Hillsong: The Money Machine (A Current Affair)
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- Brilliantly informative "A Current Affair" report on the odd tax history and business dealings of the world famous pentecostal Hillsong Church....or is it Hillsong Cult?
Brian Houston has alot of questions to Answer. $50 milion dollars, yet only $5 million apparently going to charity work.... another great report by ACA. You can als see last year's "Tommy Davis is missing" Scientology report on my channel.
The "Church" is about to open a new facility in Melbourne sometime this year. When it does I may make a video on it.
P.S. I love their music though, honestly who doesn't? Even got two of their better albums, "Mighty to Save" and "God He Reigns". Chalk it up to "a guilty pleasure".
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Report was originally broadcast: 18/2/2013.
Reuploaded because youtube cutoff the last 2 minutes(?)
ACA have done a "sequel report" which is more up to date for 2015:
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In my opinion, "The Church Of The Almighty Dollar".
I would rather go to a real true biblical church in a mud hut, then go here and listen to the doctrine of devils. The pastor has already said that islam and christianity pray to the same God. Christianity and Islam are vastly different. Allah is not the God of the Bible. Allah is the moon God. Listen to what Lord says in Revelations Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
@@TheZealousNobleman So many things right.
MONEY MONEY MONEY JUST SHOW ME THE MONEY AND ILL TELL YOU ANYTHING . LONELY GULLIBLE PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.
My dad was a full time pastor for 30 years and never got a penny from church and was traveling to other churches for his own expenses! He had full time job and always worked hard to feed his family !
Tacoma FAN Most of them are hard workers feeding their families. Hillsong and other "Mega-Churches" are the odd ones out.
Tacoma FAN may God bless his beautiful soul🙏🏿
Tacoma FAN : Hmm never heard of Pastor without salary.
Our Church pays salary to all our Pastors.
Tacoma FAN That my friend is a true man of GOD. Its very rare to find Pastors with qualities like your Dad. May The HOlY GOD Bless your Dad and Family.
Unicorn Bunny. Many Pastors are bi-vocational
The point is that the money is going to personal accounts and enriching the lifestyle of those inside the Church leadership. This makes it technically a "Profit organization" and therefore it should be taxed. In order to be eligible for tax breaks, you need to be a "Non-Profit" organization. Thay means NO personal revenue beyond a reasonable operational cut for work rendered.
This is extremely incorrect
Yup and it’s disgusting
They’re a registered 501c organization, which is non-profit.
You cannot love God and Money -Luke 6:1:
I am an Aussie, born and bred. WHAT ever happened to "SEPARATION of CHURCH AND STATE? It's UNCONSTITUTIONAL to NOT TAX these frauds.
welp! when you're off with the prime minister Scott Morrison you do what you want!!
Money is power. That's the reason why government doesn't let churches to pay taxes. Because the church will start to influence government policies. This is because historically the church was a very powerful organization. Imagine the church influencing government policies?
I agree with the Reverend that all the donated money should go back to aiding society and exposing corruption. That Hillsong has zero fruits, you shall know them for their fruits.
This prosperity Gospel is not biblical. Jesus would literally be flipping tables in these kind of churches! But could you use a less educated person to interview. Her explanation on the 10% was ridiculous.
The kingdom of God is Inside you and all around you not from buildings of wood and stone split a piece of wood I'm there lift a stone and you'll find me, you don't need to see this people for a blessing and pay a lot of money to for it, your faith is what God wants and your belief in him :)
Spot on... I'm ashamed I used to be in the word of faith/prosperity churches for 30 years. Thankfully I've woken up and gone straight back to scripture and the truth. People are so naive and follow personalities instead of God. I used to be like that, used to naively think everything I was taught from the pulpit was true. I grew up in that church so I didn't really know better until I got real sick and noticed things weren't right.
It's taken me along time to see this reality.God forgive these people.
@GodBotherer1 amen
She relayed what they believe and/or tell you. It is not her personal view. She was asked by the interviewer what their concept is behind it. You are more focused on criticism than listening. Probably something you need to think about generally.
2,000 years ago there was a guy who owned nothing except the cloths on his back, the one time he is known to have used a mode of transport other than his own feet he borrowed that ride he never owned it and did not want to. He preached love and forgiveness and shunned greed and chastised greedy men.
I see all these Mega churches today and try to reconcile the huge difference between them and the man they claim to represent. There is no reconciliation they have nothing in common with him.
What gets to me more, are the show off "worship" musicians. They're a bunch of show offs, feed my ego. God HATES the proud. I've seen it in so many churches, same old same old, they don't fool me. Get rid of the stage, get rid of the lights, put the rock group out of site - then we'll see how many of them still want to play?? And all these mega churches all have the "right looking" people in these bands, the hip, the good looking, it goes on and on.... Nauseating.
Truth Seeker show off musicians-)). Ask me about it all. Try calling them to a small church and you can see the airs.
No grace, no love.
THESE MEGA CHURCHES ARE ALL GOING TO FALL!!!
But when
My husband and I were Pastors of a church for 10 yrs. We never got paid. We served heart and soul and never regret the time spent pastoring. It’s remarkable how many churches believe you must give to get blessed. We give out of obedience, not to receive and get blessings back.
I may be a Catholic, but I think the Lord is calling you to be a Pastor again. Need more like you in every Christian Denomination. Amen
I went with some high school friends when I was 15, I was heavily into gigs and music, and they duped me into going to this "awesome"rock event with moshing etc. I was sooo disapointed as I realised they were trying to recruit me to Hillsong. The Father of my friend who drove us even asked me before I got dropped off home If i would convert, i'm Catholic btw. Anyway, When It came to the money buckets coming around they crapped on for about 15 min about how you should "give from the heart" etc. The buckets went around about 3 or 4 times and I felt uncomfortable because I didn't bring any money with me. At my local catholic church the Priest doesn't say anything about money, the baskets just get passed around and we sing a song.
Stupidly I wrote down my home and phone details to Hillsong. My mum would tell me that Hillsong would call constantly for Tithes during school hours. My mum got so mad one day and said to the Hillsong caller "My daughter is 15, and you are harassing her for money. If you call again I'll call the Police and report you for soliciting money off a minor" They never rang again. I now actually work right next door to Hillsong oddly enough, when there is a function on during the week, the traffic is horrendous. Takes you 30 minutes to drive less than a kilometer. I hate Hillsong. They should get taxed.
I am so sorry for your family's experience of that place. It sounds utterly evil and certainly seemed like the enemy was trying to steal from your family. Tithing during school hours? that is disturbing.
I’ve only had a positive experience from Hillsong. It’s my home church but what they did to you was very wrong! That’s not okay. They’re supposed to use those details to support you which is what my campus did. 🥺
@@MegaShae11 you’ll learn the truth one of these days
Hill song casino 👁 fleecing the sheep, don't you know the house always wins baby 🤣
"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God." - Jesus (Matthew 19:24)
The question is rich in what?
Anneke Crouse the eye of a needle, was not an actual needle but the entrance to the market place were goods were sold so shut the fuck up
I think its pretty obvious what it means
No, Jesus is LITERALLY saying that it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle then for a rich man to enter into the kingdom.
yeah, you dont read or understand the Bible. what type of question is that
Indeed it is a
Dangerous Cult Hillsong! Parents hide the kids! 💀😲
I’ve only ever had a positive experience with Hillsong 😊 but I don’t deny people an become corrupt
@@MegaShae11 What you have experience at Hillsong is just that an experience. The question is what have you learned Biblically
Hellsong 😕
When a church makes a profit...
Looks like a new Joel osteen!!!
Just live a righteous life according to the Bible, be led by the Holy Spirit and God will love you.
It’s not about money, period !
Hillsong is all about money
The Bible is not righteous, apparently you think slavery and prostitution is righteous, have you read the damn book ?
They should invite Pastor John MacArthur from Grace Church to preach the real Gospel
Pay taxes! Most churches I've seen and been to struggle like hell to just stay open. You know what these mega churches could help the smaller ones that struggle so they don't close all the time! Show the world that you're 'supposed' to be united!
Good point. Very good.
"Cain killed Able because he wasn't tithing" That's the biggest damn lie I've heard in a long time. Shame on Hillsong!
if someone at hillsong did say this it's obviously taken grossly out of context ... or else they simply made it up for the report ... I'd be very surprised if this was official hillsong teaching since churches like this pride themselves on being scriptural accurate
KeepItSimple Cain killed Able because he was jealous,cause God favoured Able ,God saw into Cain and Able harts
lol I've sung their songs in church for 20 years most of it is straight out of the KJV ! ... there's plenty of prosperity scriptures in the bible - it's quite clear that god want's us to be able to pay our bills and have money for good works - it sounds to me like you have done more of watching muck like this report rather than actually studying the word of god.
@@rainrainwebdesign you were watching the same muck.
OK the lady got the tithe & offering wrong big deal it was an offering if you read scripture God was looking for a blood sacrifice for the remittance of their sin. Able provided the sacrifice & Able failed, any way that women was not pat of Hillsong leadership she was a only a church attendee. Not all who attend church know every answer often they fail to do their own word studies.
Depart from Me. I never knew you.
It’s a cult
Dang... I don’t know what to think. I love Hillsong’s music, but now I feel like they are hypocrites
and a pedophile child sex trafficking cult, NEXT CASE
00:36 - 0041 "Money is a corrupting thing; and the love of money destroys families, it destroys homes (so you need to send your excess My way, where I can channel it into My tax-free salary growth schemes)"
An entertainment center
Wolf in sheep's clothing...
Matthew 6 ; 3 But when you give to charity, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, Now then, how do you fulfill this scripture if you are tithing in the church? It says in Acts chapter 4 that people put their money at the apostles feet and they gave to those who had need. Doesn't say anything about taking up a collection.
I dont get the point of this. Of course the money should be tax free, because its a gift. All those believers giving the money by their own will. Regardless what Hillsong is or what they are doing. If someone gives another person money without a offered service no doubt it should be tax free.
There's no true gospel in Hillsong preaches now...If there were in the past, now that's all gone. Hillsong, as I see it, is a bussiness more than a church.
A business? Its Theft!
8:48 The definition of gullible.
Tithing was a tax on Israel to help support the Levitical priests. Paul's teaching in the New Testament says to give according to your heart and conscience. You can give as much or as little as you want. The modern church has takin Christians back to the law instead of living under grace and freedom.
very true!
True - So when pastors tell us we need to tithe, we should tell them that they need to go back and live like the Levites did - not being able to own property, etc.
This principle is taught by Paul in the new testament. Pretty much a "pay where you are fed" kinda of thing. He is not requiring the Phillipians or other people he ministers to to pay a 10% tithe to him but rather give according to your heart. A percentage should not be the standard of giving. If you want to give a little then you can, if you want to give a lot then you can. Its up to you. We are not under the yolk of the law.
So why did Abraham tithe?????
He was born before the law
@@robert-williamevans3347 That was a choice he made.
Also see Bethel Church in Redding.
An entertainment centre and social club in the guise of being Christian.This is not true Christianity.....not one bit of it.
yes. it. is. your denial is hilarious though!
And as long as the happy clappy current PM is wielding his special brand of power......nothing will change in regards to Hillsong....or any other Pentecostals......
Hills ongoing counts on people being biblically illiterate.
5 years ago when l stumbled on Hillsong, l got into an idea about getting my music off the ground there at first. But then l saw Mr Houston's mouth move like a relentless one-track snake, l saw imaginary horns on his head & l smelt his fruit decay in his greedybox of which is not for giving back to the community after having been given. Houston is...yep...both Homer's employer's & Scrooge McDuck's mate.
I pity him on the day on the day of judjement
CRETIN
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I dont care to see how much anyone makes. I care if the church edifies and if i am growing in my own spiritual life. God who is in control sees all things. Let God be the judge. To envy or compare is not of God. Nor is slander. Dont you TRUST God to deal with everyone according to His perfect measure. He is not to be mocked. He allows and disallow for reasons beyond our understandings. Let them be..You follow God.
I can't wait until we start locking loonies like you up for believing in such nonsense.
The god you talk about doesn't seems to be the one I know. In that case, there is more than just one god and they are not all equal.
The bible says contend my word
Ashley Tkl amen lol I shall. I love Hillsong. God still moves through His people. Just like with the nation of Israel not everyone was truly devoted to God but there were some who were.
Ashley Tkl , no offense but that’s an effortless response and an irresponsible or complacent attitude toward the teachings you hear.
Paul encourages the Bereans to go home, read scripture and see if his message lined up with Gods message. If it did, come hear more...if not, come back with stones.
We ARE to be critical in the sense, we see if scripture beaters out the message.
@xxzzxx99 The $55 million was revenue gained in Australia alone. Their overseas operations didn't figure into it. listen more carefully to the report.
Mammon is their GOD
Wow.... that's a pretty frank point. And Im not necessarily disagreeing with you!
AND MOLOCH
As a Christian myself, Hillsong Church and all churches needs to pay taxes and no find schemes and show integrity with their actions! HELPING the sick who cannot pay for basic needs like medical care bills, housing and food! I wont give money to churches like Hillsong because they dont give anything back directly to people in their own congregation (even though money is to God through people). Christian or not, people are evil!
Lol, if yoii think he's only getting the 150 , your pretty deluded...
Tithing isnt the problem, its the leadership. They should be telling the people where its going to, annual budget. However, with "a church " this big, where is the accountability? Looks like there is none. That's the problem with mega "churches"..sad people get duped by the experience versus read bible and discern.
I heard from a reliable source, my own church inherited 1/2 mill. I stopped tithing to them and give directly to missionaries, or ministries I can trust. It's still unto God. He knows.
I left going to Sunday church in New Zealand as the congregation was constantly asked to give, give, give n give.
it is a business FIRST sooo ...
1 Corinthians chapter 9 discusses the rights of an Apostle. Verse 14 says those who preach the gospel should receive their living from doing so.
My guess is Paul’s context was not saying we should have multi-millionaire pastors flying around in their G5s and everything else they acquire which gives the impression they are storing up their treasure here on earth.
Like someone said a long time ago, ‘I don’t know what porn is, but I know it when I see it’
Likewise, I don’t know what is too much, but I know it when I see it, and these mega ‘pastors’ fleecing their flock will be accountable to our Father in Heaven on the last day.
I feel the I’m in the wrong business anyone likes To Start a new church
Entertainment "church". It bothers me that churches have become theaters, and the ministers, and musicians full blown celebrities and "stars". Seems more like idol worship than Jesus worship.
It was lovely to see that smaller church feeding those people. I always remember the old lady in the Bible at the Temple putting her penny in, all she had in. If I'm honest with myself it makes me ashamed with my giving, though many Christians may also feel this way, and would be convicted to do something earnestly. The Pharisees probably felt blessed with their tithing, however if one wants to tithe for the Lord im sure it will be a blessing. To give anything out of Love for the Lord, tithe or not a tithe, like that smaller Church was giving to the homeless, is not just 'giving', it is 'love'. Real love can be measured! Real Love for Christ is measurable as it says in the book of James.
Lucifer was the arch angel of music. He is smart and crafty and knows the word of God in a manner that we cannot fathom. Moreover, he minipulates the Word to confound man. To this day he constructs beautiful song and melodic spirit moving music, as it is literally what he was created to do. He the serpent is a man charmer; beguiling man from the beginning by twisting the truth and using his forked tongue to cover the eyes. The workers of iniquity will disguise themselves as angels of light and deceive the children of God. Sheep know the voice of their master and the children of God are known by their fruit!
Everyone, please pray for discernment and to know the truth in your heart.
2:38 - "Inside, it's all about _the show."_
Yep. That pretty much sums up most modern Protestant churches.
Pigsssss!!
Blind leading the blind; 1 Timothy 4 verses 1 to 15 explains better; verse 1 to 2 says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy. So folk's get know your Bible first, these are the last day's.
Are you a hater? 'cause I sense lots of hatred... GEE... like you said
I listen for scripture in the lyrics. If you don’t hear the name Jesus Christ or solid scripture references, then why is it considered “Christian “ music?🤔... Positive messages and motivational lyrics have no power to convict or encourage the soul. Always be aware the Satan was in charge of music in heaven before he was evicted. He’s very crafty with the music industry - Christian & secular. Be very discerning when listening to music as a Christian. Satan can present himself as an angel of light, some call this “dark light.” Everything and everyone attached to the name “Christian” is not of The Father.
Be discerning and be led by The Holy Spirit and the Holy Scriptures. Test EVERY spirit by The Spirit and see if it be The Spirit of God. Keep your👀 on Jesus and ask Him to Guide & Protect you. God bless you!!
True! Remember satan used scripture to tempt jesus on the mountain. Matthew 4:1-11 and has been using this trick for years. The deception has gone far deeper than you can imagine. Quoting means nothing without the authority from God to execute what his word says and also if the person truly belongs to God it eventually manifests itself. Now we have Christian Artists quoting scripture whilst using occult symbolism and hand gestures in their music, new age theories and subliminal messages in their music videos, let alone freemasonry garbage. It's tied into illuminati that the secular music industry worships. That's many of the major (even christian labels) to thank for that. I've worked in the music and film Industry for many years. I've seen enough to know they try to serve two masters because Record Labels want lots of money and often don't care who, they pull down the rabbit hole to get it You are spot on otherwise. Keep up that good fight.
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You can search for a HD copy too. Beautiful movie about Jesus.
We need to stand on the finished work of Jesus Christ and not depend on what we do whether that is giving money or something else. We are made righteous in Christ alone. We cannot buy God's blessings.
This is not Christianity.this is entertainment. The gospel is perverted. A feel good gospel devoid of content. As far from authentic Christianity as the devil is from Christ.
It's okay to ask for tithes but the lady speaking in this video is obviously angered by something because she's lying and Misquoting very many things. I just wish that documentaries weren't so biased and one sided. Also Christian documentaries are one sided so both parties are at fault. Let's all try to present the truth.
I'd like to see the video where they taught that Cain killed his brother because he didn't tithe :). I highly doubt that was preached. Also the "must" tithing rule is prevalent in some Pentecostal churches I believe but many evangelical churches don't follow that. From Old and New Testaments were learn if we understand the Scriptures that nothing is by compulsion. God loves a cheerful giver. We are not compelled to do anything. It comes out of our love for Him that we do anything. That said, there is nothing wrong in believing God to bless you.
I agree with your statement.. We should know both parties'explainations... In this video, we only know from one party.
In the book of Acts, everyone who followed the teachings of Jesus sold their land, homes, belongings and shared it amongst the other believers (not the pastor) who didn't have anything and they lived in unity lacking nothing. I too used to be a tithe payer and used to do it freely until it became a burden and God taught me not to follow the pastor but to follow God.
Half-truths don't make the truth. Only half the truth is told here and, of course, it is meant to rile the uninformed.
@xxzzxx99 Depends on the value of the properties... If they're both worth over a million bucls, that's pretty lavish.
This video is pure nonsense. Are the Christians complaining NO, are they forced to give No, so why not go cover other evil stories and schemes that destroy lives. Undercover, undercover what, we know why we give and why we are giving cheerfully. I do not need Bobby or Brian to tell me what to do I follow my Bible, period.
Wanyina Vybes Uncover the fact that in one year they had revenue of $55 million dollars and spent a pittance on outreach/mission/giving work. That isn’t “not for profit”. That is making a massive profit, therefore they should contribute to society and community their fair share - for hospitals, roads, welfare, education. But then all this was explained, but some of you are refusing to hear it for your own reasons.
Thank you. We give freely whatever the percentage it is.
Wanyina Vybes -
Are we sowing into good ground when we give ?
If we pause and consider, and ask the Lord; where best should our tithes and offerings be invested, in order to best please God, and so therefore apart from the portion of our giving that's necessary to maintain the daily running costs of our church, would not our giving be directed to look after those who are suffering because they don't have enough to eat, or have enough clothes to wear to keep warm and therefore not naked, or without shelter and a bed to sleep in, or other equally as important needs such as funding surgery, or dental work, or who are lonely and feel abandoned and rejected, and also, that we not overlook the poor in Israel in all this - and secondly, supporting the work of the Gospel being advanced, where the Bible is being preached, taught and discipled, to all who have never heard it, and the huge scope of evangelistic outreach and church planting, that this all entails.
If you have studied the breakdown of your church's annual financial statement, showing its incoming and outgoing funds, and you honestly still believe, (if Hillsong happens to be your church in this case), that it is fulfilling God's
prerequisites with integrity, then keep on tithing and giving to Hillsong.
Ask the Holy Spirit, to take away your peace, if you are not sowing into good ground, and to redirect you to where He wants you to give !
James 1v27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
That's like saying Hitler wasn't evil because his followers weren't complaining.
@@suziecheeseman3760 there are so many non for profit organizations that are dubious.
One my dad and uncle's are involved with from which my uncle's trying to keep making it accountable. They hva left leaning world view. I've experienced both world views. So weather hillsong are doing right or wrong according to the social measuring stick ..Hillsong and its members as whole are more likely to be in touch with social justice ect ect
Oi Hillsong be upfront with what your doing and whilst your about it give that church who are genuinely trying to help those who cant afford a meal a big wedge of that 55million
No God dosent need money, we are under a new covenant of grace. Tithe is of the old covenant. Giving should be from the heart ,not as payment for salvation,nor a way to keep your salvation. It is a gift from God not of ourselves. To say otherwise,would be saying what Jesus did on the cross wasnt enough.
Tithing is basically a covenant that was given only to the Jews and basically since we are gentiles we are not entitled to do such things as well but we have the freedom to create a pact with the Lord or a promise (which most of the time are broken but because of his grace we are still alive) where anything that the Jews made can be practiced but not to be observed as an exchange for salvation since there is only one way which is in JESUS. And did you know that the tithing in the Bible is not limited to 10% it is even more than that if you could read Deutoronomy and Leviticus about the tithing`s requirements which I highly doubt if even anyone as of now can comply to the requirements will be in a very desperate need.....which is the reason that God told Paul that the tithing WAS of necessity but now give cheerfully because all of us except the Gentiles were now adopted to the family of God wherein we obtain the same birthright through His Son.....my say to this is that if the tithing was incurred without understanding the persons needs or explaining to the members what it really means then basically this is just another scam since men tend not to know the things that of GOD so they will take advantage of it. Because as for me I made a vow to the Lord to give my tithes according to how God has prospered me but if I didn`t earn anything and wasn`t able to give God will not kill me but instead He will give me a chance to make up for it next time...how can I say that because I`m still alive as of now and broken my vow many times but God is still very merciful for someone like me........and above all if you would look at Paul he didn`t got his earnings or livings just on the church but basically bexcause he also worked as a tent maker.....so serving the Lord in the ministry that require money does not excuse anyone even a pastor from working to have enough funds for God`s work..........but if what they are doing is even neglecting their responsibility on the government aspect of accountability then basically they are hiding something because as for my church (Bible Baptist Katipunan Cebu) are showing all of the expenses and funds that was raised and to whom it will be given so if you want God to bless you, you need to be transparent to remove doubts from people and at the same time what will you be convicted of? that money is to be given to the ministry any way and would not profit you but God so if you feel any guilt or contempt then you already transgressed against the Lord because the Bible said it so ""....the truth shall set you free...." Thank you and goodevening!!
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Why did Abraham tithe then?
After all he was born before the law.
Mary..The law came after Abraham because Abraham lived by faith. He gave by faith. He gave tithe to Melchizedek and guess what all that cattle and other things He got from the kings were taken away to Heaven.. Melchizedek did not have an earthly kingdom or palace... Every gift given appears before God just like Cornelius was told. For you to benefit from the taxes you pay to your country you must pay taxes. Tithe and Offering are taxes in the Kingdom of God and you do benefit spiritually and physically.
Actually I heard in the New testament people were like liquidating things, but I know what u saying. So they tithed more in New testament. At least from what I've heard
These people know the truth . This is what they choose . Money .. I'd rather be a poor man and enter the kingdom of heaven . The be a rich man now ..
They are going to be held accountable on judgment day by God almighty. How sad that the church isn't listening to the Holy Spirit and reading there bible..
I guess the vast majority who call themselves Christians don't listen to the Holy Spirit or read their Bibles which is why we a have a weak feeble church that attacks itself.
CRETIN
Jesus himself tithed when he asked Peter to go catch a fish and it will have their tithe money to give to God in his Temple building.. Same as the widow she gave the little she had and Jesus blessed her above all who gave abundantly .T hose who took it was responsible to God for what they did. Same as all churches he will be their final judge Revelation CH:2 two are blessed five are warned.. in letters to the churches..All i know and i'm not a church member just a follower of our Lord all these 44 years after leaving the Baptist lot..they caused my house to be sold when they sent us to another town to work and rented to one member who thought it was their wedding gift from God and did not pay the monthly $16 plus mortgage..Hubby an i with our 7 children were made homeless..Know them by what they do..Now NSW burns and maybe its a warning from Heaven to see if those churches with millions of $$$ will help the Homeless..
There no diff between this and what other mega churches do as well as the catholic and anglican churches etc
Tommyk101 yes, BUT, it's wrong
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Tommyk101 yes!!!! I’ve always said people are harping on the mega churches but ain’t said NOTHING about the Catholic Church!
Right....and they are all playing on the biblically uneducated hearts of their parishioners. If folks would read their bibles for themselves, rather than listening to the doctrines of demons, they would give their money to those truly in need....not simply line the pockets of the "pimps in the pulpits". Are all preachers/pastors and the like out to take others for a ride.?? No...certainly not. However, when a "leader" has a fleet of luxury automobiles, mansions, designer clothing and more, while there are those who are without food, shelter and/or clothing within their congregations, then there is a problem, a very evil problem. Sure, the Lord blesses whom he chooses...but when the parishioners are told that the reason they are suffering, that they cannot feed themselves or their children, is because they have not planted a large enough financial "seed" to the Lord...that is spiritual ransom.
If you have a heart to give, give it directly to those who need it. Food to the hungry, warm clothing to those with nothing on their backs, to the homeless shelters and shelters for abused women...etc.
What do u mean about the catholic church?? She doesnt teach a prosperity gospel message
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I could be wrong but I think maybe the point made by the o.p. was that the CC may not teach a "prosperity" gospel as such, but rather they've heaped the riches of the world unto themselves for their own prosperity and have made grave changes to the doctrine of the gospel itself.
Unfortunately the flock is getting fleeced because they do not study the Bible for themselves. I was there once myself, thank you LORD FOR THE TRUTH OF YOUR WORD. THANK YOU HOLY SPIRIT FOR GUIDING YOUR PEOPLE IN ALL TRUTH.
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why is there a triangle when hillsong where speaking like pryamaid
deffinition of pentecostal church : relating to or denoting any of a number of Christian movements emphasizing baptism in the Holy Spirit, evidenced by ‘speaking in tongues’, prophecy, healing, and exorcism.
Illuminati: people claiming to possess special enlightenment or knowledge of something..
Hillsong has nothing to do with illuminati.
You wouldn't know it.
Churches are meant to help people and these mega churches are just all talk and no action.
Slick charlatans. Tithing is not New Testament. They are lying to the sheep about tithing...nowhere in the NT does it teach that Jesus or the apostles taught tithing. What the apostles taught is to give, with a cheerful heart. Many of the sheep are of the opinion that they must pay tithes. The sheep should study the Bible regarding tithing.
William Cook This is exactly true.
William Cook Matt 12:41-44 Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts. 42 But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins, worth only a few cents.43 Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. 44 They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything-all she had to live on.”the new testament does talk about tithing.
Tim Kidney Jesus lived his entire life under the law. Paul was the apostle to the gentiles and wrote to them in his letters. The gentiles had no knowledge of the law and little knowledge of Jewish Scriptures, customs or culture, yet Paul never taught a thing about tithing. Paul taught about giving.
Many use the verses in Malachi to support the errant tithing doctrine, but Malachi was really addressing the Levites and their illegitimate use of what was brought into the storehouse. If you compare other prophesies of that era you will find God actually crediting the Israelites with compliance in their giving of offerings. Tithing was a principle under law, and we live under grace. What we give is strictly between the individual and God (Holy Spirit).
Even this woman was not giving a tithe so your example is useless in establishing tithing under the new covenant.
Tim Kidney Please show me Book, chapter and verse in the New Testament that it declares that NT saints have to or are required to tithe. Like Tom Stewart says, that Jesus lived under the Law up until He died on the Cross. So therefore He spoke under the tithing requirement of the OT. After His resurrection and ascension, and the pouring out of the Holy Spirit the New Testament Church was born....and I don't see any mention by the apostles about tithing, except to give with a cheerful spirit. So we give because we give as the Lord prospers us, with cheerful hearts, not under a curse or compulsion, force or coercion. If the New Testament Church is to keep the Old Testament Law requirement of tithing...then we must use the practice of circumcision, or better maybe stoning people to death for adultery or homosexual acts. Maybe we can all have several wives and concubines like the OT Patriarchs had. Just saying!! No....I think the NT saints give out of love for the Lord being a matter of the heart and not a commandment.
Tim Kidney In this scripture quote, the rich people were "Tithing" their usual tithe and "large amounts". The Poor widow however, gave what she could out of charity. She didn't have the money to "tithe", but she gave it anyway because she was giving out of Charity, which in the old definition of the word means "Love of God and Brethren/Brother". This verse stands against tithing rigidly in favor of giving out of the charity of your heart "everything you can give".
I dont call it hillsong i call it hypocritesong
That Rev. Bill feeding the homeless from his own business touched my heart
Hillsong is i a great church. A generous church. Yes they collect money. But the money is spent on the people who attends the services. A lot money is given to charity. The poorest children get equipment for their school. When society betray Hillsong is there to help. It cost money. I attended a Hillsong family church for one year and it was great. It is not a perfect church because there are no perfect churches as there are no perfect people. But it was a good church. I can’t tell if that matter has changed since I was there. But it was good.
When it comes to tithing it is nothing strange about it. It has been a practice since the patriarchs... I will continue this text later. Has to sleep now.
hillsing is not biblical...false teaching
you prove it but only with scripture you can chose any 3 scriptures & I'll prove you 100% wrong in a reply
Gordon Pilcher it's a total farse
You can't prove so you're farce here, you're a joke you can't back up a word you say not a word and that means you've lied in your comment all I asked was 3 scriptures to back up you comment you given none, not 1
you are giving our opinion not scripture to back your comment so I conclude you are biblically illiterate all I aske for was 3 scripture to prove what you say is correct. It's not difficult if you're so sure of what you're saying. If you don't know what you're talking about keep your opinion to yourself it doesn't elevate you but make you look complete ignorant.
William A is as your ill thoughts
Nothing has changed except Hillsong now has the ear of the PM. And Morrison went awol during the bushfires to attend the opening of a new Hillsong church in NY.
ACTUALLY tithing is in the bible and it doesnt mean we only have to give to the church to bring people to Christ. It also means to give to the poor and so on..
Stop the hate. Hillsong and Brian Houston are what we need more of. Obviously you only know how to hate and not how to love, stop the false acquisitions.
lol this is so biased
My brother in law tithed at what was then Paradise Church ( now ‘Influencers’), he did it for years. One day he lost his job, he and his family of 4 had to wait two weeks to qualify for govt assistance, so he went to his church to ask for assistance and was told to go to the Salvation Army for help. Go figure!
This is happening in many churches all around the world. I have seen it many times in broad daylight! Its so sad 😭
People are so misinformed about Hillsong. Those that don't attend church can easily be misled by this bias reporting. News clips only shows pastor speaking on finances and then cut it off there. You should be hearing the context of the pastor's message and you can have a clear understanding rather than jumping to conclusions. Jesus spoke about the old lady who she gave what she had compared to the Pharisees's giving and showing off. Reading people's comments just goes to show they are totally misinformed about what the Bible says about giving. So please back off if you don't like or attend Hillsong if you don't know.
I have seen Hillsong pastor preaching in Arnhem land, that he believed Jesus had acutally come to Arnham land, and chosen the Aboriginal people as his own... and that if they wanted to make it into heaven they should join HIllsong. And sign up with the government benefits to a Hillsong tithing arrangement.
if you like, I will give you the details of the remote area where it happened, you can visit, and the locals will even take your on a tour of where Jesus walked... and show you one of his footprints in the rock.
So fuck off with you "biased reporting and its not about money">
Its about money
Do you know where all of the Hillsong money is spent.? Please go and ask the pastors, if you dare , and then please let the whole world know the result.
Paul Ryan Its not a matter of daring, its the matter of "Will I get the facts?" The answer to that is no.
jesuswasblackandgay Not interested.
Paul Ryan I won't ask them. They are accountable to God. I do know money is needed for normal expenses, travel expenses especially for a large group like the Hillsong bands and equipment, food...etc.
Many people who criticize Hillsong's money are the same people who criticize or complain about anything. They are usually people who aren't Christians. As I said before we including pastors are all accountable to God about money. If something is not right with God, He will let us know. God will cleanup His House..the Church.
There's nowhere in scripture that states that Cain didn't pay Tithes. What the lady stated was in error. Cain gave an un acceptable offering to God, which had nothing to do with "Tithes."
Why unacceptable? No reason given in the Bible.
Hillsong purchased our church and then painted the church and its windows black, it created a real spooky and dark atmosphere not spiritual or up lifting at all. I'm glad I went to another church down the road were God's word and laws and prophesy is preached. So Glad we never went back. The only reason the young go is for the excessively loud music.
Hi Mark, do you mean Garden City. I went their when Klimionock was pastor.
they go to be entertained you should go to church to be fed the truth of the gospel
That’s weird that these type of sketch churches paint them black with no windows. I believe you
Why paint windows black?
@@AGNETHAFALTSK0G because they influenced by Free Masons Free Mason Temples don't have windows
Is it so difficult to just have a church that wants to talk about Jesus and not be flashy with lights and music and DVDs. Can't we have a church where people actually talk during the sermon and ask questions so they can improve their faith instead of just listening to the pastor for an hour and then walking out not answering any questions? Can we have a church that gives and secret instead of in public? can we please have a pastor in a church then wants to give a spiritual meet and not just continuous spiritual milk? These things that I'm asking for all simple to give and should be part of a church that is genuinely bent on pursuing Christ. So I guess the question is why isn't it around? Have We Become that ineffective but this is the best we can do?
Generosity is a fruit of a Christian Life and not a formula to extract blessings from God. I believe that Christians should be generous and support God's work but we should not be required to any particular church. I would recommend giving as the Holy Spirit leads you including helping those in need directly. Taxing churches is a very bad idea , instead we should shrink government, lower taxes and free up more income for people and churches to truly help those in need. The tremendous tax burdens placed on people these days is imoral and government's have a record of being very waistful, corrupt,and often spend our money for imoral purposes. This is the equivalent of extortion
Brandon Bujak I agree.
Brandon Bujak truths
Yes indeed. The governments of the world are the cause of the big problems and nowadays the lawyers and accountants who produce absolutely nothing. Most pollies are failed lawyers yet they cannot make solid laws, only laws to keep their bro's in business at $600 per hour. I cannot kowtow to those utter morons and I never will. Innocent until proven guilty. Not in Oz.
Nothing new! Proud to be hated,knowing they hate my savior first. But wow has my Lord blessed me.!!!!!
Wake up folks. The Bible tells us us that the road to Heaven is narrow. So if you're following crowds of people into a church then you're probably NOT on that narrow road. God has NO interest in entertaining us with bands and concerts and tours. God is NOT concerned with our comfort - ONLY in our character. In fact, the Bible gives specific instructions on how to witness for God, and that's door to door, face to face. These churches that claim they are trying to win souls by becoming gigantic and using media are completely ignoring that. The media IS NOT about GOD. GOD says, " I am NOT of this world, and he who is of this world is NOT of me." So how, then, does ANY mega church do GOD'S work? They call it a "worship experience". No different than a "cheese product" - meant to give the illusion. Don't lose your soul following along like cattle.
Scientology is definitely a corporation. Go after them first.
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ACA have again reported on Hillsong, this time with a much longer 16 minute report.
colliric the more the merrier hope ACA keeps it coming even though they still havnt come and asked us at hillsong for the yearly report its all there and that is where the money is going....but what ever
+scilentwatcher They didn't have to ask for a report, they have the actual figures from ASIC. Over 70 MILLION DOLLARS in the last year. What a scam.
If they only own 2 properties, that's hardly lavish.
What amazes me about these kind of videos is they never talk about what the Church had ('earnings') 30 years ago when they started. What the Church went through during the early stages. You see the Glory but you don't know the Story ....Shut Up and do something with your life and leave the Church alone. And these people on the interview talking about how the Pastors travel round the world lavishly, are just simply jealous they are not living that life.
Certainly religion of money in present time.... Obviously. Maybe not so much in the past. But fondamentally you are right, nobody should have to pay income taxes.
Corruption always has humble beginnings
It is good that hillsong appeals to the young god bless em but one of the reasons my parents and i stopped attending church was because of the music.Dont forget about the elderly they are part of the church too so throw a couple of classic hymns in for them, respect the elders.It would be sad to see another division in the church, old vs young, God loves everyone so include and appeal to everyone it does'nt hurt to sing amazing grace or down in the river to pray once in a while.
Totally agree! I'm a very young 50 and I want to hear some of the old hymns....so much so, I want to find a christian church with no rock band and just sing hymns of worship. Each to their own but that's what makes me feel closer to Jesus and God ♥
Drowning in their own LAODICEAN LUKEWARM VOMIT....'Not everyone who says to Me Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven'
"The Hills are alive, with the sound of cash tithes..." This style of religious hypocrisy is the same as that which Jesus condemned over and over. Read your bible if you dare.