i do think the XM was the logical choice between the two if the were gonna put a 4 cylinder in the i16. But if the could maybe put an inline 6 or v8 in it, I think there would be a huge market for it.
The XM is the ugliest of all the ugly BMW's of the last decade. Everyone at BMW Styling needs to be fired and all the stylists that retired since 1990 rehired.
I remember watching a video from SB back in 2020 I believe. And she asked something along the lines of “Mercedes has the GT, where’s the competition from BMW?” And the spokesperson for BMW in that video told her something like “they’re cooking something up.” And then they released the XM and I was so confused. Seeing this it suddenly makes sense.
@@jeromep3182 I won’t get rid of my e90 coupe. From styling, to all hydraulic steering, that solid in line 6, the Bangle designs are what brought bmw to the modern age at that time. Now bmw verges on the “Chinese market” consumer with the over the top design and kitschy tech. However, if I had to rid of my e90 I’ll probably go i5 whenever she ever kicks the bucket.
This is what happens when you let the accountants rule you, the customers are impressed by what the engineers do, not by the numbers the accountants and analyst what-have-you's come up with. Those guys are just there to ensure that the engineers keep doing what they love.
The head designer said that the prototype for this car was so close to production that it already took in consideration part sharing to reduce cost and mentioned as an example, the fact that the tail lights are taken off the X6
The thing about the XM is it may have bold styling, but as a product, it's utterly forgettable. People care more about the M2 all day, every day. And if BMW proceeded to release that supercar, it would've had to be called, M1, and it would've needed a PHEV or HEV inline 6. Enough ppl would spend 200k for that.
@@xelaander8429 Apple meet orange. See, this is what happens when pure numbers are compared divorced of any context. The GT3 RS is a *stripped-down high downforce RACE car* that can legally be driven on the street. It has one of the lowest times of any production vehicle on the Nurburgring. It was made for the track first and foremost. The i16 wasn't intended to be a racecar or even taken to the track as its primary role. It would have been a two-seat hybrid GT car and technological showcase. It would make much more sense to compare it to standard 911 or the turbo version not the RS.
I love the XM .. I've seen many in Orlando.. all black is a must imo .. its sound and interior is amazing.. shame the m5 doesn't come stock with the sound of the XM
Agreed, instead of black I’d go for like green, blue, or white, but yeah the XM looks great imo I see what you mean though with all black, especially with the illuminated kidneys
Knowing how popular Hyundais vision N 74 concept was this design by BMW would’ve been super popular. I think the design alone combined with a good interior would’ve justified the price. They could also play into their WEC racing platform to get some more performance
Imo, The scraped M16 (if that's what it's called) looks great in the front - 9/10 If the back would be from this 6:43, it woukd be also a strong - 9/10
I don’t understand why BMW is known as the drivers brand out of the German trinity - Yet they are the only one that never had a supercar. Such a lost opportunity.
The XM doesn’t even properly fit into BMW’s lineup, aka why they’ve gone terribly, knowing they killed off a car for a segment they almost never touch and it was nearly finished is baffling.
BMW is facing some real internal demons right now, and need to get their act together before they get gutted into a soulless appliance maker like jaguar and Mercedes.
Well, that’s what they get for selling out for the money because no one’s gonna buy the XM like they thought and the brand will continue to deteriorate
V8 hybrid or V12 hybrid would have been the move. Flat plane crank and some steering feel would have made new fans of the brand. But no.... Gotta go SUV because money. It's like they forgot they were supposed to be making the ultimate driving machine
Everyone complains about the XM, imo it’s a cool car. Compared to the nonsense Mercedes G for example, a driving garage door… but people still buy it 😅🤷🏽♂️
i wish bmw would do a mid engine v8 hybrid instead. sadly for that price this would sit next to the new nsx. same price not selling and quickly cancelled. buyers over 150k dont want a 3 or 4 cylinder hybrid.
The XM was a completely failure I’ve only seen 3 of them on road near Miami. It is just a 6000 pounds X5M with a hybrid that is not even faster then a X5M.
You mean they deliberately chose the XM over this design. The XM was a disrespect to BMW heritage. I shouldn't have been about sales, it should have been about the soul of the company.
I think I'd get tired pretty quickly of the 'fashion' of the bright orange accents. IF the car cant present without 'screaming' color then it's trying too hard to be cool. Also... not a fan of the PIG NOSE grille
The M8 is already overpriced. BMW made the right decision to nix the i16 if they couldn't sell it for less than twice the M8 price. That's supercar territory. If you're going to market a supercar, then give it a supercar powertrain. Adding only one more cylinder to the engine compared to the i8 isn't much of an upgrade regardless of the electrification improvements. I'm ambivalent about the looks of both the concept and the 'production' version of the i16. The i8 just looks so much better than either one. It has aged *incredibly* well despite its issues. Unfortunately, it's terribly underpowered for its appearance. The XM is a horror story. Hideous, but admittedly, it is a far more logical choice financially over the i16 even if I'd prefer that it were the other way around.
I agree with what you say about HP, but disagree on the sweet spot. 560 HP seems a bit low, unless there are going to be multiple variants. If it’s going to be one, I say 700 to 800hp is the sweet spot!
Why are we pretending this is new? Didn't this production render come out right around the time the concept was being shown? Also, I prefer the concept over the production version - especially the way the greenhouse was resolved. The 3/4 window in the production render look like leftovers from the i8
im glad they scrapped it. it looks like a toy or a new mr2 competetitor. only price below m2 or around z4 could justify it. niether production or prototype look like money or look like speed but rather as a building or statement piece. all features are rather goofy and have no functionality to them. everyone loves porsches yet they don't play with shitty graphics and funny led lights, they look powerful and solid and most of all tangible.
The constant movements of the camera window are killing me I can't watch your videos for more than a minute anymore. Very amateurish and hard to watch.
You're right, the production version looks better than the concept car. That's a tradition that began with Tesla, their production version look better than their concept cars.
Both are vomit inducing and should be boycotted entirely. I will continue riding in my 98 Z3, not even a difficult choice. BMW hasn't made a decent looking car in nearly 20 years at this point, sad to see.
I can't understand what you're seeing when talking about the rear view of the car, that is the exact opposite of aesthetically pleasing. It is so obnoxiously over-engineered. The weird color splashes on the wheel area are insane and should never have left the design room. This car is the definition of ugly modern styling being called "good" when it's just plain ugly.
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i do think the XM was the logical choice between the two if the were gonna put a 4 cylinder in the i16. But if the could maybe put an inline 6 or v8 in it, I think there would be a huge market for it.
Yeah it needs a v8.
The XM is the ugliest of all the ugly BMW's of the last decade. Everyone at BMW Styling needs to be fired and all the stylists that retired since 1990 rehired.
I think that IX is even worse 😂
Couldn't have said it better myself. What's going on in BMW's design studios is a crime.
That's what happens when chinese buy you off
XM at one of the local dealerships is -$50,000 off… lol.
i5 is nice, XM is trash
I remember watching a video from SB back in 2020 I believe. And she asked something along the lines of “Mercedes has the GT, where’s the competition from BMW?” And the spokesperson for BMW in that video told her something like “they’re cooking something up.” And then they released the XM and I was so confused. Seeing this it suddenly makes sense.
Bmw just basically leaving us stranded, to bare with what they give us. Even tho is isn't enough for the current competition.
The commercials are out of hand, we don't need these models to show a car
Agreed
Exactly
And every time it has to be a woman… because we live in 2020S
Rather that than what Jaguar put out lol
@robertkelly3041 hate them both (the commercials)
Man the Chris bangle era staring to continue to become timeless
@@jeromep3182 I won’t get rid of my e90 coupe. From styling, to all hydraulic steering, that solid in line 6, the Bangle designs are what brought bmw to the modern age at that time.
Now bmw verges on the “Chinese market” consumer with the over the top design and kitschy tech. However, if I had to rid of my e90 I’ll probably go i5 whenever she ever kicks the bucket.
This is what happens when you let the accountants rule you, the customers are impressed by what the engineers do, not by the numbers the accountants and analyst what-have-you's come up with. Those guys are just there to ensure that the engineers keep doing what they love.
The concept cars show that they still know how to design a car. They just can’t seem to bring any of those good designs to market.
fun fact: NOBODY is buying the XM
People are though, it's nice.
This is untrue as there's quite a few in miami.
More than enough in China and Europe.
A lot of people are. I think it’s the "bmw" of their new design language
eh, if people buy tesla's, people will definitely buy this.
500hp isn't super car numbers these days. Definitely not worth spending 100k for 500hp
Unless it's light
The head designer said that the prototype for this car was so close to production that it already took in consideration part sharing to reduce cost and mentioned as an example, the fact that the tail lights are taken off the X6
the design for me has abit of bugatti dna
New Bembli video? Yes.
Redesign video? Nope 😓
I honestly don't see the point of his videos anymore
@@iamsrx8 yeah.
The thing about the XM is it may have bold styling, but as a product, it's utterly forgettable. People care more about the M2 all day, every day. And if BMW proceeded to release that supercar, it would've had to be called, M1, and it would've needed a PHEV or HEV inline 6. Enough ppl would spend 200k for that.
XM depreciation has been Wild!
You Meen we got a v8 instead of a stupid 4 cilinder from a 1 series 😂
I8 looks more futuristic. Based on looks I will pay same or more for a i8 facelift.
At 240k, it won’t sell well! Not with only 560hp!
The GT3 RS has 525 hp and sells for about 300K USD
@ different car! This is no GT3 RS there for 500+ horses isn’t cutting it! This thing is a hybrid for one which is heavy! At least make it over 600!
@@xelaander8429 Its a porsche, obv it would sell
It sold for around 1 mil in singapore
@@xelaander8429 Apple meet orange. See, this is what happens when pure numbers are compared divorced of any context. The GT3 RS is a *stripped-down high downforce RACE car* that can legally be driven on the street. It has one of the lowest times of any production vehicle on the Nurburgring. It was made for the track first and foremost. The i16 wasn't intended to be a racecar or even taken to the track as its primary role. It would have been a two-seat hybrid GT car and technological showcase. It would make much more sense to compare it to standard 911 or the turbo version not the RS.
I love the XM .. I've seen many in Orlando.. all black is a must imo .. its sound and interior is amazing.. shame the m5 doesn't come stock with the sound of the XM
you know a car is good looking when "all black is a must"
@NameJeff21 for an Suv that's just my taste . Colors only look really good on sports cars imo
@@NameJeff21 from what ive seen not even all black can save it
Agreed, instead of black I’d go for like green, blue, or white, but yeah the XM looks great imo
I see what you mean though with all black, especially with the illuminated kidneys
@@rishinarang9966 renegade XM will change ur mind quickly
XM looks Ugly . X16 likes better . Let it live, just do a limited Run . 🤷🏽♂️
How can I disable this automatically translated audio track FOREVER?
xm has a nice road presence. Looks boss.
They already made SUV’s why the heck they canned this
The XM and i16 were both hybrid based performance cars, so they went with the XM cause it would've sold well
they fucked the price point of the 8 series. thats why they sit and tank in pricing.
Knowing how popular Hyundais vision N 74 concept was this design by BMW would’ve been super popular. I think the design alone combined with a good interior would’ve justified the price. They could also play into their WEC racing platform to get some more performance
BMW teases us with beautiful cars then gives us some ugly ducks😂
Now this bmw is not bad but I feel the most beautiful bmw right now had to go to the BMW skyTop hands down
When a company only goes for profit, it will die. A company that always hears the customers will survive.
And people thought the 05 M5 was ugly
Cool looking cars dead and people killed it
Cause majority buys SUVs
BMW is still patting themselves on the back for picking the XM. 👀🤦🏻♂️
Imo, The scraped M16 (if that's what it's called) looks great in the front - 9/10
If the back would be from this 6:43, it woukd be also a strong - 9/10
i8 design is so beautiful i underestimated it when it first dropped but shii😍😍still looks modern to me
I am wishing to do a Rant on modern BMW's, and would be a great idea.
New BMWs are ugly af.
Don't even want one for free, I would sell that garbage so fast.
In this segment of a BMW M signature car, SUV popularity in the mass market should not have been a guideline. 🤷♂️
Looks like the NSX and the I8 had a baby
If it had supercar performance, I think that car would sell ok at 250K and would be great for the brand
Getting excited by EV power figures is so passé like you can literally just dial it in with a laptop
I don’t understand why BMW is known as the drivers brand out of the German trinity - Yet they are the only one that never had a supercar. Such a lost opportunity.
The XM doesn’t even properly fit into BMW’s lineup, aka why they’ve gone terribly, knowing they killed off a car for a segment they almost never touch and it was nearly finished is baffling.
BMW is facing some real internal demons right now, and need to get their act together before they get gutted into a soulless appliance maker like jaguar and Mercedes.
OMG this is so gorgeous, it's perhaos even better than the i8. 😍 Such a shame!!! 😕
The proportions are a bit stubby. The i8 looked low and thin.
Well, that’s what they get for selling out for the money because no one’s gonna buy the XM like they thought and the brand will continue to deteriorate
The X6M is already an incredible sporty SUV
How do you call a giant bright red accent 'elegant'?
Fun fact: BMW change their mind and designs more every other day
Basically a fat lambo with a broken muzzle
The XM IS SUCK A NASTY SUV the ugliest suv in the market shame to these board members that approved this nonsense of suv
V8 hybrid or V12 hybrid would have been the move. Flat plane crank and some steering feel would have made new fans of the brand. But no.... Gotta go SUV because money. It's like they forgot they were supposed to be making the ultimate driving machine
Everyone complains about the XM, imo it’s a cool car.
Compared to the nonsense Mercedes G for example, a driving garage door… but people still buy it 😅🤷🏽♂️
i I haven't seen anyone drive a XM. It's slower than the X5M and it's more expensive and much worst loking.
i wish bmw would do a mid engine v8 hybrid instead. sadly for that price this would sit next to the new nsx. same price not selling and quickly cancelled. buyers over 150k dont want a 3 or 4 cylinder hybrid.
Bmw dna has one of the best potential to be in supercar category but the company doesn't want to
I think the XM was a big L for bmw that hybrid engine should have been in bespoke M super car that would have been a good solid choice
The commercial reminds me of the jaguar one everybody hates 😂
BMW definitely dropped the ball 😵💫 not producing that car 😑 I’ve NEVER seen an XM on the road
The XM was a completely failure I’ve only seen 3 of them on road near Miami. It is just a 6000 pounds X5M with a hybrid that is not even faster then a X5M.
Xm needs an E46 insipired facelift.
Concept from looks sick
This would be the perfect replacement for i8
Can someone Kick out the BMW CEO and the M CEO pls
We got robbed 😑🤦🏾♂️ damn it BMW 😡 sidenote the one on the right
Something about BMW design and leadership seems … off. Dunno.
You mean they deliberately chose the XM over this design. The XM was a disrespect to BMW heritage. I shouldn't have been about sales, it should have been about the soul of the company.
They really killed the two door for the XM, Suprisingly people are buying it, the power is nice but it looks fugly, I'll say that.
I think I'd get tired pretty quickly of the 'fashion' of the bright orange accents. IF the car cant present without 'screaming' color then it's trying too hard to be cool. Also... not a fan of the PIG NOSE grille
The M8 is already overpriced. BMW made the right decision to nix the i16 if they couldn't sell it for less than twice the M8 price. That's supercar territory. If you're going to market a supercar, then give it a supercar powertrain. Adding only one more cylinder to the engine compared to the i8 isn't much of an upgrade regardless of the electrification improvements. I'm ambivalent about the looks of both the concept and the 'production' version of the i16. The i8 just looks so much better than either one. It has aged *incredibly* well despite its issues. Unfortunately, it's terribly underpowered for its appearance. The XM is a horror story. Hideous, but admittedly, it is a far more logical choice financially over the i16 even if I'd prefer that it were the other way around.
I agree with what you say about HP, but disagree on the sweet spot. 560 HP seems a bit low, unless there are going to be multiple variants. If it’s going to be one, I say 700 to 800hp is the sweet spot!
560 is no nowhere near low for a 4 cylinder sportscar, what is wrong with you people
@ don’t make it a 4 cylinder for over 240k🤷🏾♂️
We were robbed
It’s BMW they been doing this for years🤬🤬🤬
Why are we pretending this is new? Didn't this production render come out right around the time the concept was being shown?
Also, I prefer the concept over the production version - especially the way the greenhouse was resolved. The 3/4 window in the production render look like leftovers from the i8
Why is everyone here even calling it trash??
It's not trash, it should be sent to a recycling center to melt... It's too ugly to be called trash
The XM is a disgrace for BMW
do u guys prefer this over the 911 ?
if u buying one ...
i hate BMW recently for being dumb
And no one likes it for reason they don’t even understand😂
Bmw has lost their appealing looks, I still think their older vehicles are better looking.
Interesting
Yo
They are so painfully dumb
BMW eats 💩 nowadays
Plz dont do what jaguar did bmw..know your audience
Would be interested in what you think of that guy who made what he calls a cyber roadster.
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im glad they scrapped it. it looks like a toy or a new mr2 competetitor. only price below m2 or around z4 could justify it. niether production or prototype look like money or look like speed but rather as a building or statement piece. all features are rather goofy and have no functionality to them. everyone loves porsches yet they don't play with shitty graphics and funny led lights, they look powerful and solid and most of all tangible.
The constant movements of the camera window are killing me I can't watch your videos for more than a minute anymore. Very amateurish and hard to watch.
both look bad
You're right, the production version looks better than the concept car. That's a tradition that began with Tesla, their production version look better than their concept cars.
I'm 2nd
Dayumm am first
I feel like I should not say this, but choosing the XM over this was kinda right...
Both are vomit inducing and should be boycotted entirely. I will continue riding in my 98 Z3, not even a difficult choice. BMW hasn't made a decent looking car in nearly 20 years at this point, sad to see.
I can't understand what you're seeing when talking about the rear view of the car, that is the exact opposite of aesthetically pleasing. It is so obnoxiously over-engineered. The weird color splashes on the wheel area are insane and should never have left the design room. This car is the definition of ugly modern styling being called "good" when it's just plain ugly.