Leave no stone unearthed, you sound like my grandfather, there's been no other man like him, I say it like this, leave no stone unturned, nice vid and worke Mike, wish u was in my little town, we need one of you here badly,
I've been doing heating and cooling for almost ten years in western PA and encountered my first steam boiler ever last week and it was oil fired. I can handle the fuel oil part but your videos I watched over the past few years made easy work of the diagnostic and maintenance of the steam boiler part. I did a flush, pressuretrol and pigtail clean out, sight glass replacement and LWCO probe scraping and descaling and it has been running perfectly since thanks to your informative videos. Plus a hefty quote for steam pipe replacement. Thank you very much!
Nice. Back in the dark ages, pre internet and cells. Had a call at an apartment building for no heat. Maintenance guy met me and watched while I diagnosed. Bad LWCO. Maintenance guy says he has one and can change out. Billed out my time and left. 3 weeks later read about it in the paper. He wired out the lwco. By the time the fire department got there the boiler room and steel door was just over 600 degrees. Took 3 days to cool down.
Leave No Stone Unturned --- Great job of troubleshooting! It can be a real pain when a machine goes to working and you have no idea what caused it. Intermittent problems are the worst!
Nice job troubleshooting, Mikey. I'm glad you waited for the complete cycle. A quick and 'delicate' test of that aquastat is to check for voltage across it's terminals. If voltage present, the switch is open. I like to use this method whenever there's easy and quick access to terminals.
I had the same issue couple years ago but with aquastat relay, it was overheating the system and the relief valve was popping off. If I would wait like you did here it would save me a call back and my face in front of the customer. Never rush to leave, lesson learned.
That was a brain teaser ❤ Great job! Question tho? At 15:30? hooking up the common for the low water cut off. I would have used a piggyback spade connector.. I mean it will work either way. I just like to have it on spade connector so if I have to replace it, it’s just kind of a plug and play deal. That’s the only thing I do differently than you do but regardless, we can put 100 guys in the same room and all 100 of us will do something a little bit differently, but I love the piggy back spade connectors.🤷🏻♂️
Open Circuit = Broken Wire or Open in Device. The thermal portion of the high limit switch was probably bad. If it was a short in the wiring or high limit device the gas valve would have ignited the burners and remained on.
I'm always trying to be honest! Remember if you live in the Long Island New York City metropolitan area and need a plumber for heating repair give us a call at 516-348-6300
Great video Mikey! Lots of details. One question for you. Does it matter if the LWCO is on the "from system"water pipe. Or if it is on the "to system" water pipe?
No OBD port to run an all-component diagnostic? Reminds me of the days before cars had such a port. Amazing when tradesmen ask clients questions, in order to help figure out what changed from when things worked to when they did not... I get the same kind of responses.
Mikey , Im also a HVAC tech and just pass along a tip perhaps, when it comes to stranded wire around a screw it can be more frustrating than looking for sasquatch!! Use a quick crimp connector, so easy and quick, without the frustration!!! In many mini split connections jammed , crimp connector is your friend 😉🖖🤙
I would charge this dough bag double!! Especially since you asked him if anything was done, he said No! Then it's like oh yeah I turned off them 3 valves, replaced thermostat, after troubleshooting for 10 min!! These types of people drive me nuts!! Just be honest, it would make it easier, and say you money! No BS Charge him at least double
You’re right! DIYing your boiler is like trying to perform surgery on yourself-just don’t do it! Leave it to the pros like Mike, who actually know which end of the wrench to use!
It seems that it was the Aqua stat after that moving around it could have been tripped and didn't close back, but unplugging the wires, could have "fixed" the contacts to close again. 👍🤠
Not ever living anywhere where boilers are used, I am curious if they require periodic dusting or cleaning and are they for heating the house or water or both?
Had to clear a p-trap of grease one time, asked the tenant not to pour grease down the drain. Said they didn't do it. Asked them if it was working fine the week prior, they said it was draining fine then.............the look on their face after they said it was priceless 😆
@@PipeDoctor They should at least have left a putz sticker on the machine, you you know they were there. I still like the no license-no permit basement remodeler who capped off the heat ! That was funny.
As an electrician easily the conversation I have when I first walk in is 75% of my trouble shooting. Hold back information then it just goes to billable time.
these kind of customers are the reason why I always assume customers are holding back or just plain lying to me. "has anyone serviced your equipment lately?" "no.. well... yeah i closed those valves... etc"
Was it a short or was it the damper motor not finding the right position , it seem to me after you forced the damper and got that odd feedback sound is when the damper cycled and then it lit .. you messed with the shaft on damper it 1/2 cycled to the home position you then went right to the stat pulled the wire plugged it back in and you look right at the damper as its powered back up & it fully cycled to the open position and lit you then said right off it was a short ... I can only assume that if that damper is not in the right place it won't light , mind you i'm not a HVAC tech but i am a appliance tech . I was the same way as to not throwing parts at the customer & would just let them know to keep a eye on it and let me know but that damper would be suspect number one in my mind .
That's why my old boss would say spend time check it twice three times no call backs back in the seventies you would have your coffee and a Marlboro cigarette😅 and watch the boiler work properly
I am lazy, I add cold water into the system when I want to see it cycle. My Dads boiler would never reach the target high limit, if it was set to 180 it would only hit 140 and short cycle.
The Characters you Meet and the Stories they tell yo7 are Priceless. It’s Obvious they’re Clueless if they Think you’re going to Believe 20% of what they Tell you🤪👎
I always wonder why you don't bring your tool bag when you walk up to the house. Yes, I know occasionally all you have to do is turn on the emergency switch or press the reset button. But those are few, and the vast majority of the time you make the trek back to the van for the tools when you could have them with you at first look. Not a criticism, you do it your way if you like, it just seems like a waste of four or five minutes to me.
As a young tech I think we are expected to bring in our tools everytime but as an old tech if we can ;get by with just a multi-meter, our brains and an 8-1 to save our knees and back a little; it's worth it in the long run. Check out Anti-DIY HVAC: He brings in an 8-1, a voltmeter and a pair of kleins and that's how he solves like 80 percent of his calls. Imagine how much priceless strain he saves his knees and backs in attics and crawlspaces lol
@@joziahcorbett2399Mike is right when l did service calls a T 100 fluke meter and a 5 in 1 screwdriver in a small tool pouch with small refrigeration gauges which l did a lot of refrigeration calls. I laughed at new tech with a tool box or tool pouch that’s pack with tool that weighs over 50 pounds going up ladder and across roof . For me l had different tool pouch’s set up in my service van one that did compressor change out , one for installation, plumbing .
@PipeDoctor correct terminology is more for the ones learning. We know what you mean. It's like calling amps volts when on the phone with a tech. Keep up your good work ! GOD bless, happy holidays !
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Yep we never get whole story even if we.dig.and dig....
Great video attention to detail
Leave no stone unearthed, you sound like my grandfather, there's been no other man like him, I say it like this, leave no stone unturned, nice vid and worke Mike, wish u was in my little town, we need one of you here badly,
Pipe Doctor is redefining customer service. Always on time and prepared!
That's just......standard customer service lol
I've been doing heating and cooling for almost ten years in western PA and encountered my first steam boiler ever last week and it was oil fired. I can handle the fuel oil part but your videos I watched over the past few years made easy work of the diagnostic and maintenance of the steam boiler part. I did a flush, pressuretrol and pigtail clean out, sight glass replacement and LWCO probe scraping and descaling and it has been running perfectly since thanks to your informative videos. Plus a hefty quote for steam pipe replacement. Thank you very much!
Nice. Back in the dark ages, pre internet and cells. Had a call at an apartment building for no heat. Maintenance guy met me and watched while I diagnosed. Bad LWCO. Maintenance guy says he has one and can change out. Billed out my time and left. 3 weeks later read about it in the paper. He wired out the lwco. By the time the fire department got there the boiler room and steel door was just over 600 degrees. Took 3 days to cool down.
That's the diagnosis you deserve to get paid for.
Mikey F’n pipes our hydronic hero
Leave No Stone Unturned --- Great job of troubleshooting! It can be a real pain when a machine goes to working and you have no idea what caused it. Intermittent problems are the worst!
It's always a challenge.
Your fully stocked trucks are a lifesaver for emergency repairs 🚚💨
Nice job troubleshooting, Mikey. I'm glad you waited for the complete cycle. A quick and 'delicate' test of that aquastat is to check for voltage across it's terminals. If voltage present, the switch is open. I like to use this method whenever there's easy and quick access to terminals.
And it's a good way to check other switches/cutouts also. Which ever one has voltage across it is the open one.
Excellent diagnostic skills as always Mikey 🏆🏆🏆
Thank you, I appreciate it.
@@PipeDoctor You are going to have to bring the Grey Goose with you on the jobs where you come across stuff like this. And, bring plenty of zip ties.
Working on heating systems is all about control diagnostics. Mikey is a true diagnostic professional. A "Pipe Doctor".
Your videos are so helpful, especially for understanding what contractors are doing.
Customer for life 💯
I had the same issue couple years ago but with aquastat relay, it was overheating the system and the relief valve was popping off. If I would wait like you did here it would save me a call back and my face in front of the customer.
Never rush to leave, lesson learned.
Not a common replacement, but the trucks stock one
Great job Mike.
Thank you very much
Great work Mike! As always.
Thanks again!
That was a brain teaser ❤ Great job! Question tho? At 15:30? hooking up the common for the low water cut off. I would have used a piggyback spade connector.. I mean it will work either way. I just like to have it on spade connector so if I have to replace it, it’s just kind of a plug and play deal. That’s the only thing I do differently than you do but regardless, we can put 100 guys in the same room and all 100 of us will do something a little bit differently, but I love the piggy back spade connectors.🤷🏻♂️
Jobs like this one make you crazy, it’s working and you’re not sure why they used too keep me up at night waiting for the call
Muy Bien. I'm buying a bag of those 2 way and 3 way connectors. Tie-in LWCO at the thermostat? perfect! Happy Holidays
That’s a great idea!
Your the man Mikey Pipes.
I am far from the man, but thank you for the support
@@PipeDoctor I disagree. You 'da man!
Great call, sometimes its easy and obvious other times it takes patience 😉. Call backs suck for everyone involved. Happy Friday, everyone
It really is a balancing act, isn’t it?
Damn Mikey pipes it’s a late night
GUAUUUUUUU FROM CHICAGO YOU DID SUCH GREAT JOB THANK YOU SO MUCH
I'm doing my best to help people stay warm
Open Circuit = Broken Wire or Open in Device. The thermal portion of the high limit switch was probably bad. If it was a short in the wiring or high limit device the gas valve would have ignited the burners and remained on.
Watching this helped a lot!
Great & honest work. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😁.
I'm always trying to be honest!
Remember if you live in the Long Island New York City metropolitan area and need a plumber for heating repair give us a call at 516-348-6300
Great video Mikey! Lots of details. One question for you. Does it matter if the LWCO is on the "from system"water pipe. Or if it is on the "to system" water pipe?
Nice job , it is always good to let it run through a cycle
The tough part is when you bill time and materials and the customer wants to know why you "sat around" after you got the system running again.
No OBD port to run an all-component diagnostic? Reminds me of the days before cars had such a port. Amazing when tradesmen ask clients questions, in order to help figure out what changed from when things worked to when they did not... I get the same kind of responses.
Mikey , Im also a HVAC tech and just pass along a tip perhaps, when it comes to stranded wire around a screw it can be more frustrating than looking for sasquatch!! Use a quick crimp connector, so easy and quick, without the frustration!!! In many mini split connections jammed , crimp connector is your friend 😉🖖🤙
You are correct
Great job! Keep up the great job and video's!!😂
I would charge this dough bag double!! Especially since you asked him if anything was done, he said No! Then it's like oh yeah I turned off them 3 valves, replaced thermostat, after troubleshooting for 10 min!! These types of people drive me nuts!! Just be honest, it would make it easier, and say you money! No BS Charge him at least double
mikey did you know those fantastic little wago connectors got a little hole to push in a multimeter probe without taking the wires out?
No I don’t know that.
@ the uk ones do, dont know if same over there 🤔 love the vids...
hacks mean stacks........always enjoy your diagnostics...
This video is THE REASON you need to call a pro and NOT DIY your own furnace or boiler. These people like Mike know what they are doing!
You’re right! DIYing your boiler is like trying to perform surgery on yourself-just don’t do it! Leave it to the pros like Mike, who actually know which end of the wrench to use!
Great video. Thank you for sharing
Thanks for watching!
It seems that it was the Aqua stat after that moving around it could have been tripped and didn't close back, but unplugging the wires, could have "fixed" the contacts to close again. 👍🤠
You're right.
Not ever living anywhere where boilers are used, I am curious if they require periodic dusting or cleaning and are they for heating the house or water or both?
Use your meter checking voltage across switches instead of taking wires off of components to ohm them out
Can’t recommend enough!
Ah sir did anyone touch or work on the unit NO. oh yeah friend did what a putz 😂
The lies. Oh the lies
@PipeDoctor I loved catching customers in lies lol
Had to clear a p-trap of grease one time, asked the tenant not to pour grease down the drain. Said they didn't do it. Asked them if it was working fine the week prior, they said it was draining fine then.............the look on their face after they said it was priceless 😆
@@PipeDoctor They should at least have left a putz sticker on the machine, you you know they were there. I still like the no license-no permit basement remodeler who capped off the heat ! That was funny.
As an electrician easily the conversation I have when I first walk in is 75% of my trouble shooting. Hold back information then it just goes to billable time.
these kind of customers are the reason why I always assume customers are holding back or just plain lying to me. "has anyone serviced your equipment lately?" "no.. well... yeah i closed those valves... etc"
When you coming to Suffolk .
Always hire mikey pipes
Was it a short or was it the damper motor not finding the right position , it seem to me after you forced the damper and got that odd feedback sound is when the damper cycled and then it lit .. you messed with the shaft on damper it 1/2 cycled to the home position you then went right to the stat pulled the wire plugged it back in and you look right at the damper as its powered back up & it fully cycled to the open position and lit you then said right off it was a short ...
I can only assume that if that damper is not in the right place it won't light , mind you i'm not a HVAC tech but i am a appliance tech . I was the same way as to not throwing parts at the customer & would just let them know to keep a eye on it and let me know but that damper would be suspect number one in my mind .
That's why my old boss would say spend time check it twice three times no call backs back in the seventies you would have your coffee and a Marlboro cigarette😅 and watch the boiler work properly
The control circuit was open, not shorted. Short would take out the 24volt fuse
I am lazy, I add cold water into the system when I want to see it cycle.
My Dads boiler would never reach the target high limit, if it was set to 180 it would only hit 140 and short cycle.
Mikey, it seemed like everything was good after you jogged the damper motor. Stuck?
Edit: opps, watched to the end...great job Mr. Doctor!
mikey..wheres thee red carpet lol?
Was that just a standard L4006A?
The Characters you Meet and the Stories they tell yo7 are Priceless. It’s Obvious they’re Clueless if they Think you’re going to Believe 20% of what they Tell you🤪👎
A short burns transformer winding or it's therm switch goes off/on/off.......
That vent dampner motor ng. It was hung up. New motor
Nope
@PipeDoctor bad aquastat I saw
your short was an open.
He said it
Should charge extra when the customer lies and tries to cover hack work up
Oh, it was factored into the price
One thing you don't do, is lie to your doctor.
Mikey pipes loves a good challenge
wow👍
Why was this guy holding out on information that would assist making the service call quicker? Makes no sense
I don’t know why
They always do that- they don’t want to say they broke it or f with it
Mike keeping our trade great. Spent the time found the problem
Why not use a 24 volt stupid stick for quick check ?
I always wonder why you don't bring your tool bag when you walk up to the house. Yes, I know occasionally all you have to do is turn on the emergency switch or press the reset button. But those are few, and the vast majority of the time you make the trek back to the van for the tools when you could have them with you at first look. Not a criticism, you do it your way if you like, it just seems like a waste of four or five minutes to me.
As a young tech I think we are expected to bring in our tools everytime but as an old tech if we can ;get by with just a multi-meter, our brains and an 8-1 to save our knees and back a little; it's worth it in the long run. Check out Anti-DIY HVAC: He brings in an 8-1, a voltmeter and a pair of kleins and that's how he solves like 80 percent of his calls. Imagine how much priceless strain he saves his knees and backs in attics and crawlspaces lol
Hvac guys carry alot of different types of tools, you don't know the problem until you go and see what the problem is..
@@joziahcorbett2399Mike is right when l did service calls a T 100 fluke meter and a 5 in 1 screwdriver in a small tool pouch with small refrigeration gauges which l did a lot of refrigeration calls. I laughed at new tech with a tool box or tool pouch that’s pack with tool that weighs over 50 pounds going up ladder and across roof . For me l had different tool pouch’s set up in my service van one that did compressor change out , one for installation, plumbing .
Good one Mikey Pipes 😊
NO WIRE LEFT UNTONED
Open circuit
Not short
Do you have the obvious need to correct me on purpose?
@PipeDoctor correct terminology is more for the ones learning. We know what you mean. It's like calling amps volts when on the phone with a tech.
Keep up your good work !
GOD bless, happy holidays !
Damper was hanging up
L4006A
It's HVAC House! Customers/patients always lie and don't tell you the whole story!
180 normal temp
Bats in the Belfree mama
Mikey Effin Pipes wearing gloves?
I don't know, what do you think?
@@PipeDoctor I always did. Take care of your hands, they’re your money makers!
You better wire lwco !
Last one out!!!
No-Bodys
👍
“Did anyone touch or service this?” No. I just dumped out water and touched it
So no combustion test lol
Suck it
@@PipeDoctor LOLOLOL!
I left the industry 10 years ago, still gotta laugh that the bs is still going on.
No tone I need tone
that armored cable coming through the hole is a sure sign of a moron did this installation
first
291st thumbs uP
Apollo 13 flight control ? do we have a go or no go? copy? Mikey we back on VOX again or Baby VOX again, copy, Love me some peanut butter sandwich again.
I have done that “duh” at 6:13 plenty of times. It is usually is followed by me insulting myself