Talking About Sony vs. Nintendo Handhelds with Jon Cartwright
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
- Scott sits down with Jon Cartwright to talk about Sony and Nintendo handhelds and how they stack up against each other.
Jon Cartwright of Good Vibes Gaming: @GVG
This video was originally released via Card #02 of the Scott The Woz Collectible Trading Cards in late 2022.
Edited by Scott Wozniak
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I honestly like this channel more now than the main channel.
Fr, I love his main videos obviously but man idk why but it feels a bit strange when he actually uploads on the main channel and he sounds like a different person, he's more of a character in those lol
@@smugcat723thats the point dog… he’s playing a persona similar to JonTron or AVGN
No you don’t you just like it more because it uploads more
@@gebii- I know that lmao, just stating that he's growing into a better creator where he can branch out into new content which is more personal. I also enjoy James Rolfe's Cinemassacre content.
I can’t really watch his main channel videos honestly it’s too fast and scripted to me
Jon is one of those people that I fail to believe even had to go through puberty
The idea of kid Jon with a normal kid voice is genuinely terrifying
As someone who's voice barely changed during puberty (I'm a tenor), there was always a kid who's voice change was terrifying.
Is it more terrifying than kid Jon with his normal voice?
You can tell he purposefully tries to lower it beyond what is normal. Like Jason Momoa.
It feels weirder because he is so much younger than me, and i think that he is younger than Scott.
Of course Scott came prepared with a big ass stack of games. I would expect nothing less
you should see him at baby showers...
The comment about Liberty City Stories only selling 8 million really does strike the heart of why Sony's consoles in general kind of struggle to be remembered compared to Nintendo culturally. You can see it in other places to. The Gamecube sold like one-seventh of the PS2, but Melee sold 7 million units while San Andreas, the best selling PS2 game, sold 17 million; only 2.5 times. This gets mentioned a lot whenever Scott brings up the N64 vs PS1 too. People play Nintendo games on Nintendo consoles, people play all sorts of games on Sony's consoles. I for one have never owned Liberty City Stories or San Andreas for example. My PSP experience was primarily Monster Hunter Freedom 2/Unite, Castlevania Dracula X Chronicles, Mega Man Powered Up, and Yggdra Union. My PS2 experience as a child was some James Bond games, Sonic Heroes, Zone of the Enders 2nd Runner, Star Ocean Till the End of Time, Kingdom Hearts, God Hand, Persona 3, and the first Jak and Daxter. I'm sure most other PSP and PS2 owners did not play all of those same games, they maybe played 1 or 2 and then had entirely different stuff.
lol 😅
vita sold around 17-18 million and persona 4 golden on the vita sold about 10 million
i'm not sure about the numbers but they are close enough, more than 50% of vita owners had a copy of p4g
@@bhuvan1036I'm sorry to inform you that p4g on vita sold about 1.5 - 2 million copies. The entire persona 4 series (the p4 spin offs ect.) has sold about 10 million copies on all consoles combined.
@@snesiocat4033 ahh i see, my bad XD
I agree, nintendo consoles have less variety on what people tend to play there (specially fro n64 to wii u). What i always loved from sony consoles (ps1, 2, 3 and psp) was the sheer variety of games. Sports, RPGs, shooters, anime games, they had everything.
Btw, consoles that sold badly tend to have giant numbers of attach rate in its games.
Fun fact: Resistance Burning Skies had a way harder name in Japanese. Resistance: America's Last Stand
Scott really is going all out of the collabs, and I respect that because these are good collabs.
glad you caught up with the rest of us. i don’t mean this as a slight to jon, but he’s just the tip of the iceberg
scott’s been collabing with some out-of-the-box creators for years at this point. jacksfilms, schaffrillas, and alpharad just to name a few
Didn't realize this was one of the card videos until "The Upcoming Switch Sports"
I checked the description when they remarked that Sony ~might~ be better poised to make a handheld again (surely the portal thing would have been addressed)
jon and scott is an obvious collab but i was hella surprised to see this
Scott has been on Jon's music guessing game
Scott and Jon were on an episode of Arlocast a few years ago too.
Jon nailed it. And damn I'm eternally jealous of his warm voice. Someone hire that dude for future handheld marketing. He understands the target audience in a way that the major marketing executives just can't even grasp.
Never expected this collab! I’m all for it!
I know right? I was like oh shit it’s Jon
i love scott for not doing the cinimassacre technique and uploading all these vids on the same channel. everything is organized af :3 u always know what ur getting.
Sony VS Nintendo handhelds is the most one sided battle since Australia VS Emus.
Yeah and it's a shame because the PSP was awesome with an amazing library and they just couldn't follow it up
Or the UK vs Iceland during the Cod Wars.
@@dopey473 to be fair the PSP did absolutely amazing still. Hell it sold more than even the 3DS ended up selling
The PSP was amazing, would say that it's better than both DS's.
In terms of what? Nintendo wins when it comes to sales but its far less obvious when it comes to games.
There are a tonne of great games on the Sony handhelds (God of War, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid (except 3), Killzone, WipeOut, Uncharted, Tomb Raider, many sports games etc) that have no equivalents on Nintedo handhelds.
I had a DS and PSP back then, but I think I spent more hours on the PSP (that's still a ton on both). Playing mostly Japanese games. Patapon, crash, MegaMan, Tekken, final fantasy, monster hunter, and a bunch of anime games i forgot about. Then later, Hatsune Miku and stuff. It was also my main way to watch anime and movies at the time. It was so cool before Smartphones came.
My only complaint is that it feels like the PSP didn't have that much to call its own or stand out to a large crowd. A lot of times it was "the PSP version" in many occasions, and games like Patapon feel like they went under the radar.
While I spent more time on PSP, i had more fun and fonder memories with games on the DS. It has a lot of bangers that I've still yet to play, and the majority feel like they were made for the DS specifically, so they really stand out.
I always felt like the Sony handhelds never got as much love compared to the Nintendo ones, but them having a presence in that space was a good thing. Who else was even making handhelds to competite with Nintendo back then? People still go crazy over the Vita to this day and how Sony fumbled it.
Sony also stopped giving a shit about many of their older IPs. Jak and Daxter? Syphon Filter? Socom? Resistance? Those were all present on the PSP, and they are forgotten now. The only one left is like God of War and Ratchet. That's it.
If Sony stuck with the live service manta a Resistance skinned Helldivers or Tarkov makes sense as well as any type of modern shooter with Socom, but rainbow six siege sort of dominates where that game would perfectly fit in.
If these 2 made a podcast together it'd be the best sleepy podcast in existence, this is so relaxing
i mean vitas big issue that really hurt it was the dang sony type memory cards they used that cost a arm and a leg, if they just used normal sd cards it would of helped alot
That was definitely the biggest issue. Some other “dishonorable mentions” would also be lack of advertisement, less name recognition (should’ve just been called “PSP2” if you ask me,) and very little Western support (though that last one only happened BECAUSE it failed so idk)
The console itself also cost as much as a PS3 too
Biggest issue was losing monster hunter to the 3DS.
smartphones were also on the rise... that entire generation sold way less consoles overall than the PS360WiiDSPSP generation
Two of my favourite people in the industry, hands down. Love whenever they’re in a video together.
I remember sitting on the bus and seeing a kid playing GTA on his PSP and I was blown away. I thought it was the coolest shit ever
The PSVita really deserves better.
Being digital only sealed its doomed fate
@@jarrettbellboy it wasn't though, the vita used cartridges. Some releases like indie games were digital only through the store, but I have a fat stack of vita games sitting on my shelf right now
@@jarrettbellboy wdym? Ps vita has cartridges, psp go is the one that's all digital.
@@Nando2627 sorry, I meant backwards compatibility, not digital only
@@jarrettbellboy It is though, you can play PSP and PS1 games lol...
To me what feels different between the two is that the Nintendo consoles felt like they had more focus than Sony’s handhelds. Series like Kirby, Mario, and especially Pokémon consistently got new main releases while Zelda got many “side” games that weren’t as important as the console games but still important to the series. I haven’t heard many people talk about the PSP or Vita games unless it’s a game that has a much more popular version on modern consoles like MGS Peace Walker or Persona 4 Golden.
Plus with the games using the dual screens, it makes every game more tied to the DS and 3DS because every re release of them have find ways to make those work on one screen. While with PSP and Vita games they aren’t really tied to the system they were on,
That’s exactly what they say in the video. Not really bringing any new insight here
@@mmarshfairc3 i wrote this comment before i watched the video tbh…
@@Magic_Ice Insane lol. Why even? This is why I use a browser extension that hides comments on all videos. Totally meaningless ,. Don’t waste your life writing pointless comments under a video online. Just like I’ve wasted too much time reading and responding to them.
@@mmarshfairc3 genuinely if you are using an extension to hide comments then why are you responding to this one lol.
And I comment because i want to get my opinion out on the topic. Sure it might not get any likes or might be “pointless,” but I like writing. And I like seeing what other people have to say on the topic. And I like rediscovering comments I made on videos months or years after and seeing if my thoughts have changed.
Bunch of goofballs in these replies lmaoo
Maaan the PSP carried me through high school, so many movies with maybe 10 songs
5:55, yes Scott, I really do think the reason you think that it's because of how Nintendo centric you are, because ever since my PSP broke in 2020 I've missed it dearly.
I think this was recorded a while ago Jon was talked about switch sports as a upcoming game
I was like wait what when I heard that lol it says in description it was originally recorded 2 years ago and released through the trading cards he sold couple of years ago
I think he even says the upcoming steam deck
The PSP introduced me to imports and for that I will always love it.
The Japanese library for the PSP is amazing.
PSP was a JRPG fan's wet dream. It's the reason RPGs are my favorite game genre between being exposed to series like Final Fantasy, Star Ocean and Persona
@@icedcapplord710
I got SD Gundam G Generation Portable as my first ever import and at the time it absolutely blew my mind.
I had no idea that Gundam had an entire SD line, the only SD Gundams I knew about were from the terrible kids show and a SRPG with SD versions of every Gundam show that I knew about was the greatest thing ever to me(even if Portable is an inferior port of a PS1 game).
Once I discovered that the main Super Robot Wars games had SD Gundams too I was regularly importing PSP games and the PSP became my favorite system ever until the Switch.
Lol - its so funny hearing you talking about being a kid growing up with these devices. I grew up with arcade pong and text games like Zork....my first console was the original XB at launch and for handhelds I got the GBA SP at launch. I'm definitely late to the game for handhelds and home consoles. I was just born too early. I am still an avid gamer in my 60's and love my handhelds - still playing on DSi/3DS and Vita mostly though I do have an assortment of Anbernic and Retroid devicdes. I may have started late but I have bought every handheld and home console from the major player since. Enjoyed the video. I really did play the heck out of my PSP though now I play PSP games on my modded Vita.
Grand turismo on the psp was incredible at the time
I remember when I first saw the DS, I was in elementary school and the kid next to me on the bus was playing Mario kart DS. I couldn’t believe how good the graphics were and how it was 3D. Then another kid had a PSP with some racing game and it looked insane. I was the loser playing the GBA SP.
CFW PSP was my everyday console, I used it for movie anime game web browsing and also a PC controller. best 100 bucks I ever spent.
I hope the switch 2 goes back to offering basic things like: Netflix, being able to buy retro games easily, not just games offered on switch online.
PSP is Goat. One of the best consoles ever made and was way ahead of its time.
Both the psp and vita were way ahead of their time.
Except vita flopped because they forgot to make games for it
"Sega did [the Power Stone Collection.]"
Dammit, Jon! I thought you knew better...
great video i watched till the end
Impossible
How? Your comment was made 20 minutes ago, the video released 21 minutes ago and is 51 minutes long.
Liar, liar, pants on fire.
I mean, he could do a x2
Another banging collab!!!!
Nice watching scott discuss gaming and their experiences with these two systems with an adult.
Please do more collabs with Jon, he’s so chill yall go great together
Jon has one of the best youtube voices, love that man. Desert Island I would go psp, you could also load up nes, snes, gba games onto it as well as having the psp library.
Really wish these two dudes just had a weekly podcast that I could listen to every single week.
OMG YES I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THE JON AND WOZ CROSSOVER AGAIN
It really dawned on me as Switch started getting stuff like Persona and Katamari that it felt like Nintendo finally accomplished what Sony wanted to do with platforms like PSP and Vita. I loved my PSP 3000 to death especially since it unlocked my Persona 3 Portable obsession but it feels like Sony was always a step away from properly creating a platform that allowed both the more casual games and the hardcore stuff like your RPGs and action games to meaningfully co-exist without one clearly taking priority over another. Switch ironically is the Vita perfected to me because now it has the smaller indie titles, mid-tier stuff and big budget genre games I feel like Sony had at various points of a handheld's life but never together in the same timeframe. Vita really picked up with indies and smaller Japanese games but that was only after Sony gave up on it and stopped supporting it with first-party titles, causing third-parties to pull out despite successes like Danganronpa and Persona 4.
I love the Scott's mustache page
Each of these portable consoles were aiming at different audiences and genres. Back in 2005 I let my oldest son pick if he wanted the original DS or PSP. He chose the DS because he was 7 at the time and he loved all the mario games. For myself I got a PSP because the more high resolution games like Final Fantasy 1 and 2 were there and I just like the style. The PSP was also more expensive as a console along with more expensive games compared to the DS.
DS > PSP for sure but if I could only have one console on a desert island I’d choose PSP. PSP library + a good selection of PS1 games like re, persona, silent hill, sotn + Japanese exclusives like Danganronpa and Legends of Heroes
Monster Hunter Freedom Unite alone would probably give me at least 500hrs of play time on the PSP lol.
Which is why PSVita losing MH to the 3DS must've been such a huge blow. 3DS even got a mainline MH title with MH4
Both the psp and the ds are rlly good
Scott's Stash, You're the best! I subscribed because I love your content!
Bot ahh comment
Imagine calling scott by scott's stash lol Almost like they know only this channel.
Thanks Scott for talking more about the Vita
😱 a dream collab?! AND they’re talking about handhelds 😭😭😭
We’re starting the week off nice !
The psp not being region locked like Nintendo was also amazing
Neither the DS nor PSP are region locked. The DSi is though
@@AuntieAliasingIs that just for downloadable software, or physical games as well? If the latter, HOW?
Nintendo DS was region free
I was starting college when these handhelds were launched, I was all grown up and I bought the PSP first before I got the DS. And I enjoyed the PSP more in college, not only for its 3D games were better, but it felt like the device was more versatile, it had music and video playback, and mostly playing full length movies on the go! I remember getting UMDs for really cheap at Walmart and even Blockbuster was selling them for $10! I’ve played the PSP almost everyday as a college student. I got the DS lite when Mario Party DS came out because of my friends and cousins wanted to do multiplayer modes.
PSP honestly the games felt more like watered down versions of the ps3 games, Nintendo ds games felt more unique due to the touch screen and dual screens
@@onlywiigame. I’ve known that back then, PSP games was meant to be for playing 3D games on the go, to help bridge the gap between Game Boy Advance games and AAA console games!
@@onlywiigame. some of the highest selling games for the DS were either math problems or didn;t use the touch screen
I was studying game design when the PSP came out and our school had PSP dev kits. As a designer I didn't really get into the hardware but acording to the programers and artists who where way more limited by the systems restrictions it was way weaker than most people realised. It's insanely impressive how developers could get so much out of it. On a personal level I was team DS.
I love when British Scott Wozniak and American Jon Cartwright get to sit down and chat
Two juggernauts! Excited to watch this.
Nice duo!
The psp introduced Danganronpa so it’s the best handheld
My biggest problem with a PSP game was always if it sucked I'd be like "well what did I expect it's a portable game." But if it was good it would be like "Wow this is good, it would be better on the PS2 though..."
Wasn’t sure who this was at first then I heard the voice and I instantly recognised the smooth relaxing voice
Ugh. I could listen to Jon read me ingredients on food labels his voice is soooo smooth. What a treasure! Good vid Scott. 🥰💪👊
I LOVED my psp. I got this over the ds because of the music player and played movies. My favorite game was ridge racer. I played that game for hours!! Loved gta and daxter. Unfortunately it didn’t have many games I was excited about as a kid. Then I got an iPod and then a ds. So it became useless
omg this video so good!!!!!!!!1 loved it
I absolutely LOVED metal gear solid peace walker on the psp. I think its one of the most successful and novel transitions of a consol game to a mobile game. it and portable ops had some amazing ideas with its fulton system of recruitment and short bite sized levels. yah the face button aiming wasnt the best, thats the worst part. but its specific lrger picture experience was really something that fit the psp so well in a way that you cant really appreciate on the consule releases. all the side missions seem like a slog for a full sit down and play static gaming style. but as something to work on and always have a next thing to do between classes or on a road trip, or while waiting for something and board was really great. a kind of experience not really got on a non on the go gaming system.
PSP is my favourite console of all time. I was pretty busy with uni and working back then, so the bite sized gaming sessions were perfect. That being said, I actually primarily used it as an MP3 player.
PS2 and multiplayer in my pocket. What an absolute legendary machine.
It was really neat that the PSP had a cable you could buy that allowed it to connect to your tv, making it much easier to stream if you wanted to do that.
COLLAB OF THE CENTURY WHOOOOO LETS GOOOO
That gravity rush bg music. Noice.
honestly i think it would be fun in general to discuss video game topics with scott, i would like to participate in one if i could haha
two goats of video game youtube having a chat
It’s cool to see handhelds getting a new boom in current times. I love my SteamDeck and switch
I had a DS close to release and then a few years later I won a PSP with one of the nba2k games from radio disney. while i loved my psp, the ds got so much more playtime
we NEED a Scott and Dunky video
I can't imagine picking the ds over the psp, the psp Library is so diverse
These two really should do their own podcast together
I only had a PSP Street Go as a kid. No UMD slot and no wifi, so it couldn't play any games but it was fun to hold at least.
I had a psp and I loved it, mostly after modding and seeing all the stuff it could do.
Now that PSP is one of the easiest 3d consoles to emulate I think more people are discovering that its library actually is worth looking into. A lot of stuff was ps2/ps3 ports, but there's a lot of great original games too, I know someone who's favorite game is Gurumin on psp.
Easy choice the wonderswan wins
Hey, let’s not count the NeoGeo Pocket Color out just yet.
Who else is looking forward to the video collab like this one with RGT85?
50 minute scott video with nintendo DS in thumbnail im in heaven
I bought a 'Blaze Taito Super Pocket' as an investment in regards to playing Saturn and Dreamcast games. The games currently available for the Evercade platform aren't that desirable to play, but I think by purchasing the hardware will help fund the more desired carts in the future.
They just opened preorders for the Alpha cabinet when they knew they should have released a Street Fighter and Megaman cart, so I assume they took a loss on all those initial carts and are trying to recover. Duke Nukem and Tomb Raider for the PS1 was the first step in the right direction, so now it boils down to how many games they can fit on a single cart...
Piracy killed the PSP and I was involved in it.
How does it feel being involved in console murder
Portal says hi and selling well 😂
it sold more games and consoles than the 3DS.... how did it kill it?
I still play my PSP and it still impresses me😊😊😊
❗️My Timestamps:
1:06 I never had a PSP until I got a black 1003 model in January 2018.
I did have fun with it and bought many VERY CHEAP CIB games off E-Bay but once I had played/completed said games, realised there was no real replayability and sold it where I moved onto a black/teal New 2DS:XL*.
*I would later play 'Super Mario 3D Land', realise I'm missing out on the 3D aspect and buy a dark blue New 3DS:XL and sell the N2DS:XL.
37:02 Sony never addressed the battery life or the price or the Official Memory Sticks.
I like knowing that Scott’s on Logic Pro
Scott says this like i feel nostalgia for anything let alone pokemon
I had a PSP and DS. I had like 2 games on my PSP. Sonic Rivals and Midnight Club. I got and played lots of demos. But mostly I remember loading music and movies to my PSP using it as an MP3 and MP4 player.
The DS and GBA I had way more games for with many being some of my all time favourites
Jon is the best! Just a wonderful guy with a great passion & knowledge for video games, very relaxing voiced to listen to as well. NintendoLife is absolutely nothing without him!
Jon, I love your voice. I could listen to it all day. I want to hear a another name that song challenge podcast please.
I feel like Scott talked through 90% of this
I feel like most interviews he does this is the case. Unfortunate
i think the era of handhelds might be coming up again
especially because it seems like the other competitors are looking into making handhelds too and if thats the case more games are going to be designed for mobile consoles first
another little mentioned but super unique psp series was patapon, which was a rhythm… squad rpg battler? you basicly controlled a squad of tribal creatures going on hunts and wars through a drum that signalled them to advance, retreat, attack, and other commands to a beat. and it had a lot of charm to it while also making you feel like a bad ass god of your people.
Sony Ericsson Xperia Play master race!!! I still use mine, such a great lil system.
I love Jon!
"Hello lovely people, Jon here from Nintendo Life..."
PSP gave me my first proper fighting game experience. Bought a used PSP with a few games and one of those was Darkstalkers Chronicles. I fell in love with it, if it wasn’t for that game I wouldn’t be interested in what I am now.
I got the PSP for Daxter, but also love Ratchet and Clank Size Matters, Ape Escape OTL and Gurumin. So good 😅
Having both the DS and PSP, the PSP was my most used handheld for some time.
I had a pretty decent library of movies and games built up. It was crazy to watch movies on the go at the time.
I still used my DS. But it wasn’t as cool as the PSP for me for the first year and a half of its release.
if Sony wasn't so anti-consumer, yeah the Vita being this high-powered Treasure Trove of Japan's games & several movies in Physical format so they can't get delisted from your collection could absolutely thrive in today's market
Did you not mention the AV cable for the PSP??? I was doing a chore while watching this, so I might've missed it.
I think for me, Star Wars: Battlefront Renegade Squadron and Elite Squadron were the games that for me was like "oh this is something special" on the PSP. It's interesting how you can draw a straight line from Steam Deck/PC Handhelds --> Switch --> PSP
Handheld gaming has changed so much from being these compromised experiences to now being something close to if not exactly the same as what you'd get on PC or a home console. That really traces back to the PSP (and I guess by extension the Gameboy)
I honestly love the PSP. I got mine in like 2010 and had to repair it multiple times and had it still functioning and played it until I lost it for good in 2021
Scott talked for so long uninterrupted I forgot John was even in it.
Basically, I think the main problem with the PSP is that it just didn't have a killer app to call it its own and that everyone was fond of.
Back then in 2008, I was very detached from gaming news, so I could go for either a PSP or DS, and everyone around me wouldn't shut up about PSP, and how it had a camera add-on, so I ended getting a PSP, no camera, though
To be honest, really happy with that decision. Took some teats of mediocre gaming, but I eventually molded the system and now it's an all-in-one kind of system that it's still up and running
“The upcoming switch sports”.
Scott if you see this, can you stamp when these conversations are from in the title?