The 44 Million Attack Leapfrogger Build | Dogdog Hearthstone Battlegrounds
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These last leap vs leap fights are the battlegrounds equivalent of "my dad earns infinite amount of money" "well my dad earns 2 times infinite money!"
I use my death laser that gets through invincible sheild ahh game
Hey, thanks for editing the flashbangs to a still image of the trinket choices, appreciate it!
The 44 mmr after this monster game is the cherry on top lmao
43 min this be a long one
95% leaps
Yeah I think this is one of the longest games he has had, the vod was 52 minutes
-zenron
@@dogdogtwitchhey Zenron can you please share dog’s keyboard make/model with me? I love it’s sound.
I'm thinking Blizz needs to update the numbers system to be something like 30.6k or 306k or 1.35b
or just remove frogs...Not even murlocs reached those numbers in their peak and they got butchered...
@@thealchemist3575lol, they will in next patch
came for the frog, stayed for the dog
43 min leaper game oh no
haven't watched yet, but my thoughts exactly. im excited.
His 12/12 frog with taunt didn’t die wow
By the way, dog is 100% correct about the trinkets in the beginning. I was in love with demons and I thought Felbat trinket was just the way to go. After losing several games forcing it, I can attest 9 is too much.
I hate that people in duo love forcing it too much. No shop buffs and good trinkets to pivot/scam? Nah waste your turn to get a felbat with no drakkari or spam ping me to go for it.
He yapped too much and downplayed the value of a guaranteed felbat. Ofc you never pick it if you has no shop buffs, and have better alternatives, or/and you have an urzul or bunch of 3 drops.
Forcing most things in BGs is bad, that's not really useful information. But if you have any amount of shop scaling felbat trinket is usually pretty good, gives a good amount of tempo to just beat everyone up before they get their comps online
Hard disagree with Dog on this one. I'm obviously not at his MMR but I don't know if I've ever gone fourth or worse with felbat, and I've gotten far more firsts with it than thirds.
But that's anecdotal. He said to do the math, so here are some numbers. Comparing felbat at 9 gold to glowing gauntlet at 2, I'd only go gauntlet if the shop had multiple premium minions or mucks showing or if I already had Ur'zul. Let's look at the absolute worst case scenario for felbat: you go into turn 9 with four demons on board, you've only buffed Bob's board once, and you end the turn with a shop full of patient scouts. How much tempo does your 9 gold buy you? 33 stats. If you go with Gauntlet with no way to capitalize on those stats right away, you'd need to buy or eat three minions to do better with gauntlet. as stopping at two would be slightly worse at 32 stats.
Now, buying three isn't impossible, and you've usually got eight gold to play with after spending two for the gauntlet. But that's the absolute worst case scenario. Rarely am I going demons if I haven't buffed Bob's board more than once by turn nine, and the odds of getting all 1/1s by that point is laughably low. Far more likely I've got at least +6, which is three felblood procs, or a pair of staff spells. And looking at Dog's first board of turn 9 this game, he averaged just under 7 stats per minion. Add to that 6 from buffs and your 9 gold is buying you 78 stats spread across your five demons. You'd need to buy or eat five minions with +8/8 to beat that.
With an Ur'zul already up and running or some other extenuating circumstances you can beat it for raw tempo, but shy of that? Not happening. Nine is expensive, but when I'm forced to take gauntlet and I don't have an urzul, I'm usually desperate and spending too much trying to get an Urzul, Felbat or even an Implicator, anything to capitalize on my greater trinket. Felbat just hands it to you in one neat package. My wife has gotten it while staying on tavern three, when Ur'zul would be a distant dream.
Maybe different play patterns forced by the increased pressure by opponents and needing more than big dumb stats, but as far as I can see the math doesn't support Dog's derision.
idk felbat trinket probably is +mmr on average. More mmr more better -top 300 player
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I wish Blizzard would enable beast/dragon lobbies just for a day, to see some extreme leaper shenanigans
what you mean beast\dragon ? you can't have beasts and dragons in the same game ?
@@Youwood667 Indeed you can't. They didn't want amalgams getting permanent leapers using poet
Well... I guess we need 8 hours leapfrog video next time👀
I pretty much only feel good taking felbat portrait if I already have felblood portrait
dude your so good at this! holy cow ive never seen anything like that in my battleground games! and you did it so easily. great video definetly sub and liked keep putting out cool shit like this!
That is the most insane Frogger I have ever seen
If you have multiple felbats the board will continuously cycle minions when they get devoured giving max value to demons if you have the trinket
guy is rank 3 NA and chat still thinks they know better about felbat portrait smh
Felbat portrait is op with goldenizer and end of turn effects...The problem is that felbat portrait needs specific things and time to activate, while frogs only need a baron to save his ass, and tier 1,2,3 cards...the mamoth is not needed but good to have, all you need is frog, mana saber and baron to be effective early turns...Goldenizer or tripple baron wins the game with little investment...That's why the disparity between trinkets power...Fellbat portrait is good but needs to much to be effective, while frogs needs little and pulls numbers bigger than fellbat or perfect builded quillboars or murlocks. I built the perfect quillboar board with perfect shudo hero golden murloc trigger , normal bran, golden drakkari ( cuz i got lucky with a tavern spell) and barely reached 11 million life and ~4k attack....Which is nothing compared to this bullcr@p...The hell, the build even works with poorly drafted trinkets...If you hit baron trinket or goldenizer you won, and if not you still have a chance...While for the other to work you need to commit to demons and have a perfect match, oo and also do note that without murlocs scaling or a a trinket to buff the shop or the 7th tier minion to buff the shop, fellbat portrait is pretty much useless even with golden drakkari.
Love how Blizzard knows that leapfrogger is literally an exploit and they acknowledged it in the last patch: ''We know that leapfrogger is frustrating to play against so we removed manasaber'' xD
(Plus increasing Jar O'gems cost by ONE, they are literally trolling us)
Massive! I think thats the BEST Beast game I ever saw. Thank you dog, you are soo smart💯
Goes to 6star, buys a 2 star to win the lobby. Leaper is the best “design” in card game history 🎉
I wonder if we could make "exaudia unbeatable" frog with dragon and an all type to keep leap buff from combat then we can use undead to spread them through end of turn
Dragons and beast can't show up together because of the frog interaction
@@mrbobo180 Yep, best you can do is the pirate exodia comp with it and that isn't really broken unless you hit truly everything, like double golden baron and a lot of cruise controller/tier 4 deathrattle granting pirate whatever it's called.
9:00 "there's a dead guy I can abuse" I laugh so hard lmao
Anyone saw dog winning a 0% win chance at 4:00?
Wouldnt it be better to replace the 6 drop for manasaber? This way when the bird attacks again all frogs go to the manasaber but also manasaber is guaranteed to spawn ttaunts, so more protection for the barons
I just play this for fun sometimes never knew it is so serious, like a break from ranked
It's funny, I started a game of hearthstone while watching this vid and picked the exact trinket he said was awful and giga high rolled a 6k lobby. What a time!
leap frogger is the worst card of the game. it should go away for gameplay sakes.
3 minutes combat, 20 seconds play phase. wtf is wrong with blizzard ?
when i read 40 million attack i thought it was clickbait, but i guess not haha biggest leap frog build i've ever seen
Voone sniping the barons in the end just hurt my soul...
100% admit Dog will make better choices in almost every situation than me, but I really do not understand why he didn't grab Cry Foul after Fighting Arana, she had a few cards that really would have benefited his board, Macaw, Mount, another Baron and double raptor which sure the triple isn't a big deal but it's another shot at the mount all for 2 gold.
Be cool to see insight on this.
that's where all my barons left
rivendare can stack ?
The 2 golden titus rivendare do stack? and proc the frog more times?
the text on titus says "your deathrattles trigger an extra time/two extra times" rather than "your deathrattles trigger twice/three times" like it used to on baron so yeah they stack.
@@badnewstk Thanks bro! i didn't notice that.
The point dog is making about felbat trinket is true. it does have potential but its huge sacrifice on the turn so it just becomes more situational. somethjing being "not good" in hearthstone usually means its not reliable and too situational. it doesn't mean it does have potential to be strong. Anyone can win a battlegrounds game. The challenge is making your rate of winning higher. The reason felbat trinket isn't that good at 9 gold is because the odds of being able to put it together with its high cost and no real same turn immediate reward is lower than a lot of other strategies. He said he takes it sometimes. It's just not something you want to consider as often as you might think.
Wow the title wasn't lying
In my experience felbat trinket is purely S-tier. I won with it many times, and I lost to it many times. And the one who picks it, goes turbo ahead of everyone. Ofc, when you pick it, you are already have a massive shop (lesser +1/1 trinket for each refresh, or for units sold, etc). And ofc you have false implicator, that is the most important unit for midgame in the whole comp, you wont survive till turn 9 without it, maybe a couple of them. So, them eating 1-2 units leaves only 3-4 for felbat. But with this trinket felbat eats 7. That is DOUBLE of 3-4! Double scaling.
I don't think implicator is very good compared to the free roll or free buy demon. I usually am pretty high rated (only in the mid 6000s currently), But implicator is very seldom a card a would keep long term, and as tempo card i only find it half decent if i have trinket support. For me demons seem like a build which is ment to pivot into a counter build made for specific opponents due to a massive roll/gold advantage. This is why i prefer having a few very strong cards, and then replacing most of the others when facing opponents with far more stats (such as Leep Frogger or murlocs).
This might also just be a playstyle issue, as you end up in other situations then me
I think the reason Dog has a 15k rating and i have a lowly 7k is because he calculates the maths and takes the most likely option to win and I think "felbats are fun!" and run with it even when its not optimal :) I like a game with 2 correct yet opposed methods of play :)
i always get stuck around 7 k for the same reason. i think its boring to go with the best hero and the best build every game
Adding the trinket board overlay is such a game changer I absolutely love it The switching back and forth so you can't read the cards was so f****** annoying I hope this is for every video from now on
They’ve been like that for a long time
It's been like that since the second video of trinkets that zenron edited iirc. But he forgot to add it in yesterday's video which is why most youtube viewers are suddenly realizing its there
i feel like 2 gold barons is enough and you need the board space/spawning units at that point
leapfrog is the worst meta ever for BG, when beast is in the tavern +50% of the lobby goes for it and other minions are not used / are useless when leap comp is complete. It's overcheated.
Good morning new zealand, make sure you bring an umbrella out today it's a wet one
4th -58 is just brutal
The Felbat trinket should be 5 gold, I totally agree that 9 gold is not worth it. I only pick it if I'm already full demons and have nothing more beneficial
How do you arrange frog leaper build against cleaves?
That's why you reborn some units. You're not 100% going to have a favorable situation if you know people are playing cleaves. Also, hoping you go first and beating their initial cleave.
do barons stack now?
Yeah. Card text reads "Trigger your Deathrattles an extra time."
There is a special place in hell for people who play frogs...The devil will make you watch reruns of Dr Phil and The Kardashians for all eternity...Save your soul, don't play frogs.
i had 127 million attack lepfrog build like 2 days ago xd
noob,
"Just look at your placements" umm everytime I've had fellbat it was first or second lol however it being nine cost is a bit much.
whats the song at 4:25?
The preview really says 44MIШON 🥴
Big disagree with Dog on the felbat topic. If you have any kind of decent shop buffs going on getting that felbat early pretty much guarantees at least a fourth which at the end of the day is a win.
To be fair, from his position top4 is a straight loss as we can see in the match history. Urzul build has a much higher cap than felbats thus is more competitive for the environment Dog is in.
I feel like dog was over harsh on the felbat trinket. It gives you more units in the shop if youre rolling. You probably already have a board full of demons so you would normally miss eats especially with imp. I do agree it is only good if you have a buff shop small trinket though
I hope he's joking about the felbat trinket. Eveytime I took that i stomped the entire lobby.
this was utterly disgusting. i loved it.
2 months ago i made a 2.8 million attack dragon :o to sad i don't have a movie 😢
2x speed is necessary here.
Is the game bugged after 10 games today i had Not a Single bran drakari or rivendare in the Shop??
haha i feel you i sometimes think that too,
from the last 11 or 12 games where i played leaper and like in 7 or 8 nobody was playing a Deathrattle game and nobody even played rivendare I only found 1 Rivendare in all these games together.
Sometimes the pool is very weird I was a couple of times about to ask how many minions are in each pool and if some minions have different numbers although they are in the same tier.
Sometimes some minions dont appear in over like 10 Games which is like 500-1000 Refreshes which is very weird. And this also counts for lower Tiers
Myself I think its def. a Bug in the Randomizer.
And also I feel like Rivendare is the least to find minion in the Pool overall - thats why I stopped aiming for Deathrattle Games with Rivendare Like Beasts or Pirate Exodia - just never find the Rivendare. And you just sit there with leap and its giving +1/+1 at turn 13 rolling for like 4-6 turns only for the rivendare
Im now only playing these comps now either with the Trinket Rivendare, Denathrius Quest or with some Pivot Board where I highroll Money or With some Gallywix comp where I can roll a million times while having a board and just collect all the necessary cards and then pivot
@@Lokalgott yea, but its so annoying you get baited and forced by the trinkets to Play any Kind of this stuff, today the Same Thing :(
Would've been funny if the video was also 44 mins long
Ngl i take the felbat everytime and everytime i highroll + get first
I don't want to be the guy that says Dog is always right, *sometimes* he does some questionable decisions, but the talk about Felbat Trinket in the beginning is the reason why he's on high MMR while everyone is just bunch anons coping in the chat...
Yep, it's not the final potential, but also realizing how you get there and what pieces you need for it to work. If you don't have the setup ready, then you're fishing for a drakkari or a second felbat and until you have it, you are weaker than you would be with a different trinket
Love how they are arguing with a 15k mmr player🤦♂️lol
You not knowing what to do makes me even more confused to why you aren’t winning lmao
Random question, but could you combine leapers with the 4 drop amalgam and Poet so that the amalgam keeps the leap deathrattles and stats from combat? Anyone know if that interaction works?
Dragons and beasts are not allowed in the same lobby
dragons and beasts can't be in the same game for this exact reason.
Thank you both. Had no clue about that.
@@manythanks2 Thanks God.
Nooo one more turn xD
I watched the whole video
Me winning with my cute 500/500 leapfrogs (1v1 for FIVE turns) while I'm watching dog bully his opponents with 15 gazzillion stats froggers. All is well. Good night from EU, US.
Seriously, rolled for 5 turns, not a bird, not a titus (had 2), nothing. Still won (N'zoth + greater N'zoth trinkets, those fishes were nasty)
Leapers games are sure pleasant to watch but titus stack with this very build is not okay, like really not
18:33 why not go for the bigger taunt? Defender's Rites ... smh
Nah, i'd leap
Imagine having a unit with 30 thousand hp and still not being big enough… this game sucks lol
Goodnight Pinheiros ES
casual beast game
Goodnight eu
leapfrogger is cancer for the battlegrounds
lol wtf second -2 points
ABOBA
Cant you do phalanx poet and stack a ton of leapfrog, not on this game since no dragons but isn't that kinda nasty ?
Dragons and beasts are banned from being in the same lobby because of this interaction
@@eFRapidfire yeah, it made froggers busted. Haha.
@@eFRapidfire makes sense, but I would've like to see It atleast once
@@albertosaura9591everyone was talking about that before the patch was live and got that comp banned before anyone coupd play it.😂
I recently Played fellbat Trinket with millhouse wich actually worked pretty Good because you don’t Need to refresh the Shop. But it’s True 9 Gold is a Lot it always depends though, wuff wuff
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So damn dumb, you have goldenizer and you could just golden a whitemane. Even if it hits the T6 beast, the opponent lose a lot of stats and survivability. And you always taunt 1 titus...
I can't stand watching all these dumb decisions.
he got 15k mmr. what is yours ?
@@Tantemify around 12k
Every game I've played with felbat trinket I've gotten first but I'm also not nearly as highly rated as dog, but I will admit it's not the best
ez
Dog why do you so strong ?)
Unbelievable skillz
29:20 You are welcome
wtf
the what