The old Audi R8 is better than the new Audi R8
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- Опубликовано: 12 янв 2022
- The Audi R8 was designed to be neither arrogant, aggressive or vulgar. It was designed to stand out primarily for its elegance. The R8 is engineered to be a well balanced, mid engined sports car first of all. But it also needed to be a car you can drive in comfort every day and not just on the weekend.
It was Audi’s first mid-engined sports car that combined their racing experience with the innovative design and technological expertise of Audi.
For the styling, the design team wanted the R8 to “looks like it is tensing its muscles in readiness - like a sprinter on the starting blocks”
The car was developed from the 2003 Le Mans prototype and the transition from concept to production is one of the best ones I can remember from the mid 2000s. I actually think the production version looks better than the concept and I’m gonna let you know why.
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I've always thought that the first gen looks way better than the 2nd. Every time I see one my jaw drops on how good it looks
the pre-facelift gen 2 still looks good to be fair.
@@sebces2576 I agree to an extent but still not as elegant/aggressive than the 1st gen. I do realize it's a subjective topic...
Agreed
@@justinrosa56 1st was elegant, 2nd is typical "crudely-passive-agressive style to show how very assertive the owner of the car is". 2nd gen has more of the overcompensating owner vibe, typical for some of recent Audi cars, or some other premium brands, especially german, and especially in case of SUVs. Like they went too far with trying to show the social status of owner, those cars try very hard to speak ,,I'm better than you" instead of being elegant. But maybe it's the problem of some customers mindset.
@@cytrynowy_melon6604 couldn't have said it better
almost every new audi has lost the elegance and charme of the 2000s models
all of the designers somehow agreed to design more aggressively, make the lines too concise and sharp, which I think isn't a good thing
@@eatsleepdrift4494 People who buy Audi recently are one of those newly rich who want to show their social status too hard. Those cars try to speak ,,I'm better than you" too hard in passive-agressive manner. Elegance is lost in result.
Although I agree with them losing the elegant design…….I think you are looking way to far into it, owners thinking “I’m better than u”, and “social status” seems to be your own insecurities, and not them. I know many new Audi owners, and it’s laughable to that’s why they own them. Seems like YOU care wayyyyy to much about what other ppl think.
I hoped you would talk more about the difference between the pre-facelift and the facelift 2nd gen, but great video, the first R8 is a 10/10 design for me
Was looking for this too!
Pre 2012 R8s were the best
Audi before and a while after the introduction of the single frame grill had absolutely timeless designs! Now they are straying away from that.
The thing I absolutely hate about Audi's new designs is how all their cars look pissed off. Particularly the mk2 TT. It used to have a cheeky cat-like face that gave it so much character, like the R8's mischievous baby sister, but now they're both angry robots. Jaguar did the same thing with the F type and killed all of its appeal.
I agree, the audi TT was the worst design evolution going into the 3rd gen
I personatelly prefer an angry face on such a powerfull car. I think it matches better.
Angry robots😂😂. True said 👍👍
@@thekidshrey especially when their electric cars are called E-Tron like they're from the tron movie 💀
@@falcongamer58 oh yeah💔
As a 2014 Audi R8 owner, I appreciate this video! 😎🤙🏼
Finally, you mentioned the first gen A5 Coupe! In my opinion, it is one of the best looking cars of the modern era. The design is just so elegant and simple, and the proportions are perfect. (It would be great if you could do a video about the A5).
Talking about the R8, I also think that the first gen looks better, but the pre facelift of the current one looks pretty good as well, mainly, because it is a more modern approach to the original R8 design language, but still maintaining that elegant look.
From the late 90's, to 2017/18, I think Audi had the best looking "mainstream"/premium cars on the market.
Audi’s R8 is probably the most simple and minimal, elegant looking car it’s not angry nor sad it’s just ready to sprint as bembli said, it’s a freaking sprinter
yeah your're right. I remember when I 1st saw the 1st gen audi R8 back in the day. It was love at 1st sight. Still my dream car till today.
1st gen R8 non-facelifted ones are the best looking R8s imo
What I love about the R8 that it’s evolved into a car for people of all tastes. The new generation is aggressive for people who love that super car look. Whilst the older gens have a more elegant look
The first gen is simply timeless, one of most beautiful Audi ever designed
I’m my opinion the pre-facelifted R8 (2017) is the best looking R8. The fake vents that are everywhere look so freaking ugly in the new r8
Same, my dream R8 is the R8 V10 Plus
1st gen R8s are timeless modern classics. ❤
The original R8 V10 will be worth millions someday.
Timeless design but very underrated.
Thousands were produced so unlikely
@@SWTH71 maybe our philosophy of rare = expensive will change
@@florinmatusea it is possible especially with the move towards electrification and it’s also important to remember that there’s more to a value of a car than just rarity. R34 GTR and mk4 Supra production numbers are surprisingly close to those of the V10 R8 probably (no exact figures publicly available) and the prices at the current market are insane
@@ezmaass I knew the numbers were low but that’s super low. Damn those are just waiting to jump like the old SLR.
Imo first gen is my absolute favorite car of all time period. The perfect blend of literally everything that I love about cars. Once I buy one I'll rest happy.
Finally someone said it. The First r8 was mystically fascinating. Every time I see the 1st generation on the road I instantly grin. The newer r8 has too many lines with no other purpose then for “style cues”.
Totally agree. A design signature was the 1 side blade design. They should had kept that also in the new design... I hope they design the new one (as I heard it will be an ev) a lil bit rounder and better proportioned...
From unique and timeless head turner ... to a Junk Eye Sore.
Great video. I've been watching your videos about the designs of cars.
I have been fortunate to own a 2014 RS5 in the past but when a unique opportunity to trade for a 2014 R8 V10 6 MT ....I went for it. The only changes I've made is a cf steering wheel and shifter, valvetronic capristo exhaust. Cf splitter and honeycomb front grill with a license plate relocation.
Everywhere I go....I get approached bu enthusiasts and I never get sick of talking to audi lovers. Originally when the newer generation r8 came out I was not a fan...but it has grown on me. However, I would never give up the manual gated 6MT until I can't drive it anymore....or I get offered an obscene amount of money lol
The 1st gen facelifted R8 is one of my favorite cars ever, another one from Audi I like a lot is the 2nd gen Audi TT (the TTS in particular), any thoughts on that? Maybe compare it to the 1st and 3rd gen or compare it to a 370Z.
Controversial sideblade? It wasn't controversial at all, everyone and their mother loved it. And it was done before - Smart Roadster.
I completely agree. When I was younger, the Audi R8 was my dream car. Fast forward to today, I don't even want to look at a picture of the R8 anymore. That is how sad the situation is. I'm not sure who is in charge of design at Audi nowadays, but they have destroyed an icon.
It’s the same thing with the a5 the 1. generation facelift looks so much better than the current version!
I disagree. It's ver nice except for that weird body line that ruins the styling of the car.
I remember 10 years ago my dream supercar was a v10 R8.
I loved the R8 ever since I watched 17 Again
Wow. Years ago i absolutly believe that Audi and BMW had one of the best design phylosophies, at least compared with Mercedes. Now, for me, both automakers have lost that design lenguage that caracterized them (specially BMW, meanwhile Audi just make more and more “agressive-fake air vent” facelifts). Mercedes, on other hand, nailed with the A and C class exterior design (altought their electric vehicles are just meh for me)
Love the old R8 especially in white.
Absolutely incredible design! If it was produced today - it would have exactly the same impact! Timeless designs are revolutionary- whoever designed the R8 was an absolute genius!!!
Old R8 already becoming classic.
Design-wise, yes. The OG cannot be beat, and the facelifted 2nd gen's jowls are not it. However, money aside, I think the R8 to own is a 2021 V10 Performance RWD. No other R8 stands closer to its motorsports-only cousins, the LMS GT3/GT4 R8s.
I glad to see that you as a designer share the same thoughts as I do on the R8. I've owned my refreshed 1st gen for more than 2 years now, yet I still spend hours on hours just admiring its beauty.
100% agree with you! I noticed myself thinking the same, when I saw the new R8 - something has changed in a bad way, something looks like Lamborgini, too much styling...
Tptally agree with all of what you stated, Audi had great designs few years ago.
Audi also made an R8 V12 TDI concept that looked awesome AF (even better than the facelifted 1st gen)
I thought Bembli would talk about it in this video
but tbh, it deserves a video of its own
Mk2 tt was also a very beautiful looking car, ahead of its time especially when they first went out in 08 🔥
Honestly, I was kinda bored with the content of this channel, but this time you really nailed it. You described everything I thought about the R8 but in an elocuent, more professional way.
Late 2000s Audis are the best. I really like the first gen R8 but prefacelift, I love like the dots running lights not only in the R8, also in the A1, A4, A6 and A8. The Q5 is also beautiful, but the Q7 was a bit too oversized, still like the V12 biTDI Audi put in it
I'm biased to the Le Mans concept and the first gen but both generations of R8 almost reminded me of a stretched mid engine super car TT tbh. Idk why but that's the way my mind always sees them and I enjoy the TT too so it's not an insult but my mind just sort of makes those two models relative beyond just both being similar designs due to being both Audis with a rear hatch etc.
You can see the same issue with other of their models, I have an Audi Q5 from 2010 and I have noticed that the first generation feel so much more elegant and attractive, while newer models tend to go too aggressive on the styling making it difficult to appreciate the design, they feel so alien that make it difficult to imagine how Audi wen from a very unique and elegant design to something desperate to grab you attention but loosing you fast...
Its like their design has gone from german to korean all of the sudden... if you know what I mean.
The first R8 is the low point of the lineage in my opinion. It's too round, too bubbly, too melted. It looked like a stretched TT.
The second Gen is the most beautiful in my opinion. Elegant, no unnecessary lines, simple shapes, very sharp, clean and very sophisticated, perfect for a german mid engine super car.
The third generation is too busy, too Lamborghini for my taste, but I still prefer it over the melted cheese first Gen.
I like your thoughts on the first generation. I don't agree personally about it looking worse than the 3rd gen. I prefer the roundness, imo it's an iconic feature of the R8. I do agree the second generation being the most beautiful. The lines are natural while being pronounced enough to be appreciated. 3rd gen got awkward as explained in the video.
He said something similar about the Nissan 350z and 370z. Though I actually prefer the 370z.
@@ushikiii I prefer the 350Z, because of the headlights
Audi with Peter Schreyer was the best. Car designs that influenced present day cars.
Audi today is just coasting with what Peter Schreyer and the original team that designed for the company in the 90’s and 2000’s.
Everything Audi puts out today is just a jagged version of the original clean design.
Audi has a massive rule book for styling so they wouldn't stay far from the formula
2011-2013 was the golden age for Audi.
Compared to Bmw the new Audi R8 looks still very good
You've made me remember my childhood days when i used to play nfs carbon, i love those nostalgic vibes 😍
When Audi had Superb designs...
The first generation R8 V10 facelift looks the best of all time. In black with the V10 wheels it looks absolutely gorgeous
I think exactly the same, it's like they just designed the car with rulers. Could you make a redesign for the new r8? Thx
I actually think the very first V8 version looks better than the V10. There is something about how the "fringes" in the vents below the head & tail lights are more distinguishable on the V8, to then get kind of framed in on the V10 design. Also the cleanliness of the side blade not having that extra notch preserves some elegance, on the V10 it kind of gets disrupted. Lastly the old headlights just look at you differently. While I do agree the newer LEDs look better, I can't really drop the way that round reflector in the first gen kind of gives off a classic car SLS-vibe where classic meets modern. The first V8 is true perfection, and you can't improve perfection, so the newer ones are never gonna look as good.
Wow, you really hit the nail on the head…..never really put my finger on why I like the v8 better, but you explained it perfectly. Especially the grills below the head/tail lights. Even the side skirt, which I liked on the v10 better back when, now I realize even that makes the 8 look cleaner/elegant.
@@KN-jw7ts Happy to hear you agree! The side blade and side skirt really makes a huge difference. The V8 just looks so naturally sculpted compared to the V10. My Scirocco R has a very similar side skirt as the V10 and there it looks a bit fun and playful, but I wouldn't want one on my R8 😅
I actually prefer the new one, gives me more quattro vibes with the more square angles, one of the few modern cars I like.
I am talking about the version before the facelift that you look at in the video
Been looking forward to this breakdown! Agreed all around.
Do u think it would b possible 2 blend the 2 designs together and create a balance between elegance and aggression? Because if so, I think that would have made this car look better. Most cars either go completely one way or the other. It would have been nice 2 c a car that tries 2 strike a balance between the 2 design philosophies 4 once
Please make the video about Mazda MX-5 (ND) and FIAT 124 Spider. Which one of this gorgeous roadsters you would buy and why?
They nailed it with the blade. An elongate monster.
Unpopular opinion: the R8 saved Audi. Pre R8, Audi looked sad and dumb. Without that stylish and futuristic facelift to the whole Audi lineup, it would have been no match compared to BMW/Mercedes
also the a5 from 2007 + 2010 a7 sportback + 2009 a5 sportback + tt from 2006 . There cars started to be more original , creative , exciting. They used to be bland but they’ve woken and realized that there lineup was bland and boring. Without these models i would never bat an eye to audi.
Doug DeMuro made a video talking about that, he talked about how after the R8 came out Audi styled their other cars based on the R8’s features which ended up massively benefitting Audi.
May be you are one of those who like pretentious passive-agressive styling intended to show status. Audi is going in this direction recently. But they sacrificed too much of elegance.
@@offspring9463 Original Audi A7 was trying to be original, but it also had a huge load of this crude, passive-agressive vibe. Especially rear end. It looks so vulgar and heavy in contrast to the smooth roof line, that it feels incoherent
The same thing happens with the Audi TT. First generation looks a lot better than the last one.
Second gen mk2 was the best looking tt in my opinion 🔥
@@randycorrales1 it looks great and much more modern than the first gen. But to me the original has an architechtural design based on straitght and curved lines that makes it very special. It can look dated but I still remember the first time I saw 1995 TT concept car… it had a big impact on me!
You should make a front engined GT R8, We would love to see such a thing
whats cool is that they added the same style LED headlights you see in the concept to their gt3 cars in 2018-2019
I remember when I was in 2nd grade back in 2006 I noticed an Audi TT for the first time, I lost my shit. I got excited because to me it was the coolest car on the road it just had this insanely unique presence that I hadn't seen before! Then the R8 came out and inevitably became my favourite car because it was basically a supercar version of the TT it was the most beautiful car to me. Yes I loved Ferrari and Lamborghini but those were modern race inspired supercars, the R8 was so futuristic and exotic that to me was in a completely different league of its own. Still to this day the 2014 R8 V10 Plus is my dream car! And I can agree that the new R8's lost its futuristic and elegant appeal which is sad
The old side panel look is so much better!!! That was probably the main trademark of the R8 imo, when the R8 was first introduced. The old side panel is so unique and looks so darn good.
Can anybody tell me what spoiler that is on the blue gen 1?
Exactly 100%. To me, the 1st gen 2014 version is the best, I feel like the current generation is trying to be a lambo. I will get me a R8 1st gen 2014, that one feels different than a lambo or a Rari, when you see an Bentley Continental GT 2012 feels classy and elegant, the R8 1st gen looks kinda like that but in a sporty way. But on this current gen, I feel like they ruin that, If I want a lambo I get a lambo, if they keep going this way with the R8, it will become the car that you get when you can't get yourself a lambo. A sad route for one of the most beautiful cars out there.
I also like the older R8 more, however we should also remember, that the new R8 is completely new car and is the sibling of the Huracan. So I'm not quite sure, that it was possible to make a satisfactory evolution of the original design with the new platform.
Where did you get your tshirt from brah love it
Same thing with q7, the 2012 (1st gen facelift) one was much cleaner and elegant than 2017+
Wish they would make the Nuvolari as a front engined v10. What do you think it would look like?
I am in love with the design gen 1 Audi r8 pre facelift, it's the perfect mix of elegance and menacing stare. With the second gen tho they tried too hard to be Lamborghini
Spot on, spot on.
I like the current gen.the only thing I would change is the side blade.i would keep the old single sideblade
💯 agree with this. New one is overwrought. Hope to own a gen 1 one day!
1st gen R8 looks better, no doubt, didn't remember the LeMans Concept , thought initially of the RSQ. And speaking of Noble, I would like to know your opinion of the recently launched M500, which looks weird to me because of the 'off the shelf' elements and maybe 'copy/paste design' (?).
One day I will have a 1st gen facelift manual V10. It's my absolute dream car.
How old are you? I'm over 50 and have a mint example of a 2014 r8 V10 6MT
@@drj7328 Hah im only 19 man, so don't exactly have the funds yet, otherwise I would definitely be buying one now😅😅. Hopefully they won't explode in value when I have the money.
@@yousufzahid6949 No worries I won't be selling it for at least 10 years. Save up lol
@@drj7328 Ahahahah perfect man! The grind starts now 👍
Great video
Totally agree.
Don't reckon the new one looks bad I just reckon they should give the whole car a re do
Gen 1 facelift is the best looking R8 to me...I guess I'm a little biased.
1st gen was amazing, way ahead of it’s time. 2nd gen is a great update, but I think they nailed it on 2019 with the updated grille inlet slits that tie back to the original Audi Sport Quattro. I agree second gen including 2019+ is innovation vs revolution but that’s a natural cycle of design and they did a great job with the R8. I don’t think they did a very good job on most other Audi models like A4/A5 lines, the RS6 is great.
I get what you're saying and I agree that it's sad. I like the old r8 way better too. Yet I think the change was intentional. When you compare the other cars with each other, you see that nowadays all the cars have that kind of aggressiv look to them. Back in the days they all had these soft shapes. So I guess it's just the overall design language of Audi that is reflected in the R8s
Currently have a 2018 Gen2. Had a Gen1 GT years ago, and I agree I loved the design of the Gen1 and also how it drove. Gen2 is definitely faster but doesn't have a soul. and the design is meh. Only good thing is I have bluetooth now. lol
If audi got what they're doing now and just went back to they're smooth lines, I'd cry
Personally I prefer the newer gen because of its aggressiveness. I love both generations but the previous gen only looks good if it's in its LMS GT3 variant, SR66 Design bodykit, or the Liberty Walk widebody kit. Same would also apply with the current generation because stock is boring.
Anything to be more race car rather than have elegance/luxury feels, gotta have that GT wing. I totally get it with the whole Lambo-oriented designs as you mentioned.
If I gave you the names of some of the electric S UV's coming out would you give me your perspective on their design?
The 2nd gen pre-facelift will probably be my favorite R8 unless they somehow make a better looking one.
The facelift kills it though.
Bring back the silver part behind the door
l love your videos and i think the old r8 looks better
this is the case with older audis in general. especially the older a4s, a6s and a7s
Personally I liked the pre-facelift 2nd gen r8 as much as the 1st gen but they took a large step back with the facelift on the 2nd gen
Couldn't agree more!!
2015 Audi R8 was the peak R8 and it is a timeless design
The new one kinda resembles an aggressive camaro, not similar but it reminds me of it with the way the grille and the headlights are formed
How you can talk about the R8 without mentioning the TT is mind boggling.
i absolutely agree with everything said in this vid
The perfect R8 would be the new gen roof over the old gen body. It would blend really good and have that sporty noble m600 look with those super elegant lines that audi used to use. My fav audi was the c6 RS6 that looked 0 agressive and really elegnt. Today's audi rs6 is called porsche panamera sport turismo as it is the only car that captures that design elements for elegance and speed.
I like the newest the most because it is the most like supercar.
Can we see a review of the new Opel Astra
Love how the older R8 looks more futuristic than the new one.
Also I don't really like these angular cars, at least not on every car and there aren't many brands that don't use these kind of design language but Mazda is one of those and I think their cars look really elegant.
The latest generations looks like they hugely influenced by ironman. I think the marketing of the car is also that if you want to feel like Ironman, get an r8. Cuz it feels like you wearing one of his armours with similar styling and late tech. It is a very powerful communication aspect, it just works. But the first gen R8 is truly an icon.
The old design is super duper timeless, and the definitive audi car
I think the blade is a signature graphic of the audi r8
The old one is definitely better looking but as someone who only has space for one car I would definitely go with the new one. The technology is just miles better.
i love the interior of the newer one because it is so simple but exterior i agree the first looked better however i still like the newer one as well
Yeah I like the facelift previous gen R8 also very good. Sadly you never see them.
1st gen R8 is my poster car, absolute fantastic car! Gen 2 and gen 3 arent that nice, seems like it lost it's original style. The V10 is definitely an upgrade from the V8 with only a few minor design changes. Plus now they are semi affordable. Hopefully in the next few years