I've been thinking about a design like that for the past 5 years. It's wild to think that something as bizarre as what I was imagining actually exists already in reality, let alone being over 100 years old. Though to be fair that period was absolutely overflowing with short-lived but unique actions.
@@DH-xw6jp Once Powder printers get cheap enough it has the potential to really open up the antique firearms research side of things. Well that and 3D scanning which also needs to prgress alot to be commonly useable but still one day :)
to be remembered for an obscure gun modification you did over a hundred years later is something incredible. edwen reegar probably has gotten more recognition in this 130k video than he ever did in his life
@@colinjohnson5515 Related, you should lookup the song "Just Glue Some Gears On It" by Reginald Pikedevant, it pokes fun of that trend of steampunk and encourages people to do better. Usually I'm not a fan of steampunk for that reason, but occasionally you can find actually well thought out and interesting designs by steampunk artists who know their stuff better.
Brass frame! Ring trigger! Bird's head grip! Octagonal barrel! Unusual mechanism! Weird yet beautiful Victorian aesthetics! This checks pretty much every awesome-antique-gun-feature box out there. Love it.
The en bloc clip version makes more sense though. If it had been a top loader, it easily could have been a viable option next to the Luger and C96. This rotary clip looks like a nightmare to manufacture and maintain tolerances.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Yeah these cylinders seem expensive, large and heavy relative to clips. I would rather have clips for weight and size alone. Having more ammo is very useful in a military role and weight and cost are important in civilian.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine I don't think that these were intended to be 100% interchangeable, like modern magazines are. Get 2-4 per gun that work with that gun and serialize them. Crud, even the Soviets had a hard time with that, the SVD mags are serialized to the weapon. And that was 1960s/70s!
The progression of rarity and beauty of these manually operated pistol videos is such a treat. I'm in love with the mechanics of them and that brass frame is killer. Thanks Ian for sharing them with us!
My only wish is for Ian to test fire that impressive piece of history at the gun range. I'm so impressed by the design, planning, forethought, engineering, pioneering, & its development from the ground up. The guy who made this has my respect.
On a side note: If it's "REIger" the name is pronounced "RYE-ger" If it's "RIEger" (which is more common) it's "REE-ger" Same goes for "Wiener" (correct spelling of the infamous sausage) and "Weiner" (correct spelling for someone that cries a lot).
Why do I believe that Ian is planning to make a bid? 1) It has an insane operating mechanism, 2) It was tested by the French, 3) It looks super cool with a highly Steampunk style. He’s in love. 🤣
I wonder if you could make those little "clips" out of plastic? Being it doesn't have to hold pressure like a revolver cylinder, be cool to see a modern interpretation of that mechanism
I don't think it would be very durable. All the friction of the steel hand that rotates the "cylinder" would eventually (maybe quite quickly) wear the back of it. And it would not turn anymore.
@@SteamCrane Yes there are many different kind and quality of plastics. But you generally don't use them in a situation where they have to rub again and again against a steel piece. They WILL wear no matter the quality of it.
I love how inventive and weird (in a good way) so many early cartridge firearms are designed. This design in particular is so interesting - from the ring trigger to the open bolt to that cool cylinder-clip. It's like looking at a snapshot of how clever humanity can be when we start forging into new ideas and territory!
Nice thing about this is that it is effectively a double action, but the actual trigger pull is separated from the cocking movement, so presumably light and precise like a single action. I stand to be corrected as always.
Thank you for posting this video! It is great to see reviews of these old austrian handguns. You should definitely visit the HGM if you are vistiting vienna. They got a lot of very interesting guns in their collection and maybe you could arrange to make some videos there!
@@DH-xw6jp That's not really the genuine Steampunk aesthetic though, it's what you get when people start becoming involved that have no understanding of the Victorian Retrofuturist core of the design philosophy. So they think that just adding goggles and gears and such makes something "Steampunk," when in truth, a sleek repeating pistol like the Reiger is actually what real Steampunk is supposed to look like.
Hey Ian, just wanted to let you know that this is a RIEGER 1889, named after the inventor Erwin Rieger (just looked it up in „Vom Ursprung der Selbstladepistole“). Greetings from Vienna!
The riser for the elevated rear sight looks like an “almost” modern combat sight and I feel if I were carrying or using one of these pistols, I’d usually employ it in that fashion. I love it! And very Steam or Diesel Punk. 🤘🏻
Hello again and thanks for the video. This gun is beautiful of course and quite interesting. Maybe one of the most interesting I've seen all my life. From the conception, to the materials, I think it is completely incredible. So there are only 2,and nothing is known about the inventor??? 😮😮 I am amazed!! ❤
@@daathseverus Hehe, good one, Mike! Wait, which one is it again? The 7,62x39mm, right? JOKING!!!!! It's .45 Government. pls no #cancel Forgive me FUDDER, for i have sinned...
@@littlebigheroman I understand what you are saying but i, personally, can´t agree with your taste in guns, i love the look of a double action revolver. But i fully get what you mean.
@@RiderOftheNorth1968 I love the look of classic revolvers as well, but like Ian I just appreciate less-standardized guns, in a strictly visual sense. The DA revolver is a classic melding of form and function, whereas these archaic, weird prototype guns are more about the feats of engineering and innovative design features you just don't see on many firearms. That being said, I know which I would rather own, because I have a double action revolver in my bedroom end table.
@@littlebigheroman Then we do fully agree with each other! There is a beauty in the "unorthodox" technical sollutions in these kind of guns. That was an epoc of free thinking and an almost naive belief in the Good of inventions. It was like people invented things just because it was possible, not because it was really needed. Both glorious and devastating times, the late 1800s.
The mechanism on these bolt action pistols is so cool. I’d love to see a modern iteration of these ideas. Would it work better or more efficiently than current pistols? Not at all, but it would really cool. And come on, we’ve still got revolvers!
This looks like what 1850 thought 2001 would look like
@@peterclarke7240 For two.
Retrofuturism!
its also what 1950 thought 2001 would look like too XD
Market for real version: 2
Market for repro version: 1
That’s a 50% market for repro, tell that to investors!
Judging by the other comments, you'd sell repros as fast as you could make them.
Each ring trigger video is more and more steampunky. That quick change clip is amazing. Looks like a small jet turbine.
Yet another rare and wonderful Austrian pistol from the 1890s that is not in the Fireplace Collection. Yet.
Maybe he owns the other one . . .
The developers from DICE would have a field day animating the reload.
I was thinking about how great you could make this look in a video game, first person loading would be just 👌
No, too sexist... They would not animate it.
@@thespecialbru Reminds me of the way Maliwan revolvers reload in Borderlands 2.
Plop it out, plop it in.
@@1r0zz what the fuck are you talking about? lol
@Andrew K DICE is a video game company that made the WW1 shooter game Battlefield 1
Love how aesthetically pleasing these pieces are.
I've been thinking about a design like that for the past 5 years. It's wild to think that something as bizarre as what I was imagining actually exists already in reality, let alone being over 100 years old.
Though to be fair that period was absolutely overflowing with short-lived but unique actions.
When I was 10 I invented the external combustion turbine. Later I learned in the Web that it was already invented.
This is so cool it made my magnifying monocle goggle fall off!
Right? I nearly crashed my airship.
I was so taken aback, I lost the hat on top of my hat that was on top of my other hat!
I feel like opening a company and just sell replicas of these obscure and fascinating weapons
it would bring a lot of money, probably
Dont forget to offer a whitney wolverine or a bergmann's no5.
@@DH-xw6jp Once Powder printers get cheap enough it has the potential to really open up the antique firearms research side of things. Well that and 3D scanning which also needs to prgress alot to be commonly useable but still one day :)
can I pre-order some?
@Zane Blaire I'd easily buy this pistol if I could get it for $450-$600, a lot of other would too.
This is very much a Firefly weapon, I can see any one of Malcolm's crew or rivals owning one of these.
Shiny!
Would definitely be on the hip of one of Malcolms crew. I miss that show.
to be remembered for an obscure gun modification you did over a hundred years later is something incredible. edwen reegar probably has gotten more recognition in this 130k video than he ever did in his life
I love this! It is part bolt action, part revolver, and part Ruger 10/22 rotary magazine.
Love this comment. 👍😎
These would make fantastic “Steam Punk” accessories, as Ian said they are a very “Steam Punky” design.
That was my first thought. This gun screams steampunk. It looks like something that would be wielded by a character from an H.G. Wells novel.
@@iamsmartacus You should google the Bittner pistol if you want a really steampunk manual repeater.
Far too functional for steam punk! Needs more random clock gears.
@@colinjohnson5515 Related, you should lookup the song "Just Glue Some Gears On It" by Reginald Pikedevant, it pokes fun of that trend of steampunk and encourages people to do better.
Usually I'm not a fan of steampunk for that reason, but occasionally you can find actually well thought out and interesting designs by steampunk artists who know their stuff better.
Brass frame! Ring trigger! Bird's head grip! Octagonal barrel! Unusual mechanism! Weird yet beautiful Victorian aesthetics! This checks pretty much every awesome-antique-gun-feature box out there. Love it.
Ian wants a reproduction, I want a reproduction, who else wants a reproduction? Let's get a Kickstarter going.
To the machine shop!
I would also like one. Wonder if .32 acp would work?
It's mostly brass, you could sand cast it...
@@kschleic9053
Farmcraft101 needs to see this!!!
I want one!
This is my favourite of these so far , that mechanism is very pleasing
Love the look of these guns, no straight lines in the frame, it's all just beautiful curves, very organic looking.
Quick? Change? R E V O L V E R??
I love this stuff. Keep it up Ian!
Good way to get around the gun grabbers when it gets worse.....
When Ian is in the process of showing an already beautiful collection of manually operated pistols then says the best was saved for last.
what a clever idea to have a replacable circular "clip' that couldbe dropped and replaced.
The en bloc clip version makes more sense though. If it had been a top loader, it easily could have been a viable option next to the Luger and C96. This rotary clip looks like a nightmare to manufacture and maintain tolerances.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Yeah these cylinders seem expensive, large and heavy relative to clips. I would rather have clips for weight and size alone. Having more ammo is very useful in a military role and weight and cost are important in civilian.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine I don't think that these were intended to be 100% interchangeable, like modern magazines are. Get 2-4 per gun that work with that gun and serialize them.
Crud, even the Soviets had a hard time with that, the SVD mags are serialized to the weapon. And that was 1960s/70s!
These are a fascinating dead end in small arms design. Never would have seen them anywhere else propably
1 of 2 in existence? The Fireplace Collector Signal is lit!
Joke’s on us, it came from his collection
Just when you think that Ian could not possibly find anything more strange or interesting after so many years
The progression of rarity and beauty of these manually operated pistol videos is such a treat. I'm in love with the mechanics of them and that brass frame is killer. Thanks Ian for sharing them with us!
I'd love to see the sequential stamping dies they used to make that clip/magazine.
My only wish is for Ian to test fire that impressive piece of history at the gun range. I'm so impressed by the design, planning, forethought, engineering, pioneering, & its development from the ground up. The guy who made this has my respect.
The number of different operating systems for pistols and rifles is just amazing.
Thanks for following up! So many cool ideas in the past.
God bless all here.
This is the coolest pistol I’ve ever seen you show. Man I want one.
That's such a pleasure to look at.
This is definitely the coolest ring trigger gun so far. I would LOVE anyone who decided to make a repro of this. Way too awesome to resist.
It does look really cool.
On a side note:
If it's "REIger" the name is pronounced "RYE-ger"
If it's "RIEger" (which is more common) it's "REE-ger"
Same goes for "Wiener" (correct spelling of the infamous sausage) and "Weiner" (correct spelling for someone that cries a lot).
i'm sorry but do you mean whiner?
@@TaxiServiceMods Weiner = Whiner
Thats the German rule, but was it the same for Austria-Hungary?
@@fortusvictus8297 Yes
Reiger means Heron, it's the same spelling in Dutch. (Reiher in German). And the "rye" version is more correct yeah.
looks in a better shape than the other one .. especially the security lock at the back
This kind of gun really makes me wish there was a vr game with a lot of the obscure and rare firearms featured on this channel in it.
Why do I believe that Ian is planning to make a bid? 1) It has an insane operating mechanism, 2) It was tested by the French, 3) It looks super cool with a highly Steampunk style.
He’s in love. 🤣
something about that sliding panel to load the gun coupled with its over all smooth exterior is giving me major 50's toy gun vibes XD
I love the shape of the clip. It looks beautiful.
Another ring trigger gun?
Ian, you are spoiling us!
Keep it coming.
One of the best and cool vintage revolver, people are very clever those days without internet.
It is pure fantasy, I find it wonderful to be able to see these gems of engineering from other times in these videos.
I wonder if you could make those little "clips" out of plastic? Being it doesn't have to hold pressure like a revolver cylinder, be cool to see a modern interpretation of that mechanism
I don't think it would be very durable. All the friction of the steel hand that rotates the "cylinder" would eventually (maybe quite quickly) wear the back of it. And it would not turn anymore.
@@AxLWake If they're cheap enough, they could be a disposable, one-time-use thing. Run out? Just 3-D print more...
@@AndrewAMartin True. And I think you definitely could use them more than once before they wear out.
@@AxLWake There is "plastic" and "engineering plastic". There are plenty of hard strong plastics that would work and wear well.
@@SteamCrane Yes there are many different kind and quality of plastics. But you generally don't use them in a situation where they have to rub again and again against a steel piece. They WILL wear no matter the quality of it.
This gun is literally awsome. Isn't overly complicated like others manualy operated guns, and is easy to operate. Really shame it didn't catch up.
Thats a really cool innovative design for the time! Almost like a little lever action. Very cool
Потрясающе! Револьвер и пистолет 2 в одном. И внешность - шикарный стимпанк.
This series of weapons has been awesome. Thank you.
Ok i get it ian, the mysterious red table man has given these to RIA and you got your hands on all of his collection
1889 "Jetsons" pistol! Such a lovely looking design & fully thought through too.
Man o Man!!! I Agree Ian! They Need to Repro This Design! Brass & All! This one's Just Absolutely Badass!!.
Cool mechanism in that pistol so old school and very much cool
I love how inventive and weird (in a good way) so many early cartridge firearms are designed. This design in particular is so interesting - from the ring trigger to the open bolt to that cool cylinder-clip. It's like looking at a snapshot of how clever humanity can be when we start forging into new ideas and territory!
I would love to have a working remake of this gun I always love guns with these type of never seen again designs to them
Nice thing about this is that it is effectively a double action, but the actual trigger pull is separated from the cocking movement, so presumably light and precise like a single action. I stand to be corrected as always.
Omg I want a modern firearm like this that would be amazing.
I agree Ian , would love to have a modern made copy of this pistol. One of the coolest firearms ever!
More rotation makes me more interested ! Thanx Ian.
I love these byways of gun development which are always interesting.
This one has fantastic sights especially for the time
I’ve waited 130 years to fire this. Go ahead punk make my day.
The pistols you've been having for the last few episodes are fucking wild
Love to get my hands on this one.
Loving this series!
Thank you for posting this video! It is great to see reviews of these old austrian handguns. You should definitely visit the HGM if you are vistiting vienna. They got a lot of very interesting guns in their collection and maybe you could arrange to make some videos there!
Thank you , Ian .
"Quick change revolver clips"
That reads more like Feinswine legislation!
Were I alive during this period, I'd absolutely carry this.
Even Steampunks wearing stovepipe hats and goggles would look at that gun and say, "it's a little on the nose."
Nah, they'd sniff "Where are the outside gears and pressure gauges? Glue some on."
@J M and gay means fun😉🎩
@@ostiariusalpha thats my biggest gripe with the steampunk aesthetic honestly, i mean, what are all those tiny gears _do?_
@@DH-xw6jp That's not really the genuine Steampunk aesthetic though, it's what you get when people start becoming involved that have no understanding of the Victorian Retrofuturist core of the design philosophy. So they think that just adding goggles and gears and such makes something "Steampunk," when in truth, a sleek repeating pistol like the Reiger is actually what real Steampunk is supposed to look like.
@@ostiariusalpha sure, but the authentic steampunk cosplayers are few and far between.
The more I see this style of pistol, the more I want one
I dont know why but I have a burning need for one of these and a single shot civil war carbine
I need to see an over-the-top Old West movie with all these weird and wonderful revolvers.
I love these weird looking late 19th century sci-fi handguns
SteamPunk/BlackPowderPunk ?
Ian literally has a dream job...
Hey Ian, just wanted to let you know that this is a RIEGER 1889, named after the inventor Erwin Rieger (just looked it up in „Vom Ursprung der Selbstladepistole“). Greetings from Vienna!
Amazing. I can't wait to see how the final one tops this!
That's one elegant handgun.
That's so Powder-Punk! Love it!
Amazing firearm.
What a cool design.
The riser for the elevated rear sight looks like an “almost” modern combat sight and I feel if I were carrying or using one of these pistols, I’d usually employ it in that fashion. I love it! And very Steam or Diesel Punk. 🤘🏻
Awesome videos, I’ve been watching for at least two years 🤘
Ian, thank you. I love your channel.
This is a very cool pistol!! Ian is right about the steam-punk look! It would be fun to shoot if someone reproduced it in this day!
A protagonist steampunk revolverish gun, cool.
That sight.... it's so ahead of it's time!
Somebody needs to get on making a line based off of these!
Hello again and thanks for the video. This gun is beautiful of course and quite interesting. Maybe one of the most interesting I've seen all my life. From the conception, to the materials, I think it is completely incredible. So there are only 2,and nothing is known about the inventor??? 😮😮 I am amazed!! ❤
That is a beautiful gun.
That is freaking cool! You could reload crazy fast. Not quite as fast as a box magazine, but still.
4 dislikes are from the people who tried to chamber the broken cylinder.
This man plays the long dark
Nah. They were just drinking Natty Lite and got pissed because
It wasn’t the “lords caliber”. 😂
@@daathseverus Hehe, good one, Mike!
Wait, which one is it again? The 7,62x39mm, right?
JOKING!!!!! It's .45 Government. pls no #cancel
Forgive me FUDDER, for i have sinned...
insane gun
This thing is so steampunk, I love it.
Yet another WOW gun.... thanks.
The reinvention of the double action revolver, but in a complicated and mechanically weak kind of way. I love it!
An aesthetic leap forward, and two mechanical steps back!
@@littlebigheroman I understand what you are saying but i, personally, can´t agree with your taste in guns, i love the look of a double action revolver. But i fully get what you mean.
@@RiderOftheNorth1968 I love the look of classic revolvers as well, but like Ian I just appreciate less-standardized guns, in a strictly visual sense. The DA revolver is a classic melding of form and function, whereas these archaic, weird prototype guns are more about the feats of engineering and innovative design features you just don't see on many firearms. That being said, I know which I would rather own, because I have a double action revolver in my bedroom end table.
@@littlebigheroman Then we do fully agree with each other! There is a beauty in the "unorthodox" technical sollutions in these kind of guns. That was an epoc of free thinking and an almost naive belief in the Good of inventions. It was like people invented things just because it was possible, not because it was really needed. Both glorious and devastating times, the late 1800s.
That’s very cool. Thank you for sharing with us Ian. I want one. Show it to the guys in khyber pass Afghan, and they can make some lol.
Gotta love austrian inventors. Always doing the vierd.
That is slick. Novel idea.
That is the coolest pistol ever.
I like the look of that one!
So cool! I always wonder what the next evolution in modern firearms will be.
In terms of style, those experimental late black powder "steam punk" guns, are among the coolest ever made.
The mechanism on these bolt action pistols is so cool. I’d love to see a modern iteration of these ideas. Would it work better or more efficiently than current pistols? Not at all, but it would really cool. And come on, we’ve still got revolvers!
Love that thing! Very cool!
Awesome as always