity.
@@andrearaimondi882 okay, but hear me out. Only a fool would take that deal. It’s actually hard to believe that someone actually paid that.
Bro if grown adults want to spend $2k on a course, that is their prerogative. You are really infantilizing adults, many of which, are already somewhat successful and know what they are investing in.
It is par for the course in the United States for 17-18yos to BORROW 5-6 figures for shittier material and the sales process usually starts 10 years earlier
Bang on mate 👍🏽
Genius !
Great point. I like Gary and i do think his content's very valuable because he does know social media and is a practitioner, his "macro thesis" tend to be right and he's always seemed good hearted to me, but this is pretty sad to hear and it does take away a bit of credibility from him. Success resources etc suck and i hope he's dealing back on those kinds of events. I assume the tradeoff is that he gets to make "important looking content" or that maybe he's cultivating relationships with people who hooked him up in the past when he needed that "halo status" more and I do hope he pivots and ends these shady deals.
The guy Gary hates and later hung out with is Grant Cardone. 😂
i watched one of g. cardone's vidz and they started recording when he wasn't aware of it. he was basically sexually harassing his female assistant before he started his stupid "show". birds of a feather flock together.
Wrong
Grant C...?
Gary,
Money,
Penny,
Vee
MIke just proved that GaryV is a compassionate businessman. But has money on his mind,and is doing it as consciously as he can . Mike doesne'\t understand storytelling and drama, there has to be a danger to look out for some kind of risk it keeps you with the main character, so when Netflix told him , we need a villain, and you were like no, I want to do PBS, they were like turned off because they knew it would not get views.
Fascinating
So who’s the worst guy in the industry? 🤔
now I wonder who is that person they were talking about? Does anyone have an idea?
"Dissapointing" is your spelling
Its all about bucks, the rest is just conversation
Stellar
Alt James Corden poppin off
Brilliant
Haha, U.K's number 1 motivational speaker, he also got mad at me for saying you don't need to become an influencer. I won't mention any names....... Brad.... Burto**** 😅
Please note - I didn't have millions of followers though, only my 7 different sociopath personalities.
This is clickbait using Gary Vee. Do not watch, there is no value/insight here. Just a waste of 16 min. I wish I could have back.
You weren’t amused? It was funny as fuck
Thank you for the heads up - I listened on double speed after seeing your comment and half way through I've just heard garbage - would have been worse if your comment wasn't there.
@@eightpercentdisciple LOOOL YOU PROLLY WORK FOR GARY VER NOBODY IS STUPID HAHA
Facts, terrible
Nah today it's Andrew Tate and Robert kiyosaki for me lol 😆
Robert +😂😂😂, all videos reciting the same book😂😂😂, what new😂😂
Who was the guy? Lol hands down I don’t want to say the name I’m thinking because I worked for him a few years ago.
But his name is essentially written all over it
Anyone know which con artist he’s talking about?
Grant Cardon?
He gives them the oxygen?
Gary Vee is a letdown