Does the 14 inch MacBook Pro have worse performance, thermals, and battery?

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  • Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2024

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  • @lukemiani
    @lukemiani  3 года назад +149

    Would you be put off about buying a 14” M1 Pro MacBook after seeing this video? UPDATE: Vadim and Max Tech and I have discussed differences in temperatures we saw, and it turns out iStatistica hasn't been updated in a while to feature node temps for the SOC, so the numbers we saw were broadly for much of the rest of the system. While the SOC does get hotter, I still found in my test that surface temperatures and fan noise wasn't as bad as what they found in their test. Definitely an interesting conundrum!

    • @JerrySchulze
      @JerrySchulze 3 года назад +19

      I compared 14 and 16 M1 Max yesterday if that helps.

    • @prattoychanda3322
      @prattoychanda3322 3 года назад +3

      I never thought Luke could suck it up to torture a MacBook like that. 🥲

    • @VegasGuy1975
      @VegasGuy1975 3 года назад +14

      Frankly, I thought I would be upgrading immediately, but the truth is that my current M1 13” MBP does everything I need to do, and I’m the bottleneck in my workflow. So I can’t justify upgrading at this point.

    • @bradenboyce2520
      @bradenboyce2520 3 года назад +4

      I’m blown away the M1 still can keep up with these 2 newer chips that’s just crazy awesome 🤯🤯🤯😎🤙🏻🍎💻🖥

    • @tsakuyo
      @tsakuyo 3 года назад +8

      Hey Luke, could you do a comparison of the two screen sizes (14 and 16") in regard to the older 15" screens?
      I would like to upgrade from a 2014 15" MacBook Pro, and I'm not sure whether the 14" with the new screen would be sufficient, or if I should go for the 16".

  • @agusorellana5551
    @agusorellana5551 3 года назад +154

    The fan comparison was absolute fun, the 14” sounded like a calm rainy day and the intel 16” like a massive waterfall down on my roof.

    • @jimi272
      @jimi272 3 года назад +15

      Yeah hahah, like in the old days (until this summer in my case hahah) when the 15“ MacBook Pro retina from 2012-2015 used to turn into jet engines😂

    • @heymavericklim
      @heymavericklim 3 года назад +3

      @@jimi272 I’m listening to my afterburners now! 😛

  • @user-qk6zw5su5z
    @user-qk6zw5su5z 3 года назад +26

    This is the video I’ve been waiting for!! Thank you so much Luke-!!

  • @valentinmoeller
    @valentinmoeller 3 года назад +178

    I wonder: If you use Macs Fan Control to max out the fans - will the device be faster? It works (the program), I can confirm that from my 16“ but that would be an interesting test.

    • @jimi272
      @jimi272 3 года назад

      Nutzt du smc fan controll, oder welches Programm?

    • @alexfvcruz
      @alexfvcruz 3 года назад +2

      it will but fan noise is concerning, I be thinking the machine is throttling even though it might not be throttling hahaha

    • @lukemiani
      @lukemiani  3 года назад +66

      I doubt it- historically changing the fan speeds hasn't had an effect because Apple prioritized max performance over temperatures. In this case, because there is so much thermal headroom I suspect the fans would lead to lower temperatures, but have no effect on performance

    • @PaceyPimp
      @PaceyPimp 3 года назад +2

      @@lukemiani Unless you overclock if that were possible

    • @alyx6427
      @alyx6427 3 года назад +1

      it works for my base 13” m1 in gaming, i usually manually set them so the CPU stays below about 70-80°

  • @SunsetNova
    @SunsetNova 3 года назад +35

    I can't praise Luke Miani enough your coverage of the new MacBook Pro has been so thorough and detailed but at the same time you convey the information in an easy to follow style that is easy to understand which makes it so easy to make an informed buying decision. You guys ROCK nothing but love from the UK ♥️

    • @maxroman2010
      @maxroman2010 3 года назад +2

      Also, a lot of fictitious hype. 🤷‍♂️ like this video. Coz no matter if performance may be slightly different, the deciding factor is actually the size and portability. Any possible small difference in performance is negligible. Both are fast and amazing. No need to watch the video to know that.

    • @thebuddercweeper
      @thebuddercweeper 3 года назад +2

      @@maxroman2010 if, hypothetically, the 14” thermal throttled under the lightest of loads but the 16” didn’t at all, I think that could be the deciding factor for a lot of people. Fortunately that’s not the case, but there’s no harm in putting it to the test.

  • @hammershot1979
    @hammershot1979 3 года назад +16

    This video is what I’ve been waiting for and provides me with added comfort in my decision of going with the 14” form factor. Thank you.

  • @ChaseTheSummit
    @ChaseTheSummit 3 года назад +75

    I’d love to see you compare the 14” M1 Pro vs 14” M1 Max battery life in the same kind of tests! No one else has done this!

    • @KarimMaassen
      @KarimMaassen 3 года назад +9

      This. Been looking for exactly this. 14” battery comparison between Pro and Max.

    • @christophermkim
      @christophermkim 3 года назад +1

      Agree, this would really interesting to see

    • @heartofmyangel
      @heartofmyangel 3 года назад +1

      Comparison to the 16” Pro and Max would be great as well!

    •  2 года назад +2

      For any of you wondering, I have the 14 Inch, M1 Max (w 32 gpu cores) and 32gb ram. I'm getting on average between 3-5 hours of battery life. I'm thinking I might have a faulty unit, but if it's not the battery is everything but great.

    • @jjellen5804
      @jjellen5804 2 года назад +2

      @ what are you using it for? that sounds awful

  • @cst3674
    @cst3674 3 года назад +58

    Switching from a 16" to a 14" MacBook is life-changing lol it feels good to be able to toss around a laptop and sit comfortably on my lap again after 4 years lol it's so portable and the 14" is just the perfect size!!!

    • @rafadydkiemmacha7543
      @rafadydkiemmacha7543 3 года назад +1

      I have never owned a 16" laptop, I'm on 13". How bad is holding 16" on your lap?

    • @animerecortadox
      @animerecortadox 3 года назад +1

      @@rafadydkiemmacha7543 Not that bad, but the 14" it' much better, better than hold a 13" too.

    • @RiftValleyAquatics
      @RiftValleyAquatics 2 года назад

      FACTS

    • @MrSassle
      @MrSassle 2 года назад

      How’s the fan noise been and what model do you have?

    • @mohamedrazin9900
      @mohamedrazin9900 Год назад

      MacBook Pro 14’ 32GB or 16’ 16GB RAM ?
      Which one to go for ?

  • @luibilal
    @luibilal 3 года назад +63

    Hey Luke,
    the blanket part is purely genuinely genius.
    I have a question, though. Did you try to put the two macbooks on your lap and feel how much heat they produce ?

    • @asdf51501
      @asdf51501 3 года назад +10

      Well, we know the answer for the Intel MBP: All the heat. So much that you probably won't be able to have children. But definitely a good question.

    • @lukemiani
      @lukemiani  3 года назад +26

      I've been so busy with tests I haven't had much time to genuinely use the new MacBooks! However, anecdotally the heat seems to be pretty similar

    • @chucky29949
      @chucky29949 3 года назад +7

      50-60C surely must feel cooler than the 80-90C of the intels

  • @karthikadapa5011
    @karthikadapa5011 3 года назад +1

    What do you prefer for 32 gb ram btw M1 pro 10 CPU 16 GPU vs M1 max 10 CPU 24 GPU for $200 difference. Is there any battery life or performance differences between these models?

  • @sambass8121
    @sambass8121 3 года назад +9

    Would love a direct comparison of the 8 core and 10 core versions of the 14 inch! Thanks for all your work on these, eased a bunch of my concerns about this purchase already!

  • @zhongxinsamuel
    @zhongxinsamuel 3 года назад +68

    Very comprehensive comparison! Imo most ppl who are looking at the 14" prolly rank portability q highly so the 16" jump might be too much. I was curious if the lower spec/binned 8 core 14" MBP has different battery life and charging speeds (67W vs 94W) compared to the other 14" models since its got less cores perhaps it consumes less power, lasts longer and runs cooler? I think it's a consideration cuz ppl considering the 14" MBP need the portability and battery life is a big part of that, would really appreciate such a comparison!!

    • @gulsten
      @gulsten 3 года назад +1

      I picked up the 16" base model with 1TB today... for me the 14" was a tiny bit too small IMO.. but afterall both a great devices!
      The screens on both devices are freaking great and the keyboard feels almost like my old 2013 MBP.
      I think that the "poor" battery life on the 14" one is no problem for most of the people.. most of the time the laptop is already plugged in.

    • @USN1985dos
      @USN1985dos 3 года назад +1

      Yep, that's why I went with the 14" over the 16". It's my primary "mobile" computer that doesn't spend most of it's time on my desk at the office or home. So it being fairly light and compact, and easily used in my lap or at a coffee shop/airplane makes it more useful in my opinion.

    • @MrDucatiV4
      @MrDucatiV4 3 года назад +2

      The 14" base model 8 CPU/14 GPU will last 5-10% longer than the 14" with 10 CPU/16 GPU version. The 14" Base model battery life will be on par with the 16" base model. I owned both for 3 three weeks. I ended up returning both to get the 14" 10 CPU/16 GPU model.

    • @harrison00xXx
      @harrison00xXx 2 года назад +1

      As soon you try both in stores... you will realize: Ofc the 16" is "just" 0,5kg heavier, but in fact, the 16 AND 14" models fit easily into average and even small notebook cases/backpacks!
      In my opinion the 14" even feels thick, meanwhile the 16" with its "huge" screen (its just ok, i would have wished 17"...) is fine with its thickness.
      And only considering it weights just 20% more (for 42% bigger battery, much more silent, bigger fans and better thermals in overall!)... the 16" model has is own awesome advantages.
      I just tried a 14" convertible as my "on the go" notebook... its awesome... just 1,1kg or so.... especially with the touchscreen in tablet mode its really enjoyable, but in notebook mode, the 14" gets annoying, especially if you have more than 2 windows side by side open (or you just scale it down so you have to use a microscope)
      With the 16".... the bigger screen makes it so much more usable, totally worth the bigger footprint and especially the "just" 0,5kg more!

    • @itsadambright
      @itsadambright 2 года назад

      @@MrDucatiV4 you mean you ended up with the base model ? since it has better battery?

  • @meowmochimeow
    @meowmochimeow 3 года назад +92

    Apple has absolutely blown me away. This video alone demonstrates how sticking with Intel was setting us back for years.

    • @asdf51501
      @asdf51501 3 года назад +19

      Intel's stagnation was almost criminal, but with Apple's awesome M series and a resurgent AMD, they're definitely paying for it.

    • @sk8isgr8-888
      @sk8isgr8-888 Год назад

      Apple has left IBM and now Intel.

    • @pabloespinoza9046
      @pabloespinoza9046 Год назад

      years before this technology just wan't available

    • @KevinMillard68
      @KevinMillard68 Год назад

      the biggest advantge intel chips gave us was runing windows for real and gettting access to tons of games we lost all that in apple silicone but we did gain so much more in return.

  • @pauljohnston568
    @pauljohnston568 3 года назад +24

    Exactly the tests I’ve wanted to see someone do - Great job and thanks Luke! Now I need to see if I want to change my 14” order…

    • @triple965
      @triple965 3 года назад

      Did you change it? I’m in the same boat. Ordered top spec 14”

    • @pauljohnston568
      @pauljohnston568 3 года назад

      @@triple965 still not sure! Visited the apple store today, the 16” really does feel big in a way my prior 13’s and 15’s haven’t. If I can get 120hz 4K on my external OLED, then I’ll almost definitely stay 14”

    • @triple965
      @triple965 3 года назад

      @@pauljohnston568 thanks for getting back to me. Yes, I felt the 16 inch too. It was heavy chunky. I like the portability and spec on the 14 - I’ll probably stick to it!

    • @lorenzoescalante4796
      @lorenzoescalante4796 3 года назад +2

      gahhh - can't decide between the 14 or the 16 D: - I like the 14 for the portability.

  • @Joel-ew1zm
    @Joel-ew1zm 3 года назад +22

    The Mac is Back baby. This is as exciting a time in Macdom as the mid 2000s during the PowerPC > Intel transition. A rebirth of the Mac. I love how apple is unafraid to abandon a platform when it is starting to hold their product line back, and also admit when they are wrong with design choices and give pro users what they ask for like how they did with the 2019 Mac Pro and now these bad boys.

    • @jameo3606
      @jameo3606 3 года назад +1

      I agree this is a very exiting time, I was a little sad not to see standard USB Type A ports like they kept on the mac mini, but I'll definitely take a HDMI and SD slot back!

  • @Film_Fog
    @Film_Fog 3 года назад +19

    I would like to see a fan noise comparison between the 14” M1 and the intel 16” while in clamshell mode. I ask because i use my intel 16” macbook in clamshell configuration with it connected to two monitors at my desk. It runs like a hairdryer under load. I desire replacing it with a 14” for lighter travelling, but fear the increase in fan noise of a smaller chassis when compared to my 16” intel model. Is it possible that Apple’s new 14” is quieter than the intel 16’” model under load, or am i getting caught up in the hype? P.S. Good work on the video. Nicely done, and thanks for the time lapse and cutting straight to the figures. I appreciate it.

    • @CVFunStuff
      @CVFunStuff 3 года назад +1

      Not getting caught up. It’s definitely far quieter, the fan layout has been redone too to be quieter. It’s a substantial difference

    • @animerecortadox
      @animerecortadox 3 года назад +2

      The 14" will not even feels the monitors.

  • @ProphetOfTruth_
    @ProphetOfTruth_ 3 года назад +64

    This video is really interesting after watching Max Tech do almost identical comparisons. Their 14 inch consistently was hitting over 100 degrees under heavy load with very audible fans and their 16 inch never really got hotter than 90 degrees with fans rarely audible. Equal performance in the benchmarks but 14 was always much hotter and louder than the 16

    • @ProphetOfTruth_
      @ProphetOfTruth_ 3 года назад +12

      @Joseph Richter no they weren’t. M1 pro in both computers in both videos

    • @BlueHawk80
      @BlueHawk80 3 года назад +8

      @@ProphetOfTruth_ I wonder too what happened. They used different tools as far as I noticed. I hope Luke's result are the accurate ones. 90°C and above is a big NOGO for me.

    • @sshubam
      @sshubam 3 года назад +17

      Yes they used TG Pro and Jerry Schulze just pinned a comment in his comparison video too that TG Pro is reporting 10 degrees higher than other software. So its a Software bug, Temperatures are actually really low like Luke tested.

    • @sshubam
      @sshubam 3 года назад

      @Joseph Richter No, they are exactly the same specifications.

    • @BlueHawk80
      @BlueHawk80 3 года назад

      @@sshubam phew :))

  • @leoenin
    @leoenin 3 года назад +1

    Just canceled my order for 14". Thank you for the feedback about the fan noise, I can't work with something like that.

  • @RzeskiGrzeski
    @RzeskiGrzeski 3 года назад +12

    Thanks for another video on the M1 Pro/Max.
    It would be awesome to see battery life comparison between M1 Pro 16'' and M1 Max 16''.
    The Verge states that there is big hit on battery with Max and that Apple confirms that.

    • @ZhuJo99
      @ZhuJo99 3 года назад

      Not if you are not taxing GPU that much. On the other hand, powerful GPU is the reason why people go with Max. For my needs (web development) it’s waste of money and energy. Everybody has to decide whether his/her workflow requires even full Pro and not just binned one with 8 cores total.

    • @RzeskiGrzeski
      @RzeskiGrzeski 3 года назад

      @@ZhuJo99 Actually according to Apple it is the other way around. The Verge: "I asked Apple, and the company confirmed the M1 Max uses more power both when idle and when active, but it noted that the M1 Max might potentially be more efficient if you run specific multi-core GPU workloads all day."

  • @steveb1972
    @steveb1972 3 года назад

    Luke you talking about how the inches make a difference and now your next video is a three-way! Hope you don’t get de-monetised! Seriously though, thank you so much Sir for all your hard work (and $’s!) for bringing us this very useful info to us. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @neocs193p
    @neocs193p 3 года назад +3

    Nice review and very useful testing. I would like to see a comparison between the base 14" and the un-binned M1-pro 14" in terms of performance and (most importantly) battery life, both in stress conditions, which you already cover very well, but also in lighter common use (even pros need to browse the web and watch youtube). If the base 14" gets 1-2 hours of extra battery life, I think this would be more valuable to me than the extra performance I would rarely need. Keep up the great work, you got yourself a new sub.

  • @RiteshKudalkar
    @RiteshKudalkar 3 года назад +1

    I'd really love to see the battery charging test. Not a single youtuber has done it as of yet. Love your videos!

  • @MusicMoleOfficial
    @MusicMoleOfficial 3 года назад +15

    im really interested in the 32gb vs 16gb now that its unified memory, great video and coverage on these machines!

    • @lorenzomartin6217
      @lorenzomartin6217 2 года назад +4

      I got 16GB and was worried at first. Thought I'd throw everything at it and if it wasn't enough just exchange but bro... It handles everything, Photoshop/Lightroom, 6k editing in Davinci, Final Cut, etc. Everything's smooth.

    • @tanmengazmil
      @tanmengazmil Год назад

      @@lorenzomartin6217 man i needed this comment

  • @realcubemonster
    @realcubemonster 3 года назад

    Your Videos about the new MacBooks are outstanding in the whole RUclips Community! It‘s obvious how much Love you put in them, and it really helps me impatiently waiting for my 14“ to arrive. :)

  • @acqua_exp6420
    @acqua_exp6420 3 года назад +2

    Gotta say Luke, I love your channel for the precision and thought you put into these test runs. Very well executed and very helpful. Thank you my dude!

  • @hunterbladen2806
    @hunterbladen2806 2 года назад +1

    This is the best fan test I've seen for these guys. Thank you for giving me exactly what I was looking for.

  • @SaiyanJin85
    @SaiyanJin85 3 года назад +12

    The same review from the Maxtech channel the results were much different. Both had the same performance but the 14' was constantly above 95C and the fan went crazy whilst the 16' was dead silent and temperature around 85C. Also the battery of 14' was at 3% and for the 16' was at 36% after the tests

    • @NicolaMastrandrea
      @NicolaMastrandrea 3 года назад

      Maxtech results are actually an outlier. I have seen a lot of these videos and their results are frankly odd. Luke's using a different program to check temperatures and his results are consistent with what I've seen elsewhere.

    • @BlueHawk80
      @BlueHawk80 3 года назад +2

      Yep, I dont get those massive differences either. Who is right!?

    • @SaiyanJin85
      @SaiyanJin85 3 года назад +2

      That's not very helpful for us. It defeats the purpose of these reviews....

    • @SaiyanJin85
      @SaiyanJin85 3 года назад

      @@NicolaMastrandrea The fans spinning up like that for the 14" is not because of the programs used though. That's interesting

    • @cbm80amiga
      @cbm80amiga 3 года назад +2

      Exactly - MaxTech used different tools and they claim their tools give correct results. But I don't believe that MBP can reach 105C and the case is not that hot like in case of Intel based Macs

  • @eafortson
    @eafortson 3 года назад

    Btw Jerry Schulze has done the fan test between the 14in and 16in M1 Max. Results were the same. Performance kept up but fan noise increased on the 14in.

  • @magneticpitch
    @magneticpitch 3 года назад +9

    i'm most interested in seeing a comparison of two 16" models, one with the Pro 10/16 and the other with the binned Max 10/24 (both with 32gb ram, and 2tb ssd)

  • @Geotubest
    @Geotubest 3 года назад +1

    Another great presentation. You're quickly becoming my favourite reviewer. Love your presentation style. I'm sure you'll hit a million and more subscribers in the not too distant future. Keep up the great work! Cheers.

  • @paraleschmusic
    @paraleschmusic 3 года назад +13

    I love my MacBook Air M1. No fans and the performance is more than enough for me. 4K video editing and musicproduction is no problem at all. Thanks Apple for the best Computer ive ever had!
    Edit: After i bought the M1 MacBook Air. I wasent even once on my 2.000$ Windows PC. Its a dustcatcher now:-)

    • @kenduejones
      @kenduejones 3 года назад +3

      Definitely,same here

    • @BilisNegra
      @BilisNegra 3 года назад +1

      Yeah, there's the hype for these undeniably desirable new MacBooks, but frankly, the M1 stuff is so good for the needs of so many users, with astounding value for an Apple product.

    • @Justmakesomenoiz
      @Justmakesomenoiz 2 года назад +1

      An awsome computer the air to bad it dosent have a better screen and 120hz also. Then I would be all over it. Thinking on getting the 16 inch mb pro 16gb/1tb or if I shall wait on the new air which is coming this year hopefully.
      But don't really see the problem with carrying a 16 inch which is like and 15 inch either. So will probably get the mb pro soon.

  • @musicbymason
    @musicbymason 3 года назад +1

    Is it worth it to get the M1 Max? I definitely want the 16” over the 14” but is it worth the $400 dollars for the 32-core? I want to produce music, do some light gaming and learn how to video edit.

  • @bradenboyce2520
    @bradenboyce2520 3 года назад +13

    “Poops & giggles” I’m dead 😂😂😂 another awesome video I’ve never watched sooo many videos about Mac or MacBooks then I have since I started watching your videos keep them coming very well done 😎🤙🏻🍎💻🖥

  • @LittleMountainLife
    @LittleMountainLife 3 года назад

    Super awesome comparison video Luke! So happy with my 14” MBP Max

  • @GoldenJar
    @GoldenJar 3 года назад +3

    Another thing to note is that AppleCare+ is US$120 more expensive for the 16" than for the 14" (three years of coverage). So if you plan on getting either of them with the AppleCare+, the price difference would be US$320.

  • @NormanBaatz
    @NormanBaatz 3 года назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @rvenden
    @rvenden 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for this very informative video. Great work! To me, the most surprising thing was just how well the older M1 Mac in your test compared. It seems like Apple's original M1 machines remain very competitive, especially considering the cost differences. Thanks again.

  • @Davesmusic86
    @Davesmusic86 3 года назад

    Been waiting for this. Great comparison!!!

  • @kumoitojp
    @kumoitojp 3 года назад +3

    Luke, Thanks for the videos! I'd like to see more Pro vs Max comparisons. Rendering isn't that important to me. I need to see more FCPX and Premier Timeline work with multiple videos, effects and transitions. The Verge comparison showed a little bit but they were vague with details. Blender workflow (not rendering) would be nice to see too, but I guess we need someone who knows how to use Blender to do that.

  • @duchenedesignsolutions7036
    @duchenedesignsolutions7036 3 года назад

    You are the mad scientist of testing these. Really fun to watch!

  • @KarimMaassen
    @KarimMaassen 3 года назад +6

    I’d like to know if the Max is draining the battery more than thr Pro. And if so, by how much?

  • @PaulGrantDesigns
    @PaulGrantDesigns 2 года назад +1

    I use a 2019 MBP 16 as my work machine and have kept my 2015 MBP 15 as my spare. I do UX/UI design, which involves a lot of vector-based graphics and light image editing. Honestly, most users will not outpace the 2015 MBP, so many novices, as well as pros, can get away with buying a quality second-hand MBP and enjoy great performance.
    Geekbench scores can look mighty impressive, but much of the time all that power goes untapped.
    If I was into video editing, I'd 100% have the latest and greatest MBP.

  • @jimtipton8888
    @jimtipton8888 3 года назад +3

    Always enjoy your content Luke! Max Tech just put out a similar video and a couple things stood out. The fans, heat exchange and speakers are much larger on the 16" and in their tests the 14" ran hotter with higher fan speeds and the battery on the 16" performed substantially better.

    • @ProphetOfTruth_
      @ProphetOfTruth_ 3 года назад +2

      Just commented something similar, I’m very curious how almost 2 exact videos could yield results this different

    • @jimtipton8888
      @jimtipton8888 3 года назад

      @@ProphetOfTruth_ Either it was the test differences or a copy of the 14" difference. Can't imagine any environmental differences would have made that significant a difference in results. Interestingly this video was 14" biased since Luke said that was what he was buying and the Max Tech video was 16" biased since that was the reviewers personal choice. Not saying that influenced either review, just an observation.

    • @ProphetOfTruth_
      @ProphetOfTruth_ 3 года назад +1

      @@jimtipton8888 I don’t the tests were very different my best guess is incorrect sensors for Luke or setting a maximum temperature or something like that. I didn’t directly compare test results but if Max Tech had consistently higher results than maybe Luke unintentionally had some cap in place he was unaware of

    • @BlueHawk80
      @BlueHawk80 3 года назад +1

      @@ProphetOfTruth_ Why should only Luke be at fault? Could be Max likewise. The benchmarks results weren't capped at least.

    • @ProphetOfTruth_
      @ProphetOfTruth_ 3 года назад

      @@BlueHawk80 because I’ve never seen the sensors he’s used before but Max Tech has done their temp tests many times

  • @mikeinva8
    @mikeinva8 3 года назад

    Excellent video great comparisons and a lot of really good information. I was blown away by the blank test.

  • @gsparkman
    @gsparkman 3 года назад +41

    I value display size with my type of work (and eyes), so 14” was never in the equation. Definitely worth an extra $200 to me.

    • @hollywoodthedj1673
      @hollywoodthedj1673 Год назад +1

      I’m definitely thinking the same thing my eyes be killing me sometimes on my 13” 2012 now so I’m definitely thinking of getting the 16”

  • @MrDucatiV4
    @MrDucatiV4 3 года назад

    Returned my M1 pro 16" MacBook yesterday due to the large size and it is uncomfortable for traveling and public cafe/library! I ended up getting the MacBook Pro 14" with 10 core CPU/16 core GPU. With the $200 I saved going from 16" to 14", I ended up buying the 3 yrs $279 AppleCare+ warranty for the laptop. I bring along my 20,000mah Anker portable battery and it charges the 14' MacBook from 0-100% easy. Battery life is no longer an issue and I highly recommend the 14" MacBook pro M1! I do Coding, photo editing, Data entry, and website development work.

  • @eim6741
    @eim6741 3 года назад +21

    Honestly, just being able to sit on my bed and watch a a Twitch stream and not melt my legs is reason enough to upgrade

    • @graciashermano725
      @graciashermano725 3 года назад

      Which one did you go for

    • @eim6741
      @eim6741 3 года назад

      @@graciashermano725 Haven't decided yet but probably going to go with the 14 inch 10 core, I have the 2019 15 inch now, but can't justify the price of the 16 LOL

    • @SpymarkStudio
      @SpymarkStudio 3 года назад +1

      Just get an ipad for that

    • @graciashermano725
      @graciashermano725 3 года назад

      @@eim6741 what specs

  • @levi.s722
    @levi.s722 3 года назад +1

    Best video so far of any 14 and 16 comparison videos. 'd like to see a battery test from 100% to 0% for both these machines. Real world testing. Exporting, Editing, Netflix, Web Browsing, ...

  • @rhoderzau
    @rhoderzau 3 года назад +3

    The MaxTech comparison showed the CPU getting to 106C in the 14” vs 80’s - low 90’s in the 16”. Were looking at different temp sensors?

    • @hany.girgis
      @hany.girgis 3 года назад

      Thanks for noting that out. The complete contradiction between the two videos made me doubt both - I’m not sure who to believe.

    • @t185bear
      @t185bear 3 года назад +1

      I was reading some comments elsewhere, and apparently TG Pro was just updated this week to measure the new chips properly. The previous version apparently showed lower temps, incorrectly.

    • @thebuddercweeper
      @thebuddercweeper 3 года назад

      @@t185bear It seems odd to me for a >100° temperature to be the correct one since most chips will throttle before they surpass 100°

    • @t185bear
      @t185bear 3 года назад

      @@thebuddercweeper I agree that it seems odd. My understanding (i.e., TIL...) is that there's an issue when temps get past 105º in most laptops. However, I think it's safe to assume that Apple has done a lot of tests to destruction, so they won't let the SOC's get too hot. "Too hot" meaning "damaging the computer.

    • @thebuddercweeper
      @thebuddercweeper 3 года назад

      @@t185bear yeah, I mean, *if* apple did that I’m sure it would be in the safest way possible, but to me personally it would make more sense for those to be the incorrect ones.
      Although, who knows, maybe everyone’s wrong and it’s somewhere in between the 60° and the 106°

  • @gkimmes
    @gkimmes 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the comparison. You’re the best!

  • @asdf51501
    @asdf51501 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for doing these comparisons! I have a high spec Intel i9 MBP and the fan noise on that under load is... awful. With these, it looks like I could not only have a great portable laptop, but also one that can be docked on my desk in my office and do things without my having to worry about thermals and fan noise. It's also nice to hear that when the 14" fans do come on, they're not all that loud as compared to the Intel. Now I'm looking forward to the M1 Max comparison :D

  • @joshuahowitt9943
    @joshuahowitt9943 5 месяцев назад

    Thanks! Still relevant today! I'm looking at refurbished 2021 14" on Amazon, and 2nd hand on Swappa. These are now in the $900 to $1400 range for 1TB for either size.

  • @brunoroseau3383
    @brunoroseau3383 3 года назад +3

    MaxTech just released the same comparison in which the 14" went up to 106°C ! How come there is such a big difference between their thermal results and the ones in this video ?

    • @ProphetOfTruth_
      @ProphetOfTruth_ 3 года назад +1

      Just commented something similar, I’m very curious how almost 2 exact videos could yield results this different

    • @sindhusekar1
      @sindhusekar1 3 года назад

      Perhaps due to different size of files used to run the tests.

    • @brunoroseau3383
      @brunoroseau3383 3 года назад

      @@sindhusekar1 still, we’re talking about a 40°C difference ! My guess is the software used doesn’t calculate temperature the same way, which seems baffling to me but that’s the best I’be got

    • @ProphetOfTruth_
      @ProphetOfTruth_ 3 года назад

      So Max Tech posted this in a comment on their vid
      “we are using TG fan pro which was updated just before we shot the video and it's the first app to properly read the temps. All other apps we
      tested as well as TG fan Pro prior to this update where barely pulling any sensors and the hottest sensors were from power modules and not CPU cores and those only shows up to like 50-60C. We also test with thermal cams and these laptops heat ip the chassis to 45C just like Intel macs which show CPU temps of up to 100C like M1 macs so there's no way these 10c M1 Pro chips that use 30W and heat chassis to 45C only hit 55-60C in the CPU.”

    • @brunoroseau3383
      @brunoroseau3383 3 года назад

      @@ProphetOfTruth_ Thanks ! So Luke’s readings are completely wrong…

  • @rejiepark
    @rejiepark 3 года назад +1

    Love this series very informative

  • @lukespivey6236
    @lukespivey6236 3 года назад +6

    Its amazing how little the fans are used in these machines compared to their intel predecessors
    Also: Notice how the 16" was named "MacBook's MacBook Pro" during the thermal test

  • @trackvegeta8716
    @trackvegeta8716 3 года назад +1

    Fan noise comparison will be interesting when they are connected to an external display. Previous 16 was really bad with fan noise with an external 4K monitor

  • @Zelig2Cents
    @Zelig2Cents 3 года назад +6

    First of all, thank you so much Luke! Your tests are very, very helpful to us'ns in picking out the right product for ourselves. From a performance standpoint, it sounds like Apple is able to keep the 14" performing just as well as the 16", but they do it by running the fan harder, the downside being it cranks through battery power faster and some fan noise. To me, the takeaway is: If the fan noise is modest and when you're working it hard it's plugged into power, the 16" has no advantage on performance. It's real advantages are screen size, battery life (if you used it on battery a ton) and a little better sound. It's downside is portability. To me, there's no comparison. When I'm mobile, portability matters WAY more than a modest screen size increase and a little better battery life. Frankly, if I really care about screen size, not only is 14" not big enough, neither is 16". if I'm in my office, I can fix the image size and sound quality issues with an external display and reasonably decent speakers. Alternately, I just get the M1 Max Mac Mini whenever that rolls out... and I probably will. I can see the 16" being an advantage for some, but it seems like that's a VERY specific customer where the laptop needs to be SOMEWHAT portable... but not TOO portable. Just my 2¢.

  • @danterobinson4611
    @danterobinson4611 3 года назад

    Everything I wanted to know thanks!

  • @macmcmillen6282
    @macmcmillen6282 3 года назад +4

    Great comparison/review Luke. I'm still happy with my ordering of the 16" MB Pro Max. I thought about the 14" but my aging eyes decided on its big brother. Can't really go too wrong with either form factor, however.

    • @larsjeppesen8109
      @larsjeppesen8109 2 года назад

      Why don't you use glasses for screen work, like the rest of us 45+ ?

    • @macmcmillen6282
      @macmcmillen6282 2 года назад +1

      @@larsjeppesen8109 I do. My eyesight is terrible after 20+ years of software development. I'm loving my 16" MB Pro M1 Max.

    • @larsjeppesen8109
      @larsjeppesen8109 2 года назад

      @@macmcmillen6282 Thanks. I was worried about the portability so finally ordered the smaller. I change postion all day: floor, bed, couch, desk..

    • @zoltanzana
      @zoltanzana Год назад

      @@larsjeppesen8109There’s more screen size. Simply more comfortable.

  • @jonathanchungath6531
    @jonathanchungath6531 3 года назад +1

    damn I enjoyed this episode nice work Luke

  • @davidplotkin5173
    @davidplotkin5173 3 года назад +4

    Terrific video ( as well as the Pro vs Max one - which helped me decide that my use case is not-Max). My big decision now is 14 vs 16. I've spec'd out both at 10 CPU / 16 GPU / 16 RAM and 1TB SSD and at Amazon there's a $150 difference to go to 16". Since totally portable isn't an issue, and I do not graphics-intensive work, I'm thinking the 16". Have I missed anything here? PS ---- any thoughts on 16 RAM vs 32 RAM? I do some amateur music composition as well as digital photo editing. Really amateur, never going pro. Want to keep machine 5-7 years. Thank you.

    • @ExplorerOfTheGalaxy
      @ExplorerOfTheGalaxy Год назад

      Go for 16".. bigger screen to visualize all Logic Pro tracks.. and room for Lightroom best experience.. PS: it can fit in any normal backpack.

  • @Daegdon
    @Daegdon 3 года назад

    Excellent review as always; great test standards and comparisons.

  • @turle8645
    @turle8645 3 года назад +8

    Me seeing the 14 inch: that’s pretty loud
    Me seeing the intel right after: oh never mind

  • @ChrisAwake
    @ChrisAwake 3 года назад

    Luke, such a great review/comparison! Thanks!

  • @frizsld6793
    @frizsld6793 3 года назад +3

    I'm glad I chose the 14 inch specd out and high performance mode seems like gimmick to me now lol 🤣

  • @adenosinetriphosphate6167
    @adenosinetriphosphate6167 3 года назад +1

    Can you please test the battery of the M1 Pro vs M1 Max on the 14 inch?

  • @snappycattimesten
    @snappycattimesten 3 года назад +4

    Max tech got 100C temps on the 14inch. Interesting.

    • @ssmithstone
      @ssmithstone 3 года назад +1

      And I've seen my own 14inch Pro get to >90c just the other day maxed out load doing some developer tasks, so saying a max cap of 60 is incorrect

    • @sharky2126
      @sharky2126 3 года назад

      Room temps factor into this also. Would be curious what the room temps were for basically all of the YT guys testing out these laptops.

  • @trippyparrot9281
    @trippyparrot9281 3 года назад +1

    the speaker difference between the 16 & 14 inch is massive when you have a feel for it...
    if i were using my laptop as my main speakers that would deffinetly be a dealbreaker for me.
    but the only thing i do with my laptop unplugged is watch Netflix so still considering the 14" base model.
    Im just waiting until my local electronics store gets those so i can have a look at the displays

  • @mrzouz
    @mrzouz 3 года назад +4

    I really liked this video, it's not only focusing on performance but on what laptops are, battery and thermals are important part of laptop experience, and now people can make informed decision.
    get 14" to save 200$, fine with less battery, and ok with a bit of fan noise as long as performance is there.
    get 16", spend extra 200$, get almost silent computer, better battery (maybe significantly better) with same performance but slightly better speakers :)

    • @timothylinn
      @timothylinn 3 года назад

      You forgot: get 14" to save space and weight if you regularly travel by air. If not for that, the 16" is the easy choice.

  • @fitch8363
    @fitch8363 3 года назад +1

    Thanks! Between you and MaxTec the testing is both comprehensive and thorough. I watch you both. The most important takeaway so far is I don't need the M1 Max for what I do. With 32GB of RAM, that makes only a $200.00 difference, but it also means I can spend that $200 upgrading from a 14" to a 16". Monitor real estate is important to me.

  • @RippanCSGO
    @RippanCSGO 3 года назад +8

    Apple moving away from Intel has taken them at least 5 years forward. The macbooks of 2019 is a joke.
    Started with the M1 Air last year and getting my 16" M1 Pro in a few days, can't wait!

    • @ActionReaction..
      @ActionReaction.. 3 года назад

      wouldn't call the 2019s a joke , it'll take atleast months if not years till the m chips run all of the programs etc that the intel chips can

  • @elchavinha14
    @elchavinha14 3 года назад

    I love editing on my bed so that blanket test is insane, i can finally do that without getting hotttt

  • @darkbloom5796
    @darkbloom5796 3 года назад +5

    My gf says it doesn’t

    • @yessssss210
      @yessssss210 3 года назад

      Nice

    • @BB-tt4hm
      @BB-tt4hm 3 года назад +4

      My wife says it doesn’t, her boyfriend told me it does.

    • @eduarddobroiu
      @eduarddobroiu 3 года назад

      The grip matters more than the size. Try holding a 11" OG white-bezeled MacBook Air compared to this 16" Alluminum Box.

    • @eduarddobroiu
      @eduarddobroiu 3 года назад

      @@samilahhoahoe5125 I hope you realize my comment is not dirty intended.

    • @HarrisonBorbarrison
      @HarrisonBorbarrison 3 года назад

      First comment.

  • @asnijmegen
    @asnijmegen 3 года назад

    Luke you’re the best on RUclips. Love you man 👍🏻

  • @fanzify8416
    @fanzify8416 3 года назад +1

    0:08 good question🧐

  • @salttothesea
    @salttothesea 3 года назад

    Hi Luke, thank you so much for this great content. It’s making the wait for my new machine coming in December much harder though!! 😍

  • @sean_reyes
    @sean_reyes 3 года назад

    do you already have a video on how you back-up your Photos/Videos?
    Say your phone storage is full and iCloud storage is full also, and your mac is ALMOST full also, where would you put your Photos/Videos? and how would you do it that the Photos and Videos doesn't lose the metadata?

  • @priyapianosongs7390
    @priyapianosongs7390 3 года назад

    Awesome comparison Luke, I really wanted to know the thermal difference between the 14” and 16”. I am planning to get the 14” M1 Max, do you think the scenario will be different if we compare the 14” and 16” with M1 Max configuration?

  • @chuckmontecillo9620
    @chuckmontecillo9620 3 года назад

    Great job on your tests!

  • @SwissRuediger
    @SwissRuediger 3 года назад

    Brilliant comparison. Thanks!

  • @crearg8259
    @crearg8259 Год назад

    I like the blanket test! That’s exactly what I do on my bed😂😂😂 Though that requires fan cleaning a lot more frequently 😂

  • @awsomepossum210
    @awsomepossum210 3 года назад

    Must say I love the blanket test. That's something you don't see very often on YT. Great comparison. I was juggling between these two models but this video helped. Thanks.

  • @ian_ong
    @ian_ong 3 года назад

    Thank you Luke. Always refreshing to see your reviews. Learn a great deal from you. Keep up the good work!

  • @RayGill82
    @RayGill82 3 года назад

    This is the exact comparison I needed. These are the two configurations I am deciding between. This video definitely helped!

  • @daniellejudd3359
    @daniellejudd3359 3 года назад

    On my specced up 2018 13”, the noise….. not upgrading this minute, but damn, these sound terrific. In time I’ll upgrade to a 14”.

  • @jimmystewartuk
    @jimmystewartuk 3 года назад +1

    Thanks so much for making this comparison Luke! It has pretty much set my decision now for getting the 14 inch model. The battery life wasn’t a deciding factor for me so seeing that the performance held up really reassured me that getting the smaller screen upgrade for travel conveniences is a great choice. When in the office it would be plugged in anyways and i don’t normally record audio when my computer is running hot so I don’t think I would ever run into audio issues either. So yeah, its totally amazing that the smaller form factor held up to its promise this time round and I look forward to receiving mine

  • @MickInOz82
    @MickInOz82 3 года назад +1

    the battery life in the 16 inch is amazing, spent all day with plenty battery remaining (40%). 2017 15 Inch battery was terrible, I would get 2 hours before having to plug in. I initially ordered the 14 inch base on day 1 preorders began, but delivery wasn't expected until 24 November, I ended up cancelling it and went to a store (Apple Certified Seller) and got one over the counter with 10% discount special and picked up a 16 Inch for $300 more. Which was a good deal compared to base 14 inch. 14 Inch is great if you're travelling around and you need a bit more power than the Air or 13 Inch Pro. I can also say that I have never had any issue with the 2017 15 Inch MacBook Pro, Keyboard has been perfect, only had the battery replaced under warranty. These new MacBook Pros are nicer to hold with the softer edges when closed compared to previous ones that hard harder edges.

  • @srgzbltch2249
    @srgzbltch2249 3 года назад

    Hi Luke! Are the SSD's on the Macbooks replaceable/upgradable? How long do they last?

  • @jensche21
    @jensche21 3 года назад

    Max Tech and Ben Rowlands tried almost the same tests. They have both a huge Thermal/Fan Problem with the 14 inches. 14 Inch temperature goes up to 103°C.... and there are huge fan noises.

  • @gregmccarter3243
    @gregmccarter3243 3 года назад

    all your vids laying out all the info is really great.....im waiting for the new imac in spring tho.....

  • @zoltangacsi5331
    @zoltangacsi5331 3 года назад

    Thank you for put lot of effort in testing. Very thorough 👌

    • @zoltangacsi5331
      @zoltangacsi5331 3 года назад

      @plus①④①②⑨④⑦⑥⑥⑥⑨ hey, what does that mean? 😁

  • @Nickmt123
    @Nickmt123 3 года назад

    Hi Luke, Can you use these new Macbooks with the display closed on a external monitor, keyboard, mouse?

  • @houssemkochat6601
    @houssemkochat6601 3 года назад +2

    The temperature monitoring software you're using probably isn't showing the actual cpu cores temperature

  • @thesipheon
    @thesipheon 3 года назад +1

    awesome review

  • @kresnark
    @kresnark 3 года назад

    I already have macbook pro m1 13" , is it worth it to upgrade new macbook pro m1 14" ???

  • @MikaMoupondo
    @MikaMoupondo 3 года назад

    I own a mid 2012 retina macbook pro that has served me well for music production and light gaming, but my god that fan noise!! I had to replace the right fan once and re-paste after watching one of your vids. I have ordered the 16" m1 Max and I am about to be blown away by the difference for sure. I am happy to see I won't have to deal with that awful fan noise for a while. Great video!

  • @SuperPudley
    @SuperPudley 3 года назад +1

    I enjoyed this comparison, and I have been convinced already that I wanted the 16 inch version of the base configuration, but am even more satisfied with my decision after watching this video! Thanks for doing this one!

  • @joealexander2325
    @joealexander2325 3 года назад

    Thank you Luke, you validated my purchase of the 14” in your video. Keep up the great comparisons.

  • @pinkdiscomosh2766
    @pinkdiscomosh2766 3 года назад +1

    I really hate fan noise. So I’ll probably be getting the 16” for the better thermals and battery. Thanks Luke for the comparison.

  • @carlosgriffiths7944
    @carlosgriffiths7944 3 года назад

    nicely done Luke... nicely done!!! 14" MacBook Pro is the sensible choice but what's the best configurations?