Mike Florio on Kyle Shanahan & John Harbaugh Possibly Coaching Elsewhere in ’25 | Rich Eisen Show

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

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  • @alynch9846
    @alynch9846 14 часов назад +38

    Florio stirs up more drama than a Kardashian

  • @PlacentaFishcakes
    @PlacentaFishcakes 14 часов назад +16

    It's amazing how many people comment on these videos where it's 100% clear they haven't watched it, and are simply responding to the (clickbait) title

  • @Robert-oq8ye
    @Robert-oq8ye 14 часов назад +39

    Why on earth would either of those coaches be on the hot seat? It's wild that anyone thinks that

    • @ekoboyz757
      @ekoboyz757 13 часов назад +5

      Clearly you didn’t watch the video

    • @Robert-oq8ye
      @Robert-oq8ye 13 часов назад +2

      @ekoboyz757 what? I did watch it. I'm responding to the fact that anyone thinks the this a question worth asking.
      Neither coach has any reason to go anywhere else. That's just absurd

    • @sleyson1518
      @sleyson1518 13 часов назад +2

      At some point Kyle needs to win a Super Bowl otherwise what’s the point of him being there

    • @Robert-oq8ye
      @Robert-oq8ye 12 часов назад +2

      @@sleyson1518 you can't win a Super Bowl if you can't get there.
      Kyle gets them there more than most coaches could dream of.
      That kind of thinking keeps franchises in the basement.

    • @phila1448
      @phila1448 12 часов назад

      This is Florio at his best, no facts, no evidence, just shooting from the hip.

  • @Montgumerz
    @Montgumerz 14 часов назад +24

    Every niners fan should remember how our team was before harbarguh, and after. Getting rid of shananhan would be monumentally stupid

    • @Robert-oq8ye
      @Robert-oq8ye 13 часов назад

      @@Montgumerz especially considering that THIS HAPPENED LAST TIME and we still went back.

    • @danr543
      @danr543 11 часов назад +1

      Thank you!!

    • @MrRicklynch57
      @MrRicklynch57 11 часов назад +1

      It depends what you want. Do you want a team competing for a Super Bowl within the next 10 years or a team that will be respectable over the course of the next 10 years constantly stressing the cap with old players.

    • @TheSkinnyMechanic
      @TheSkinnyMechanic 3 часа назад

      There are a lot of good choices available. Maybe consider the reality that maybe Kyle doesn’t even want to be there anymore. He knows he will get a job somewhere else quickly and without an aging roster and mid qb

  • @joshuadesautels
    @joshuadesautels 14 часов назад +6

    1) Adam Schefter said there's no indication of any imminent separation between the 49ers and Kyle Shanahan (or John Lynch, either).
    2) Based on what we've seen, unless Kyle completely loves Caleb Williams's fit with Kyle's system, Kyle wouldn't be interested in coaching Caleb Williams.

  • @mazhar1980
    @mazhar1980 14 часов назад +11

    There are 32 NFL teams that have a person called the head coach in that job, but there are not, on Earth, 32 quality NFL head coaches. Both of these are 2 of maybe 14-18 in that category. This would be stupid as hell by either franchise. I think that's a quick no if some team like the Bears called either one about a coach trade.

    • @felixrcandelaria
      @felixrcandelaria 14 часов назад

      I'm not sure if Florios take is worse or this one...

    • @thebourg
      @thebourg 14 часов назад

      There are easily 32 qualified people to be head coaches. The question is whether you make the right choice

    • @milkcrate805
      @milkcrate805 11 часов назад

      Shanahan is proving that without a top tier defense, they can’t compete. The offense isn’t able to carry. The offensive numbers were always good but never able to carry the team when needed. Shanahan is a good offensive mind but a mediocre head

  • @SEEKUP4EVER
    @SEEKUP4EVER 14 часов назад +17

    Florio is the TMZ of the NFL. He’s a clown that just makes up BS.

  • @thebourg
    @thebourg 13 часов назад +3

    I actually thought it was a valid point he was making. It has no reflection on whether those guys would change teams but if you are the Bears you need to leave no stone unturned

  • @jeffreystebel
    @jeffreystebel 10 часов назад +3

    The 49ers nucleus of players feels like it’s imploding.

    • @paulmancini-sb9qn
      @paulmancini-sb9qn 10 часов назад

      They are aging, often injured and don’t have the quality Depth they used to have ..

  • @trydenfeld3015
    @trydenfeld3015 14 часов назад +17

    Florio should be on the hot seat

    • @nopeteys2424
      @nopeteys2424 14 часов назад +4

      Why? Because you disagree with him? He’s good at what he does

    • @trydenfeld3015
      @trydenfeld3015 14 часов назад +4

      @@nopeteys2424 he makes up rumors and sensationalizes. His sources close to him are the voices in his head.

    • @jeffholman8146
      @jeffholman8146 13 часов назад

      ​@@nopeteys2424😂 😂 he is so good that he fears pushback to the point of eliminating the comment section on pft. 😂😂

    • @jarlwhiterun7478
      @jarlwhiterun7478 8 часов назад

      ​@tryd enfeld3015 name things he has made up

  • @Icien1
    @Icien1 19 минут назад

    "What gives you the impression the 9ers want to get rid of Kyle."
    "Nothing specific."
    Thats A+ journalism.

  • @paulmancini-sb9qn
    @paulmancini-sb9qn 10 часов назад

    Jets, Giants, Jaguars, Bears, Raiders and Cowboys for sure - could see changes in Cincinnati & Cleveland as well ..

  • @PsychItsMike
    @PsychItsMike 5 часов назад

    Bears fans praying this is true!

  • @felixrcandelaria
    @felixrcandelaria 14 часов назад +2

    Meh...cold take

  • @octaviomarquez1361
    @octaviomarquez1361 9 часов назад

    Nah, Brian Flores looks like a sure candidate for this gig with the Bears, they already have an awesome Defense, you just need a QB whisperer take with you Josh McCown.

  • @Peppers19781978
    @Peppers19781978 9 часов назад

    Steve Smith on Sunday was the first in the media to FINALLY call out Shanahan and the Niners on how badly they handle injuries, how often guys are hurt under him and how the Niners put guys out there not 100%. I have said this for a few years especially when Shanahan put Purdy back into the 2022 NFC title game injured knowing he couldnt throw. He does give a damn about player health or saftey....but he did spend the entire 2022 training camp whining about his hat and how the NFL wouldnt let him wear it. Niners will never win a SB under him. I am shocked more in the media havent mentioned how often Niners players are hurt. Purdy wasnt even 100% heading into their game vs Buffalo. McCaffery was rushed back and Shanahan has played him while not at 100%. He is so desperate for wins he risks a players health and safety. 49ers have a SB caliber team every year under him but havent won a SB in 30 years. Big question now is, do they give Purdy the huge contract many expected him to get when the season started? He has been awful the past few games. They caved and paid their two WR (not what they asked for though) and one is on IR, the other has battled injuries.
    Harbaugh has THREE playoff wins since 2013. Twice had the best record with Lamar, a 2x MVP and managed 1 playoff win. This is a HC who brags about his preseason record yet since 2013 is 3-6 in the playoffs. His first 5 years...9-4 in the playoffs and won the SB. This season Baltimore has 2 MVP caliber players but the 32nd ranked pass defense and lead the NFL in penalties. They went from a team who could've had home field advantage again and if they keep things up, might be the 7th playoff team. Leading the NFL in penalties is 100% bad coaching. Name me another SB caliber team that bad on pass defense AND #1 in penalties.

  • @gmb858
    @gmb858 13 часов назад

    I wrote this comment in February 2024 prior to the NFL draft. Now, nearing the end of his rookie season, Caleb Williams performed as I expected:
    Here is the comment:
    Williams is not the 2nd coming. Let's start with the fact that Lincoln Riley is not the "quarterback whisperer." Riley had some interesting schemes when he went to Oklahoma that worked. But he never taught the fundamentals of mechanics and leadership to any of his "award winning quarterbacks."
    I'll reveal I am an Oklahoma alum, but set that aside. Baker Mayfield was "fully formed" when Riley arrived. Riley didn't take him under his wing. Kyler Murray was in the same quarterback room as Mayfield and benefited from film study and schematics but he was an original talent on his own. And Jalen Hurts? His time at Alabama gave him the fundamentals to lead an offense. All he needed to do was improve his passing skills.
    We couldn't tell much about Williams in his freshman year because Riley was off interviewing with Southern Cal. We thought he was good, had good potential and we were looking at bright days ahead until Riley snuck out of town before the break of dawn.
    I watched every Southern Cal game that was available both years Williams was at So Cal. I didn't see any development in discipline in utilizing the pocket or in developing complex timing routes. What I saw was a quarterback that either didn't see his "reads," didn't like them, or wasn't confident to deliver the ball in tight windows.
    I saw a quarterback that was quick to pull the ball down and begin to scramble pell-mell without any rhyme or reason. The passing play suddenly became street ball where he was waving receivers open down the field or he was tucking and running instead of forcing the defense to defend against the pass.
    The thought went through my head that "this kid is going to get eaten up in the NFL" without the discipline to stay in the drive concept on a fresh set of downs. Whether he started at his own 20 or his opponents' 40 yard line, Williams was erratic and undisciplined.
    Without question he wasn't coached properly and I was not surprised to see the Trojans crater in 2023. Lincoln Riley, for all his bally-hoo, isn't a seasoned head coach.
    Bob Stoops, the man he replaced, was the CEO of the Sooners. He only won 191 games against 48 losses. Riley will never coach that many Division I games. We should be glad he was exposed as a fraud in college football. Had he been hired to coach an NFL team he would be roadkill.
    Every NFL team should be wary of Williams. He's a raw talent; the skills are there to develop but he definitely is a "project" to learn the pro game. I laughed my butt off when I heard he wanted a percentage of the Bears' ownership in his rookie contract. The kid has had too much money, too many slaps on the back and too many hours admiring himself in the mirror. Is he still teachable? Good question.

  • @paulmancini-sb9qn
    @paulmancini-sb9qn 10 часов назад

    Shanahan and Harbaugh are not going anywhere .. They are happy where they are ..

  • @johnthatjfjfd
    @johnthatjfjfd 14 часов назад +4

    enough with the click bait titles

    • @Robert-oq8ye
      @Robert-oq8ye 14 часов назад

      It's a pretty standard headline for the content

  • @masonmcconnell9375
    @masonmcconnell9375 8 часов назад

    I dont think either team should let them go they would be picked up so fast

  • @tomlittle9103
    @tomlittle9103 9 часов назад

    4:50 "That's a pretty stupid take, Mike." -- Rich

  • @Fourwedge
    @Fourwedge 4 часа назад

    The niners championship window is closed. Time for a new coach and a complete rebuild.

  • @ryandeeg2538
    @ryandeeg2538 11 часов назад

    No way the niners would get rid of shanahan, who would they hire to replace him??

  • @clownkirkpatrick
    @clownkirkpatrick 10 часов назад

    Mike Florio is just football TMZ. Maybe Shanahan, but the odds of that are very low. Harbaugh? Unless he's retiring or something there is literally no chance

  • @shipshore64
    @shipshore64 14 часов назад +4

    I get the headline but it's for sure misleading haha. Love your show and everything guys, but this is more of "possibility of trading for a coach / Shanahan needing a reset"

  • @milkcrate805
    @milkcrate805 11 часов назад

    NFL coaching as a majority is very simplistic minded. These coaches don’t have any true understanding of the game, they are there because of who they know, not what they know. Most of these coaches are hired to replicate instead of novel and innovative.

  • @obrapro
    @obrapro 8 часов назад

    Crapahan should be on the hot seat. A stacked team with 2 second place trophies will put any coach on the hot seat. But Harbaugh? Not his fault the his QB disappears in the post season but he has the King at RB so he should help out. AP needs one full year with a better OC and give AOC a true chance to start from the get go. Draft the top WR in the first round. The Sanders Circus will be exactly that: a circus.

  • @colmodriscoll33
    @colmodriscoll33 12 часов назад

    Florio might actually be on something here. Normally, he just sprout out garbage.

  • @joefried6604
    @joefried6604 Час назад

    Niners need a QB !!!!!!!!!!!!
    Many scouts and coaches in the NFL said so !!!
    PURDY is so bad

  • @nicolebowman8961
    @nicolebowman8961 13 часов назад

    This is exactly why I can't stand Florio, he just engages in rapid speculation all the time, often time with little basis in fact. And since NBC bought his platform, suddenly he has "credibility".

  • @leonjj39
    @leonjj39 10 часов назад

    Bears not giving up picks for a coach. There are too many good ones for free

  • @805weatherman
    @805weatherman 14 часов назад

    I'm surprised Vikings "fan" Florrio didn't pitch KOC trade to anyone, and get rid of Darnold, and reset because 10-2 is not enough for Florio.

  • @joefried6604
    @joefried6604 Час назад

    Browns
    Cowboys
    raiders
    jags
    Giants
    Bears
    Saints
    Jets
    Panthers
    Titans
    Colts
    BUCs
    Niners
    FINS
    Half the teams are on the table

  • @Mjones4949
    @Mjones4949 3 часа назад

    Please take Kyle

  • @albertoorozco8904
    @albertoorozco8904 8 часов назад

    Florio is FOS!

  • @jeffhaskell8259
    @jeffhaskell8259 2 часа назад

    Does Florio soak cork like Shefter

  • @Doc_Terminus
    @Doc_Terminus 13 часов назад

    John might be up for that because if you've ever seen his face during a game, he looks like he's tired and about to throw up the entire game

  • @skywalkerbo
    @skywalkerbo 12 часов назад

    Harbaugh to Michigan lol

  • @DK32087
    @DK32087 14 часов назад +5

    This is dumb, the Niners just went to the Superbowl last season and are having an off year with some crazy bad luck this season which includes: a holdout from their number 1 receiver who then got injured for the entire season, their rookie 1st round receiver missing games due to being shot in the offseason, their number 2 receiver missing time by somehow getting pneumonia in the middle of the season that maybe still affecting him, their OPOY starting RB missing the first third of the season and now probably the remainder of it, their starting CB missing games due to a tragic loss of his child and now their starting All Pro LT experiencing a similar loss and most likely missing time as well. All of this occurred along with other guys in and out of the lineup like their DPOY DE and with a first time defensive coordinator who's looking like he's not the right guy either but they're somehow still alive and in play for the division, unlikely as it is. I mean Shanahan's definitely got to improve upon some things but if ownership has any thought of moving on from him they've not learned anything from how they handled the Harbaugh situation. This is a bad year for the Niners but if they don't make the playoffs I could realistically see them regrouping and retooling in the offseason and back to dominant form next season, as long as Kyle Shanahan is still there.

  • @ML4451
    @ML4451 12 часов назад

    The Bears owners and front office aren't smart enough to do this, they'll probably hire Kliff Kingsbury and have the same results they had with Eberflus.

  • @SonnyD4359
    @SonnyD4359 12 часов назад

    Florio is a 49er hater. Everything he reports on is skewed that way

  • @Mursedave
    @Mursedave 8 часов назад

    Kyle is only on the hot seat because of the toxic Niner fan base. Their are a lot of great Niner fans but some forgot about the past. We have it great!!! One bad year with tumultuous injuries is no reason to be on hot seat.

  • @brendan74
    @brendan74 4 часа назад

    This is one of the dumbest takes I’ve heard. In no world are the 9ers trading Kyle, like what? 3 straight NFC championships, 2 Super Bowl births? What is this guy talking about?

  • @bryanflores3633
    @bryanflores3633 3 часа назад

    Well that was a waste of time

  • @createluxuryliving8136
    @createluxuryliving8136 6 часов назад

    Kyle Shannan and Caleb Williams will win multiple superbowls; one day we will see multiple Caleb vs Mahomes SuperBowl match up like Bird and Magic in the 80s. The NFC unfortunately has no true perennial contenders and Shannan is 0-2 vs Reid I know he is itching to get his first win and what better way than to take on a really young potential star studded team with a true superstar in the making of a QB and a young solid defense as well as good pieces on the skill position. If I were Kyle I will just make sure the language in my contract gives me some kind of say so on the players we pick and also the hiring and firing of my coordinators and this guy will be going against Andy Reid in the superbowl in 2026. No lead is safe with Caleb and he has shown that in multiple games this season including the last three weeks of almost making a comeback down 21, 23 and even one time with 33 seconds left down 10. Buddy needs the right voice in his head and Houston we have a problem

  • @ToddJoseph-u7c
    @ToddJoseph-u7c 3 часа назад

    Kyle is going nowhere. Good lord.

  • @TheKT415
    @TheKT415 14 часов назад +2

    LOOL Florio

  • @sandison77
    @sandison77 9 часов назад

    Kyle Shanahan worst clock management in games and superbowls. He is coaching an allstar team cheating the cap which will hit in next couple years
    Just like payton leaving saints in cap hell.

  • @strawberryreacts9585
    @strawberryreacts9585 14 часов назад +6

    "can you imagine Kyle Shanahan with Caleb Williams?" Shanahan is notoriously hard on his QBs....Caleb would be in the stands crying to his mom.
    Also, Shanahan doesn't develop QBs. I'd give it 2 months before Bears fans would be trying to fire Shanahan.

    • @Peppers19781978
      @Peppers19781978 9 часов назад

      Shanahan is one of the softest coaches in the NFL. Shanahan threw a temper tantrum the entire 2022 preseason and training camp when the NFL wouldnt allow him to wear his custom hat. He finished that season getting destroyed in the NFC title game, putting injured Purdy back into the game knowing he couldnt throw. He doesnt care about player saftey and always puts guys out there injured and guys always are hurt. On Sunday on NFL Network, Steve Smith called out Shanny and the Niners for always getting their players hurt, playing them hurt. Should be interesting when Purdy and Jennings demand big contacts....because that is coming. This guy also let his WR trash talk all the time, they demand all this money, the team pays them and then neither show up after being paid. Samuel got paid after a fluke year, hasnt done anything since. Aiyuk got paid, looked out of shape and struggled this year before going on IR. The Niners will never win a SB with Shanahan and Lynch. They have a SB caliber team each year.

    • @strawberryreacts9585
      @strawberryreacts9585 9 часов назад

      @Peppers19781978 Jennings already got his contract this offseason. They should just cut Purdy, he's 🗑️. What they should do is take their entire 2025 draft capital and trade it to get the 1st overall pick and get the strongest arm QB in the draft. Don't need to upgrade anything because Brock is the sole reason they are losing.

    • @173jaSon371
      @173jaSon371 9 часов назад

      @@strawberryreacts9585 This has got to be satire lmao. Both comments. Right? RIGHT???

  • @alexshirley6096
    @alexshirley6096 11 часов назад

    Mike florio is always wrong

  • @insulasagna212
    @insulasagna212 7 часов назад

    Ultimately, Florio is a fiction writer and a bad one.

  • @dianej1714
    @dianej1714 3 часа назад

    Why is he yelling??

  • @Lovemate5571
    @Lovemate5571 9 часов назад +1

    Well, the Harbaugh idea is just plain nuts.
    No matter who's calling the Ravens about Harbaugh, I don't think neither the club nor John would even bother to entertain this rather absurd train of thought.
    Shanahan on the other hand is not so far off the table.
    The Niners are going nowhere fast and an aging roster, bad injury luck and in part complacency have the fan base (as well as ownership) going rabid recently.
    If they just fade away without another losing season, questions that include Shanahans future with the franchise will certainly be asked.
    Shanahan is in his 8th year with the club, and went to 4 CG's and 2 SB's.
    While he did lose the SB's his overall success can't be ignored.
    But he also had 3 losing seasons (6-10 twice and 4-12 once) and a 4th is very likely.
    A fresh start could benefit the Niners as well as Shanahan - especially when somebody is offering draft capital for his services.
    So while one idea is just hot air the second one could actually hold some thruth.

  • @DKimbz57
    @DKimbz57 10 часов назад

    That dude is the single worst source of information relating to football. When i hear or see his face on a video or tv i turn it off.

  • @stephanhi2463
    @stephanhi2463 13 часов назад +1

    Just a reminder: Florio predicted last season that Andy Reid will retire after the season.
    A few weeks later he extended his contact 😂

  • @aaronfarley14
    @aaronfarley14 11 часов назад

    I don’t necessarily disagree with Mike regarding SF and maybe Kyle and the players would benefit from a new voice and Caleb having an offensive coach like kyle???🏈
    There’s psychological issues in SF !!!!

  • @byrdboykins8985
    @byrdboykins8985 7 часов назад

    Lol, now we see you guys have nothing to talk about. These are quality and winning coaches. None of these guys are in a hot seat at all. You guys need to find some resl content to talk about instead of making uo lies. 😂😂😂😂

  • @Klgrey6341
    @Klgrey6341 13 часов назад +1

    🙄

  • @asacloutier7530
    @asacloutier7530 13 часов назад +1

    Harbaugh got lucky landing Henry this season as nobody seems to remember his top 5 All-time worst coached games in the NFL last season........ Guy made so many blunders from scheme to gameplan to getting away from Lamar running, it was atrocious.
    Kyle Shanahan needs to be allowed to have a 104 man roster because the only reason that guy seems to lose games and superbowls is because he's down to 3rd stringers. I have never seen a coach lose more QBs and RB's to season ending injuries than him and its not even close. Give the man 12 extra roster spots for RBs and 5 extra spots for QBs and then Kyle will finally win a chip. He should probably focus on the 3rd stringers and practice squad players in August because those are the only guys he'll have playing by December.

  • @Ryanrobinson99
    @Ryanrobinson99 13 часов назад

    The ravens are not getting rid of John Harbaugh. I can tell you that right now lol

    • @ericespinoza373
      @ericespinoza373 12 часов назад +1

      They're such a well run organization. That would never happen. Crazy how they are the Cleveland Browns and overnight became a well run organization. I remember the horrible 90s in Cleveland.

    • @Ryanrobinson99
      @Ryanrobinson99 12 часов назад

      @ yeah, I remember seeing a bunch of stuff on that!! But they are a phenomenal ran organization. They would never fire him specially, after he brought them a Super Bowl, or even talk about trading him once he’s ready to step away that’s when it’ll be time.

    • @Ryanrobinson99
      @Ryanrobinson99 12 часов назад

      @ especially now that his brother is in the same conference. I think they are very content with where they’re both at.