Millyard Racing down hill mountain bike MR002, How its made
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- Опубликовано: 2 сен 2020
- In this video i talk about the MR002 down hill mountain bike, a bit of its history and how parts of it were made. We then test ride the MR002 at the 'Pedal a bike away bike" park in the Forrest of Dean, check out stephen_millyard on instagram. I will be making a separate video soon on the HyperRide2 shock and forks, what its like to ride, including rider testimonials and telemetry data.
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As a person interested in both MTB and Motorbikes I stumbled across your videos and left astounded. You're a true legend and I'm questioning if my engineering degree is valid after seeing this. Truly humbled by your skills.
who else smiles when the phone scenes come on? Allen you are a true genius!!
Yeah how could you not
I have a bit newer version.....it’s mustard colour.....styling !
There not cheap them phones anymore..bizarrely ,everybody had them years ago
It’s fun shooting the phone sequences 🎥
I smiled because the first thing that came to mind was; a Millennial would have trouble operating this thing.
you've done more for bike's in your shed than all bike manufacturers have done in the last 100 yrs , amazing stuff
You made my brother a mech hanger out of a frying pan for his broken orange patriot at a BDS race in like 2008.
Thats when i first learned what engineers are supposed to be.
I was always helping out with repairs at the races 🙈
@@AllenMillyard so you my man are a tru legend ✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻
Calling You a genius would be an understatement.
Leonardo jr
Calling him god is more like it
@@nunnukanai7602 LOL!! that is a fair comparison ... God made the earth in 7 days, and Allen made a bike in 12 mins !!!
Now thats a dream bike if I ever saw one its beautiful in both how it looks and in engineering terms
Agreed
This guy is one of the most under appreciated engineers I've ever encountered.
I understand that it must've been hideously expensive to produce but why hasn't it been funded to be available to more people?
Pure genius.
It would wipe out the multi £million after sales market of spare parts 🙈
@@AllenMillyard Surely to discerning customers that wouldn't matter?
@@jayr6666 But it would to the likes of Shimano as they make a packet from selling replacement new parts for ones that have failed as Allen wrote above.
@@alexmorgan3435 Yup, agree. But patenting the parts and engineering thereof would obviously negate that.
You have obviously heard about the struggle Mr Dyson had with trying to get his cyclone vacuum cleaner to market... but look at him now! 🤔
Fascinating stuff. Seems well ahead of it's time even now. I love the thought of a near zero maintenance drivetrain with derailleur to smash off. You sir are a genius 🙌
Many are asking for MTB gearboxes to catch on, but the MTB racing economy dictates the consumer production line. You are a true pioneer! Saving up for a future Gearbox in my price range possibly still only an idea for a future engineer.
All mountain bikes should be made like this.
I'm poor enough already thanks...
@@Metal-Possum PMSL.
Should, but the price would increase immensely, and they are already expensive !!
Meh. Not a fan of the unbalanced weight due to the rear, and a simple one dimensional triangle like on most bikes seems like it would be just as strong and lighter than the crane-arm-like frame. I’m not a bike builder but just my two cents.
Mass production makes things cheaper.. well it should
Where's the "add to cart" button, Allen?
Go find him if U got the coin pay him a hourly rate and 15 % on materials and consumables.
I don't think you have much change left out of 30,000
But you will have one of the best MTB ever
ya, where is it
No Brakes honestly the next best thing would be to get build plans from Allen. I’ve been think about pitching it to him. the hardest thing to me is putting a price on even a proper diagram of his artistry to study and attempt building.
LOL. I thought you wrote: "Alien". It still works. . .
Yeah, that would be nice to add to cart! Some company should produce these!! I know most everyone would want and get one, if it was available and affordable to the masses! This bike was and is so far ahead of it's time, but I think its time to offer to the public!? I only wish maybe someday? Looks like he could add a battery to it make it battery powered as well?! I just need one of these bad real bad!!
I was always blown away by your motorcycle builds. I cannot believe I have only just discovered this downhill bike build. Mate, you are an utter genius. As a mountain biker, this engineering masterpiece would give me so much joy.
Love your no-nonsense and informative videos.
I am still amazed Allen that you haven't been listed under "the official secrets act". It's people like you that change the way we all live and drag the rest of us behind you.
For your next project can you sort out this Covid 19.........we could all be "well pleased" with that!
I hope your son realises he has one of the best dads on the planet....
"the best" along with Colin furze
Your son must of been so proud telling people his dad had made his bike from scratch, i hardly seen my old man he was always in the pub.... what a great person & a great dad you are
Phil
Thanks Phil
Astounding! Your intelligence and skill is only surpassed by your humility and kindness in sharing this video. Heart felt thanks and massive respect. A legend in your own time , history will feature you very highly and frequently. I'm in awe. Thank you Regards Gareth Wiltshire. Gratitude. Quality. Respect.
Lowkey kinda cute
He is not just a genius but an all round automotive sage, and all round nice guy. This bike needs to be studied by many so called manufacturers. The gearbox alone is an engineering work of art. Beautiful!!
I agree about the genius. Allan is a great, thoughtful and innovative engineer. What makes his work special is his creativity and thinking outside of the box as to what could be done. I wonder if he has any failures projects that just didn't work out as envisaged?
PS the bikes space frame reminds me of a Moulton.
the core of the gearbox is actually a Shimano Alfine Hub Gear (sg-s700 if you look at the video at 8:30 ) - the magic comes from how Allen modified it to be used as a mid-bike gearbox system.
This needs to be featured on the gmbn tech show because it is awesome. I'm sending Doddy a link to this video.
I did as well.
Please don't. There not worthy. They like to play with shop bikes. And talk to much. This man is way above that.. way way above that. . Allen. You should put a "made in Taiwan" sticker on it just for a laugh. .
@@infadel66 i rekon he would get a lot of praise and recognition from gmbn tech, i know they are a bit corporate but you gotta be to make a living nowadays haven't you?
i agree tho the guys a fekkin genius
doddy sucks. allen is a legend. gmbn tech sucks also.
Don't ever get GMBN involved . Full of spoiled brats and editors who only care about big name brands that make average s tuff
So why has the international bike industry still not caught up with Allen and his shed ?
This just makes all that external chain and derailleur stuff look daft.
Huge after sales market of spares perhaps for crappy derailleurs, chain rings and sprockets?
Maybe true about the parts and after market profits. It seems like if one company actually cracked a lightweight internal gearbox with a shaft drive or cased chain for a good enough price then it would take off and everyone would make them. It is similar to the issues Mike Burrows ( of lotus bike fame) had, he kept innovating and the UCI banned all his ideas.
I think GT made a DH bike with a gearbox, it2 it was called if I remember correctly, one benefit with a centered gearbox is weight distribution, but maybe on a downhill bike the forks are heavy enough to counterbalance the derraileur and gear hub.
Bit hard to sell yearly upgrades then.
Look up zerode bikes
My jaw is gonna be on the floor all day! Love the old KLG plug at 4:17. These days it seems kids are not shown the joy of working with their hands and making STUFF.
I regularly come back to both videos.
I remember reading about it in dirt magazine in 2007 and it has never left my mind ever since. This, to this day, is still the epitome of engineering as far as i am concerned (in the MTB industry, of course)
Most people remember Honda's attempt and were swayed by the shiny toy from a reputable motorcycle company, however, the ML bikes are, to this day, the measuring stick against which all so called revolutionnary MTB should be measured.
Thank you for those 2 videos, they are truly important.
I love how the English say “I was well pleased with that” 🙂
Allen, I can remember when my boy Jack got into Down Hill Mountainbiking, and I was totally unaware as to how much they cost. It was a steep learning curve, and I saw them as being very poor value for money. It is amazing that you just made one.
all bikes are poor value for money the industry has snowballed out of control on prices but hey everyone will pay it because it's the norm
This is exactly why I decided to build my own, value for application that didn't need massive amounts of money to be competitive
@@jonathangofast559 if you can built your own you are extremely skilled
That's why I build a handmade DH MTB , on my Chanel if you interest
Dad is a genius. And his son has talent aswell. Kudos!
Do they ever come up for sale? Truly beautiful pieces of engineering 👌🏼😊
WoW that is one hell of a bike. I can't believe it's so old it looks very modern.
I have to say Allen. Please don’t stop making these videos. You are very inspirational to us younger guys. I love to see someone go about what they want to do and make it happen not just sit and wonder if it will work.
I stumbled upon your videos by mistake. You are a wizard. I hope that you get the recognition that you so obviously deserve. The design is so radical (for me) that I struggle to think how you came up with it, let alone manufacture it. This is legend material. It reminds me of John Britten.
Allen Millyard is a true British engineering genius. There is NO comparable engineer in Britain, if not in the world. 👍🇬🇧
Don’t forget Mike Burrows (sadly no longer with us), he was a formidable engineer too, I’d look him up for I were you. 🤓
That's simply not true 😅
I am a young engineer and you are a big inspiration with what you do, thanks for the videos🙏🏻
A few days ago I fitted a new derailleur hanger and jockey wheels to my road bike and they fitted perfect. Then, on a short test ride, I noticed that the shifting was a bit off, so I adjusted the cable and it shifted perfect. Then, I put the kettle on, and gave myself the day off.
Brilliant 😎
So you mean you didn't throw the bike out and design a new one from scratch? what a rookie
@@benjaminrogers9848 Gotta be honest, by the time I'd done all that AND put the kettle on, I didn't even manage to finish making the tea. I noticed that the cup was round but the teabag was square, so I put it in the lathe and then, well I just gave up really.
@@robbutler2601 I remembered that I'd left the round teabags at the shop, so I called my friend at the grocers who had them delivered to my door 30 seconds later. In this comment, I'll show you how I used four of the round teabags to create infinitely variable transfer port timing in my kawasaki 500-4. I'll be making tea in another video.
@@martinjefferies666 😂😂😂
So inspiring. You are a legend in moto, Allen. I loved reading about your projects in the magazines. Thank you so much for sharing your projects with us.
Dont care what anyone says this bike is the best out there even to this day well done Allen genius
Hi Allen, fantastic range of bikes you have made, you refered to the gearbox 's ability to change in virtually any direction, if possible.. (and understand if you don't want to) would you make a video on the gearbox unit, as I'm sure many would have a real interest in how it works. Enjoyed this video mate, as usual thank you for sharing with us. Cheers, Alex.
Looks like he's using a modified Shimano Alfine hub on the bikes (Alfine 8 originally and 11 on the update).
You should be able to figure out how this is done with a bit of googling. There was at least one bike produced with a similar system. The tricky part is getting the drive off the hub. Usually you secure the axle and the hub shell would be your drive but I don't see why you couldn't secure the hub shell and use the axle to drive a sprocket though rotation would be reversed I think.
@@Surestick88 No need for overcomplicating stuff. On one side you are normaly conected to crank thru chain. On other side you mounting second sprocket instead of disc.
Exactly, he took a internal gear hub. If you put one of those hubs in a vice and spin the hubshell, the output on the sprocket will be more than that. So whatever he did with the hub, it works perfect as internal gearing without it being 'a hub' anymore.
I'm just not completely sold on the shifting under power argument. I've definitely seen ig hubs have a hard time when you do that. But you can definitely mod the internals for it to 'act' more competitive.
I wish i had any metals fabrication experience. This seems like it's done in such a simplistic manner yet the results are craaazy!
@@Surestick88 Yup! I just saw your post now! That is my guess also!
Ciniese want to see it too there running out of things to copy.
Absolutely blown away by this.
Amazing work.
This bike is gorgeous and it’s an engineering work of art. You are such a skilled talent!
What comes out that shed and garage is simply amazing!
Your work is and will be inspirational for generations and then some!
Great work Alan, it’s fantastic to see the use of straight forward engineering, like using a simple keyway for the rear hub to make bikes far ahead of the big companies that still work great all these years later. 👍
I just love this bike from top to bottom... beautifully industrial absolutely the tool for the job.
Hats off guys!
You are incredible Allen. Your engineering and fabrication skills never fail to amaze me.
Fabulous bicycle way ahead of its time still ahead of its time my God I want one... Mr. Milliard how wonderful of an engineer are you amazing. Hammerhead...
This is perfection! Like everyone's saying, this system would be amazing on all bikes. Changing gear under load, the way that suspension sticks too the floor. A job very well done
I watched the GMBN episode about the LALBikes innovation, i suddenly stopped mid way and suddenly remembered i watched this Millyard episode long time ago. This Millyard is for me by far one of the greatest innov in the biking world, specially mountain biking...
Every time a watch a video from Allen or about Allen, I can't take my eyes and ears away from the video. The stuff that this guy makes and creates is amazing! He's see a problem or needs a bit to stand back and figure things out and wham next thing you lnow he's out there making the correct pieces! Incredible!
This bike makes the rest simply obsolete!! Congrats again Allen!
One of the best looking bikes I've ever seen. Such an amazing story. I've seen your stuff multiple times on pinkbike but didn't know you had a youtube channel.
Very quiet in the drivetrain dept. and looks totally at home on the lines that it was ridden over. Very impressive
Allen, overall brilliant design, the upgraded gearbox and fixed HD keyway axle is a winner, perfect bike :)
What an excellent design - thoroughly well thought-out and carefully implemented. The rear end design with the gearbox, chain and arm as an integral piece - ohhh, wow. A lovely bit of stuff and clearly a confidence booster for the rider. Great video!
No end to your talents, & your enthusiasm is blooming brilliant, top job mate
It was only the other week I commented on your other video requesting this one! Sir you are a complete genius! I would absolutely love to see what goes off inside your head!
Proper genius engineering 👏
Well done Allen, always fantastic to see someone doing their own thing with what they've got, and doing it well. Some great ingenuity in there. Keep it up!
So, the most innovative mountain bike design I've seen since late 90s Cannondale came out of one man's shed. Amazing work!
the mr002 to bicycles is what the sr71 is to aviation. absolute masterpiece.
love the analogy, so true
I was up late last night watching a British salvage hunter show - and there you were buying a trials bike!
Allen never ceases to amaze. Just brilliant engineering. Everything fits just perfect. The gearbox alone is years ahead of its time.
This is how all mountain bikes should be made. Simply beautiful. I would love see more mountain biking content, Allen. Absolute Legend.
Awesome!
Been waiting for this one for WAYY too long now! ✅💯👌🏼
You’re a fabricating genius, I wish I could buy one of those.
It’s so rare that I come across a functional work of art that performs. This is one of them.
Beautiful work in every regard!
I cannot tell you how much I love this video. Bikes. Engineering. Top chaps. Subscribed.
Thanks for this Allen, I just love it. (You just made a 54 year old mountain bikers day 😁)
crazy how quiet that bike is, would love to see the internals of that drive system.
Viktor Sligo it’s a modified Shimano Alfine 11 - not to take anything away from Allen I think we all know he could make one from scratch if he needed to
yep alfine 11 hub, GT IT1 had an alfine hub mid mounted back in the day as well, ive still got one in the shed
Who got there 1st Shimano or Allan?
I know who my money is on!
@@williamarmstrong7199 Shimano make the hub. Other fabricators use it to different effect. The was a bike, Lehir, in the late 90's that used the Rohloff mid mounted. It's not new but the internal chain line is a different way of doing it and that's what is cool about these bikes.
@@devlinsgd1971 yes, it's the real innovative aspect. Would be cool to see this bike optimized for weight (it looks heavy) and a Cannondale lefty fork
Beautiful Allen, I remember them at the time. A real work of art.
Mr. Milliyard, your fabrication, machining skills never cease to amaze me.
Allen the engineering on this DH bike is still way ahead of it's time. Mountain bikers may understand this bike by 2030...... Maybe.
The lad has caught your genius, Al, just in a slightly different direction.
Another fabulous creation, I love the silent running without the chain and derailleur clattering, such a vulnerable part on a MTB. Also enjoying the phone scenes on these later videos :)
I’m blown away by design engineers and inventors like this guy, just incredible!
This is literally the answer to the question what if industry standards in MTB did not exist.
The enclosed drive train and quick release rear wheel is amazing and I love the way the gears change so precisely. Why is it not in mass production? That was a fast ride around the Forest of Dean. Great video as always, Thanks.
I'm sure with some funding, patreon or cr kickstater. this bike will be a hit..
@@canobenitez
Two many proprietary parts.
Unfortunately that's almost always a bad deal.
A man with his hands ,tools and knowledge... PURE GENIUS!!! Awesome, Thanks for sharing your knowledge
this single swing arm set up with internal gearing so revolutionary... thanks for sharing the video and making these bikes ...
I'm sure major manufacturers would put this into production Allen. Any chance of that happening? It's much better than any other design out there to get rid of the slappy chain issue. Excellent work as always Sir.
Brilliant job on that bike Allen!
I've never undetstood why bike tech development has remained so stagnant over a long period of time!
Essentially my current mountain bike uses virtually the same tech and design as my Raleigh racing bike from way back in the late 1970s!
Same rubber rim brakes, same derailleur gears !!!
Fully enclosed gearing system should be the norm now!! 😎👍
It’s all down to after market sales of parts that break rather than making a bike that’s maintance free 🙈
Well because most people don't want a gearbox that weighs 10lbs. Most people don't care about shifting while not moving and I'm one of them.
Oh....to be young & fit again! The bike still looking like it was made yesterday & performing like a champ, great stuff Allan.
that is the trickest, most durable bike I’ve seen. luv it!
These programmes are so much better than the ones Our Hero appears in on Alzheimer's TV. Why doesn't Channel X simply rebroadcast these?
In days gone by AM would have been a top designer at a British motorcycle company (do you remember those days): Edward Turner, without the arrogance.
Amazing how quiet it is without the derailleur noise.
What about that very obvious squeaking though?
Thank you Allen lovely to see your talents lie in so many areas I can watch your vids end to end for hours
Amazing piece of work. So many original ideas! Good looking and practical.
INSTANT like!
You have to ask Sam pilgrim to test it! That would be a great collaboration!
Your work ethic and skill set are an inspiration to me Allen. Thanks!
Another amazing video. Or what I like to call lockdown therapy. Please continue sharing your ingenious creations!
I love that phone, I've said it before and I will say it again, I bloody love that phone
Specialized need to hire this guy now
One can only imagine how alive this bike would feel with Etype technology added to the amazing millyard geometry Tyvm for sharing.
Always wanted an MTB w a sealed gearbox, makes so much sense for the type of rider I am. I absolutely love your design.
Love that trellis style frame and that gearbox is nuts. Have you considered making an e-bike version with that gearbox?
It looks like it's a slightly modified Shimano Alfine. The 8-Speed was the 500 now on the newer 11-Speed 700 version. He could fit the 705 and have electronic shifting :-)
Internal belt drive from a pinion would get the weight lower and wouldnt need oil to lube the belt and less likely to slip underload.. ive had a bit of bother with alfines in the past (zerode owner) my g1 is now sporting a 3000w motor in place instead
That is a fantastic idea i would love to see that!! What would also be nice is if it could be made so that when its free running like downhill it puts some charge into the batteries like an alternator on a car and also have pedals so when the battery is low you can just pedal and charge it. im not sure on the practicalities or engineering of this sort of thing though it may not be feasible
@@TotoGuy-Original it won't happen - regen motors are direct drive (no freewheeling) and heavy
@@alexhaworth what about dynamos don't see those any more though
As DH and Enduro anorak guy I'm truly impressed but I can tell that the fork damping is crap on that old fox 40. Still room to improve over the newer damping designs and you are the right guy for it.
THIS IS BRILLIANT 👏 this needs to be on the market.
Wow the U.K. Should be Proud to have someone like you in the Mountain bike 🚵♂️ community. Father and son so awesome! That bike is a bomber on down hills.
Genius hand made !! Beautiful cycle!!
man you gotta put a "lefty" suspension in that bike. It will by awesome.
I know! or a "righty! cool asimmetry.
Brilliant , top drawer brilliant !
How much does it weigh ?
Has the rear shock got rebound damping or does it not need it - seemed to snap back really quick ?
I'm away to google epicyclic gears .
Great stuff , best channel on youtube , thanks, .
There is perfect rebound damping when riders weight is on the bike, the rider is the engine, try taking the engine out of a motorcycle and compressing the suspension it would bounce up exactly the same with out the mass damping effect of the engine weight 😎
@@AllenMillyard Thanks Allan , yes it makes sense .
I'm fed up with all the chain clanking and worrying about what side I lay the bike down on when it goes into the car etc . The enclosed chain on an offroad bike makes so much sense . Great design mate , great .
@@AllenMillyard Hey Allen, How much does your MR002 weigh? Thanks from Northern California..!
I'm envious of your know how .... Everything you touch turns to gold
My father made me a motorbike out of a lawnmower when i was 7, still my hero but this is next level. Thanks for this video, truly amazing ingenuity and your son is a proper DH rider!
My dad was born in 1931 , and was a fitter and turner , he could file anything perfectly, and sharpen drills perfectly. Your rear axle must be strong. I see a single front fork coming soon
Cannondale Lefty.