You Can Understand the Old Testament (2 Simple Ideas Help!)
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- This session is from the BibleProject Classroom class Introduction to the Hebrew Bible taught by Dr. Tim Mackie. The entire class is available for free on the BibleProject app at classroom-beta.bibleproject.c....
How can we read the Old Testament and understand the meaning its ancient authors intended?
These two simple ideas are at the core of the process.
1. The Old Testament is an ancient text.
2. A text is intentional literary communication.
We interpret every text we read through the lens of our mental storehouse, or the "encyclopedia" of words, ideas, images, and stories stowed in our memories. But the biblical authors have their own encyclopedias from which they produce texts. So if we want to understand the authors' intended meaning, we will adapt our “encyclopedia of reception” by learning about the authors' “encyclopedia of production.” Dive into this class session with Dr. Tim Mackie and start developing tools for encountering the Old Testament on its own terms.
thank you Lord for this group of people who help us understand your word better!
Huge shoutout to the people responsible for the audiovisual design of these classroom videos! Everything from the materials and lighting used in the set to the notecards on the screen to the color of clothing worn by each of the participants shows the same level of artistic care and attention to detail you see in all Bible Project’s animated videos. It just puts you in a relaxed and contemplative mood that makes the deep literary and theological content so much easier to process. Very well done!
Well-said!
Well said!
Yes! Agreed!!!
I know for me, every time I read scripture I learn something new. I grow in my love and understanding.
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How are you doing ?
Love the indepth ways you introduce the Bible to new readers. 💜
The Bible as an Ancient Text: To approach the Bible as an ancient text, he suggests readers adopt a new sensitivity, striving to understand and respect the cultural and historical context in which it was written.
Texts are Intentional: He emphasizes the importance of attentive and reflective reading, recognizing that each element of the Bible was carefully chosen and placed with purpose, urging readers to seek the intentional meaning behind each word and structure.
I'm soo humbled by these courses. Thank you Tim, for putting these in a language that I can understand. Something that always astonished me was my parents education, they were both raised in Mexico by Catholic parents. But, neither of them went beyond elementary school education. When they came to the Lord, as adults the Lord does something amazing in their understanding of the Bible, with limited reading and writing abilities. It educated both of my parents, to the point that, by the time I was an adult child, 1 of 14 by the way. We could have a proper conversation about what the Lord would reveal to them by His word. My Dad's daily routine, would be to come from work and take a break from His day and sit on his couch to read and pray. My mom's routine was getting everyone ready for the day and then getting into her reading time as well. And everytime they would be transformed; mentally, spiritually, even physically (for my Healing ministry friends 🤗). It was as if they never aged.
Oh what a beautiful thing 😭 Thank you for sharing and thank God for creating us for this relationship with Him and eachother!
These videos are so good. I grew up in the church, and I have been a believer since when I was eight. I yearn for understanding so I say thank you for this videos.
Wow! I've been reading the Bible for years, and you've given me a new way to approach it! Thank you!
This channel is so important
Tim has a very nice voice!!! God bless all of you !!!
I am an Indian and while I do not particularly appreciate the guy mentioning Bollywood songs as “ridiculous” things, I do appreciate Tim’s maturity in explaining the cultural context of things.
Thank you all for the work you do to help us all better understand the Bible, the care you put into this in itself is inspirational. Thank God for you all and the work He's doing through you, and then through the people that learn from what you've shown!
Hi everyone, May the Lord bless you from Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic! I really love this video!
Thank you always for your videos ❤
the pop up charts are very helpful
Excellent eye opening discussion. 🙏🏾
Trevor Noah was talking about how his mother always sends him spriture. He was amazed that she reads the Bible all the time and always find something new. I pray to be like that
I’ve been using classroom for quite some time and consider it to be a gift and blessing. The way in which Tim gets me listening and greening new understanding is wonderful. The interaction with the students who are there is great for us who are watching as students as well. The coursework and provided materials make the experience that much better. Thank you so much to all who put this together and share, may God bless you richly!
Guys, set a time through the next 2 months to go through this course!
It's amazing, I'm going half way through and its so exiting to learn about the Bible this way!
Unlearning what we think we already know, is like being reborn, over and over again.
Scripture may imply a certain meaning at a certain time of my life and something completely different in another situation that I find myself in. The Holy Spirit works in a wonderful way and can guide and lead you to great understanding if one will seek Him out and listen to the guidance that He provides.
I read the Bible nightly and presently on my 3d. reading. Original Bible was written in Aramaic, Hebrew, Greek, etc. and there are words in those languages that we do not share in English. I have always felt if I were fluent (and I am Jewish) in Hebrew I could better understand the Bible. Reading the entire Bible the first time I do not feel it is possible for anyone to understand. I am only beginning to get it on don't get bored with what I can't understand. And culturally over 2000 years ago so very different. I remember in college studying "history" professor told me we don't read and study like we do other disciplines and I got to thinking about that. Gods words tells stories and the use of parables, and it is ALL connected.
Another light of wisdom turned thanks it's truly a new perspective.
This was so eye opening! Thank you!
God and Jesus love y’all Amen keep working 🙏✝️❤️
great discussion! I am really enjoying these deep dives into how to explore the Bible more authentically!
Thank u for ur ministry brother!
Thank our God forever❤❤❤❤God , teach us how to study your bible properly and gracefully❤Hallelujah
Vídeos like that makes the bible more easy to undustand
I would like to see the same type of vídeo but about the New testament
Thank you for uploading this
Nice for them all Tim.
I thank God for this conversation ❤
God bless you.
Just thank you. You really are making a big difference to our understanding
God bless you for making Robert Alter palatable. I read both his The Art of Biblical Poetry and The Art of Biblical Narrative, and the guy likes using big words and big sentence for the sake of using big words and big sentences.
I lobe the way that Dr. Tim Mackie presents the context of the hewbrew Bible. I continue to do the Bible project classroom. I'm not a student of seminary, but I would lobe the opportunity and this is the closest I get, by these videos and the application, because to use Dr. Tim Mackie's words. I am a Bible nerd and I love to learn I depth by text and secular view as well as for my faith in and in depth fashion. Again thank you all at Bible project for all you do and give out to people.
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*The problem with that is the Hebrew scriptures and all other languages were supernaturally changed, including all of the ancient manuscripts and every reference book on Earth. The good news is that you can still find out what used to be written by researching (supernatural bible changes) before the enemy cuts the lights. Then Amos **8:12** will be fulfilled and you will not find God's word ANYWHERE! You've been warned...*
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I think some of these comments must be trolling. Thank you Tim and Jon for all of your videos. I love this different format.
I wish Tim were teaching local to me, he'd have to keep his skateboard nearby to escape my questions 🥳 Eventually he'd just wack me with a stick, tell me to go read it 100 more times and meditate so I could explain it to him next week 😭🤓🤠
Amo este formato, si pudieran hacer los mismo en el español, me encanta vere estas clase en lo que entiendo de los subtítulos, si también pudieran hacer los podcast con videos MP4, así sea las personas hablando o mostrar gift entre la grabación ❤
No way, gotta read the entire thing. It's all linked up like crazy these Jews CAN WRITE 🤩
Can you please do this 3days darkness.
The prophecy foretells three days and nights of "an intense darkness" over the whole earth, against which the only light will come from blessed beeswax candles, and during which "all the enemies of the Church ... will perish." The prophecy parallels the Ten Plagues against Egypt in the Book of Exodus (Ex. 10:21-29).
Love the bollywood analogy, it brings the message closer
I like the new hair cut 👍
Yay! 💖
1 - it's written by and for a nation of people, who were chosen by the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
2 - If I or someone else considers themself a foreigner, adopting these laws and statutes will allow me or them to sojourn with that nation. Just as a foreigner would need to get naturalized in order to become American.
As a child, I didn't know these two things so I had no idea what I was reading in Ruth and why it was even in the Bible.
Thanks for this!
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A part of the last question that didn't get addressed is what is the role of the Holy Spirit in bridging that gap?
These guys are brilliant and have brought me closer to Jesus... But will somebody PLEASE help Tim STOP SAYING UM!?
Me gustaría en español la explicación gracias bendiciones
We have access to the author, and His name is Jesus, through the Holy Spirit. His words are in the four Gospels, as well throughout the Bible. And there aren't any culture boundaries going on, because what was happening then, is happening now. Even over here...
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Interpreting scripture is like trying to develop a coherent philosophy from a series of anecdotes.
Am I not allowed to sleep Tim.
The context for each and every passage of scripture is the entire Bible.
17:30 Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
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I was just 24 Tim.
Maybe you can include the importance of the Holy Spirit in interpreting scripture. Without Him we are all lost. Revelation is key.
Sounds a lot like the Catholic understanding the literal sense---that which is inspired in the Bible is the author's intention in writing the text, and any spiritual senses build off of that literal sense. For much of the Bible, this is an historical rendering, but for certain passages this is not certain, and even in the historical passages we should expect that events are compressed or rearranged in a non-chronological ordering.
This is a great way to explain big theological terms of hermeneutics like the historical-grammatical method of interpretation. Also exegesis vs eisegesis - not putting our encyclopedias in place of the biblical authors' encyclopedias.
What computer Bible study resource does Tim use?
Since the Bible was written with the inspiration of God, don't you think the Bible was written with an absolute universal approach, free from cultural, social, political and geographical bounds?
I think no, because as humans it’s very difficult to remove those “bounds” in us. If God needed us to be like that all the time, he would have almost no one to work with
Please pray for my family. My husband of 27 years committed adultery. My whole family discovered their affair on our FAMILY VACATION!
Omg I'm so sorry. That is a horrible pain. I had my wife do the same. It was awful pain. I'm so sorry
I am so sorry to hear that. May you lean on God through the difficult time.
Nothing is important to God pray to Him He will change him but sorry for that is painful
Wait, Tim! Are you trying to offend half your audience with that Marvel Universe joke? 😅 Clearly, you haven’t seen some of the best they have to offer (Winter Soldier, Guardians 1, Ragnarok, Infinity War and End Game- just to make a few. Now if you are talking about the last two years, you may have a point.
I love the example given about the cultural tropes of Bollywood movies. I have learned so much about the Old Testament simply from deepening my friendships with my Hindu friends. Many of their cultural practices in the Bible are still being practiced today in India. It is fascinating. Those friendships have helped me understand our Eastern Holy Book a little better.
Hebrews 4:12 implies that the Bible is a literary Rorschach test.
I believe...
(Sorry Brethren, for the VERY long "comment". But I believe it NEEDS to be espoused)
The Old Testament, from what I have read (All of it), and heard it narratived KJV (ALL of it)...and another narrative in the NIV; that I believe, it can be understood. IF one gets on their knees; and sincerely prays to Jesus ONLY; for Him to help them to undersand the OT.
And Better: Pray sincerely, to Jesus for "Wisdom, Understanding and the Truth". Because Jesus is the ONLY "inerrant and infallibe" Being, there wil ever be. Praise Jesus. And IF one does not have Jesus' Holy Spirit guiding them; satan will laugh them to the end of the world. Oh yes, but very sad.
Because satan has promulated over 45,000 different Denominations; all over the world. And most of them say, 'We are Right and the others are Wrong! Because. WE get OURS from the bible!". How foolish and silly is that! May Jesus have mercy.
And IF any Born Again Christian (that is a MUST first) wants to know the truths about anything; they MUST pray to Jesus (as above). Or they will just make another satan's Denomination. Sad, Sad and SAD! May Jesus have mercy.
So, back to understanding the OT...and you are Born Again Christian (NOT just a Christian); and you have prayed to Jesus ONLY; for those 3 must requirements; you will find things you have never seen or heard. Sad, but true. And good for them. Believe me. For it took 75 yrs of my 91 Yrs to realize; that IF I want true Understanding; I must go to Jesus...
So, the OT is broken into two major 2,000 "periods". The first 2,000 yrs was taken up with God's Creation, the Adam and Eve sins, and causing an incredible population in the world.
And 1,600 yrs in...God had to kill EVERY living creature (they are called Antediluvians) in the world; EXCEPT for 8 adult people...Noah, his wife; and His 3 sons and their wives. And for the nect 400 yrs; God let the earth repopulate, like it was. That takes us to the second 2,000 yrs.
(Remember their was NO commandments during the first 2,000 yrs.)
But beginning that 2,000 yrs; God created some unbelievable MAJOR "ways"; for man to live by loving others, etc! Like the Righteous Abraham.
And God gave incredible, awesome blessings and 10 Commandments, with Moses. Unbelivable! And God told Abraham: that He would bless them until the end of the world. And they would populate like the "Sands in the Sea". And the "Stars in the Sky"!
And so; that they wouldn't have another: satan-led, Godless Chicaneries, like Adam and Eve...and the Antediluvians...He gave Moses another 603 Commandments. That covered every "iota" of Life. Oh indeed. Praise God.
And Abraham's descendants were to be "Ambassodors" to the world. And God created 12 Tribles. That would cover the whole world; witnessing them to become the Abraham ways. And those tribes would be Forever. Praise God.
But, sad indeed...that NEVER came to fruition; to this day. But God tried; every thing He could do; to get them to be Righteous. But, sadly satan won. And by the last days of that 2,000 yrs; God's patiences...had ended.
And that takes us to the NT (and another 2,000 yrs). Where Jesus; IS the "Laws" through Faith IN Jesus. But that is for another time; and another satan-led, Godless Chicaneries, all over again. Sad but OH so True.
End of Story, and I rest me case...
In any case Brethren, Please Pray OFTEN and Praise Jesus OFTEN; for He is the ONLY true "God Almighty"; there will ever have been. And may Jesus bless you and yours always. AMEN!
🙏🏻❤️ Matthew 11:25, John 3:3, Hosea 14:9, Proverbs 9:10
Amen, amen and AMEN! For without wisdom, understanding and the truths from Jesus only; there is nothing but satan and his Chicanery of LIES and Hell...
So the secret...is to become closer and closer to Jesus; who is the only True God Almighty, there ever be. Sadly, I did not realize that; until I reached the age 75 yrs of my 91 yrs, of Christianity. But thank Jesus that I finally took it all to Him. Praise His Holy name.
Thanks Almond, for your great reply. I love those 4 verses you wrote. And may Jesus bless you and yours always.
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There are opposite dangers. One is thinking that it is necessary to be an expert to understand the Old Testament. I believe that a sincere but naive reader will learn from reading the text and be drawn closer to God. We have more than the text! We have the Spirit. The opposite danger is to think that paying attention to the literary features adds nothing to our understanding nor our connection to God. I learned something helpful and true about cells when I studied them in science class in 1965 in my youth. But it would be silly for me to insist that I have no more to learn.
There is actually an oral tradition that descends from that authors, so, you don’t have to depend on the text alone if you talk to those who are raised in that tradition.
Looney Tunes was way before the Simpsons!!! Porky Pig, etc.😅🤣😂
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Yeah.... To summarize The Old Testament....
1: Man Fell
2: God chooses broken sinful people to carry out his will, and they still mess up.
3: God's chosen people keep backsliding due to sin, and God punishes them repeatedly, then forgives them, then the cycle continues; Sin, punishment, repentance, forgiveness. Repeat.
4: A promised messiah will come.... for EVERYONE.
The Bible was written by Jews to Jews Yeshua is a Jew and a rabbi and the son of God & our Lord and Saviour. We as gentiles we're drafted in acts 11 I'm soooo grateful for the bible hallelujah
I'm that alien cause I haven't watched TV in decades and have no idea who anyone is or what they're talking about and then people look at me like I'm insane for not caring about the Kardashians and I really don't think I'm the one that has lost their mind 🤔😬🧐
The Narrow Gate
13 “You can enter God’s Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell[f] is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way. 14 But the gateway to life is very narrow and the road is difficult, and only a few ever find it.
The Tree and Its Fruit
15 “Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep but are really vicious wolves. 16 You can identify them by their fruit, that is, by the way they act. Can you pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 A good tree produces good fruit, and a bad tree produces bad fruit. 18 A good tree can’t produce bad fruit, and a bad tree can’t produce good fruit. 19 So every tree that does not produce good fruit is chopped down and thrown into the fire. 20 Yes, just as you can identify a tree by its fruit, so you can identify people by their actions.
True Disciples
21 “Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. 22 On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ 23 But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’
+1 for the burn on the woke, repetitive Marvel universe :)
I am pretty sure it's not a theoretical accident but with some encouragement. Actually it's more of a people of like mindedness reinforcing the theory. That is normal so I don't have to explain.. but I am not blaming anyone but just want people to actually understand the concept. Chinese use this Phrase "Tung Sing Luen" double meaning. Can be the same sex but also can be the same Surname.... Given my understanding of the two interrelated surnames, yeah it's pretty unique and totally out of expectation, but not too wild to not understand. So the uniqueness is about just how two cultures look at father figures and what they represented. I am Simpson and also The Gildbergs.. very funny.
Does this group in any way support the lgbtq++++++ community?
Old Testament is easy.
Don't take 10 years to browse through the bullet points lackadaisacally, actually read the entire bible multiple times in a year and research everything you have questions with. It's cohesive if you obsessively read it in a short amount of time, check chronology charts, take notes, read study guides about specific books..... study like any other passion.
People are so strange. Always self obsessed. As soon as someone starts speaking I'm thinking "DID YOU REALLY JUST SAY THAT. MORE CONTEXT. OH NO. DON'T CALL ME EVER AGAIN" 😂
How did King Saul die? Which of the 4 verses is the real one?
1SA 31:4-6 Saul killed himself by falling on his sword.
2SA 1:2-10 Saul, at his own request, was slain by an Amalekite.
2SA 21:12 Saul was killed by the Philistines on Gilboa.
1CH 10:13-14 Saul was slain by God.
Remember God is not the author of confusion. 1 Corin 14:33
1 Peter 3:15 says always give an answer.
1 Thess 5:21 says prove all things.
So please give me the real answer as the bible instructs you to do so.
I am Jewish and you should read the Jewish Bible and not the English translation.. That way you will understand the words better :)
Ah! idioms, prejudices and deliberate mistranslations ... My favorite is the mistranslation of the name James ... which just happens to be the name of the King (of England) that organized or at least authorized the KJV ... LOL ... sorry but I laugh every time I see the name James.
you are saved by faith not works grace not law least any man boast read paul romans
I think they were mixing ancients with modern. I don't think we were slaves but actually working normally. Maybe it's like slaving away, not real slaves.
Explain to us about theft Tim abuse.
That was hard to follow.
The biblical authors wrote with the expectation that their readers (and hearers) were very familiar with the language being used and the religious, social, cultural, geo-political and historical context of the day (ancient to us but current to them) in which the literature was being written. So, the more familiar one is with the original language(s) of the bible and the biblical, historical setting and context (religious views, social and cultural practices and ideas, geo-politics of the day, etc.), the better that person will understand what the biblical authors were trying to communicate. The less one knows about those things, the more difficult the bible becomes to readily and clearly understand due to a lack of linguistic and contextual understanding. That is my take away for what it's worth.
*It's so sad to know how many are trying to study God's word who will never get to read what He actually said now because they refuse to investigate the supernatural scripture changes that were made in recent years. In case anyone truly wants to know what was written when our bibles were still Holy, type in 'proof of bible change residue junkie'. Virtually everyone else will learn about this standing at the Gate...*
You keep making that false claim
Fine tuning is fine but uts more abiut my family and relatives reconciliation given they seem to be a bunch of unknowing actors.. And I still have to exist and nit Written off dir 20 over years. Gosh. Cant change the pass but we still have future to see the world i. It's real dorm not fantasy from news which also are inaccurate. So generally the ayatem stopped. Yeah goldilock. It means locking it in olace and ending.
Yeah I also don't understand if people can't actually meet and sit in front together to fine-tune. I am sure Jewish would have a role and some understanding but not clear how they are related.
I am sure they have good intentions but I am just not clear why they in one hand can reject the messiah but on the other hand, keep waiting for one to come to BE. I am sure another choosy bunch, like Christians, is definitely not chanced because even Chinese name is in the narrative but not explicitly clear. And the Chinese saying also is reflective of the construction of idioms and reflective if pass and present.
It's fate but planned story and uts to allow people around the western world to actually just understand the gravity of their theology and what they want to conclude themselves. I can't force them but at least they have something to work on. It's called soul searching.
Actually I was questioning the idea that there is actual gold in the reserves. Are we propagating a false narrative or we really have it, just no one knows where it is kept?
It's the earth moving around the sun and the moon is moving around the earth. So when an eclipse is seen we can know the exact measurements of the size of the heavenly body. In relationship to each other comparatively.
We xan discuss on Blockchain then. If not its forever hidden. We need liquidity and problem solving of financial system. The whole world is now totally ONE human that has nothin to do wuth the aystem but still a functional human that can help aolce the conundrum nit based in theory but actual purposeful.
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It's like Danielle Steele Writing the Bible..
He has no 💡 idea cause Jesus only gave his doctrine to Apostles prophet's who are the head of the churches..The old testament you have to unlock it by breaking the parable open which is the seed and it's not just receiving conceive the seed but to get it's heavenly meaning as parables is a earthly understanding as his doing making him serve Satan dead letter history book lesson Romans 7 Spirit gives life these are the heavenly meaning the mysterious of the kingdom that's what a parable means: earthly story heavenly meaning and comparison parabolic symbolic:Like Sheep were sacrifice old testament? Now Jesus calls you a sheep? So you can be sacrificed his still a sheep he is still veiled rom 12:1-2 if the gospel veiled it's veiled to those who are perishing cor 4;3 this grace that was given to me Paul said by revelation heavenly meaning not a story Jesus lived in you and his the word and wants to put his sperma in your soul which is feminine a women symbolic to eve Spirit musculine husband Christ this is the process in you becoming the second Adam seed in greek means sperm KOINONIA WITH CHRIST spirit going into you changing you be transformed by the renewal of your mind how when you listen to this teach the dead letter Jesus a story hello church wake up Jesus even said the letter gives death his doing it here he faces the highest judgement WHITEWASH TOMBS they look beautiful on the outside innocent but inside they are wicked cause he is teaching souls in error this here does nothing just man's wisdom dead letter Jesus a story so you stay the same through the cross you washed by revelation process as Jesus said to Peter let me wash you all you won't inherit the kingdom of God✨The blood is the mysterious of scripture revelation 💫 symbolic these people need Apostle a father who head of the church not a pastor cause they don't know how to unlock the old testament which means Christ conceal to reveal Christ in you new testament..🙏
I read the Old Testament and didn't like it. It was too barbaric and contained too many contradictions. I prefer the Natural world that surrounds me for the truth.
What of the New Testament?
And for the Old, sure, there’s a lot of nasty stuff that happens in it, but Jesus Christ later admits a lot of the ancient law was due to the hardness of the hearts of the people God promised to make a covenant with.
The point Jesus Christ is referring to specifically at the time is having two wives. This, He condemns.
My point is that there’s more to the Old Testament than meets the eye.
Revolutionary ideas.
I can not believe she actually said that.................
Its called discernment by the Authority of the Holy Spirit..
Got to go
I am gay and i will sgukl be gay. So thats no need ti be fine tuned. and the Bible can't be transcenden given the eastern interpretation and western ones totally opposite understanding.
If you want the bible to make sense, ask the Holy Spirit. Not this Tim or anybody else. John 14:26.
Yawn.
No one in premillennialism can understand the OT.