You learned: do real magic tricks, not fake camera tricks! 😎 We used to see an armature guy who had a regular gig at a local restaurant, and he could do some very impressive slight of hand with Matchbox or Hot Wheels cars. Always amazing when someone does it right in front of you (close up), and you still can't catch anything they're doing! Keep up the good work, may you both stay safe and well!
You should do this with Eric, Alex and Chris. Each of you do 2 sleight of hand and one camera trick, and others try to guess which is which. No slow-downs, no frame/by/frame.
This is really fun! I disagree with your conclusion though, I think it *is* worth it because with editing you can add an "extra" twist on top of sleight of hand, look at Shin Lim's stuff!
Daniel Madison does some insane camera magic and sleight of hand together. Sometimes he really blurs the lines with camera magic and skill. He really only uses it for super visual tricks he probably couldn't do otherwise, such as black art. Camera magic isn't to remove the skill from magic, but to compliment it.
As you showed in the coin trick, cutting on motion is the easiest way to hide a cut as the eye can't focus on one specific thing (i'm sure this is a similar principle in magic). With the card trick, perhaps cutting on the card being turned over to reveal the swap would've been the best place to cut. However, your tricks work best when slowly played out so it could be that these types of cuts wouldn't work for your performance style. Either way, your work is fantastic.
2nd on collab w/Corridor Crew. As a kid, watching David Copperfield hide the Statue of Liberty was one that stuck with me - is there a technique that works well like that on a small scale that you can do on video? found your channel via your FU trophy videos from fool us, and realized you're pals with Chris Ramsay as well. Awesome!
Student film! Love this stuff. Thanks for doing these vids because I'm still stuck at home and I am fucking bored...like cabin fever bored. Like the neighbors might find their barky dog duct taped to the fence bored. Thank you so much!
Just for fun/ease of information (as if it already wasn't super casual and understandable) you could have said the effort required on a 1-5 or 1-10 scale you know like for the first example im sure the difficulty of masking through the frames was probably more effort thouuuugh in retrospect you're already doing that, nah alls good you nailed it here
I thought it was pretty funny how on the first trick, the foam balls stuck up out of the pot on the "camera magic" one making it difficult to do the camera magic, but on the "sleight of hand" one they all ended up below the rim of the pot so the camera magic would have been easy.
@@andrewboehner2348 The V1s actually. www.ebay.com/itm/1st-Playing-Cards-by-Chris-Ramsay-1st-Edition-V1-Sealed-New-Rare-Out-of-Print/174344054401?hash=item2897b72681:g:1-AAAOSwKZhfB9Ud Be bprepared to pay a lot of money.
For the card swap. I would have put the card down picked up the card. Then do a cut on the pickup of the card(would look good like the coin trick since the cut frame will be blurred).
On the first one, I didn't notice the mask cutout of your leg, but I did notice the balls being visible around the front edge of the lid as it is coming down. Without going frame by frame, I'm not sure, but I suspect that was the balls reflecting off the lip of the shiny lid.
Looking at the first card trick I learned the CR back 1st cards are directional. You can see that in one orientation there is a little bit of the CR tail visible right above the 1st foil, but not in the other orientation. In addition to the white balance shift that also causes the back to jump a little between cuts. I assume that is intentional in the card back design, but I'm surprised it wasn't flagged in the materials
you should make a competition and let your viewers make camera tricks and magic tricks and you have to guess what is what because i think you can make it the camera tricks more believable if you put more time into it
I've been struggling with the muscle pass, but I think editing could make me look like a pro. I'd drop the coin from one hand to another then reverse the footage.
i love magic and been to a few live shows. mostly seen videos or tv though. Pretty much everyone now knows that is fake and not real magic, and i know the secret to most tricks. some i cant figure out though. I can only do one trick tbh. a vanishing cigarette. looks good if done in person ;)
It's a fun idea, and one I really wanted to see for a LONG time! Here's a tip as well....never ever..ever...everever use auto settings if you're trying to do video editing in this style. The auto ISO will make your life hell, the auto focus will make your life hell. But this was fun to watch and I will watch every single thing you post because you (and your wife, especially her) are awesome. lol
The ones with bad video tape was just because they were made poorly. Taking the time to learn the sleight of hand whould probably take longer time than the video editing, but he is experienced with magic so for him it os easier
What if you retried the card switch using a greenscreen (maybe just a brown tablecloth/monocolor table and chroma key it to look like the wooden table)? If you did that, you could even show the card face-up on table to prove it's not a double lift. Would be much more difficult to set a face-up card on the table, flip it over, and flip it right side up to change to a different card if you were doing real slight of hand.
The pen was good, the sleight has a beat where i knew how you could do it, and honestly better than I thought it would be... The camera edit is smooth and quick, couldnt tell at all. This was a fun one, simple trick, many ways to do it...
I would really like to see you review magic films I.e David Blaine, Dynamo, Darren Brown etc. and tell us what’s real and what is completely actors and fake. I have always had suspicions but never known
The thing is, here you were trying to make the moves look identical, which isn't where you would want to use camera tricks. If the camera trick convinces people you are doing easier slight of hand then what is the point? use camera tricks to make the trick look more impossible or difficult, not try to make it look the same.
I think there is a slight flaw in the premise. Using camera tricks to replicate magic tricks you can do in real life is bound to take more effort and often add little to the effect. Using the same skill level in magic and editing, you could design effects around the assumption that you have camera tricks to begin with, and produce more impressive results.... Watching modern action or sci-fi movies drives home the point that the art form(s) we categorize as [not-real] magic is less interesting without some assurance that you could see it live, and even then technology is opening up more and easier ways to do effects in real life that used to be extremely difficult.
With that cut on the transforming card trick, I would have done it with a cross fade. It takes the jarring effect out of the lighting change. But yeah, in general, doing practical effects is often more real looking than camera trickery and computer graphics.
You have the playing card upside-down when compared with the original shot. That's another reason why it still 'jumps'. The pattern is ever so slightly skewed to one side.
Should see if you can reach out to Zach and do a collab where you perform a trick that you consider pretty convincing using sleight of hand, and then have him replicate it using video editing and compare the results. Would be fun to see the different approaches you guys take.
even in Zach King's videos, there is a lot of editing effort AND lots of ideas used to make those edits possible! and definitely it's much easier to do the sleight of hand versions (probably cleaner too :D)
So fun! Love this idea, might give it a try!
Very nice.
This was so entertaining to watch! Please make more!!!
Legend
Pretty good demo - you can be forgiven for the extraneous chatter - what the hell, you obviously enjoy doing this and it is enjoyable to watch. Thanks
Great stuff here! 🤙🏽😊🤙🏽
You should challenge the Corridor Crew to real vs vfx magic. That would be interesting to see
No offence but i feel like he doesnt have enough subs. Chris ramsay maybe
@@powerpug964 you need to outgrow that Subs matter thought.
@@powerpug964 you need to outgrow that Subs matter thought.
That would be a great match up.
Great video Wes! that floating was very suspect :D
You learned: do real magic tricks, not fake camera tricks! 😎 We used to see an armature guy who had a regular gig at a local restaurant, and he could do some very impressive slight of hand with Matchbox or Hot Wheels cars. Always amazing when someone does it right in front of you (close up), and you still can't catch anything they're doing! Keep up the good work, may you both stay safe and well!
You should do this with Eric, Alex and Chris. Each of you do 2 sleight of hand and one camera trick, and others try to guess which is which.
No slow-downs, no frame/by/frame.
I disagree, give the video to the slo-mo (highspeed camera) guys, LOL - 1 billion frames per second?
That would make for a great video. Good idea.
YES THIS IS HOW TO DO IT! Make it a challenge, it'll make them try harder for their camera tricks cuz they'll want to fool the others.
This is a great idea! My dumb ass wouldn't be able to figure it out, but that's half the fun.
great video and really interesting :)
Good clean video editing makes any trick look sleight of hand
Nice deck of CR cards!
OH MY GOD, IS THAT REALLY FLOATING?!
Fun video
Loved the video at 2:00
And still loved it all the way to the end
This is really fun! I disagree with your conclusion though, I think it *is* worth it because with editing you can add an "extra" twist on top of sleight of hand, look at Shin Lim's stuff!
Wes needs a tan :P
Thanks for the lesson. Magic vs film editing. Both require skill and both are an art.
I love your magic videos.You're awesome
i have the same idea with u
in the future hkhk
Nice Wes💜💜
I enjoyed this! Wes ya mad bastard, youre doin good! Keep it up!
Since these are all already online you should make a video showing off how to do all five of these
You should solve the Excalibur puzzle using clever cuts and a timer and then challenge Chris to solve his and watch the madness ensue.
Hahhaha
3:35 he so proud of his editing....aww
Daniel Madison does some insane camera magic and sleight of hand together. Sometimes he really blurs the lines with camera magic and skill. He really only uses it for super visual tricks he probably couldn't do otherwise, such as black art. Camera magic isn't to remove the skill from magic, but to compliment it.
so glad the "appearing balls" trick wasn't what I thought it was, lol
Hahahaha
As you showed in the coin trick, cutting on motion is the easiest way to hide a cut as the eye can't focus on one specific thing (i'm sure this is a similar principle in magic). With the card trick, perhaps cutting on the card being turned over to reveal the swap would've been the best place to cut. However, your tricks work best when slowly played out so it could be that these types of cuts wouldn't work for your performance style.
Either way, your work is fantastic.
The actual tricks look better in most of these examples dude! Congrats
2nd on collab w/Corridor Crew. As a kid, watching David Copperfield hide the Statue of Liberty was one that stuck with me - is there a technique that works well like that on a small scale that you can do on video? found your channel via your FU trophy videos from fool us, and realized you're pals with Chris Ramsay as well. Awesome!
I'm so happy to see more magic on your channel again! Keep up with the good work. Also sick slight of hand on all the tricks!
Dont know why but i want a friend like Wes
Student film! Love this stuff. Thanks for doing these vids because I'm still stuck at home and I am fucking bored...like cabin fever bored. Like the neighbors might find their barky dog duct taped to the fence bored. Thank you so much!
love this video!
Details can make anyone crazy, if they care to care...❤👏🙌🐰🎩❤
Here's an idea. Show the same prop used for different tricks. For example, using a thumb tip.
Just for fun/ease of information (as if it already wasn't super casual and understandable) you could have said the effort required on a 1-5 or 1-10 scale you know
like for the first example im sure the difficulty of masking through the frames was probably more effort
thouuuugh in retrospect you're already doing that, nah alls good you nailed it here
You can check out FX Adventure, he does exactly that
I thought it was pretty funny how on the first trick, the foam balls stuck up out of the pot on the "camera magic" one making it difficult to do the camera magic, but on the "sleight of hand" one they all ended up below the rim of the pot so the camera magic would have been easy.
Your camera tricks are impressive. What video editing software are you using & where can I get those cards?
Final Cut Pro
@@WesBarker What about the cards? I was wondering that too, I know they're Chris Ramsey's brand, but I haven't seen that deck on his site.
@@EiferBrennan 1ST V2, sold out. Probably can find them on eBay. We need some WES decks!
@@andrewboehner2348 The V1s actually.
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Be bprepared to pay a lot of money.
@@EiferBrennan SOLD OUT! ☹ www.chris-ramsay.com/store/p18/1ST_Playing_Cards_V2.html
Laughing so hard at the floating paper
6:22 HAHA his eyes trying to focus on the non-existent paper is the best
you coud look at "captain disillusion" u can do a lot with just camera trickery, check the tapemeasure one ! :)
you should try maybe vanishing cards
German for dummies? Guten Tag!
You face doing IT is classic...Wes hates IT lol.
Eric's taught you well. Lol
A better comparison is a trick which can be done live verses an only camera version yes?
For the card swap. I would have put the card down picked up the card. Then do a cut on the pickup of the card(would look good like the coin trick since the cut frame will be blurred).
This is why all magic online is iffy. I like a few go-to guys like you and others who don't use magic tricks.
On the first one, I didn't notice the mask cutout of your leg, but I did notice the balls being visible around the front edge of the lid as it is coming down. Without going frame by frame, I'm not sure, but I suspect that was the balls reflecting off the lip of the shiny lid.
For the king to ace, do the camera trick with the deck. So your card you set down is already the ace. Then there’s no lighting change.
Will Tsai has built his reputation around using camera tricks. Annoyingly most people don't realise its all CGI.
I mean, Will Tsai also creates real effects; I only know him from stuff he sells and not his RUclips channel
Looking at the first card trick I learned the CR back 1st cards are directional. You can see that in one orientation there is a little bit of the CR tail visible right above the 1st foil, but not in the other orientation. In addition to the white balance shift that also causes the back to jump a little between cuts. I assume that is intentional in the card back design, but I'm surprised it wasn't flagged in the materials
Plot twist:the entire video was Computer generated. “Easy”
you should make a competition and let your viewers make camera tricks and magic tricks and you have to guess what is what because i think you can make it the camera tricks more believable if you put more time into it
I've been struggling with the muscle pass, but I think editing could make me look like a pro. I'd drop the coin from one hand to another then reverse the footage.
getting such perfect matching movements that edited so well together on the coin production is the most impressive thing on the video.
i love magic and been to a few live shows. mostly seen videos or tv though. Pretty much everyone now knows that is fake and not real magic, and i know the secret to most tricks. some i cant figure out though. I can only do one trick tbh. a vanishing cigarette. looks good if done in person ;)
"Appearing Balls"? I can do that. ;)
Lol 😂 just not in public
Hey 👋 I love your vids and I recommend you also start a gaming channel like fortnite or something
😊😃😃😃😃
HELLO!!!!
Here's a trick to try: Turn yourself into Chris Ramsay. 😂 (just a joke, ❤U) 😅
Is it bad I didn't notice the video editing problems until it was pointed out? lol
So dynamo vs shinlim.
It would be more interesting to put a professional video editor vs a professional magician.
Floating paper needs to become a gif.
You should try and get some good VFX guy like Captain Disillusion to see what the best way of doing these camera tricks can compare to real ones.
Try to do some Zach King tricks as real magic tricks. ;)
Hey this intro is fire (with wes song)
Please don't change it
It's a fun idea, and one I really wanted to see for a LONG time! Here's a tip as well....never ever..ever...everever use auto settings if you're trying to do video editing in this style. The auto ISO will make your life hell, the auto focus will make your life hell. But this was fun to watch and I will watch every single thing you post because you (and your wife, especially her) are awesome. lol
Great advice. I’ll shut the auto off next time 👍🏻
@@WesBarker nice, and I love the message too. Just do magic!
I dont know how you did the last three tricks, any links?
The ones with bad video tape was just because they were made poorly. Taking the time to learn the sleight of hand whould probably take longer time than the video editing, but he is experienced with magic so for him it os easier
What if you retried the card switch using a greenscreen (maybe just a brown tablecloth/monocolor table and chroma key it to look like the wooden table)?
If you did that, you could even show the card face-up on table to prove it's not a double lift. Would be much more difficult to set a face-up card on the table, flip it over, and flip it right side up to change to a different card if you were doing real slight of hand.
The pen was good, the sleight has a beat where i knew how you could do it, and honestly better than I thought it would be... The camera edit is smooth and quick, couldnt tell at all. This was a fun one, simple trick, many ways to do it...
When it comes to video editing tricks Wes i am assuming you have heard of Zack King?? Please tell me you have heard of Zack King Wes#:#!!
LOL, no I did not see where you cut it around the balls! I was too busy wincing!
I would really like to see you review magic films I.e David Blaine, Dynamo, Darren Brown etc. and tell us what’s real and what is completely actors and fake. I have always had suspicions but never known
man you can give out tutorials of these tricks
How about you try to edit a false shuffle.
"Real magic"
Why didn't you change the card while it was on the deck for the camera version.
d'oh!
I really preferred the slight of hand version of all the all the magic tricks.
Same.
@@WesBarker Hey,Wes do you know the Home address of William Shatner ?
@@WesBarker Do you watch Star TrEck ???
@@WesBarker Aside from Magic can you do celebrity impressions
Christian Bale called, he wants his teeth back!
Don't quit your day job ;) zing!
The thing is, here you were trying to make the moves look identical, which isn't where you would want to use camera tricks. If the camera trick convinces people you are doing easier slight of hand then what is the point?
use camera tricks to make the trick look more impossible or difficult, not try to make it look the same.
I think there is a slight flaw in the premise. Using camera tricks to replicate magic tricks you can do in real life is bound to take more effort and often add little to the effect.
Using the same skill level in magic and editing, you could design effects around the assumption that you have camera tricks to begin with, and produce more impressive results....
Watching modern action or sci-fi movies drives home the point that the art form(s) we categorize as [not-real] magic is less interesting without some assurance that you could see it live, and even then technology is opening up more and easier ways to do effects in real life that used to be extremely difficult.
Id love to see a vlog on editing your video's wes ! .some of us have never edited a video.and dont have imovie.or an 📱 iPhone
Absolutely get a lavier mic, sound would match video then!
With that cut on the transforming card trick, I would have done it with a cross fade. It takes the jarring effect out of the lighting change.
But yeah, in general, doing practical effects is often more real looking than camera trickery and computer graphics.
hello to u Wes! personal convo?
when did the pen drop? I don't see it??
You have the playing card upside-down when compared with the original shot. That's another reason why it still 'jumps'. The pattern is ever so slightly skewed to one side.
You should challenge the guys from Corridor Digital to a magician vs. CG battle
Should see if you can reach out to Zach and do a collab where you perform a trick that you consider pretty convincing using sleight of hand, and then have him replicate it using video editing and compare the results. Would be fun to see the different approaches you guys take.
You look like a younger Tony Hawk
Ummm ARE THOSE THE 1st V4’s??? ummm have they even been revealed yet 😬😏
Those are V2s
even in Zach King's videos, there is a lot of editing effort AND lots of ideas used to make those edits possible! and definitely it's much easier to do the sleight of hand versions (probably cleaner too :D)
Social media has lead me to despise camera tricks, even If I can appreciate the art.
Loved all the tricks but the floating was really bad
😂😂😂