My Story Idea for Saw XI: Jigsaw Faces Himself & Apprentices Assemble

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  • With Saw XI officially announced to be released next year, I wanted to share my ideas for where the story could go. This is my three-act pitch for Saw XI.
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  • @davidbeach7486
    @davidbeach7486 9 месяцев назад +160

    Saw XI will introduce Vin Diesel in a post credits scene, Saw XII will pit Vin Diesel against the apprentices… family vs family

    • @themidnighttavern6784
      @themidnighttavern6784 9 месяцев назад +8

      The big twist is Amanda will be asked to plot against Vin, and his family by Jigsaw, but will be won over by their charm. It will be revealed her death in Saw 3 was faked so she could escape and join Dom's crew.
      Then, in Saw 13 subtitle, the unlucky bunch, Amanda and Dom will fight against Jigsaw, before Jigsaw by the end of the movie is won over by Dom's charm, and the movie ends with him inventing a time machine, so he can go back in time and fake his own death. This allows him to start a new life with Dom and join his family.

    • @mychannel323
      @mychannel323 9 месяцев назад +5

      Cue the mash up of Bandeleros and the saw theme 😆

    • @drmichaelmorbius3223
      @drmichaelmorbius3223 9 месяцев назад +4

      And then the movie ends with a barbeque.

    • @tcfuzz
      @tcfuzz 9 месяцев назад +1

      You joke, but id watch this

    • @ELONTUSK2
      @ELONTUSK2 9 месяцев назад +2

      Fuck it I’m in

  • @DripsawKilla
    @DripsawKilla 9 месяцев назад +106

    As a long time Saw fanatic this was an absolutely brilliant pitch. It manages to explore John’s hypocrisy, and utilizes both Amanda and Hoffman in a way that fleshes out earlier entries in the franchise.
    I can’t stress enough how much Saw X has revitalized the fandom. The hardcore Saw fans have been begging for a film that explores John’s hypocrisy for ages.

    • @domphilbrick
      @domphilbrick 9 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly! One of my favorite scenes in any of these movies is when Hoffman dumps the guy out of the wheelbarrow and John gets upset and lectures Hoffman about how “that’s a human being” and then proceeds to put this “human being” into the Rack, a trap that he can’t escape on his own and is specifically designed to inflict as much suffering as possible lol

  • @tovick1643
    @tovick1643 4 месяца назад +4

    What was in general on my mind, is with what happened in saw X and Cecilia killing gaby, i would assume this is what starts to make amanda snap and it wont surprise me that Cecilia dies in the first unwinnable trap of hers. Also, isnt hoffman like he is because he was basically blackmailed in becoming an apprentice, though learning alot from john, and trying to safe his own ass when the cops are on his tail, trying to clean all the tracks so he gets his "non jigsaw life" back. Kinda like strahm said in saw 5: We were all supposed to die, you were supposed to be the hero.. Dr Gordon can work, if Hoffman doesnt see him, maybe he is unconcious or something? But i in general liked the idea, keeps it fresh and a bit more towards full circle

  • @Unti1tmrw
    @Unti1tmrw 9 месяцев назад +6

    Logan was still in the military during the timeline of the OG movies. So unless they decide to do a major retcon, he can’t be involved, which I think is fine. Gordon could genuinely be involved I think.

    • @ledsith
      @ledsith Месяц назад

      This guy is not a writer . He doesnt even know Saw lore .

  • @DeJesusCustomFootwear
    @DeJesusCustomFootwear 9 месяцев назад +45

    This was badass man! We 10000% need more pitches from you. I still think about your Dexter finale pitch years later lol

    • @CodyLeachYT
      @CodyLeachYT  9 месяцев назад +10

      Thanks man. So do I! Hahaha 😢😢😢

    • @ledsith
      @ledsith Месяц назад

      @@CodyLeachYT You dont know how to write a movie .

  • @JakeDHS07
    @JakeDHS07 9 месяцев назад +39

    Love these kind of concept videos and sounds like a solid idea. Hope someone involved in the production sees this!

  • @slimexxot
    @slimexxot 9 месяцев назад +37

    I absolutely love the idea of John more or less retiring at the start of Saw XI. It serves as a continuation of the conversation John had with his doctor at the beginning of X.
    "You want my advise? Retire..."
    "Your advice to me... is to die, easy?"
    Seeing him actually accepting that and choosing to die easy would be a great way to show how the events of X changed him. Well done!

  • @HummBabyBaseball
    @HummBabyBaseball 9 месяцев назад +9

    This will probably be better than the real Saw XI.

  • @JoshNitsche
    @JoshNitsche 9 месяцев назад +9

    I had to come back and watch this again. I can't emphasize enough how great of a pitch this is. I'm a huge Saw fan, have been for 20 years, I've even wrote fan fiction, and I love your idea. I was thinking about it so much I actually got emotional imagining how the scenes would play out. This is the best pitch I've heard. If not Saw 11, maybe part 12. Awesome idea... sorry for commenting twice! I hope Lionsgate sees this video.

  • @Mr_Manhunt88
    @Mr_Manhunt88 9 месяцев назад +11

    Saw X was being written originally to be a sequel to Jigsaw but when Chris rock made spiral the script that became Saw X was worked on for about 5 years. This is why it was so good.

  • @zmanxclusive9360
    @zmanxclusive9360 9 месяцев назад +6

    You are a natural, my friend. I damn near stopped the video because I felt like you were spoiling a Saw movie for me! Great ideas. Makes you wonder why there are so many shit bombs in this franchise when you just wrote a whole script for them in a 30-minute RUclips video. Keep up the creative thought! It will be exciting to see what we have on the horizon for this franchise.

    • @CodyLeachYT
      @CodyLeachYT  9 месяцев назад +4

      Glad you liked it. There's 1000 different things that can go wrong when making a movie so coming up with a good idea to start with is probably the easy part. haha

    • @zmanxclusive9360
      @zmanxclusive9360 9 месяцев назад +2

      @CodyLeachYT Good point, but I do think Hollywood is lacking in the creative storytelling department. Either way, loved the video. You are a captivating story teller and hope to get some new things like this from you in the future!

  • @hoborobbo
    @hoborobbo 9 месяцев назад +8

    The whole idea for Saw XI is so epic and cool, and I really love the idea of challenging John Kramer's morality because it further dives into the psychological battle between him and Cecilia. About the third act of bringing Amanda and Hoffman into the final test, I can imagine the emotional intensity from Saw III's ending, with Amanda confronting John. Bringing Logan and Lawrence back is not a bad idea, and it might even make Logan more "canon." The whole pitch definitely echoes what Saw X did for the movies it chronologically follows, particularly the enhancing what's already established in the full story.

  • @OKScottT
    @OKScottT 9 месяцев назад +6

    I slept on this channel for quite a while. Since I found it. I've binged for the past 5 or 6 days. Really nice work man!

  • @maskedman5657
    @maskedman5657 9 месяцев назад +6

    Am I the only one who thought Jigsaw's "plan" didn't make much sense in Saw X?

  • @pierrebalbin5434
    @pierrebalbin5434 9 месяцев назад +5

    Zepp's family member would be a crazy fit as a relative of the final test subject.

    • @CodyLeachYT
      @CodyLeachYT  9 месяцев назад +5

      I was gonna say Zepp but I don’t think he was ever discovered to be killed…let alone a Jigsaw victim. His corpse is in that bathroom and nobody knows about it.

  • @livwinter441
    @livwinter441 9 месяцев назад +5

    Love the idea of an Amanda and Hoffman team up. That would be so interesting. If they could get Gordon and Logan back too? Phew that would be awesome.

  • @papahamdrew9962
    @papahamdrew9962 9 месяцев назад +1

    Lionsgate: “Saw X was actually good people enjoyed it, let’s do a sequel”
    Saw XI is announced with 2024 release date
    Lionsgate: “aw shit, how are we gonna continue without messing up saw 3 but also not cheapening saw x”
    Cody: releases this vid
    Lionsgate: “bingo”

  • @bennyargent6172
    @bennyargent6172 10 дней назад +1

    I think Logan would still be in military by the point of the OG movies Gordon could have a shot at it but I feel like it would be cool if Jill tuck was also there and we see a more villainous side to her that we haven’t seen yet and traps with no backstory yet that she secretly made with John in the earlier movies

  • @jmayarobinson1675
    @jmayarobinson1675 9 месяцев назад +1

    @codyleach I knew it! I said it in one of my fanmails. R u gonna get into screenwriting and filmmaking yourself, and you were like, nah, I'd, have to go to school, I have a family, we'll see, blah, blah, blah. Sounds like you're reconsidering 🤔

  • @leighwhannellsangel
    @leighwhannellsangel 3 месяца назад +1

    I LOVE THIS IDEA!! buttt i personally think amanda would be way more loyal than hoffman

  • @thetruckwashbathroomstudio2922
    @thetruckwashbathroomstudio2922 9 месяцев назад +4

    I had this fun idea for awhile for a saw movie is to have all the alive apprentices ( hope Hoffman is somehow still alive) in a saw trap. Having them in a test of who is the true and most loyal to John. The person behind the game could be dr Gordon or the kid from saw X.

  • @tyleigh4309
    @tyleigh4309 9 месяцев назад +5

    More of these videos would be fun, I'm sure you have some interesting ideas for things you would like to see in movies and it's just fun to hear!

  • @deathbymazda
    @deathbymazda 9 месяцев назад +1

    A new timeline that ignores everything after Saw II. Saw 11 would be Amanda vs. Hoffman. The movie would start with a friendly competition to prove to John who the more competent apprentice is and it would end in a jealous rivalry.

  • @hellvis85
    @hellvis85 9 месяцев назад +5

    Wow! I'm really impressed with your ideas for the movie! That's would be great! You've got talent! :)

  • @darko7743
    @darko7743 9 месяцев назад +4

    I forgot to mention, having "John Kramer vs Jigsaw" is yet another way to humanize Jigsaw as John Kramer.
    Also, I remember when I watched Saw 3D, where Doctor Gordon was revealed as one of the 3 under the pig mask, Hoffmann's look was not one of "who are you?" So much as it's "what the f**k are you doing here!" He knew him and vice versa.

  • @bingewatcherfanatic996
    @bingewatcherfanatic996 9 месяцев назад +3

    Cody man pitch this Idea to Lionsgate already we need this for Saw 11. This is really the best idea I've ever heard and would definitely want to see this version in theaters!

  • @goblin_corpse
    @goblin_corpse 9 месяцев назад +4

    I would love for Amanda to have a crisis of conscience, maybe Cecilia frames someone for something they didn't do. And when it transpires that they're innocent, Amanda is sent into a spiral of horror and self-doubt. I love the idea of the chickens finally coming home to roost. John's too removed from the consequences of his actions, he needs to see the aftermath up close and personal. Something to *really* test his morals.

  • @amandaray7482
    @amandaray7482 9 месяцев назад +3

    Love this!
    I do think the one reason all the apprentices wouldn’t be able to come back is because Cary Elwes refuses to be part of the franchise. The mention of Dr. Gordon could happen but he won’t be back on the screen.
    A big missing puzzle piece my sister and I have been trying to figure out for years is Detective Tapp.
    Yes he died in the first one: even though I always wondered why his character wouldn’t have been wearing a bullet proof vest with how paranoid he had become. He survived a cut to the throat so it would not shock me he survived a bullet wound.
    But my main question is why he was SO obsessed, bound and determined to prove Dr. Gordon guilty of the Jigsaw killings. They spent a lot of time on his suspicions and I just wonder what, besides the pen light made him overtly paranoid of Dr. Gordon.
    Also how did he find Adam, the same person Dr. Gordon would be placed in a trap with, to take pictures of Gordon’s affair?
    We don’t know but my sister and I have just had suspicions about Tapp for years.
    I do like the idea of going and showing when Mark Hoffman had the switch from loyal apprentice to Jason Voorhees.

  • @XenoTheProducer
    @XenoTheProducer 9 месяцев назад +3

    This was great man, really entertaining! Me and my best mate were talking about a similar kind of idea, about John being the main test subject of the traps in Saw XI. Love this kind of content! 👍

  • @Nightwalker-zk6ce
    @Nightwalker-zk6ce 9 месяцев назад +2

    Definitely agree that XI needs to have some aspect of Amanda and Hoffman working together. Not an original idea, but I saw someone else suggest that XI should take place between Saw II and III, and focus on Amanda and Hoffman having to work together to run a game now that John’s health is failing, and I thought that was a great idea, but it would be much harder to work in Cecelia

  • @RainbowSkillz
    @RainbowSkillz 8 месяцев назад +1

    Besides the home invasion part, I actually like your idea. And I’d love to see Dr. Gordon and Logan again.

  • @sirtorchington
    @sirtorchington 9 месяцев назад +2

    “I’m not a Hollywood writer…(at least not yet)” yess dude get it! I think you would be a great writer!

  • @bobzip3994
    @bobzip3994 9 месяцев назад +1

    bad not good. glad you dont right scrips for movies!!!

  • @ledsith
    @ledsith Месяц назад +1

    Your idea is horrible . Jigsaw continued to set traps and torture . He did not change . No facing his demons . This is why you are not a movie writer . Stick to RUclips videos .

  • @Merit2397
    @Merit2397 9 месяцев назад +2

    Anyone ever tell you that you should be writing for Hollywood Cody? Because man, you come up with some wildly great ideas. 💡👍

  • @LouiepTv
    @LouiepTv 9 месяцев назад +2

    I dig it! I feel like this is way more creative than what we'll end up getting lol.

  • @NamelessGamingNG
    @NamelessGamingNG 9 месяцев назад +2

    This pitch is incredible!! Always afraid after hearing an amazing pitch like this that the actual thing won't be as good in comparison

  • @WILIscredia
    @WILIscredia 9 месяцев назад +1

    Well, there’s quite a bit here to chew on, I GUARANTEE you’ve spent more time on this than the twisted pictures folks; which means you should just be doing a themed pitch wars for it - live or die…

    • @WILIscredia
      @WILIscredia 9 месяцев назад

      @@JohnKramerRules Dude, stop.

  • @jamesmiller7367
    @jamesmiller7367 9 месяцев назад +2

    This is actually a fantastic idea. You seem to have a knack for storytelling!

  • @jasonvoorhees310
    @jasonvoorhees310 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. Me personally as long as they focus on John Kramer as a character like in saw x I'll be happy. Can't believe it took as long as it did to get a movie solely around John but that's obviously what the fans want.

  • @Lasherluke
    @Lasherluke 5 месяцев назад

    This movie could also be John and Amanda vs Hoffman because Hoffman could question how John going after these people goes against what he taught him "It can never be personal."

  • @JoelKellenProductions
    @JoelKellenProductions 9 месяцев назад

    As interesting as this all sounds with Jigsaw playing a game and having to face the error of what he’s doing, I can see that potentially being a huge plot hole with Saw 2 and 3. If he realizes the damage he’s doing to his victims families, then why does he still do it? Especially in Saw 2, when he literally set a bunch of criminals loose in a locked house with the son of the cop that put them all away!

  • @Lasherluke
    @Lasherluke 5 месяцев назад

    I think an idea could be that Ceilia vs John could have it be Ceilia having John question how her cheating people out of money with her scam was any different from John forcing people to make a choice with their life because she could make the twisted argument that John took something that people value in life away from them keeping with her character of being a hypocritical scumbag in of herself while also challenging John on how taking away a limb is justifiable.

  • @Xehanort10
    @Xehanort10 9 месяцев назад

    13:09 Amanda's the only one whose involvement with John was actually built up. Hoffman went from a random cop investigating one of Amanda's rigged traps in 3 to suddenly being the new Jigsaw in 4, Gordon working with John made no sense and Logan wasn't even hinted at before Jigsaw.

  • @ChipCJ
    @ChipCJ 9 месяцев назад +4

    I loved this idea, I also love that while Amanda and Hoffman are fighting the entire time Logan and Gordon are being besties and got their shit together.

    • @CodyLeachYT
      @CodyLeachYT  9 месяцев назад +2

      Exactly! Glad you liked it.

    • @paintingcube3853
      @paintingcube3853 9 месяцев назад

      There's just ne problem I have with the pitched concept, how would this take John Kramer's arc to Saw 3,4? If he's being shown how terrible he is and must face himself a serious retcon will be needed. Jigsaw is not someone who ever showed he regretted what he's done. Unless yo would like to add in that Hoffman forces him to make these games we see in 3,4,5 and 6. And that these were games John Kramer wanted to abandon.
      Thus making Hoffman someone who was blackmailed into helping him, then he dicides he like being an accomplice, then he dicides to plan a way of maybe getting rid of Amanda who just does not care, she just wants to take care of kramer. Recontextualizing the quote she says to Hoffman, "I'm not going anywhere". She does not refer to really helping him as an accomplice anymore. But Hoffman still wants her gone so no one knows who he is. It could explain why John Kramer wanted his wife Jill Tuck to kill him, not test him, with the bear trap if she dicides. He knew she would probably be murdeered anyways and Hoffman would kill anyone.
      This would still make the timeline really convulted becuase it would mean Jigsaw had to have planned out all the games in 3-6 with tape recordings well before this idea you have in mind takes place. Then finally dicide to retire...only to have beafy boy lips over here say.......I want to play some games. 😂🤣😂
      There's no avoiding the soap opera saw. Or should I say "Blood Opera".@@CodyLeachYT

    • @paintingcube3853
      @paintingcube3853 9 месяцев назад +2

      I also think your idea for the grand reveal being the last victim John Kramer faces is a family member of a past Jigsaw victim, I would love for it to be Adam Stanhieght's mother or father.
      I don't think we need dr. Gordon or Logan though. Saw X worked because it was small in scale again, these two, XI and XII should remain that way as well since they're prequels.
      Just have Hoffman miraculously save this family member from their trap after they decide to refuse to be saved by the man that killed their son. Adam deserved better.

    • @gabrielelatorre22
      @gabrielelatorre22 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@paintingcube3853Infatti il concept è carino, ma non si collega bene alla saga

  • @salemslotandmore8278
    @salemslotandmore8278 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank You for the Video 😀

  • @2die4yt
    @2die4yt 9 месяцев назад +5

    I love how you can put together a rough outline for a script idea that I would find superior to the majority of the films in this franchise that actually had an entire team behind them 😂

  • @Lasherluke
    @Lasherluke 5 месяцев назад

    A cool idea to follow up on what you said is that it is revealed that the neighbour that was robbed is actually worse as they've been mainpulating the neighbourhood because rather then doing something meaningful with their life they would rather leach off the good nature of people, espically those that they form meaingful relationships with.

  • @kai-yo-tay8962
    @kai-yo-tay8962 13 дней назад

    I know it is unlikely to happen, but I would actually like to see a SAW movie in the distant past. It would be interesting to see a younger John Kramer in like the 50s or 60s.

  • @XTHHedgehog
    @XTHHedgehog 9 месяцев назад +1

    If the trilogy plays out like these pitches, it could seriously beat out Saw 1, 2, and 3 as a trilogy. I really want to see all of the apprentices work together.

  • @joeb1744
    @joeb1744 9 месяцев назад +1

    F*Chen epic!

  • @trelwarren
    @trelwarren День назад

    I’m watching this video like I know the lore..I’ve only seen Jigsaw

  • @andrewfernandez8016
    @andrewfernandez8016 5 месяцев назад

    Thought (piggy back)
    Keep everything you just said, and the “Avengers” happens in the third film. Well maybe in the third movie, it appears that Gordon dies. Obviously he doesn’t, but then he would make his appearance in Saw 3D and that’s why Hoffman was shocked

  • @AP0110_Rings
    @AP0110_Rings Месяц назад

    It started off pretty bad, but after a few minutes, it grew on me. Very interesting concept. It wouldn’t be my favorite of the series, but it would probably be high in terms of story plot. The traps might not be that good because Cecelia is not John Kramer level in traps unless she just so happens to know stuff about traps all of a sudden, but yeah really cool plot overall and a great setup for a Avengers type deal with the 3 part of this story! REALLY great idea!

  • @certified_loner3639
    @certified_loner3639 3 месяца назад +1

    “LET CODY COOK”

  • @TC-ex5fr
    @TC-ex5fr 9 месяцев назад

    NO.. Hoffman knew Amanda was at Jills clinic and Cecil pushes the door after grabbing drugs killing the baby

  • @JoeHight75
    @JoeHight75 9 месяцев назад

    All of these flicks involve Kramer's supposed morality, but it wasn't until Saw X that we saw Jigsaw in a more heroic light. Seems like the secret to invigorating the franchise has been unlocked....pit Jigsaw against people who are bigger dickheads than he is. I hope they can stick the landing with the next two films and end it gracefully, because I adored Saw X.

  • @JimiJames92
    @JimiJames92 9 месяцев назад

    I love your videos, dude, but I personally don't want or feel the need for any more prequel films. I think it confuses the timeline. I also don't want Cecila back, I feel if she caused that much havoc, she would have at least been mentioned somewhere in the other movies. Also with Logan, we know he wasn't around during the time period so that wouldn't work.
    But I gotta appreciate the time you've put into these! Would love to hear you pitch a legacy Nightmare sequel

  • @theoneeyecleftguy9419
    @theoneeyecleftguy9419 9 месяцев назад

    I like your idea!! I think they have already set up, in Saw X, retconning Jigsaw ever dying. I am not saying that would ge a good idea per se..but many involved in the first 7 movies have publically stated killing off John Kramer was a bad idea.

  • @nahi1640
    @nahi1640 9 месяцев назад

    U spoiled Saw xi cody bc am sure Lions gate is already stealing this pitch knowing how amazing pitch it is for Saw XI🤩 i loved this whole pitch woww🔥🔥 let's go Lions Gate show us this on big screen😎

  • @hideandseekofficialuk
    @hideandseekofficialuk 9 месяцев назад

    Here's my pitch...
    John Cramer knowing his end was near , cryogenically froze some of his own stem cells,
    Putting I to place apprentice after apprentice to carry the ethos of his mission forward throughout time, until the day technology has advanced enough to clone him, this cult of followers then cares for him and raises him to adulthood,
    John using his skills in engineering coupled with technological advancements ,invents time travel and comes back to the late 00s to re write his legacy.. cancer free and with advance tech.
    😅

  • @JDubs9999
    @JDubs9999 9 месяцев назад

    Good pitch. I get the conundrum with Dr. Gordon, but I feel there is a bigger problem with Logan. I don’t think Logan is a character that people like and was a weird addition to the lore. Him showing up here makes sense, but his later appearance would probably be weirder than it originally was. Other than that, the idea is definitely a movie I’d watch.

  • @darkomortyc-1323
    @darkomortyc-1323 9 месяцев назад +1

    How would u feel if u got to co- screen write with the screenwriter of Saw X. And play an extra in the film? That would be awesome. Hella fantasize about that all the time.

  • @williamseerden5731
    @williamseerden5731 9 месяцев назад

    I liked this. Good ideas.
    My main issue is what would John Kramer do with this self-exposure. It seems from the films he would ignore it.
    In Saw XII I would like to see an interesting reason as to why he disregards his self-reflection other then simple psychosis
    But overall interesting ideas you had.

  • @shakenbake3249
    @shakenbake3249 9 месяцев назад +1

    PLEASE MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS!!! Love these kinds of videos and would love to see more of your ideas!

  • @samuelvela2708
    @samuelvela2708 8 месяцев назад

    Honestly, with how absurd and ridiculous the series is getting, hear me out...
    Saw XI opens with an innocent person being murdered, and it is revealed that John Kramer happens to see it out of the corner of his eye. John gets a glimpse of the assailant's license plate as he flees the crime scene. As soon as he recites it aloud, John picks up his phone and gives our favorite detective a ring, and tells him there is "someone in need of their assistance". We now cut to about a month later, and the unsuspecting murderer is now living on the run. However, as he takes a few sips of water, he soon becomes disoriented, eventually falling to the floor, but not before he notices a (very familiar) pig mask down the hall. The masked figure approaches him, and the screen goes black...
    We cut to the infamous tape from John playing over a black screen, and as the scene is slowly lit, it is revealed that this murderer has been put into a space suit, and is currently in orbit. The tape reveals that this person is, in fact, a serial killer who has committed murders in many different nations for many years, and has been in hiding. Jigsaw's whole schtick in this killer's game is that he must "either die in isolation that he imposed on himself to avoid punishment, or return to a world that will bring consequences for his actions".
    As the monologue ends, the Saw XI title card is displayed, and then the games begin...

  • @KellogsR-ny7ug
    @KellogsR-ny7ug 9 месяцев назад

    My idea is to actually pick up where saw seven left off and actually focus on John’s disciples, their own translations of John’s already fucked up sense of moralism, their feud with one another and how it gradually ends up shaping the world around
    I’m in a love/hate relationship with the first two movies were interesting but after that, while I still liked the concept, each film focused way too much on the traps
    I know saw came out when the cineplex industry was decaying so they had to pick a format that inevitably got butts in the seats but still: it’s disappointing and it’s frustrating how even now with the franchise partially rebooted they’re still backtracking

  • @rushalmakwana
    @rushalmakwana 9 месяцев назад

    Real Reason, Great Saint Sri Adi Shankracharya roamed entire country, and challenged all scholars of Buddhism and Jainism for debate and proved that real vedic sanatan way is right way and condition was whoever lose they will accept other way or worship. Buddhism and janisim branch of sanatan and they are good for some but not for masses. Vedic sanatan way is right way.

  • @Faithygurlll
    @Faithygurlll 9 месяцев назад

    I hope dr Gordon doesn’t die he is my favorite character 😢. I know Cary elwes they guy who plays dr Gordon doesn’t want to be part of the saw franchise anymore something happened between him and some people so I guess he wasn’t coming back anyway I guess that’s a fair point to kill him off I do love his character though

  • @ParkerEvans-fe5ec
    @ParkerEvans-fe5ec 9 месяцев назад

    For my theories I think it will open with John going to the hospital where he will find out that he is going to die and John tells his doctor that this time he will “die easy” he will go and visit Amanda and she will say that she has found the doctor lady from Saw III and he will say that he needs to except it.
    Cecilia calls Mark Hoffman and tells him that he has to bring her John Kramer or else she will kill a child who John lives next too. Hoffman tells John who calls Cecilia to get a location on where to go
    John goes to the warehouse and gets knocked out by Cecilia in a pig mask. John wakes up in a bathroom very similar to the room from Saw 1. John opens the door to the bathroom and inside a person is in a trap. The trap would by called the floss and there would be string attached to the persons teeth. Cecilia comes out into the room and tells the person in the trap the rules, and the person starts the trap but ends up getting her throat pulled out.
    John yells at Cecilia but she pulls a gun on her.
    John walks back and continues to save people from traps but the final one is a child who live next to John. Jigsaw tries to save the kid but relives that the kid is gonna die, but there is 30 seconds left so John uses his skills with making traps and John stops it and saves the kid. Hoffman and Amanda make it to the warehouse and Hoffman attempts to kill Cecilia while Amanda goes to see John.
    John tells Hoffman to spare her but Hoffman puts a reverse bear trap on her and John accepts that she should die
    And in Saw XII the kids from the end of Saw X and Saw XI would be revealed to be the two people who helped Gordon in Saw 3D. And Gordon and those two will try to continue his legacy but Logan and Hoffman are also trying to and the ooh cat killer from Spiral is trying to copy John but the main detective guy from Spiral tries to take them all down

  • @nobleking7636
    @nobleking7636 Месяц назад

    Dude watching this video makes me excited for the next movie! But I do have to disagree with your opinion of hoff man! He's a very interesting character and one of my favorites

  • @docbrown2045
    @docbrown2045 9 месяцев назад

    Great idea. But Dr. Gordon faking his own death seems to be too complicated. Besides, Hoffman is a detective and probably can verify if that's the case. I would change that to Gordon just being done and retired after death of John, so he isn't a direct threat to Hoffman.

  • @connornoiles2447
    @connornoiles2447 9 месяцев назад

    Maybe she's Detective Sting's sister, the guy who got blown away by the shotgun trap.. Or even related to Tapp..

  • @dogsbreakfast4952
    @dogsbreakfast4952 Месяц назад

    Just recently discovered your channel and I am loving it ! New subscriber!

  • @sunnyboy3244
    @sunnyboy3244 5 месяцев назад

    Wouldn’t make sense to do things that way cuz mid movie he was already creating blueprints for the rack and several other traps early in the saw serious. Plus how x ended he won’t retire from being jigsaw

  • @hoodyoda3575
    @hoodyoda3575 9 месяцев назад

    @cody Or Logan and Gordon don’t show themselves to Amanda and Hoffman only John he’s not in the game anymore just them two. And when they ask John how did he get them out he just says you have to plan out every factor like I’ve told you the human brain is easy to understand once you look at every outcome 😊

  • @lukezeidler4433
    @lukezeidler4433 9 месяцев назад

    A bit that i keep thinking about involves zep hindle. In saw he's in a controller role like art blank in saw 4. Art gets that role after completing his previous test. I don't know where it would fit but seeing zeps potential first test would be interesting at some point. Maybe too late for it's necessity with him dying during dr Gordon's first test.

  • @CocainBuzz
    @CocainBuzz 9 месяцев назад

    Apparently it takes place between Saw 2&3
    at that point saw sequels are just there to fill gaps between old sequels just as an excuse to use as much Tobin Bell screen time as they can.
    As long as it's not too stupid I'm all for it

  • @Cianms2k10
    @Cianms2k10 9 месяцев назад +1

    I think that this pitch is fantastic, the only gripe I have is unfortunately in Saw 3D, Dr Gordon is shown in the flashback receiving the note from Jill at the hospital, implying that he is still a practicing doctor and that it’s public knowledge that he is still alive. He also appears at the AA meeting which is televised. Other than that, I think you can do the same idea without Dr Gordon and maybe have the Kid from Saw X involved somehow

  • @falconpunch8841
    @falconpunch8841 9 месяцев назад +1

    This idea for Saw 11 is sick!
    I can imagine Doctor Gordon saving the day for sure. (I think Logan if overseas though?)
    I can also see the 4 of them placing Cecilia in a trap at the film's conclusion, but Amanda let's her die by making the trap unwinnable. I imagine Ceceilia is being dragged towards a death machine, and she has to saw through her arm/wrist to escape. Amanda however removes the saw from Cecilia's reach. Amanda would point a gun at John as Cecilia is dragged into the trap. Like a real intense stare-off between Amanda and John with Lawrence and Mark unable to intervene (given her emotional state). This would be the Amanda we see in Saw 3 who is a complete mess. This is also why John shapes a game around Amanda having to keep someone alive.

  • @llamasmatter5972
    @llamasmatter5972 9 месяцев назад

    This was pretty fantastic. However at this point in the timeline wasn’t Logan still overseas or struggling with PTSD so he couldn’t really be in it right?

  • @mannylopez355
    @mannylopez355 9 месяцев назад +1

    Let’s hope for something good Cody

  • @tylertheguy3160
    @tylertheguy3160 6 месяцев назад

    When it comes to the series going back to annual releases, I don't mean this in a dickish way but Tobin Bell is getting pretty up there in age and it wouldn't surprise me if they're trying to get him to be in as many movies as he can while he's still around.

  • @toddlacroix8992
    @toddlacroix8992 9 месяцев назад

    I sorta want a orgin story for john like yea we saw what he did in saw x but i want a movie that explains how he created all these traps and what caused him to just snap yk and then later we go back after the events of saw x with what you said yk him living his life, accepting that he's gonna die, no more cures just living at peace then something happens that'll make him snap and the girl in the gas trap during the end of saw x yk appears and does her traps similar to johns but more cruel and deadly ik its dark but tbh isn't the saw movies in general a dark type of movie

  • @jacoblofthus7908
    @jacoblofthus7908 9 месяцев назад

    Honestly, I'm down for whatever they decide to take the franchise next. As long as it's got the pig masks and the traps it can't be that bad.

  • @conradfrancis3174
    @conradfrancis3174 3 месяца назад

    What if the final twist was Jigsaw chooses hoffman to live but just as amanda is about to die her trap dosent kill her because the traps mechanical device fails because cecilia isnt a top engineer which makes amanda have that anger

  • @BIGSITV
    @BIGSITV 9 месяцев назад

    The Hoffman trap won’t work. In a flashback in saw 6 Amanda says to Hoffman when’s your test and he replies I don’t need one.

  • @jasonbarker8266
    @jasonbarker8266 9 месяцев назад

    Hoffman write a letter to Amanda saying he knew she was with Cecil when his wife Jill lost her baby with John , so he said kill the doctor Lyn in saw 3 or he would tell john what she did and he would know all will die and he wouldn’t be black mailed by John no more , as John black mailed Hoffman to join him you need to go back and re watch them .

  • @kuakilyissombroguwi
    @kuakilyissombroguwi 3 месяца назад

    To be on the tenth film without a reboot and have it be a banger is an absolute marvel imo. You'd be hard pressed to find another horror franchise with that accomplishment.

  • @ronmoney5236
    @ronmoney5236 9 месяцев назад

    Like the overall idea but how would she only know about 2 apprentices if she has been studying john so much. Seems like bs

  • @ZachGraves1
    @ZachGraves1 9 месяцев назад

    This is cool, jw I might have missed it but what is Jill doing this whole time?? Nice ideas very Saw like story. I could see it now

  • @matsernn
    @matsernn 9 месяцев назад

    I love this brother. Fuck, i want this movie 😂 Can’t wait for 11. LOVE Saw

  • @ByPhenomenal22
    @ByPhenomenal22 9 месяцев назад

    this whas a very very nice pitch pretty good story aswell to unfold more of whats missing lovely i like it loads. you might be on to something.we are all in a game called the waiting game. wait or die, make your choice

  • @SuperBrooklynite007
    @SuperBrooklynite007 9 месяцев назад

    I hope they add a trap that would match the feel of the first three that felt like they were uping the ante like the Vian trap to Venus fly trap to the rack. I feel like nothing yet has outdone the rack though I feel that the spiral blade motorcycle break trap in jigsaw came close.

  • @willdefehr5039
    @willdefehr5039 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hey man big fan of your channel for years now. I love this idea! Keep ‘em coming Cody!

  • @Hicks-g1m
    @Hicks-g1m 9 месяцев назад +1

    I really like this Idea for Saw 11 Cody I wish you could direct Saw 11

    • @CodyLeachYT
      @CodyLeachYT  9 месяцев назад +2

      I have no business directing anything lol

    • @bingewatcherfanatic996
      @bingewatcherfanatic996 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@CodyLeachYTyou definitely need to pitch your idea to Lionsgate.

  • @sarahrebeyrat8930
    @sarahrebeyrat8930 25 дней назад

    This is so so so good, but now I’m way too hyped to wait for the release haha. Great vid!

  • @TheNightCrawler84
    @TheNightCrawler84 9 месяцев назад +1

    I loved this pitch, I think this would be a perfect continuation from Saw X! Please do more videos like this, I want to see what other ideas you have for other franchises.

  • @MrKoobear
    @MrKoobear 9 месяцев назад

    Daniel Matthews(son of Det. Eric Matthews) comes back for XI ?!

  • @polishsnipez7_593
    @polishsnipez7_593 9 месяцев назад +1

    I think Dr Gordon would be a nice twist at some point