Hi rugs, nice vid. I just have a few questions: - 3:45 If you consider GBOK, wouldn't it be 0.59*1.1 = 0.65 SP / spirit ? And 10/11% hit rating is only for Suppression spec so it's not the hitcap for all talents spec. - 4:37 since spirit gives so much there are situations where it's better to gem SP + spirit to get socket bonus (especially in T9 and T10) depending on socket bonus. And you never put orange gems, ever ? - 4:51 are you sure about no engineering? Especially since you even show footage of Merfin playing with Enginnering. - 5:34 you write to use potion after soul fire whereas at 6:41 he pots before. Generally speaking I think you get in combat when you have a spell flying towards the boss no? - 8:12 Concerning demon charge, the interesting comparison would be: if you are at 20 yards from a group of adds, do you spam seed or do you Charge => Immolation Aura + Shadowflame and then Seed ? - 8:30 Same question, if you are at 20 - 25 yards from the boss, is it still best to go melee for Immo Aura (and then do you use Charge) or do you just spam spell from 20 yards ? And under execution phase ? To sum up, I'd say that you suggest to play as a pure SP bot (with full spell power + spirit, no engi etc). Don't you think that there's a point where improving your own DPS is better than just stacking SP to buff raid ? Pretty sure there's a balance to find between stats and it's slightly more complex that just stacking only SP. Would be interested to see the maths behind. Finally i think there's a lot more interesting things to be said and it's too bad to do only a 9 min guide, especially if you cover all tiers of WOTLK.
1. Yes, other specs needs 14% or 13% respectively 2. True, you dont put orange gems in, this only increases your personal dmg not your raid 3. Assuming you want to buff your raid I am sure, engineering gives almost no SP (only from cloak), you can always use a swiftness pot for tricky situations. (ofc this will also nerf your SP since you cant wild magic pot, but these ''oops'' moments dont happen every pull. while you're still stuck with engi every pull 4. Depends if it puts you in combat or not (some guilds players like to pull before the timer so I play it save and pot before) 5. You can still charge it depends on how high the adds are and how much time you gain but for single target its often not worth the GCD 6. its prob just best to refresh your lifetap and dot up some adds instead of charging in that situation, but again it depends on the amount of adds and how much hp they have left, the point I was trying to make mostly was its not worth to waste charge for a single target immolation aura
Also engineering is completely viable with the current ''non progress'' meta imo this guide was written purely from a ''buffed content progress PoV'' - all JC would do is boost your other casters, but I think not having you slob around in the back without engi boots is more detrimental to a speedrun/kill. That's why it called ''support demo'' its not 100% of the time gonna be the best fit for your guild, it's gonna give your casters the most dmg however, its up to them to make up for what you lose
I would like to highlight that Demonic Pact has been updated in WOTLK Classic and this makes it much easier snapshot than in 3.3.5: "Demonic Pact will no longer overwrite an existing Demonic Pact buff, unless: There are less than 10 seconds left on the buff (e.g. it has been up for 35 seconds or more). The spell power bonus of the new buff are higher than or equal to the power of the existing buff. Additionally, The internal cooldown of Demonic Pact has been lowered to 5 seconds (was 20 seconds)." As the strongest buff is always applied it makes it more of a "set and forget", the ICD being reduced to 5 seconds makes it easier to update Demonic Pact with more procs aligned. One thing to mention about Glyphs, Felguard always simmed the most DPS increase from memory (admittedly QD damage doesn't correctly capture the increased uptime in MC on something like Rawr). It makes sense to swap Felguard out for Metamorphosis on a private server where Felguard most likely isn't scripted properly, but assuming on WOTLK classic they fix the Felguard's damage, will it be worth Swapping out the Felguard for Metamorphosis? Or swapping out a different Glyph like QD? Unsure if you have any numbers to back this up, might be worth testing on the beta too.
Even on private servers felguard (where it is weaker) was USUALLY the glyph of choice, I only glyphed meta if pets were useless on a fight like thaddius or BQL, or if execute was extremely important (36 sec meta execute instead of 30) - for overall damage nothing should have changed, im assuming quick decay is still #2 GOAT trinket but it doesnt work on beta atm, thats why people are not using it there. but they will if it works correctly
Note that the meta (as in playstyle) on classic will be different tho.. its not about boss damage its about speedrunning and overall damage - therefor I retract my engineering statement aswell since you're gonna need it to keep up with ur raid for this I can see dropping QD on trash so you can take both felguard and metamorph aswell as spec into improved corruption
Getting excited for wrath :) I can’t wait to make my own weak aura for snapshotting with color coded spellpower break points so I can see with peripherals lol
Hello, awesome guide! Is there a WA that helps me see how much spell power my pet gives? Also this is a 45sec snapshot? It doesnt update everytime my spell power gets bigger?
for trinket/blood fury, would you use them to boost the 1st demonic pact? or save all the way for meta? given that blizz doesn't normally buff boss HP like private servers do you see anything changing when WotLK classic goes live?
theres nothing stopping you from going meta after demonic pact snapshot - yes less HP in theory makes demo stronger than they are currently due to cooldowns, but makes their execute somewhat less important
Fortunately, thanks to the warlock discord, Blizzard changed it so you can’t overwrite a stronger snapshotted DP with a weaker one. Otherwise yeah you would have to park your felguard.
Would be too short, its a spec simple in theory but hard to execute. I have one in written form but I dont know how to edit videos. (hense why I asked rugs to do it)
With no beta for the classic wrath on official servers how can we be sure that any of this will be accurate due to it being a private server? ( I’m not being judgemental I’m just curious )
We know it because it's in the spell descriptions, the only thing that is left in the dark is how good felguard will be and how good it will scale with gear.
Thank you I was always curious how this stuff gets figured out lol ! Never considered the whole description I thought the numbers and stuff would be off due to different scripts !
This will remain the same, there are 2 big things that can change. If you hold you felguard back to wait to pop a big demo pact, there is some servers that refresh this number rather than replace it. And there is also many private server that have felguard do way less damage as scaling it different, as stated by the guy above me.
You talked a lot about snapshoting demon pact but how to do it in practice? Should I stop pet before I peak on Sp and then tell it to attack? Control somehow the updates of demonic pact after that? Also I think demo lock should keep up the improved shadow bolt buff during affli drain soul window You can also keep up decimate proced by rank 1 shadow bolt with soul fire If you want to use immo aura but are in range it’s good to move close while casting instant spells like corruption and CoD or life tap (better than charging) Good work on the guide!:)
1. Depends on how it will work on live 2. No, mages should (post T7) otherwise it can be done by an affli getting a nightfall proc 3. Soulfire has a 4 seconds casttime.. rank 1 SB is almost instant? its assuming u dont already HAVE decimation up 4. Thats literally whats said
Ok to answer your first question, it seems clear this is the way it will work. You wait for all your spellpower items/cloaks/trinkets whatever to procc and send your pet in and hope to jesus it will crit, if it does. send it back AFTER 20 seconds for ~23seconds to keep the full duration of the super buffed demonic pact. If this will be worth it for the raid DPS is entirely up to your raids casters and their capability of making up for your loss of pet DPS. It's a super annoying mechanic and if you aren't in a top guild or dont wanna minmax support then dont do it. It's not fun, the only reason we even considered doing it was because pets did trash damage on private servers anyways. hopefully this wont be the case on classic.
Thank you for the guide. I'm quite confused about snapshotting demonic pact. It has a 45 second duration and 20 second CD if I understand correctly Let's say you get all potions/procs/trinkets active for a big snapshot on demonic pact, and then your pet crits 20 seconds later once everything has faded, doesn't the new unbuffed demonic pact overwrite the old buffed demonic pact? Are you going for a snapshot for the 20 seconds? or... Are you going to have the pet stop attacking from 20 seconds -> 45 seconds to keep the full duration of the big snapshot buff?
The way it's supposed to work in it will snapshot for 20 seconds, and then you indeed stop attacking with your pet. It's hard to know when this is worth it or not tho. however we'll have to wait and see how it works on live. it works different on every server so far so I'm not 100% sure
So I'm currently a orc lock in tbc with jc and tailoring (coincidentally) is the sp proc from tailoring really that huge? I'd really hate to miss out on everything eng offers, and what if I have a pvp interest? does not having eng kinda nerf me a good bit? I'm really torn on the subject, but I am interested in demo pve.
Tailoring is around 72SP on its own (by far the strongest SP prof) - JC at #2 with 60. I only pvp as affli and destro so dunno about the pvp part, but engineering is likely better than JC, atleast during phase 2. phase 1 just doesnt require a lot of movement so rocket boots are rarely used in my experience (except in speedruns) - Tailoring and Engi also nerf eachother because they both have spellpower enchants as a bonus but you only want to use tailoring. personaly im going Engi/Tailoring. but im in a speedrun guild. if I was not I would go JC/Tailor and then swap JC to Engi in Phase 2.
I Dit play A warlock back in the days, but i was really dumm Teen and could not play a warlock. I would realy like to try the Demo Lock again this time looks really fun.
What are thoughts on Nemesis talent? For Dungeons, If you really wanna min max, you Will get to use more metas,(given that the pulls line up well, and you're not holding of.. but yeah, dungeons isnt really what matters.. For raids, The boss fight gotta be atleast 2:35 ish to be able to get 2 metas in a fight, And if its around 3:30-4:20, you would get 2 metas even without the talent. Until a few days we were all expecting the wrath we are used to, but it seems Blizzard are buffing naxx, which might make this talent more useful. Because without a naxx buff, pretty much all fights are sub 2 mins
@@jamiekaspers5769 With this in mind, are you going Tailoring Engi or Tailor JC? From what I hear most ppl are saying engi's QoL etc is too big to pass up even as demo, any thoughts?
shadowflame yes, it acts as a seperate aoe cap. hellfire no, you cant use it at the same time as ur seeding. maybe you can use it at the end of a trashpack where ur seeds wont proc but thats about it
You want to delay these attacks often. sometimes due to proccs, sometimes due to adds spawning later, etc. so yeah keep a normal keybind open for normal meta.
Demo guide waiting room , also if you know a good one or maybe you want to make one about survival Hunter , I can't find anything decent and only a few players actual manage to pull that off splendently I'm talking about Pogressive Servers #IJustWantToBeAPumper
If you're in a speedrun guild I would not drop it either. If not, engineering is one of the weakest contributors to the demonic pact there is, and you should not be given loot prio.
"Start of video": Demo lock is really strong support => Me = interested. 1:35 "You have to NOT attack with your pet until you get all procs in and stars aligned. => Me = un-interested.. hell no.. annoying.
We made blizzard change it, pet afking is not a thing anymore currently on beta as it was never intended to be a thing in the first place so the ICD is 5 sec instead of 20 now
Hi Rugs, where can I find the UI in the clip at 8:54?
What I dont understand is: 1:57 Why would u take the point for the Healthstone from Fel Synergy instead of from Demonic Embrace?
Quicker pet summon, its a flexible talent together with 2/2 fel syn 2/2 imp hs etc
Hi rugs, nice vid. I just have a few questions:
- 3:45 If you consider GBOK, wouldn't it be 0.59*1.1 = 0.65 SP / spirit ? And 10/11% hit rating is only for Suppression spec so it's not the hitcap for all talents spec.
- 4:37 since spirit gives so much there are situations where it's better to gem SP + spirit to get socket bonus (especially in T9 and T10) depending on socket bonus. And you never put orange gems, ever ?
- 4:51 are you sure about no engineering? Especially since you even show footage of Merfin playing with Enginnering.
- 5:34 you write to use potion after soul fire whereas at 6:41 he pots before. Generally speaking I think you get in combat when you have a spell flying towards the boss no?
- 8:12 Concerning demon charge, the interesting comparison would be: if you are at 20 yards from a group of adds, do you spam seed or do you Charge => Immolation Aura + Shadowflame and then Seed ?
- 8:30 Same question, if you are at 20 - 25 yards from the boss, is it still best to go melee for Immo Aura (and then do you use Charge) or do you just spam spell from 20 yards ? And under execution phase ?
To sum up, I'd say that you suggest to play as a pure SP bot (with full spell power + spirit, no engi etc). Don't you think that there's a point where improving your own DPS is better than just stacking SP to buff raid ? Pretty sure there's a balance to find between stats and it's slightly more complex that just stacking only SP. Would be interested to see the maths behind.
Finally i think there's a lot more interesting things to be said and it's too bad to do only a 9 min guide, especially if you cover all tiers of WOTLK.
1. Yes, other specs needs 14% or 13% respectively
2. True, you dont put orange gems in, this only increases your personal dmg not your raid
3. Assuming you want to buff your raid I am sure, engineering gives almost no SP (only from cloak), you can always use a swiftness pot for tricky situations. (ofc this will also nerf your SP since you cant wild magic pot, but these ''oops'' moments dont happen every pull. while you're still stuck with engi every pull
4. Depends if it puts you in combat or not (some guilds players like to pull before the timer so I play it save and pot before)
5. You can still charge it depends on how high the adds are and how much time you gain but for single target its often not worth the GCD
6. its prob just best to refresh your lifetap and dot up some adds instead of charging in that situation, but again it depends on the amount of adds and how much hp they have left,
the point I was trying to make mostly was its not worth to waste charge for a single target immolation aura
@@jamiekaspers5769 If you were to Engi in Classic Wrath due to speed running would you go JC or Tailoring as your 2nd profession?
@@loganhallow7091 Tailoring
Also engineering is completely viable with the current ''non progress'' meta imo this guide was written purely from a ''buffed content progress PoV'' - all JC would do is boost your other casters, but I think not having you slob around in the back without engi boots is more detrimental to a speedrun/kill.
That's why it called ''support demo'' its not 100% of the time gonna be the best fit for your guild, it's gonna give your casters the most dmg however, its up to them to make up for what you lose
@@loganhallow7091 Tailoring because its stackable with your trinket proccs etc for DP
Can you update this upon release
Great vid! Do you know if it's worth to summon infernal for the last 45 sec of the fight? (after getting the last demonic pact)? ty!
I would like to highlight that Demonic Pact has been updated in WOTLK Classic and this makes it much easier snapshot than in 3.3.5:
"Demonic Pact will no longer overwrite an existing Demonic Pact buff, unless:
There are less than 10 seconds left on the buff (e.g. it has been up for 35 seconds or more).
The spell power bonus of the new buff are higher than or equal to the power of the existing buff.
Additionally,
The internal cooldown of Demonic Pact has been lowered to 5 seconds (was 20 seconds)."
As the strongest buff is always applied it makes it more of a "set and forget", the ICD being reduced to 5 seconds makes it easier to update Demonic Pact with more procs aligned.
One thing to mention about Glyphs, Felguard always simmed the most DPS increase from memory (admittedly QD damage doesn't correctly capture the increased uptime in MC on something like Rawr). It makes sense to swap Felguard out for Metamorphosis on a private server where Felguard most likely isn't scripted properly, but assuming on WOTLK classic they fix the Felguard's damage, will it be worth Swapping out the Felguard for Metamorphosis? Or swapping out a different Glyph like QD? Unsure if you have any numbers to back this up, might be worth testing on the beta too.
ur welcome
@@jamiekaspers5769 Idk if you have the information to hand/even playing demo anymore but do u have any info/numbers on the glyphs (Felguard/QD/Meta)?
Even on private servers felguard (where it is weaker) was USUALLY the glyph of choice, I only glyphed meta if pets were useless on a fight like thaddius or BQL, or if execute was extremely important (36 sec meta execute instead of 30) - for overall damage nothing should have changed, im assuming quick decay is still #2 GOAT trinket but it doesnt work on beta atm, thats why people are not using it there. but they will if it works correctly
@@JeZzaProductions Actually.. I got baited into playing it again for atleast first couple resets
Note that the meta (as in playstyle) on classic will be different tho.. its not about boss damage its about speedrunning and overall damage - therefor I retract my engineering statement aswell since you're gonna need it to keep up with ur raid for this I can see dropping QD on trash so you can take both felguard and metamorph aswell as spec into improved corruption
What addon do you use to track ur debuffs and also that amount of spell power provided via Demonic pack?
Weakaura
where can I get that weakaura?
Merfin sells it for subs
Getting excited for wrath :) I can’t wait to make my own weak aura for snapshotting with color coded spellpower break points so I can see with peripherals lol
did u make one of those? :P
Can we get a Shadow Priest guide?
Hello, awesome guide! Is there a WA that helps me see how much spell power my pet gives? Also this is a 45sec snapshot? It doesnt update everytime my spell power gets bigger?
Yes they exist it ICD for the snapshot is 20 sec so it cant uptime more often than that.
for trinket/blood fury, would you use them to boost the 1st demonic pact? or save all the way for meta?
given that blizz doesn't normally buff boss HP like private servers do you see anything changing when WotLK classic goes live?
theres nothing stopping you from going meta after demonic pact snapshot - yes less HP in theory makes demo stronger than they are currently due to cooldowns, but makes their execute somewhat less important
after the first big demonic pact, do you leave your pet in or call it back to try and pull of another big one
Fortunately, thanks to the warlock discord, Blizzard changed it so you can’t overwrite a stronger snapshotted DP with a weaker one. Otherwise yeah you would have to park your felguard.
Heya..would you be able to provide a good weak aura script like the ones in the clips just shown? Ty
www.twitch.tv/merfin
I'd love to see an Affliction guide
Would be too short, its a spec simple in theory but hard to execute.
I have one in written form but I dont know how to edit videos. (hense why I asked rugs to do it)
@@jamiekaspers5769 what professions for affli?
@@twixwhite Engi Tailor like every caster dps
@@jamiekaspers5769 okay thank you :)
With no beta for the classic wrath on official servers how can we be sure that any of this will be accurate due to it being a private server? ( I’m not being judgemental I’m just curious )
We know it because it's in the spell descriptions, the only thing that is left in the dark is how good felguard will be and how good it will scale with gear.
Thank you I was always curious how this stuff gets figured out lol ! Never considered the whole description I thought the numbers and stuff would be off due to different scripts !
This will remain the same, there are 2 big things that can change. If you hold you felguard back to wait to pop a big demo pact, there is some servers that refresh this number rather than replace it. And there is also many private server that have felguard do way less damage as scaling it different, as stated by the guy above me.
@@sebastianmonzon6285 its on a 20 second cooldown when working correctly,. so lets assume that for classic.
You talked a lot about snapshoting demon pact but how to do it in practice? Should I stop pet before I peak on Sp and then tell it to attack? Control somehow the updates of demonic pact after that?
Also I think demo lock should keep up the improved shadow bolt buff during affli drain soul window
You can also keep up decimate proced by rank 1 shadow bolt with soul fire
If you want to use immo aura but are in range it’s good to move close while casting instant spells like corruption and CoD or life tap (better than charging)
Good work on the guide!:)
1. Depends on how it will work on live
2. No, mages should (post T7) otherwise it can be done by an affli getting a nightfall proc
3. Soulfire has a 4 seconds casttime.. rank 1 SB is almost instant? its assuming u dont already HAVE decimation up
4. Thats literally whats said
Ok to answer your first question, it seems clear this is the way it will work.
You wait for all your spellpower items/cloaks/trinkets whatever to procc and send your pet in and hope to jesus it will crit, if it does. send it back AFTER 20 seconds for ~23seconds to keep the full duration of the super buffed demonic pact.
If this will be worth it for the raid DPS is entirely up to your raids casters and their capability of making up for your loss of pet DPS.
It's a super annoying mechanic and if you aren't in a top guild or dont wanna minmax support then dont do it. It's not fun, the only reason we even considered doing it was because pets did trash damage on private servers anyways. hopefully this wont be the case on classic.
Thank you for the guide. I'm quite confused about snapshotting demonic pact. It has a 45 second duration and 20 second CD if I understand correctly
Let's say you get all potions/procs/trinkets active for a big snapshot on demonic pact, and then your pet crits 20 seconds later once everything has faded, doesn't the new unbuffed demonic pact overwrite the old buffed demonic pact?
Are you going for a snapshot for the 20 seconds? or...
Are you going to have the pet stop attacking from 20 seconds -> 45 seconds to keep the full duration of the big snapshot buff?
The way it's supposed to work in it will snapshot for 20 seconds, and then you indeed stop attacking with your pet.
It's hard to know when this is worth it or not tho.
however we'll have to wait and see how it works on live. it works different on every server so far so I'm not 100% sure
So I'm currently a orc lock in tbc with jc and tailoring (coincidentally) is the sp proc from tailoring really that huge? I'd really hate to miss out on everything eng offers, and what if I have a pvp interest? does not having eng kinda nerf me a good bit? I'm really torn on the subject, but I am interested in demo pve.
Tailoring is around 72SP on its own (by far the strongest SP prof) - JC at #2 with 60. I only pvp as affli and destro so dunno about the pvp part, but engineering is likely better than JC, atleast during phase 2. phase 1 just doesnt require a lot of movement so rocket boots are rarely used in my experience (except in speedruns) - Tailoring and Engi also nerf eachother because they both have spellpower enchants as a bonus but you only want to use tailoring.
personaly im going Engi/Tailoring. but im in a speedrun guild. if I was not I would go JC/Tailor and then swap JC to Engi in Phase 2.
@@jamiekaspers5769 thx for the reply, appreciate it!
I heard that players with Inscription get a 4th glyph slot but couldn't find anything online, Is this true or was I hearing wrong?
false they get a shoulder enchant that is mediocrely better than the sons of hodir one
If we have to pick a alliance race, what would be the prefered choice? The 3% spirit that effects our life tap and fel armor, or the 5% int?
it literally says in the video...
Gkicked
I Dit play A warlock back in the days, but i was really dumm Teen and could not play a warlock. I would realy like to try the Demo Lock again this time looks really fun.
What are thoughts on Nemesis talent?
For Dungeons, If you really wanna min max, you Will get to use more metas,(given that the pulls line up well, and you're not holding of.. but yeah, dungeons isnt really what matters..
For raids,
The boss fight gotta be atleast 2:35 ish to be able to get 2 metas in a fight,
And if its around 3:30-4:20, you would get 2 metas even without the talent.
Until a few days we were all expecting the wrath we are used to, but it seems Blizzard are buffing naxx, which might make this talent more useful. Because without a naxx buff, pretty much all fights are sub 2 mins
Yep it's fight dependent however nemesis does more than reducing meta cooldown
I see demon locks going with Destruction talents. Not worth it to go down affliction tree after demons?
No, your damage doesnt come from dots, dots just buff your casting abilities
Do you use felguard for all of wrath?
There are exceptions, but 99% of the time yeah.
What do you think the dps difference is between orc and human if you had to estimate? More than 3%?
Depends on the tier, substantial in T7, less so in T10
I will be looking forward to a feral cat guide 👀
can't wait to play kitty
If you were to go Engineering either due to speed running or spec swapping between affli, would JC or Tailoring be better as the 2nd profession?
Depends if we get 295SP 45sec ICD or 60 sec ICD version, or 250SP 45 ICD version..
both are completely fine. JC is easier.
changed my mind, going Tailoring, we're getting the 295SP 60 ICD version
@@jamiekaspers5769 where did you get the information from?
@@theacetrident1563 Blizzard.
@@jamiekaspers5769 With this in mind, are you going Tailoring Engi or Tailor JC? From what I hear most ppl are saying engi's QoL etc is too big to pass up even as demo, any thoughts?
Do you ever use shadowflame or hellfire in the rotation? For AoE or otherwise?
shadowflame yes, it acts as a seperate aoe cap. hellfire no, you cant use it at the same time as ur seeding. maybe you can use it at the end of a trashpack where ur seeds wont proc but thats about it
@@jamiekaspers5769 Thank you!
So are pets janky on private servers and it's believe they may be improved on classic wotlk?
Yes
Great video, one think I would be interested into, its your gear and gemming. If you can take a SS of it will be great. Thanks
during meta u can do 2 buffed coas over a flat doom (and also weakaura when to coa before meta is back up so doom doesnt ruin your meta window)
coa is a bait
if you are the only warlock in a 10 man raid with little spell casters is it better to go affli?
If your group has no ele/resto go demo,
you're fked regardless atleast this way you can buff yourself and healers
@@jamiekaspers5769 It's wotlk raiding, i think fucked might be an overkill of a word
@@SanctumRubis Fucked if you wanna have fun and do damage
Unrelated to this video, but I love your weakauras, do you have one for priest for TBC Classic on wago?
Ah I unfortunately dont, but I'm sure you could convert my druid or warrior auras on TBC into some priest ones with some work
Hey! I would LOVE to be the demo lock of our guild, but I just hate to play orc.. how much of a must is it to be an orc :(
Probably the most important class/spec combo in the game after Arcane+Troll
Race/Spec I mean
thanks for sharing Rugs, i can play Warlock now
How can you use rank-1 shadowbolt when you cannot downcast spells?
You can
affli or demono for naxx?
Speculative, demo will be better at start without tricks
That ui is sick I want it
Well the good news is you can have it! www.twitch.tv/merfin
leaving free dps on the table by not macro'ing metamorph attacks into your spells, not on a gcd.
You want to delay these attacks often. sometimes due to proccs, sometimes due to adds spawning later, etc. so yeah keep a normal keybind open for normal meta.
Demo guide waiting room , also if you know a good one or maybe you want to make one about survival Hunter , I can't find anything decent and only a few players actual manage to pull that off splendently I'm talking about Pogressive Servers #IJustWantToBeAPumper
Survival hunters aren't working properly atm, gotta wait for classic PTR to make a solid guide for them.
@@jamiekaspers5769 wild!
enjoyed le vid TY
nice guide, jamie maybe share ur felguard weakaura? 👀 5euro for merfin sub too expensive NotLikeThis
get random amazon prime from parents/friends whoever lmao and free sub ur welcome
I use merfins weakauras. lol.
No way I would drop engineering.... period.
If you're in a speedrun guild I would not drop it either.
If not, engineering is one of the weakest contributors to the demonic pact there is, and you should not be given loot prio.
"Start of video": Demo lock is really strong support => Me = interested.
1:35 "You have to NOT attack with your pet until you get all procs in and stars aligned. => Me = un-interested.. hell no.. annoying.
We made blizzard change it, pet afking is not a thing anymore currently on beta as it was never intended to be a thing in the first place so the ICD is 5 sec instead of 20 now
And Aoe ?
Is big Immolation aura + shadowflame + cleave + seed spam
@@jamiekaspers5769 What? Big immolation aura is only with metamorphis.
How do i utilize AOE dmg in for example, dungeons?
@@Astral-Projector2389 the same way but without immolation aura
content so easy why even struggle to min max, just go full haste and have fun.
Haha that's basically survivals exploit weakness, but they removed ew and added this. Wierd
Yep, only difference is one is a debuff and the other is a buff
this is the worst rotation i've ever seen in my life
Agreed