DIY SEATMOVER 8 UPGRADE

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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @pch_mechanika
    @pch_mechanika 2 года назад +2

    I wonder how this style seat mover compares with SFX100 style platform (note ignoring price factor), just the feel of feedback given by seat movers with traction loss vs 4post actuator's.
    Not sure which build to start tbh, like the sx small foot print - yet that traction loss seems important

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      Nice comment Przemyslaw! I built a 3dof and you get a LOT of movement out of it on 2DOF.. I added traction loss (which is absolutely fantastic in VR). I also built the 2DOF seatmover which does work, but it's not a immersive as my 3dof. So my conclusion is that if you want a compact footprint, you need more power. That's why I am doing this video series. More Power to the People! DMAX

  • @ericmelchers750
    @ericmelchers750 2 года назад +3

    Great video. Never thought of those wheelchairs motors. Search started :D Looking forward to see them moving the rigg

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the comment. I never thought about them either till I saw someone post a build on xsimulator.net about them. So Here we go now! Dave

  • @weslewis9988
    @weslewis9988 2 года назад +2

    Great video Dave!

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад

      Thanks Wes! Gotta do something with all tools!! Dave

  • @jamescorr2942
    @jamescorr2942 2 года назад +2

    Dave, looks good. Great job. Love your tutorials. Very proud of you. Dad.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Dad! I have not fried anything lately.. Its about time to start..

  • @imaboss1998
    @imaboss1998 2 года назад +1

    Awesome Dave very thankful the dedication to this video series is unmatched

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the comment Justin! Thanks for watching my friend! Dave

  • @madeinchina10
    @madeinchina10 2 года назад +1

    looking good Mr D can't wait to see it up and running

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for taking a look Mr. Yaksnip! Yeah.. This should be great! Either that or a complete disaster.. I'll show it on tape either way! DMAX

  • @frankj3378
    @frankj3378 2 года назад +1

    Damn it Dave, you're gonna make be do this.
    (thank you!)
    😁

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      So Frank! I got it running! going to be posting a new video on May 14-15 Yeah.. 24 Volts works just fine with the IBT-2 setups.. I actually go into a lot more depth of settings on the SMC3 in real time.. Hope you tune in.. Dave

  • @johnwalker-b6j
    @johnwalker-b6j Год назад +1

    Hi Dave, Awesome videos. I have watched almost all your videos. I am currently getting all the parts needed to start my motion sim. I was wondering if the power supply was able to handle both motors or did you have to get another one? Thanks for all the videos, they are really helpful in this journey for motion.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  Год назад

      Thanks for watching the videos. I used one power supply per motor. Since the power supplies are pretty inexpensive, go that route. This was the only motion rig I built to date using 24v power supplies so I dont have a lot of information other than they moved the seat convincingly. If you were to build a full frame rig, I would consider getting larger power supplies but for a seatmover, they seemed to be able to supply enough peak power . Hope that helps and thanks for the comments. Dave

  • @BDJones055
    @BDJones055 2 года назад +1

    Dmax! I got my rig moving finally! Getting ready to do first test drive tonight. Thanks for the tips along the way. My total cost into my ultra low budget sim rig is $282.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад

      BD! That's awesome! Let me know how your first tests go! Just go slowly to start out and you can 'tune it' to max after a while! Dave

    • @BDJones055
      @BDJones055 2 года назад +1

      Yeah thats the point I'm at now. Trying to get it tuned. I made a short video if you want to see how I did mine. I give you full credit for helping me get over the finish line on this build. I'm already upgrading it! m.ruclips.net/video/FYlQZIMa28k/видео.html

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      @@BDJones055 Ok BD! I watched all your videos! and Man I am super happy for you! Yeah it's a project but I can see you are stubborn like me and just want to do whatever it takes to get that thing moving! Keep posting stuff! So VERY COOL to see it working with you actually riding it! Because that IS why we do this! Fantastic! Keep it light. Also I am going to look into those Maker motors and get some to test on the channel! Congrats! Dave

  • @nrome49
    @nrome49 2 года назад +2

    Our DIY motion sim GOD

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +2

      He Nick! Thanks.. Thought about beefing up the motors for a few weeks now.. Yep.. Now we got some beef.. We shall see how it goes! Either way, it's going to be way better! Dave 😀

  • @1980tomh
    @1980tomh 2 года назад +3

    Hello, your videos have inspired me to try and build this for my two handicap children and myself. I am stuck though and was wondering if you could help. I got all the way to the smc3 utility but I cant get the program to engage the motor. Do you have any advice. Please help

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +2

      Great idea Tom-Jacob. Yeah once it's moving Yall will love it!.. Ok.. So you have the SMC3 and it's on the correct com port? Able to move one of the potentiometers and the green line follows? Let me know, I will check this comment to see what you say.. Dave 💪

    • @1980tomh
      @1980tomh 2 года назад +1

      @@DMAX_DIY Good evening Dave, I got it working, as it turns out the Mega I was using isn't compatible with the coding. I know it was written for the Uno but I figured the syntaxes are the same hence C+ they should both work. Low and behold the Uno was the one I had to get my hands on to get it working. I know have to hook up the second motor, test it then get simtools running and try to patch it with xplane11. To be honest Dave, my son hasn't been able to walk since he was eight and my other son is Autistic but a gamer, go figure. I am currently working on getting custody of my grandson so he doesn't go to foster care and they are all really wanting me to get this up and running. I had an old premobile M300 powered wheelchair that I am converting into the motion simulator. My oldest is now 16 and a quadriplegic so my plans where to use his old chair so that I could fly it remotely while he sits in his old chair and enjoys the show. Please keep your fingers crossed that I can get this going. By the way I live just inside Alabama and I saw from xsimulator is where your from. Small world right. Sorry for the long winded response, I am very grateful that you responded, thank you. Have a good night.

    • @1980tomh
      @1980tomh 2 года назад +2

      I really need to proof read before I send messages lol. I know your close to Alabama because I am also a member of xsimultator. The funny thing is that I got chastised because I asked a question on your xsim feed 🤣. I was told I broke a rule, no biggie though. Take care

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      @@1980tomh Ok.. I have not logged into the x-sim feed for a couple days really.. That's weird.. Anyway Yeah you need to Arduino UNO.. They work perfectly for this . Xplane 11 looks to be awesome. I want to try setting up a rig for flight but I'm working out of town all the time so really only get a little time on Saturdays to mess around. You want to incorporate a few safety mechanisms into the rig you build. Emergency off switches or breakers and teach them how to use them. I am going to be going through the whole process in this series. I got my arduino in today and since I need to take off the Hall Effect Pots to anyway, I figure I will try and make the next video all about hooking everything up. (so people can see it again or new people can see how to do it) Your kids ( and grandkids - I got one too!) are going to be thrilled. Just take you time - one step at a time. I do go to Ala😀bama a lot for work so I'm always on the west side or orange beach area or up in Bham.. I'll log into xsim and take a look if anyone else asked questions. Dave

  • @brailynnematheny167
    @brailynnematheny167 2 года назад +1

    D Max taking it to the max! Adding more power 💪 Fun video as always 👍

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад

      Yeah.. Should be great next time! Thanks for your comment B!

  • @Driving_the_virtual_world
    @Driving_the_virtual_world 2 года назад +1

    finally got the time to watch this. Man, if these powerplants move your seat it may throw you out your garage if you crash 😁😁

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад

      Thanks for the comment! I hope they have enough power! Yeah.. We need MORE POWER! HAHA Dave

  • @KeremYurtsevenOfficial
    @KeremYurtsevenOfficial 2 года назад +2

    Incredible job!

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for taking a look at the video! It should be cool! DMAX 😀

  • @hippysplace
    @hippysplace 2 года назад +2

    Hey Dave great video! Could you possibly remove the transmission from that motor to reduce the size, I know you would lose some torque but it would save on space and weight?

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      Maybe after I blow something up.. haha. I know that when the motor spins, there is another part near the commutator which spins. so I will first be trying to figure out how to count the ratio.. 24:1? 50:1? I have no idea yet.. Thanks for the comment my friend! Dave

  • @jimchilvers7281
    @jimchilvers7281 2 года назад +1

    Looking forward to the next video on this 👩‍🦼🏎🍻

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      Cool Jim.. I'm working on it right now! should be out soon! Dave

    • @jimchilvers7281
      @jimchilvers7281 2 года назад +1

      @@DMAX_DIY really interested to see if that power supply will run it. Your previous videos really inspired me to build something similar to yours and I have similar motors for my 1st build but have been struggling for time to start it. Keep up the great content 🍻

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      @@jimchilvers7281 Yeah I'm interested too. One on the subscribers BD, made one FULL FRAME and it worked for him.. IDK.. I'm making the motor mounts right now so we shall see! Dave

  • @cheapskatefpv1903
    @cheapskatefpv1903 2 года назад +1

    Hi I was wondering how your ibt2 are holding up with the 3dof any issues .I'm using mm and thinking of trying the ibt2

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад

      They are fine in my 3dof rig after two years. You need to put a fan on them so I have a 120mm fan that runs. So far, no issues at all. Except I did solder all the connections between arduino and all IBT's.. Thanks for the question! DMAX

  • @Fredstli
    @Fredstli 2 года назад +1

    Hello again. Do you use any fuses in front of the BTS7960 motorcontroller. I know they are rated for 45A, but what fuse would you recomend to be on the safe side?

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      Fred, I have a 40 amp DC breaker for the main wire of the rig. The most I have seen is 26 amps from all three motors so being right around 80 percent max load is good for me. I could probably run a 30 amp but ya never know. The main thing is that I can easily access it in event of Emergency shutdown (control wise) or it would trip if amperage exceeds the limit of the breaker. I do not have individual fuses on the IBT's. Hope that helps.. Dave

    • @Fredstli
      @Fredstli 2 года назад +1

      @@DMAX_DIY Yes it did help a lot! Thanks. I understand you have good experience with BT2 so far...

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      @@Fredstli Well, They work.. I have some JRK 12V12's but have not tested them yet.. The JRK's were like 70 bucks each.. And I have to put a heatsink on them.. Anyway, yeah I found that if I solder the connections, everything is great.. If I dont and use those connector wires, Weird stuff happens due to loose connections. Other than that, You need to have a small fan blowing on them to keep them cool.. Dave

    • @dennisjohnson1893
      @dennisjohnson1893 2 года назад +2

      Fred, I fused all my 3 motor connections with 20A fuses. I have blown a few of them. This comes from getting the motor tabs in a hard, almost out of reach position. If you over-force the motors the amps will surge and can burn out your wiring, I actually started my first wiring board on fire in the garage. So, you do need to watch it carefully when setting it up. Also take consideration an empty seat vs a full 200 pound person sitting in it. You might need to scale back your limits so the motors don't have to drive so hard.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад

      @@dennisjohnson1893 Great Tip Dennis! BTW have you ever done an amp clamp reading to see what your pulling? I'm going to try and use the Amp clamp on the next couple videos just to see what's actually going on Cheers Dave

  • @cai_7748
    @cai_7748 2 года назад +1

    Hello, would you pass me the link of the motors that you put in the simulator, why did I have the same problem, my 12v motors do not have enough power, thanks and best regards.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад

      Yeah this has been a weird issue since the Pandemic.. But good news.. I just bought 3 extra 12v 50:1 motors from the supplier on EBAY in Canada.. Sometimes they have them.. sometimes they dont.. price went up about $20 each but oh well.. They say they have 94 of these left.. They are pretty dang good motors. I run them off a 12v battery .. here is the link.. www.ebay.com/itm/354052076387
      SO for the 24v wheelchair motors, I also got them off Ebay.. I just searched for Jazzy WheelChair motors.. These parts come and go all the time on the Ebay site so cant really send a link.. And I have yet to fully test them.. I have them working and moving the 2DOF but need to crank it up a bit in the next video. SO you could go either way 12V or 24 V.. My channel is kind of experimental.. Seeing what works and what doesnt.

  • @nicki9knuckles
    @nicki9knuckles 2 года назад +1

    Hey Dave, how do these motor compare to the crab pot motors? They are a lot cheaper but are they less powerful?

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      They are cheaper Nick.. they seem powerful enough for a 2DOF seatmover. but I'm sticking with the crab pot pullers on the new compact 3dof build I am doing. Mainly I wanted to test the 24v wheelchair motors using AC to DC converters and yes they do work..

    • @nicki9knuckles
      @nicki9knuckles 2 года назад

      Awesome! Do you plan to use a ac to dc converter on the new 3dof build as well?

    • @GeeCeeAte
      @GeeCeeAte 2 года назад +2

      I was reading up and most of those crab pot pullers use jiffy motors. So they might be the same motors and it just comes down to the gearbox

    • @GeeCeeAte
      @GeeCeeAte 2 года назад +1

      *jazzy

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад

      @@GeeCeeAte Yep.. JAzzy motors now I'm working on a 3dof compact rig using 12 v but going to be 'plug in' the wall hopefully..

  • @fachengchin541
    @fachengchin541 2 года назад +1

    Between a 60V_600watts_180rpm versus a low volt low rpm = 24v_600watts_45rpm, seems this 45rpm has more torque, which is better?

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад

      Thanks for the comment. So it's not all about torque either, response speed is super important.. I'm going to be running some tests but I may never get to use a 60volt motor so If you get one, let me know how it goes. You could post the question on the x-simulator.net forum.. They could probably give a more specific answer! DMAX

  • @SingleRacerSVR
    @SingleRacerSVR 2 года назад +2

    Awesome D Max - pity I can't upgrade the SingleRacer Channel - I think it needs it badly, hahahaha [:]-)

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      SR! Thanks for taking a look my friend! You already got VR and you are quicker than me on the track for sure.. (I probably spend too much time building stuff - but I absolutely dig it !) Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching.. I appreciate it Michael! Dave 😀💪

  • @dennisjohnson1893
    @dennisjohnson1893 2 года назад +1

    Hey Dave, you did the same thing as me. I just got my 24V 30A power supply this week. I hooked it up to the wheelchair motors. The first thing I noticed is when the motors go aggressive, the power supply spikes and then cuts out for about 3 seconds. I'm thinking that there is a internal protection fuse that is kicking in. How did yours turn out? Any problems?

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад

      I have not been home to test them out.. I will this weekend.. So, if I do run into that issue, I will place a copule 12 volt smaller batteries in series and they should be able to handle the spikes. Really, I want to get the Amp clamp on and see what the motors do Till then! Dave

    • @dennisjohnson1893
      @dennisjohnson1893 2 года назад +1

      @@DMAX_DIY Yup! I went to the junkyard today and bought a second 12V battery wired them in series, Works Great! My 3rd yaw motor is 12V, So I connect that in between the batteries taking a 12V line. I actually had to turn down the motion percent in Simtools. I was afraid it was so violent the chair was going to break. I'm going to return the power supply. Way too expensive for independent power supplies for each motor. Two batteries is the way to go! Let me know how yours turns out.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад

      @@dennisjohnson1893 Yeah.. I tried to make it simple on my 3dof rig. 850 CC amp battery. The motors were 12 Volt so just one battery and all three motors connected. The battery or batteries have so much available amps that I have never seen a spike that it cant handle. I'm going to connect up the 24v motors tomorrow hopefully and see what's up (AMP Wise) Glad to hear from you.. Keep pluggin away! And post a video if you ever have a chance.. Love to see the build on x sim page or on YT>> Dave

  • @NKGaming_Live
    @NKGaming_Live 2 года назад +1

    I found the same motor but have a plug of conector of 4 pins? What i have to do? Is that normal?

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      Hello Natanael.. Good question.. From what I've read, the other two are for braking from the wheelchair hand lever.. You wont need to use those.. Just two of the wires which power the motor.. The arduino and IBT will take care of braking.. Dave

    • @NKGaming_Live
      @NKGaming_Live 2 года назад

      Ok perfect what model is your motor? To see if we have the same motor

  • @cai_7748
    @cai_7748 2 года назад +1

    Hello, would you pass me the link of the motors that you put in the simulator, why did I have the same problem, my 12v motors do not have enough power, thanks and best regards.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      the 24 volt motors I just searched on EBAY.. so no real link but they have a lot of them JAZZY wheelchair motors.. The 12 volt 50:1 motors I also got on Ebay and there is a seller for those as I have bought several over the last three years.. I'll put up the link here www.ebay.com/itm/354052076387

    • @cai_7748
      @cai_7748 2 года назад +1

      @@DMAX_DIY thank you for your answer, you are very kind, hug from Argentina 🤗

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад

      @@cai_7748 Just tryin to help out .. Aprreciate the comments my friend!

  • @dgator7251
    @dgator7251 2 года назад +2

    Can the IBT2 do 24v?

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      Yes, absolutely and up to 42 amps.. I have not ever had them on 24V and the max I have run is 27 amps so like I said before *experimental science* The Specs of the IBT-2 say " the supply voltage 5.5V to 27V." so We will see what happens and hope no 'smoke' comes out ! Here's a link to them.. Dave 💪 www.amazon.com/HiLetgo-BTS7960-Driver-Arduino-Current/dp/B00WSN98DC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=CC5HY2E3KZPG&keywords=ibt-2+h-bridge&qid=1643674072&sprefix=ibt-2+h%2Caps%2C115&sr=8-1

    • @dgator7251
      @dgator7251 2 года назад +2

      Excellent! Those are the exact ones I have and I am in need of a new (stronger)TL motor. Been looking at the truck tarp motors as a possibility too.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +2

      @@dgator7251 Yeah.. I looked at those dump truck tarp motors too.. Let me give these a shot and see what happens with them before you get any.. stay tuned my friend!

    • @dgator7251
      @dgator7251 2 года назад +2

      @@DMAX_DIY Looking forward to it as always, thanks!!

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад

      @@dgator7251 Ok.. so I got a new video coming out on May 14-15 I'm going over all the settings with the motors in real time.. It's pretty cool hope you tune in.. Dave

  • @henryjames3580
    @henryjames3580 2 года назад +1

    They didn't give me any bolts or keyways

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад

      That sucks Henry.. Well.. If that were me.. I would try and find some metal that's close to fitting and grind it down to make the keyways.. Bolts are pretty easy to find at the local hardware store. I'm actually surprised I got pretty much all the stuff to mount my motors up.. Also.. If you have a welder.. (and are in it for the LONG GAME *not reselling the motors* just weld the levers on.. That's what I ended up doing on my 3DOF rig.. I kept shearing off the pins that held the levers to the motors so I said.. whatever.. and welded them on.. (being careful to cool the metal down between tacks)

  • @ARTFLY
    @ARTFLY 2 года назад +2

    I think you will fry this psu buddy 🤙😳👻

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +2

      Maybe.. But you gotta try to find out.. The load seems appropriate so far.. It's the transitional load *hard braking to full accel* that may be an issue. I will have the AMP CLAMP on to see whats what because I need to know .. If it does fry, then I will simply get a bigger one or mid circuit batteries to handle the spikes. Either way.. It's ' ON " now... we will find out! Dave 😬💪

    • @ARTFLY
      @ARTFLY 2 года назад +2

      @@DMAX_DIY I am sure you will find the right way! Keeping my fingers crossed for you as always 😉
      BTW. I did a little re-upload which is totally off topic 😳 but I wanted to get anything fun up for you ....

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 года назад +1

      @@ARTFLY Took a look at your video.. Nice.. I did that too with my little ones! And my Dad did too! All Good stuff!