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  • Опубликовано: 7 дек 2021
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    So you haven't read the Hobbit? Well, you're in for a dragon-sized treat! J. R. R. Tolkien's classic novel was the inspiration for so many works of literature and art that came after it. It drafted the beginnings of a tale into what became the basis of Lord of the Rings and brought intricate fictional languages, people, and world-building to the next level.
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Комментарии • 527

  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  2 года назад +73

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    • @Mar1aHass4n
      @Mar1aHass4n 2 года назад

      Im doing the hobbit rn in school thank you guys ( i read it 21 times )

    • @Genesis23OPB
      @Genesis23OPB 2 года назад +4

      small correction: the factions in the war dont include the eagles as they come at the very end, its humans, dwarfes, elves, orcs and wargs that are counted as the factions.

    • @chipanderson5369
      @chipanderson5369 2 года назад +2

      Plz do The Lord of the Rings!

    • @strikereureka345
      @strikereureka345 2 года назад

      Do the Lord of the rings

    • @Lorgramoth
      @Lorgramoth 2 года назад +1

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  • @rmsgrey
    @rmsgrey 2 года назад +928

    Nitpick: in the book, Bard's black arrow wasn't particularly deadly nor otherwise special except that it was his favourite, "lucky" arrow that he'd always saved for last and made sure to recover after each use.

    • @George_M_
      @George_M_ 2 года назад +70

      As long as it's not depicted as a ballista

    • @monkeybabble
      @monkeybabble 2 года назад +55

      I was going to nitpick that Gandalf and Bilbo weren't friends before the gathering with the dwarfs. Thus, the "good morning" conversation 😅.

    • @albertnormal6834
      @albertnormal6834 2 года назад +30

      As long as we're nitpicking, the eagles didn't fly the hobbit and friends to laketown.

    • @federicoapl
      @federicoapl 2 года назад +24

      @@monkeybabble correct me if i am wrong, but gandalf kenw Bilbo in his youth, when he was visiting Bilbos's mother. grandmother.

    • @bobgilbert1953
      @bobgilbert1953 2 года назад +23

      @@federicoapl They were...friends is a strong word. It's like saying you're friends with your parents friends.

  • @Centurian128
    @Centurian128 2 года назад +378

    As one who has read "The Hobbit" recently, I love the amount of references that made it into this one. From the colors of the Dwarves caps, to the Trolls from "Hilda," to Smaug looking like the version from the 1977 animated "The Hobbit." Huge props on this episode! Great work!

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  2 года назад +41

      Thank you!

    • @Centurian128
      @Centurian128 2 года назад +3

      @@extrahistory Most welcome!

    • @tanketom
      @tanketom 2 года назад +7

      I also want to congratulate them on Bilbo's beard. That etching pattern is near and dear to my heart.

    • @niivoenterprises-4217
      @niivoenterprises-4217 2 года назад +2

      I loved the trolls too :)

    • @CoffeeWyrm
      @CoffeeWyrm 2 года назад +3

      Also, a reference to Fantasy from 'The Pagemaster' at 4:20 ... I might be the only one who remembers that movie.

  • @LORDOFDORKNESS42
    @LORDOFDORKNESS42 2 года назад +553

    My most favorite baffling thing about this book...
    Spoilers!
    Spoilers!
    Spoilers!
    ...Is how the great, big battle just... gets skipped over. Because the view-point character gets knocked out five minutes into it. And has to hear a second hand account on how awesome it was!
    That one took some GUTS as a writer, even back then.

    • @poilboiler
      @poilboiler 2 года назад +18

      The kinda bad Hobbit movies would have been improved by that.

    • @LORDOFDORKNESS42
      @LORDOFDORKNESS42 2 года назад +30

      @@poilboiler Honestly, I mostly liked & enjoyed the Hobbit Movie trilogy... but yeah, they're deeply flawed. Won't even pretend otherwise.

    • @davidwilliam9681
      @davidwilliam9681 2 года назад +18

      Kind of what happened to Tolkien himself in real life, during WW1.

    • @mjbull5156
      @mjbull5156 2 года назад +27

      The book originates with a story he told his kids when they were small, he did not want to into gory details.

    • @KaiJason
      @KaiJason 2 года назад +9

      when they turned 2 pages into a 2 and half hour moive... I wish they didn't.

  • @Wolfeson28
    @Wolfeson28 2 года назад +148

    3:23 So, the whole thing about Bilbo initially lying about how exactly he got the ring and only revealing the true story later was actually an in-universe reflection of Tolkien's later ret-con to make LoTR work? I've been a huge fan of those books for ages, and I never knew that.

    • @thomassaxon8254
      @thomassaxon8254 2 года назад +31

      Tolkien was big into the meta game - the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit are meant to be the book of Westmarch written by Bilbo and Frodo that Tolkien has translated for us.

  • @InquisitorThomas
    @InquisitorThomas 2 года назад +532

    You forgot the part where Legolas jumped defied physics but running across a bridge of falling debris. The most important part of the book.

    • @batbite_
      @batbite_ 2 года назад +30

      My most hated moment

    • @rmsgrey
      @rmsgrey 2 года назад +40

      Or when Tauriel and Kili spent what felt like forever taking turns making last-minute saves from certain doom for each other until one of them finally rolled a natural 1...

    • @marcus4046
      @marcus4046 2 года назад +4

      nah man the part with dain ironfoot and his anti arrow balistas and the goats....(ok i dont know if thats not a part of the book but i still liked that part it was funny)

    • @unknownfor3818
      @unknownfor3818 2 года назад +5

      @@rmsgrey "I could have something down my trousers"

    • @mattdarrock666
      @mattdarrock666 2 года назад +7

      Because it's perfectly normal to walk on fresh snow and not sink...

  • @Janoha17
    @Janoha17 2 года назад +130

    Hobbits have the highest base stealth score, and some of the highest magic resistance scores in the setting.

    • @codebracker
      @codebracker 2 года назад +1

      And they can reroll natural 1s

  • @Jtwhite500
    @Jtwhite500 2 года назад +154

    My college, strangely enough, has an incredible collection of J. R. R. Tolkien documents including the very first reference to the Hobbit written on a student’s exam.

    • @herman1francis
      @herman1francis 2 года назад +17

      if i recall correctly he was writing a 0 on a student's exam and he was inspired to write : in a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit.
      And as they say, the rest is history

    • @spangelicious837
      @spangelicious837 2 года назад +4

      Marquette University?

    • @kathyastrom1315
      @kathyastrom1315 2 года назад +2

      They bought his archive back in the mid-50s for just $5000!

    • @Jtwhite500
      @Jtwhite500 2 года назад +2

      @@spangelicious837 Correct.

  • @ghostkaiser1716
    @ghostkaiser1716 2 года назад +264

    I was raised on Tolkein literature, and this is always a good story.

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  2 года назад +23

      Agreed!

    • @rune5916
      @rune5916 2 года назад

      This is always a GREAT story.

    • @mattoni553
      @mattoni553 Год назад

      Yeah Jolkien Rolkien Rolkien Tolkien was an outstanding writer!

  • @K9TheFirst1
    @K9TheFirst1 2 года назад +205

    Looking forward to "So You Haven't Read The Silmarillian."
    Heck, just an episode on The Children of Hurin would make my year.

  • @ShawnMM
    @ShawnMM 2 года назад +55

    One of my all time favorite books but you got some errors in the video. Gandalf was with them most of the time till Mirkwood before leaving for a side-quest. The eagles did not take them to Lake-town but instead an area to West of Mirkwood, where they meet Beorn. At least in interviews Tolkien said he hated allegories. The taking of a cup angering the dragon comes from Beowulf.

    • @ChrisMattern-oh6wx
      @ChrisMattern-oh6wx Месяц назад

      A few others: the elven languages came first, a toy for the amusement of a developing linguist. Then thoughts of what kind of people would speak that language led to the first drafts of the Silmarillion. The Hobbit, which started as bedtime stories for Tolkien's children, was at first not connected to "Middle Earth". When The Hobbit was a success, Allen & Unwin wanted a sequel. Tolkien countered by asking if they could try publishing the Silmarillion. After looking at it, Allen & Unwin declared it unpublishable; it would never sell. So Tolkien wrote the Lord of the Rings, a sequel to The Hobbit--and to the Silmarillion, tying the two previously unrelated works together.
      Matt mentions The Hobbit's starting point as "The Shire". The Shire is never mentioned in The Hobbit. Not once. Bilbo's home is simply described being located in "The Hill". The Shire as the greater region that contained The Hill was not presented until The Lord of The Rings.
      Addendum the maps mention Hobbiton--but not the Shire.

  • @cataquackwarlord5389
    @cataquackwarlord5389 2 года назад +25

    Also, the order of events described is a little jumbled. The goblin/Gollum encounters and the eagle rescued happened before the giant spiders, as the party also had to venture through a confusing forest before reaching Lake Town. Also, Gandalf was around some of the time, not leaving the party completely until they reached the woods.

  • @cheezemonkeyeater
    @cheezemonkeyeater 2 года назад +93

    I'm sure one of these days you'll come across a book I actually haven't read. There's so many that odds are good one of them is on your list.

  • @AegixDrakan
    @AegixDrakan 2 года назад +40

    I still can't get over that Gandalf hijacks Bilbo's house for a dwarven rave, then bamboozles Bilbo into tagging along when he had no interest in going...AND THEN has the temerity to abandon the party halfway through, right when things get seriously dangerous.
    There's RUDE, and then there's what Gandalf pulled! XD
    Also, wow, youtube's auto-captions recognize the word "burninate". I would not have expected that.

    • @maddie9602
      @maddie9602 2 года назад +1

      Homestar Runner's reach is far.

    • @AegixDrakan
      @AegixDrakan 2 года назад +1

      @@maddie9602 "WAH! That is not a small [reach]! That is a BIG [reach]! What are we gonna do?!"

    • @isaiahesters5432
      @isaiahesters5432 2 года назад +1

      I see this as a setup so that when he returns he can say "If you're referring to the incident with the dragon, I was barely involved."

  • @ChaosDX1
    @ChaosDX1 2 года назад +42

    Where would modern fantasy be without Tolkien? At the very least elves would probably still be short toymakers instead of tall forest hermits. Pretty sure that was Tolkien's decision, and fantasy writers have been borrowing that image, and many others, ever since.

    • @insaincaldo
      @insaincaldo 2 года назад +2

      Others would have found inspiration in Nordic stories, perhaps not explode like he ended up, but he also didn't get famous over night.

    • @MehrumesDagon
      @MehrumesDagon 2 года назад

      reminds me of a translation of hobbit I have read in elementary school...
      where sting was apparently made by "gnomes of gondolin" xD

    • @gunjfur8633
      @gunjfur8633 2 года назад +1

      Arent Christmas Elves also a modern invention?

    • @insaincaldo
      @insaincaldo 2 года назад +2

      @@gunjfur8633 Older then the Hobbit and of similar folk lore origin to what became fantasy elves, but didn't fully have an identity as anything but fay tricksters, nor had association with christmas till about mid 1800's

    • @gunjfur8633
      @gunjfur8633 2 года назад +1

      @@insaincaldo
      Remimds me of how the only named Elf from Norse Myth was a Smith, even though thats more of a Dwarf trait

  • @elizabethc1463
    @elizabethc1463 2 года назад +11

    Tolkien had a famous hatred of allegory. He said repeatedly that nothing in his books was an allegory of anything.

  • @JHa-se7or
    @JHa-se7or 2 года назад +34

    The Hobbit and Lord of The Rings books are definitely a different style of writing to modern books. Its hard to explain what I mean, but Tolkien and his contemporaries wrote differently compared to the writers of today. Its more.... dense.

  • @vel0xraperio
    @vel0xraperio 2 года назад +29

    Skipping Beorn and Mirkwood is unforgivable! Roll a charisma check for forgiveness!

    • @tvvideos9937
      @tvvideos9937 2 года назад +9

      Not just skipping, but completely erasing. The journey through Mirkwood is pretty key for explaining the elves' motivation for the war. Surely you can do better EC.

  • @Rojaniel
    @Rojaniel 2 года назад +32

    The influence of this book could never be overstated. This, combined with war games, was responsible for D&D, which led to the creation of Ultima and Wizardry, which led to the creation of Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, etc. The concept of an RPG.

  • @25Leprechaun
    @25Leprechaun 2 года назад +16

    3 for the elven Kings under the sky
    7 for the dwarf Lords in their Halls of stone
    9 for the mortal men doomed to die
    1 for the dark lord on his dark throne
    One ring to rule them all
    One ring to find them
    One ring to bring them all
    And in the darkness bind them
    In the land of Mordor where the shadows lie.

  • @futball51
    @futball51 2 года назад +24

    I would really like a link to the source of Tolkien specifically calling out the allegory regarding Smaug.. considering Tolkien being famous for stating that he hates allegory and any allegory you see in his writing is your own perspective

    • @kittydreamz86
      @kittydreamz86 2 года назад +10

      "The sort of rage that is seen only when rich folk that have more than they can enjoy suddenly lose something that they have long had but have never before used or wanted."

    • @kittydreamz86
      @kittydreamz86 2 года назад +4

      Allegory, for the record, is not the same thing as allusion or relevance. He very much intended The Hobbit to be conparative to the small village dwelling, everyday people of England and their capacity for resiliance, strength, and goodness, for example.

    • @essneyallen6777
      @essneyallen6777 2 года назад +6

      He hated the concept of allegory as in "allegorical stories" that have a fixed meaning to decode. He prefered for his works the term "applicability" (iirc) because in any narration of fantasy you will find elements and experiences (and similes) that relate to our own world.

    • @futball51
      @futball51 2 года назад +1

      @@kittydreamz86 thank you!

    • @tolkienism3806
      @tolkienism3806 3 месяца назад

      ​@@kittydreamz86 one quote does not make something an alegpry. Dragons are known for being greedy, even the beowolf dragon, witch smaug was heavily based on was greedy. Allegory is not a baseline comparison between one thing and another. Sure it is a big part, but it is a bit more complicated.

  • @reillycurran8508
    @reillycurran8508 2 года назад +49

    Apparently Tolkien used his experience from the trenches a lot more when telling the story of Sam and Frodo scaling the mountain, that whole section is apparently an allegory about the specific forms of hell that trench warfare put you through, even down to them forgetting the tastes of some foods.

    • @MySerpentine
      @MySerpentine 2 года назад +2

      Oh yeah. The Dead Marshes were the no-mans-land in the rain.

    • @vexaris1890
      @vexaris1890 Год назад +1

      No, no allegory. Tolkien hated allegories.

    • @the_tactician9858
      @the_tactician9858 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@vexaris1890No allegory, but he heavily leans on his experience in the war. And while he despises allegories there are clear themes visible in his story, like the devastation industrial military economies bring onto the world, the dangers of greed and power and that the ideal society is the humble but pleasurable hobbit society.

  • @manarmsgaming9223
    @manarmsgaming9223 2 года назад +44

    I'm actually reading this right now! What hilarious timing!

  • @ianmoore4159
    @ianmoore4159 2 года назад +15

    Finally, Gandalf takes his rightful place as a conjurer of Cheap Trick!

  • @charlesbennett7484
    @charlesbennett7484 2 года назад +10

    I was introduced to "The Hobbit" in school when we were made to read a few chapters out of a textbook. I HAD to go find the actual book. After I did find a copy ( at a thrift store), my Great Uncle gave me the "Lord of the Rings" books as well.

  • @ErikGunnarDahlin
    @ErikGunnarDahlin 2 года назад +15

    A correction to the video. The "battle of the five armies", the "five armies" do not count the eagles as one of the armies, and not Beorn, neither the bats or the ravens. The five armies are Goblins, Wolves, Elves, Men, Dwarves and the fifth army... Wargs!
    Source is The Annotated Hobbit, ed. Douglas A. Anderson, p. 339

    • @mikesands4681
      @mikesands4681 2 года назад

      There were two armies of dwarves. Those in the mountain and those coming to rescue them.

    • @twistedtachyon5877
      @twistedtachyon5877 2 года назад +3

      @@mikesands4681 the ones in the mountain don't get to be their own army, since there's only 12 of them.

    • @IdaSantti
      @IdaSantti Год назад

      @@twistedtachyon5877 13

  • @cataquackwarlord5389
    @cataquackwarlord5389 2 года назад +9

    Kind of a correction about Gandalf's relationship to Bilbo - he was more of a family friend than BFF, at least at the start of the story. He shows up, and Bilbo has no idea who he is until he gives his name. That said, they do have a strong friendship by the end.

    • @georgy2596
      @georgy2596 2 года назад

      I’m pretty sure bilbo just forgot about him

  • @moonsaces2122
    @moonsaces2122 2 года назад +9

    Love the Pagemaster reference! One of my favorite movies as a child and totally an inspiration for me studying library science

  • @caenieve
    @caenieve 2 года назад +8

    For anyone curious, the Tengwar (Elvish script) at 7:36 is in English and says “like Elvish”

  • @coold3awesome98
    @coold3awesome98 2 года назад +12

    Gandalf: Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks!
    Also Gandalf: 2:25
    Love this reference.

  • @deathofme1
    @deathofme1 2 года назад +5

    Cat dragon Smaug from the animated movie is my favorite version. His monologue about how hardcore awesome he is gives me freaking chills

  • @MrBrockman407
    @MrBrockman407 2 года назад +3

    "One ring to rule them all,
    One ring to find them.
    One ring to bring them all,
    and in the darkness, bind them."

    • @marjae2767
      @marjae2767 2 года назад +2

      Ash nazg durbatuluk,
      Ash nazg gimbatul,
      Ash nazg thrakatuluk,
      Agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.

  • @Audentior_Ito
    @Audentior_Ito 2 года назад +24

    Imagine talking about JRRT's work without mentioning how much his passionate Christianity, his linguistic scholarship, & his children shaped his world/stories.

    • @_M4X15
      @_M4X15 2 года назад +1

      They have and did.

    • @Read_Scripture
      @Read_Scripture 2 года назад +6

      Honestly, the journeying, genealogy and a lot of the narrative etc are pretty much inspired from scripture. You can definitely see his bible nerding in his creation of middle earth etc.

    • @CrimsonBlasphemy
      @CrimsonBlasphemy 2 года назад +9

      And how is childhood trauma from a South African tarantula bite, has cause spiders to be cemented as default "evil creature" in fantasy settings. From D&D to Minecraft.

    • @Audentior_Ito
      @Audentior_Ito 2 года назад +8

      @@Read_Scripture absolutely! And, as the Hobbit was primarily written to be a uniquely Anglo-Saxon series of fairy tales, it's no accident that its evil is all tied to Christian ethics. Greedy dragons, gluttonous trolls, wrathful goblins, worshippers of dark false powers.

    • @MovieFan1912
      @MovieFan1912 2 года назад +2

      Not to mention his travels, including Lauterbrunnen.

  • @cubeul2943
    @cubeul2943 2 года назад +9

    Gollum was called so because of the gulping sound he makes at the end of his sentences, the book explicitly states that he calls himself “My precious (though LOTR complicates this somewhat)

  • @benjaminfeld6388
    @benjaminfeld6388 2 года назад +8

    You know, the hobbit is one of my favorite stories. So I cannot thank you enough for this episode.

  • @troperhghar9898
    @troperhghar9898 2 года назад +5

    2:32 "you get captured by trolls"
    Correction those are Hilda trolls

  • @Hammahlovesyou
    @Hammahlovesyou 2 года назад +18

    Finally one I've read, and I've listened to that song on repeat more than once 🤣

  • @kevinsullivan3448
    @kevinsullivan3448 2 года назад +10

    I love how Gandalf's level is [REDACTED].

  • @cmschmidt
    @cmschmidt 2 года назад +3

    I love the burninating reference, and all the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins references. Perfection!

  • @stevenclark2188
    @stevenclark2188 2 года назад +4

    The thing I love most about The Hobbit, is that it's not just the precursor to the standard epic fantasy, it's also the precursor to Pratchett-style snarky fantasy.

  • @LAKINGSFAN99
    @LAKINGSFAN99 2 года назад +9

    How'd you fit this book into 1 episode? I thought it'd take at least 3! 😉

  • @benhobson3084
    @benhobson3084 2 года назад +2

    LOL. Except for Dracula, every book you have covered thus far was required reading for me in high school. What is next "So You Haven't Read - Crabbe" or "So You Haven't Read - The Chrysalids" I should start a bingo card.

    • @twistedtachyon5877
      @twistedtachyon5877 2 года назад

      I've never even heard of those two. What's a chrysalid?

  • @AatiNiiranen
    @AatiNiiranen 2 года назад +13

    Fun fact J. R. R. Tolkien was inspired by Finnish mythology for his stories

    • @gunjfur8633
      @gunjfur8633 2 года назад +2

      Partly yes

    • @anonymouslyopinionated656
      @anonymouslyopinionated656 2 года назад

      More Anglo-Saxon mythology than Finnish... Finnish + Welsh were the prime influences for his languages though.

  • @YukiEiri4E
    @YukiEiri4E 2 года назад +2

    I love this but thanks for the unexpected cry. RIP Mr Nimoy, you amazing person

  • @AaronCorr
    @AaronCorr 2 года назад +5

    The Hobbit was my very first "proper" book. I still have my parents' old version

  • @jonathanfaber3291
    @jonathanfaber3291 2 года назад +7

    I await the day this covers Neuromancer, so we can finally, finally, have the extra sci-fi series about William Gibson we deserve

    • @Breakfast_of_Champions
      @Breakfast_of_Champions 2 года назад

      This. Or maybe even the Expanse, the last book has just released, complete series is a good time for an overview.

    • @stevenn1940
      @stevenn1940 2 года назад

      So, I might have misread that as "necrodancer" for a second.. I've been playing a lot of crypt of the necrodancer lately.
      Neuromancer makes more sense though lol

    • @JackGladstoneHolroyde
      @JackGladstoneHolroyde 2 года назад

      Oh god yes

  • @blaster915
    @blaster915 2 года назад +9

    Love this!!! Going to look for that Bilbo song now ahaha 🎶

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  2 года назад +1

      You'll never be able to forget it. :)

  • @gregvoelker7386
    @gregvoelker7386 2 года назад +1

    Uh...the giant eagles flew Bilbo to Lake Town? No '14 little birds bonfire' escape? No Beorn? No Mirkwood spiders? No Wood Elves? No barrel ride?

  • @cataquackwarlord5389
    @cataquackwarlord5389 2 года назад +3

    I loved reading the Hobbit as a kid - and still do!
    I really like the edition I have because it's really big and has these beautiful illustrations by Michael Hague - some of them, like the Battle of Five Armies and the dwarves at Bilbo's home, are two-page spreads and truly a sight to behold, capturing the wondrous feel of the story perfectly.

  • @M.E.ANDHistory
    @M.E.ANDHistory 2 года назад +1

    Fingers crossed that one or more of the following is covered:
    1) War and Peace
    2) Les Miserables
    3) Dante's Divine Comedy
    4) Canterbury Tales
    5) The Hunchback of Notre Dame
    6) The Da Vinci Code

  • @MrFisher150421
    @MrFisher150421 2 года назад

    2:31 - I LOVE that you used the Hilda trolls, it's such a subtle and awesome nod to such a great series!

  • @jacobshore5115
    @jacobshore5115 2 года назад +7

    I remember both reading and listening to it as a book on CD back in high school, it’s always one of my favorite books! Thanks for the video!

  • @QUIRK1019
    @QUIRK1019 2 года назад +2

    I have re-read The Hobbit so many times I can recite the first page. Y'all did a great job

  • @analog3d0849
    @analog3d0849 Год назад

    I dad was a huge fan of The Hobbit and gave me his copy of The Hobbit which I still have today and has a really cool sleeve and has riding all over it. It was awesome.

  • @Lunautau101
    @Lunautau101 2 года назад +3

    I actually have read this because I had a 6th grade English teacher obsessed with Tolkien

  • @garcalej
    @garcalej 11 месяцев назад +1

    Bilbo: Stuff to do?
    Gandalf: I assure you, I would not abandon this venture were it not a matter of the most grave importance.
    And right now the fate of Middle Earth balances on getting Cheap Trick back together…..

  • @angrynightmob
    @angrynightmob 2 года назад

    Gandalf, literally conjuring up Cheap Trick, I love that pun.

  • @joshuaespinoza8325
    @joshuaespinoza8325 Год назад

    2:31 neat reference to Hilda, with the rock trolls. one of my favorite series' of all time.

  • @olorin7611
    @olorin7611 2 года назад +1

    You completely forgot Beorn! You know, the giant shape-changing bear who personally wins the Battle of the 5 Armies for the heroes? C'mon man.

  • @Switcharoo12
    @Switcharoo12 2 года назад

    6:20 "Burninate" the whole village; nice TROGDOR reference right there! 🤘

  • @pandawok301
    @pandawok301 2 года назад +1

    Far over, the misty mountains cold…

  • @abcdef27669
    @abcdef27669 2 года назад +4

    “C’mon, boys, we’re going to an adventure!”

  • @markfurlong9542
    @markfurlong9542 2 года назад +1

    Andy Circus gave a great performance in LotR, but your interpretation of Gollum's physical appearance is much closer to what I had imagined. also, big fan of that "Cheap Trick" joke! this series has been great, and I can't wait for the next one!

  • @cheezemonkeyeater
    @cheezemonkeyeater 2 года назад +7

    "Gandal rolls a natural 20 on his persuasion check."
    Wrong. The DM cannot override player choice with rolls. If Bilbo went, then it's because his player really wanted to go and he just needed something to justify his character's motives.

    • @rmsgrey
      @rmsgrey 2 года назад +1

      Wrong. The DM can override any rule they wish. It's just that it's usually a bad idea to force PCs into doing things without the player's approval if you want to keep your players.
      Also, the Dwarves are clearly NPCs, and they still needed to be persuaded.
      And furthermore, there are plenty of examples where the dice are used to override player choice:
      Player: I choose to jump across the chasm
      DM: Make an Athletics check
      Player:
      DM: That's a failed check, but I cannot override your choice, so you jump across the chasm and land safely on the other side.

  • @oneuptheextraman
    @oneuptheextraman 2 года назад +1

    I like how the order of information is 'leonard nimoy song' and THEN 'Tolkien character'.

  • @jasonsantoli4584
    @jasonsantoli4584 2 года назад +1

    I love how they used the troll design from Hilda. It’s nice to know Extra Credits watches quality shows.

  • @silvadic2207
    @silvadic2207 2 года назад +8

    This book was one of my absolute favorites. Still read it every once in a while too!
    Oh! I also read it after a test along with the entire “Lord of the Rings” series in less than 4 hours.

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  2 года назад +4

      We power read through most of this series too!

  • @olanhewitt4519
    @olanhewitt4519 2 года назад

    I loved the subtle strongbad Tragdore the burninator reference.

  • @vojtechhoracek7923
    @vojtechhoracek7923 11 месяцев назад

    Love the way you drew professor Tolkien, writing happily under a tree. Awesome!

  • @Kobies_14
    @Kobies_14 Год назад

    4:34 the eagles don’t fly them to lake town, they only fly them to the Carock where the meet Beorn and make their way through Mirkwood. At that point they get captured by the wood elves and escape down the river to lake town. You cut out like a quarter of the book.

  • @frankharr9466
    @frankharr9466 2 года назад

    Smaug isn't the only person in that movie who references greed. Movie Thorin concentrates on the needs of his entire party, but book Thorin is all about "My" this and "My" that. His greed at the end is totally foreshadowed in the Unexpected Party.
    Very nice, by the way.

  • @wendynordstrom3487
    @wendynordstrom3487 2 года назад

    Love the Hilda trolls and the Trogdor reference. Keep up the good work!

  • @insaincaldo
    @insaincaldo 2 года назад

    I feel so called out, with an early 90's edition hard cover and the audio book, waiting on me to do more then skim the drawings and finding he misty mountain poem..

  • @mariannam.a.r.s9238
    @mariannam.a.r.s9238 2 года назад +1

    Bilbo and Gandalf weren't originally bffs.
    Gandalf and Bilbo's grandfather (on his mother side) were bffs.
    Gandalf and Bilbo's friendship develops throughout the events of the "Hobbit''.
    Loved the video❤️

  • @TechWechSech
    @TechWechSech 2 года назад +5

    ''The dragon is an allegory for the rich hoarding wealth'' Meanwhile Tolkien denied his whole life that any of his work is allegorical. Way to distort the truth to push a narrative.

    • @Metal_Maoist
      @Metal_Maoist 2 года назад +1

      Didn't he just say his books weren't an allegory for christianity?
      Also, I'm pretty sure he wasn't against allegory in general, he was just against authors claiming that their authorial intent is the only way to see their story and saying that readers aren't allowed to interpret them for themselves

    • @dubbingsync
      @dubbingsync 2 года назад

      Doesn’t this series always start with “literature can be read multiple ways”. Even if Tolkien didn’t intend for that to be the reading when he wrote the book, Smaug can easily be seen as a “hoarder” type.

  • @Galistarwater
    @Galistarwater 2 года назад

    I just finished reading this book a few weeks ago when I saw this video of yours!

  • @maxleroux
    @maxleroux 2 года назад +5

    I hope you guys are planning to review "A Christmas Carol" for the holiday season. That timeless classic has been reimagined more times than I can count.

  • @garrbigster
    @garrbigster 2 года назад +1

    My favorite book! Yayayayayayay this makes me so happy! Don't forget, it's a Christmas story, it has elves!

  • @goktimusprime
    @goktimusprime 2 года назад +2

    The plural of index is indices, and the plural of medium is media.

  • @blockmasterscott
    @blockmasterscott 2 года назад

    I love the name of the coffee shop, "Smaug Roast" LOL!!!!!!!
    Oh, and thank you so much for not bringing in the talking chair!

  • @tammyt3434
    @tammyt3434 2 года назад

    JRR Tolkien: I did not draw on my experience in The War for my books.
    Historians, Literature experts, and Psychologists: You just rolled a one on persuasion.

  • @benfarrar741
    @benfarrar741 Год назад

    I really like your presentation of this story. D&D style!

  • @toni-nl5ki
    @toni-nl5ki 2 года назад

    I think i founded my favourite episode of extra credits ever. I love hobbits and Lotr so much

  • @sussell27
    @sussell27 Год назад +1

    I had three weeks to read this for school and now it's due tomorrow and I read 3 pages so now I'm here

  • @tankdempsey5977
    @tankdempsey5977 2 года назад

    6:20 AH HA!!! An osp reference, bet me, cause I know that's from blue's episode with the smoked tea

  • @TheEriegpman
    @TheEriegpman 2 года назад

    The Eagles didn't fly them to Laketown, but dropped them on that rock before Mirkwood...

  • @aliasfakename4183
    @aliasfakename4183 2 года назад

    "Burninate!" Well played Trogdor.

  • @lordspaghettiyetithe1st513
    @lordspaghettiyetithe1st513 2 года назад +1

    I swear to god i just rewatched the series over the past 6 days and now this drops. I am starting to question if life does revolve around me.

  • @maarchalk2840
    @maarchalk2840 2 года назад

    I didn't know about the Leonard Nimoy song,
    Thank you very very much.

  • @YourFunkiness
    @YourFunkiness 2 года назад +1

    Do you have a citation for that bit about Tolkein saying that Smaug was an allegory for the rich hoarding wealth? I've been doing some searching and haven't turned up anything.

  • @White__Ink
    @White__Ink 2 года назад

    Haven't seen this series! Book reviews! A whole new reason to check out this channel.

  • @enigmafleur9984
    @enigmafleur9984 2 месяца назад

    Suggestion for a book to explain.
    PLEASE do The Outsiders. It's one of my favorite High school reads, and more people should know of it.

  • @CubingHulayian
    @CubingHulayian 2 года назад

    “You get captured by trolls.” Me: hey those trolls look like they’re from hilda

  • @stephenbenner4353
    @stephenbenner4353 2 года назад

    The best part about the Leonard Nimoy song is that he’s the only one in the video without pointed ears.

  • @bibliofowl
    @bibliofowl 2 года назад

    Wow, a Pagemaster reference. Been a hell of a long time since I even thought about that movie.

  • @c.w.simpsonproductions1230
    @c.w.simpsonproductions1230 2 года назад +1

    Tolkien laid the foundation of fantasy. Without him, we wouldn’t have had other iconics like Harry Potter and A Song of Ice and Fire. Without him, not only would literature be different as a whole, but also film and television. It was the massive success of the Jackson films that helped kick off a revolution in Hollywood.

    • @martinj.fowler6262
      @martinj.fowler6262 Год назад

      I love the LotR and especially The Hobbit but I don't like what Peter Jackson did with either. He left out the most important chapter of LotR "The Scouring of the Shire" and The Hobbit was just abysmal - totally changing the story and making it too doomy. Yes the original has the death of a major character which is sad (no spoiler) but it's a good death. The tone of the film is wrong and I can't help wondering what Guillomo del Torro would have made of it; we will never know.

  • @Sniperboomheadshot49
    @Sniperboomheadshot49 2 года назад +2

    Been getting more into middle earth again. Glad to see The Hobbit get some love!

  • @sisyphyus
    @sisyphyus 2 года назад

    OMG, the Trolls from HILDA!!! Awesome!

  • @tzisorey
    @tzisorey 2 года назад

    My friends and I will flip between saying "I've been Bagginsed" if we're feeling railroaded by the DM, and saying "I'm Bagginsed" if we're feeling like too little butter scraped over too little bread.

  • @Shadow_The_Pad
    @Shadow_The_Pad 10 месяцев назад

    6:20 He burninated those thatched roof cottages!!!