@@clarac.2080 in a old chapter. germany makes a wish to a shooting star, and in that wish he says that he wants the government to be changed. Plus, in a part of the manga he says that his boss is crazy or sum like that
As someone who has interacted with the Hetalia Fandom I can say it's a lot better nowadays there's arguably less cringy 13 year Olds who think nazis are cool or whatever
@@TheKillerDoll Hate to break it to you but someone on Twitter, I think, made some questionable art of Ukraine and Russia from Hetalia in response to the Ukrainian War.
True, it's not as bad anymore, all of them went to the Countryhumans fandom. Also that's kinda surprising because fandoms rarely get batter, they mainly get worse
I remember 14 y/o me stumbling across nsfw Italy x Germany doujinshi in which Germany proceeds to burn a goddamn nazi symbol into Italy’s skin. What the FUCK was this fandom
@@TheKillerDoll The fan comics were full of the most truly deplorable shit, and that’s not even getting started on the multitude of baby south Italy x Spain stuff.
Yeah, its a fact that the characters have to follow what their bosses say and do but essentially have no choice or will in the matter even though they dislike the boss
Seeing these reviews makes me glad I joined this fandom as late as I did. That is messed up, and I do not associate myself with it. And it’s sad because no matter how much we sweep that under the carpet hoping time will patch it up, it’s never going to. This will always stain the fandom, along with... _other things_. But give credit where it’s due, the fandom is soooooo much better now and I am lovin it. Ba da ba ba ba! All that is hopefully behind us. Hooray!
Me too, I joined the fandom 4 month ago and right now in Instagram and RUclips people are way chiller. Not joining Tumblr tho because I think that specially in that social people are toxic (also that site is basically dying)
as someone who was into hetalia, was apart of the production of dreamtalia, and is friends with the creator of 23.5...... this was not something i was expecting to see in my 2022
HOW did someone write the words "good morning, adolf" and not stop to think "huh this is a bit fucked up" ironically the show goes out of its way to avoid the darker sides of history, which makes sense since its meant to be a light-hearted comedy. the fandom on the other hand....
I started watching Hetalia with my Discord Server a few weeks back, weirdest show on the planet, we really like it, I couldn't have imagined that the fandom was THIS bad
Not anymore tbh. We’re VERY good nowadays. In the fandom it’s frowned upon to even mention Hitler or the holocaust. Nowadays there’s just minor references to history like in the comics. References to Brixity, maybe some other minor rebellions, etc.
idk if this is just me, but back then when i liked hetalia a super amount, i still never knew any of this was going on lmao? like the whole nazi stuff? and i was like a major hetalia fan and i’m so surprised that i was able to dodge this shit. i didn’t even hear about this nazi stuff until like last year in 2021 and i was so confused because i couldn’t understand why people would do those type of things. like what the fuck? but to be fair, i didn’t interact a whole lot with the hetalia fandom back then (or even now), and i only talked about it with my irl friends and maybe one or two online friends. the only “bad” thing that i remember happening back then for me personally was my friends and i being weebs since we were in middle school and shouting “pastaaaa~!” every two seconds and annoying everyone.
I like hetalia a lot…but I’m not a nazi supporter or a history fan and I don’t ship ppl, I just like the anime and the characters with there funny personality’s, and I like to draw them, I’m sure I’m not the only hetalia fan who is like this, It’s the small ducked up group that is the loudest
@@TheKillerDoll yeah ill give you that one. Deadman deserved more love than it got. BUT THE WAY YOU PULLED OUT THE KNIFE READY TO SHANK..... you're amazing Justine lmao
This makes me really sad I never knew how bad the fandom truly got if I’m being honest- I was only ever active on quotev, amino, and tumblr when it came to hetalia back in 2012-2015 and met some cool people back then- I kin Prussia but seeing people pose with nazis in a Prussia cosplay makes me feel absolutely sick to my stomach. 😢
Apart from the one infamous post on Twitter or whatever about Ukraine forcing a knife into Russia's hand and saying he was attacking her - (which I think this was made by someone who wasn't in the fandom at ALL. Just someone who jumped on the whole site praying the Hetalia fandom didn't make fanart about Russia invading Ukraine) - the Hetalia fandom actually is way better. People acknowledge the cringe and shitty past of the fandom and know it's wrong. Then again, despite the recent season 7 of the anime, there's like 13 people within the fandom still (at least on Tumblr, which is ironic since that's where the Hetalia fandom really boomed)
7:27 In 2019,a while before covid hit the world,a new fandom gained the attraction of the internet called"country humans" the fandom was kinda like hetalia, but worse ,it had no shame at all,since most of the fandom were little kids who didn't understand the seriousness of human history,stepping two foots into the fandom,will lead you to see countless fanarts of none other than the third Reich itself,a lot of them were ship art, which included Germany as soft UwU kawaii gay femboy country,i will not go into detail but one of the most popular ship was "sovietreich" (I'll let that sink in) with countless fanfiction filled with grape, gore, torture, Stockholm syndrome,and a very wrong representation of the countries , a good example of this would be the infamous,sovietreich fanfiction "was always mine"which the creator deleted due to the harassment coming from the r/ country humans cringe subreddit(which is now deactivated) and due to mental health issues I don't why I made this comment :/
Tbf, I've seen stuff from hetalia and read some pretty classic hetalia fics with all the old tropes typical of the fandom at the time. Nothing prepared me for what I saw regarding countryhumans holy hell.
I was in Countryhumans before hetalia and…. Oh boy. The fact I knew a bit of history but still partook in ch scares me. Honestly I don’t think I did anything with Nazi and Soviet (aside from giving them a lovers to enemies story, so backwards.) I literally hate myself 💀💀💀 I was also one of the people who drew Japan as a kawaii neko girl… big culture shock when I came to hetalia. The differences in character are shocking. Like in CH, Poland is shy usually, and mentally I’ll. While in hetalia he’s just a little queer 💀 I canttttr. Me in Countryhumans was weird tbh. Cuz I was an AVID RusAme shipper. It’s not like I’m against it by any means nowadays, but the media I consumed was straight garbage. Like Russia was practically abusive and America was a femboy send help
I've been in the hetalia fandom for quite some time now(and still am) and it was a total trainwreck. And that time when I saw people making nazi cosplays and fanart of Germany and Prussia being nazi's left me speechless. I was really embarrassed by ppl In the fandom that time. It was kind of a waste cause the anime was really good (it got me interested in history lol) but the fandom was shitty. Sometimes I liked to Imagine the hetalia characters reacting to the chaoticness of the fandom and then going like "what have we done😟" OH AND THE SHIPPING WARS, DEAR LORD. But I'm glad the fandom has calmed down now, it's all chill I guess.
I really love Hetalia but I don’t think the fandom is going to change because it’s been a few days ( I think) that the queen Elizabeth dies and now I can’t even go to any Hetalia tags on tumblr without seeing the queen is dead meme along with England crying nonstop. I hate when the Hetalia fandom mix the show with reality
Tbf, I've seen those. A massive chunk of that is 100% the fans ironically taking the piss out of the whole thing because had this been a decade ago? You would have seen that shit unironically. The fandom is very aware of its past and revels in making fun of it lol
Hey! Hetalia fan here, the fandom is so much better now- thank god. It still disgusts me how many KIDS were making these decisions… The anime (basically) never references it, and it’s gross how kids made art of it. I can’t imagine how the VAs felt that their silly little characters were…. Doing.. that crap. Anyways, it seems that the relatively bad part of the fandom has moved on, and I’m glad
im left with a few thoughts, as someone who used to be in the fandom 1. im so glad ive gone down the history lover route instead of the nazi fanfic route. 2. i thought id be desensitized enough to be completely unphased by that fanfic reading, but im glad to know what i still have enough sanity left to be in shock and disbelief in what in was hearing. im glad this side of the fandom wasnt as relevant when i was in the hetalia fandom. or if it was, at least middle school me didnt come across it.
Being a german cosplayer who also was/is in the Hetalia fandom I have to say that the whole nazi content thing was never present at conventions in well... Germany! Hell you can actually go to jail for that... what I found is actually this kind of fanfics and there might also be some ffs with the current ongoing war in Ukraine... it's just.... I cannot and will never understand
Honestly same, its a guilty pleasure anime for me (personally i think i just like how fast paced it is and its not like you need to watch all of them back to back to enjoy it)
@@TheKillerDoll yeah, hetalia was a huge part of my life. I'm sure if you did a follow up video it would get alot of views. lmk if you want a story because back in middle school I had a Prussia cosplayer during Halloween that made her mark on the school forever. 🥶
CW THIS HAS MURDER I remember like a month ago I read a Gerita fanfic on wattpad. I don't remember what it was called but I don't want to because MEIN GOTT IT WAS BAD. It had Germany and Italy in the setting of a fucking concentration camp. In the first paragraph Germany shot and killed a 10 year old Jewish boy because he smiled on his fucking birthday. Also there was smut and it was bad. I think it ended with them either being caught by the allies and hung for their crimes, or it ended with them being caught as gay and then some other Nazis hung them. Pretty fucked up story to say the least. I hate everything 😭
I know there's a hell lot of bad stuff in Hetalia but I just want to take time and give credit to the fanfic writers that wrote the characters with their canon personalities and made it historically accurate. I mean when writing fanfic that needs historical accuracy, especially with a show like this, can be really hard because there are a lot of walls that can be hit.
Changing a personality a bit was still better retaining a personality form canon one, Sweden, Norway and Iceland are bunch of emotionless and smileless twats doesn't know how to smile and show happiness
...Poland...I apologize for the sake of the other anime,only because of one character you completely reject other anime because of the trauma(cringe?)😅
I was like 13-14 in the fandom and we all pretended to be characters at school or when playing together. I was always Canada, my friends were America, Russia, France, and Italy. It was so fun, but looking back, it was so embarrassing. Also loved the whole 2P! character concept.
This is pretty beyond fucked up. There should have been some common sense and consideration from the cosplayers to respect to the victims involved due to holocaust.
It's been such a long time since some fans talk (again) about the darkside hetalia fandom. But im happy though seeing someone still remember hetalia,like it's diamond in the dust. Thankyou for make me remember again old times XD
As a Hetalian in 2024, I PROMISE WITH MY SOUL that the fandom is a lot more calm these days. It truly is disgusting what these cosplayers, artists and fanfic writers did, especially with all the n@zi crap. Luckily, I happened to go down the history nerd path but I really hate the other people in the fandom who use history in THIS way, when it's not supposed to be. Even though I do love history, I stay out of the part of the fandom because I really don't trust it. This fandom has seen some of the worst things (neo n@zi stuff, shipping wars, ect) and I'm glad to say, this stuff has much MUCH smaller portions of the people in it, if any. This stuff is horrible and gross to do/draw/write and not something you wanna do. Now, I don't know if someone did make something about the Ukrainian/Russian war or the Palestine/Israel conflict but I really hope not, it'd really stupid if they did. TLDR, the fandom is calmer and chill than before. Now, it's just about history buffs (like me) cracking history jokes, talking about countries and cultures they are interested in along with languages they want to learn/know and the personified countries just being complete idiots. To any new fans, please be mindful of what you create and add to the fandom. To the older ones, please make sure others are being respectful about history and let the newer ones know if they're doing any of these things are stupid and they shouldn't be doing that and lead they down the correct path in the forest that Hetalia brings you to.
As a german person that used to be part of that fandom years ago as a dumb kid, it‘s certainly very ugly in terms of how the series itself blatantly erases the ww2 stuff for being „too disturbing“ but also the nazi shit was always a thing that ppl kinda desensitized in the fandom even in germany wich was hella nasty. Although I never really saw anyone here cosplay with the straight up nazi uniforms but still it‘s just a wild can of worms. Not to mention as well all the pedo stuff ppl would always glorify and stuff or the weird russia prussia abuse relationship obsession people had wich was related to how germany was split I guess but yeah it was just really weird looking back and I‘m still feeling quite aweful remembering it all. It just feels so nasty and cringe to me now and I‘m not even a person to be like „ew cringe!“ when it comes to other fandoms being cringy cause I see that usually as just harmless fun of children or teens. But hetalia was just too extreme in retrospect. It‘s such a gross disrespectful „comedy“ of history and nationality drenched in ugly stereotypes and weird fujoshi bait and I really just feel like gagging when I remember it now. Yes. It was THAT bad yall! I mean even the country humans thing feels less bad to me for some reason. But that‘s a low bar! God! I just wish we all didn‘t get into that phase. It was so not worth it lmao
proud to say that the hetalia fandom got a whole factory reset, the UkUs shippers finally understood that it's weird to pair them, nazi's arent cool.............. and theyve fixed most of their flaws! its really calm now, not as lively as it was back then, but WAYYYYYYYYY better now!
i need to know how the modern fandom feels about finland cus i have not interacted w this fandom in like 10 years and i literally only cared about finland 😭
This video brings me back memories when I was in the Hetalia fandom in 2013-early 2015, I honestly didn't know about these incidents but I do still know seeing fan art of Germany and Prussia as Nazis....yeah that's fucked up. I got in the fandom in the first place is due to one of my old friends (whom I lost contact after middle school) introduced Hetalia to me in 7th grade. I still remember this one girl that I knew was a huge Germany fangirl btw. I also still remember reading extremely cringey Hetalia fanfics on both fanfiction net and wattpad (very rarely read fanfics on the latter). I should've known that this fandom was bad but I never interacted with other fans in the fandom back then, I'm no longer in the Hetalia fandom to this day but I do still have some fond memories of watching that anime
as someone who was a cringe little kid who was in this fandom, i remember going to a convention dressed as Canada and...well a group of older women (older then me at the time probably 20's-30's) in Hetalia costume having me go around with them (yes these where strangers) They then had me give them my phone number and convinced me i should meet them for another convention that was miles away...im so glad my parents did not give me the money for that train ticket cos hek knows what would have happened :/
I still kind of,, lurk in the Hetalia fandom. I wasn't ever really an active participant. I remember hearing all about the bad things that would happen in terms of arguements and disrespect. I'm glad I wasn't really super engaged with that show honestly. I'm still super attached to aph Lithuania to this day though :')
As someone in the Hetalia fandom (and trying to at least recruit one new Hetalian in these new times were it’s a practically dead fandom) I don’t claim them as Hetalian, y’all can keep him, and I will never. 6:12 SAME
Cosplayed Italy in 2010 and the con I was at had an actually really chill hetalia fandom. Zero tolerance at photo shoots for being an idiot, would teach etiquette on things that while intended to be innocent were offensive and should not be done, zero tolerance for non consenting touching. Made it a really good experience because it was just history nerds in cosplay
Goodness, you brought up memories I wanted to forget. But hey this video is very well done and glad I was part of the respectful part of the fandom. As much as I cringe at past me who was absolutely obsessed with Hetalia, I have to say I’m thankful for the manga and anime for getting me into cosplay, history, learning languages and different cultures.
Hey ! To anyone here around 2024, I'm back in the fandom. I found out about hetalia 6 years ago, so lucky me i didn't know much about that dark period. But now I'm glad to see that the fandom is mostly artist and chill people who still love to read Himaruya's scan. I feel like the fandom is way less around the anime and i prefer it this way. And if anyone today is in this fandom, welcome ! :D
i was into hetalia around 2013-2015 and i am SO glad i only cared abt the nordic characters (honestly really just finland lmao)😭😭😭 my memory of the hetalia fandom is like: dog named Flower Egg (hanatamago finlands dog), sweden and finland "adopting" sealand, norway's phone hair pain, finland being santa, etc lol (also some sufin fanfic that seemed like the author REALLY wanted salad flavored gelato to be a thing)
I just started getting into hetalia and Germany is my favorite character because of my German ancestry and I just really like him so I’m glad the fandom is better now.
Used to be into Hetalia and my family is Italian. My ex tho.... she never used my name only names from fandoms. She tried to call me a name from Hetalia but was upset that she couldnt be Italy (I didnt even want a nickname) so she pressured me into going by Germany.... After cheating once WITH MULTIPLE PEOPLE she tried to convince me to forgive her with a "love note" from "italy to germany". Safe to say I've cut all contact.
been in the hetalia fandom for nearly a decade,,,,, from cringy tween to cringy adult, i’ve seen many horrors, and it’s great to see it all encapsulated in one video lmao. most of the biggest issues have shifted to other fandoms, but i*cest ships are still pretty common, at least within the eastern side of things (aka i don’t see much on western social media, maybe the occasional fix on ao3, but the moment i check pixiv or search up new doujins, boom! i*cest!) ^_^’’
ive known hetalia for around 7 years now. i can confirm that once you get into hetalia, its stuck with you forever. even if you manage to escape the fandom, you cant escape hetalia. till this day i still sometimes imagine the characters instead of the actual countries.
This was probably in part due to the terrible dub, where it made a bad joke about the holocaust that was never in the original. I think the dub brought a lot of idiot fans that were in it for the awful attempt at humour (that changed canon dialogue) and these people didn’t care at all about learning the actual history.
Its so super weird that germany cosplayers were doing nazi stuff when germany himself is never seen as a nazi. I mean there is a slight glimse at Germanys boss being hitler but nazism itself is never reflected in Germany as a character.
I dont know if “loving” is necessary the right word for it BUT they sure as shit were dressing up as them and making fanart of Germany and Prussia as Nazis seemingly often🙃
If you would watch kolkos introduction to the fandom video you would learn that this video is actually a LOT better then it was back in 2009-2014 mainly because most of the bad people grew up and got out of the fandom and if there is a newbie doing something bad it’s usually the veterans of the fandom that stop the behavior so yeah it is actually kinda tame compared to other anime fandoms
when I was in middle schooler I thought it was all fine cosplaying Nazis and especially how my friend supported them. I didnt Cosplay or knew Nazis or supported them, I just enjoy the series and ship incest without learning that it's not okay. I felt cringe and ashame at my younger self even after learning ww2 / how gross incest is. I wish I learnt better I used to ship Us + Can / Us + Uk 😬 yeah that's cringe middle school me 😅
Unfortunately, my most intense and long drawn out fffffANDOM, was hetalia with an ex-friend. Thank, GOD, we didn’t go on forums or something and end up being indoctrinated by neo-nazis. No, just my ex friend shipping countries like dolls in a doll house, and me writing self- 🤢 self-inserts with them like it was A THING to do. And listen self-inserts are nice and great and I think you should be able to enjoy yourself but the problem HERE is that it was a personification of a country that- Well we don’t need to get into it. Don’t worry about it. Everyone shut up forever.
I love the dub of hetalia. At the end of the day its a comedy anime. Its meant to be satire and all comedy shouldn’t be taken seriously. Its just a joke. I find it funny but i dont agree with what they say or do in real life. Its just dark humour and if you dont like it dont watch it lol. But I agree that the fandom is toxic. Its mostly the fandom and not the anime itself. Im 27 so i know whats a joke and what’s inappropriate in rl. Take fawlty towers for example it made some Questionable jokes about N**** and Germany but its still one of the funniest moments in comedy to this day. If people cant tell the difference between a joke and whats rl then its on them.
Yeah, I never really got how people were so offended by hetalia. It's just supposed to be a comedy, nothing really serious. Like, I'm American, and I think it's really funny how he's portrayed as an arrogant idiot who eats too much 😭 cause I know at the end of the day it's not 100% true and I'm able to laugh at the absurdity of it. Satire is satire, y'know?
I knew some people online who were more libertine about the nazi and other darker elements. I would see but honestly I didn’t care either way. I wouldn’t be in that photo but that’s part of history. And it was somewhat of a fetish
I have been a fan of Hetalia for 5 years, I love the stories, BUT I HATE OC SHIPPING IN HETALIA. Things that I hate/dislike in the Hetalia fandom: 1. one person who created the ship Germany x Oc (the federal state of Germany but I won't say which one because I don't want that person to find this comment, but the name of the country starts with the letter "B" and ends with the letter "A"). This person has denied many times that this OC is not related to Germany because it used to be a Slavic state and hides behind the fact that they are studying history (I asked my History teacher whether this federal state of Germany is related to Germany and the History teacher said - "yes"). Most often, OCs are created because a person makes a self-insert in order to ship himself (i.e. self-insert OC) with a given country. 2. I hate how the fandom is not interested in history and only argues about some idiotic ships. 3. I know one fan of a certain country and I used to be hyperfixated on it I managed to taste the culture of this country, I started collecting information about this country, learning the history of this country and I even tried to learn the language of this country, I collected most information about this country (in terms of Himaruya's blogs), I tried to learn new songs from this country (I love Greek songs and especially the 80s❤). This person was not interested in anything and was only interested in the character, did not deepen any knowledge about this character, did not even want to know the lore of this character in terms of Hetalia (which is strange if you are hyperfixated on a given character) and was delighted with its appearance and created a healthy relationship with this character. 4. Referring only to the historical evidence presented by Hima (which is often wrong) I still love Hetalia but the fandom is ehh.... So now I'm focusing more on Harry Potter, like, that series calms me down...
I’m sorry, I know a lot of those cosplayers shouldn’t have done what the did, but the way fact that you went out of your way to show the faces of people purposefully blocked out for their safety rather disgusts me. A lot of this stuff is old, and I’m sure many of this people have grown up and realized how offensive they were. They have their faces blocked to protect them from being harassed and doxxed. You’re tone doesn’t help it either. Again, I’m sorry, but it genuinely made me uncomfortable with the way you showed these pictures from over 10 years ago with your sassy remarks and mannerisms.
I hate the fact that they make Germany a nazi and make it look cool in fanfics, when in CANON germany hates hitler...😕
Yeah germany even during world war 2 we never see him be portrayed as a nazi.
Wait when does he say that ? They never mention Hitler in the show as far as I know ?
@@clarac.2080 in a old chapter. germany makes a wish to a shooting star, and in that wish he says that he wants the government to be changed. Plus, in a part of the manga he says that his boss is crazy or sum like that
@@Sternmai in the shooting star chapter where the star ends up hitting England ?
@@clarac.2080 yeah
As someone who has interacted with the Hetalia Fandom I can say it's a lot better nowadays there's arguably less cringy 13 year Olds who think nazis are cool or whatever
Thank god, cause truly if i saw anything from the fandom regarding the current war in Ukraine i would commit actual manslaughter
That's good to hear
@@TheKillerDoll Hate to break it to you but someone on Twitter, I think, made some questionable art of Ukraine and Russia from Hetalia in response to the Ukrainian War.
True, it's not as bad anymore, all of them went to the Countryhumans fandom. Also that's kinda surprising because fandoms rarely get batter, they mainly get worse
@@platinummew3887 it was tumblr, and it was a russian pushing pro rus content
I remember 14 y/o me stumbling across nsfw Italy x Germany doujinshi in which Germany proceeds to burn a goddamn nazi symbol into Italy’s skin. What the FUCK was this fandom
Im gonna pretend i didnt read this because dude what the FUCK
@@TheKillerDoll The fan comics were full of the most truly deplorable shit, and that’s not even getting started on the multitude of baby south Italy x Spain stuff.
what the fuck? god damn i fucking hate it here
Holy-
WHY DOES THAT EVEN EXIST?!
jaw dropped while reading that comment
They make Germany like nazism,but didn't germany say in an episode that he thought that that hitler "guy" was weird
Yeah, its a fact that the characters have to follow what their bosses say and do but essentially have no choice or will in the matter even though they dislike the boss
@@gilliantoh4658 "I was just following orders."
Seeing these reviews makes me glad I joined this fandom as late as I did. That is messed up, and I do not associate myself with it. And it’s sad because no matter how much we sweep that under the carpet hoping time will patch it up, it’s never going to. This will always stain the fandom, along with... _other things_.
But give credit where it’s due, the fandom is soooooo much better now and I am lovin it. Ba da ba ba ba! All that is hopefully behind us. Hooray!
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Me too, I joined the fandom 4 month ago and right now in Instagram and RUclips people are way chiller. Not joining Tumblr tho because I think that specially in that social people are toxic (also that site is basically dying)
Same!! I joined in January 2020. I really enjoy being on Reddit tbh.
as someone who was into hetalia, was apart of the production of dreamtalia, and is friends with the creator of 23.5...... this was not something i was expecting to see in my 2022
Gotta have a massive throwback to the 2010’s and relive (or in my case learn about) some nightmares every now and then
YOU 🫵🫵🫵 YOU WERE MY CHILDHOOD???!!
This is why I hate fandoms in general. Happy to hear it got better for Hetalia though...
HOW did someone write the words "good morning, adolf" and not stop to think "huh this is a bit fucked up"
ironically the show goes out of its way to avoid the darker sides of history, which makes sense since its meant to be a light-hearted comedy. the fandom on the other hand....
I started watching Hetalia with my Discord Server a few weeks back, weirdest show on the planet, we really like it, I couldn't have imagined that the fandom was THIS bad
Not anymore tbh. We’re VERY good nowadays. In the fandom it’s frowned upon to even mention Hitler or the holocaust. Nowadays there’s just minor references to history like in the comics. References to Brixity, maybe some other minor rebellions, etc.
idk if this is just me, but back then when i liked hetalia a super amount, i still never knew any of this was going on lmao? like the whole nazi stuff? and i was like a major hetalia fan and i’m so surprised that i was able to dodge this shit. i didn’t even hear about this nazi stuff until like last year in 2021 and i was so confused because i couldn’t understand why people would do those type of things. like what the fuck? but to be fair, i didn’t interact a whole lot with the hetalia fandom back then (or even now), and i only talked about it with my irl friends and maybe one or two online friends. the only “bad” thing that i remember happening back then for me personally was my friends and i being weebs since we were in middle school and shouting “pastaaaa~!” every two seconds and annoying everyone.
Same, I also don't know how I dodged all this stuff, it's pretty surprising.
I like hetalia a lot…but I’m not a nazi supporter or a history fan and I don’t ship ppl, I just like the anime and the characters with there funny personality’s, and I like to draw them, I’m sure I’m not the only hetalia fan who is like this, It’s the small ducked up group that is the loudest
THE WAY YOU FUCKING YEETED THOSE DVDS INTO OBLIVION AND COMPLETELY DENOUNCED THEM LMAOOO.
But yeah......I'm so sorry for this. I just.....I cannot
THE ONLY ONE THAT DIDNT DESERVE THAT WAS DEADMAN WONDERLAND, THAT ONE SEASON WONDER DESERVED BETTER😭
@@TheKillerDoll yeah ill give you that one. Deadman deserved more love than it got. BUT THE WAY YOU PULLED OUT THE KNIFE READY TO SHANK..... you're amazing Justine lmao
This makes me really sad I never knew how bad the fandom truly got if I’m being honest- I was only ever active on quotev, amino, and tumblr when it came to hetalia back in 2012-2015 and met some cool people back then- I kin Prussia but seeing people pose with nazis in a Prussia cosplay makes me feel absolutely sick to my stomach. 😢
Apart from the one infamous post on Twitter or whatever about Ukraine forcing a knife into Russia's hand and saying he was attacking her - (which I think this was made by someone who wasn't in the fandom at ALL. Just someone who jumped on the whole site praying the Hetalia fandom didn't make fanart about Russia invading Ukraine) - the Hetalia fandom actually is way better. People acknowledge the cringe and shitty past of the fandom and know it's wrong. Then again, despite the recent season 7 of the anime, there's like 13 people within the fandom still (at least on Tumblr, which is ironic since that's where the Hetalia fandom really boomed)
Not the fate of everyone, I became punk because of my intense hyperfixation on England 🤣🤣
i love hetalia lol. the fandom is so chill now
LMAOOO FUCKIN HETALIA NAAAAUR
i’m preparing to blush and cringe at my sophomore year days
Literally same, this was the throwback i didnt need when finding out all this
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In 2019,a while before covid hit the world,a new fandom gained the attraction of the internet called"country humans" the fandom was kinda like hetalia, but worse ,it had no shame at all,since most of the fandom were little kids who didn't understand the seriousness of human history,stepping two foots into the fandom,will lead you to see countless fanarts of none other than the third Reich itself,a lot of them were ship art, which included Germany as soft UwU kawaii gay femboy country,i will not go into detail but one of the most popular ship was "sovietreich" (I'll let that sink in) with countless fanfiction filled with grape, gore, torture, Stockholm syndrome,and a very wrong representation of the countries , a good example of this would be the infamous,sovietreich fanfiction "was always mine"which the creator deleted due to the harassment coming from the r/ country humans cringe subreddit(which is now deactivated) and due to mental health issues
I don't why I made this comment :/
Tbf, I've seen stuff from hetalia and read some pretty classic hetalia fics with all the old tropes typical of the fandom at the time.
Nothing prepared me for what I saw regarding countryhumans holy hell.
I was in Countryhumans before hetalia and…. Oh boy. The fact I knew a bit of history but still partook in ch scares me. Honestly I don’t think I did anything with Nazi and Soviet (aside from giving them a lovers to enemies story, so backwards.) I literally hate myself 💀💀💀 I was also one of the people who drew Japan as a kawaii neko girl… big culture shock when I came to hetalia. The differences in character are shocking. Like in CH, Poland is shy usually, and mentally I’ll. While in hetalia he’s just a little queer 💀 I canttttr. Me in Countryhumans was weird tbh. Cuz I was an AVID RusAme shipper. It’s not like I’m against it by any means nowadays, but the media I consumed was straight garbage. Like Russia was practically abusive and America was a femboy send help
I've been in the hetalia fandom for quite some time now(and still am) and it was a total trainwreck.
And that time when I saw people making nazi cosplays and fanart of Germany and Prussia being nazi's left me speechless. I was really embarrassed by ppl In the fandom that time. It was kind of a waste cause the anime was really good (it got me interested in history lol) but the fandom was shitty.
Sometimes I liked to Imagine the hetalia characters reacting to the chaoticness of the fandom and then going like "what have we done😟"
OH AND THE SHIPPING WARS, DEAR LORD.
But I'm glad the fandom has calmed down now, it's all chill I guess.
I really love Hetalia but I don’t think the fandom is going to change because it’s been a few days ( I think) that the queen Elizabeth dies and now I can’t even go to any Hetalia tags on tumblr without seeing the queen is dead meme along with England crying nonstop. I hate when the Hetalia fandom mix the show with reality
Tbf, I've seen those. A massive chunk of that is 100% the fans ironically taking the piss out of the whole thing because had this been a decade ago? You would have seen that shit unironically.
The fandom is very aware of its past and revels in making fun of it lol
Hey! Hetalia fan here, the fandom is so much better now- thank god. It still disgusts me how many KIDS were making these decisions… The anime (basically) never references it, and it’s gross how kids made art of it. I can’t imagine how the VAs felt that their silly little characters were…. Doing.. that crap.
Anyways, it seems that the relatively bad part of the fandom has moved on, and I’m glad
I saw the thumbnail on the notification and my brain immediately tried to force me to forget what Hetalia was. Oh boy
You can never forget Hetalia, it was too memorable for significantly bad reasons
The words “Draw a circle” should classify you for a veterans discount
@@SimperingSimpleton_ *Wain no choudai?*
im left with a few thoughts, as someone who used to be in the fandom
1. im so glad ive gone down the history lover route instead of the nazi fanfic route.
2. i thought id be desensitized enough to be completely unphased by that fanfic reading, but im glad to know what i still have enough sanity left to be in shock and disbelief in what in was hearing.
im glad this side of the fandom wasnt as relevant when i was in the hetalia fandom. or if it was, at least middle school me didnt come across it.
Being a german cosplayer who also was/is in the Hetalia fandom I have to say that the whole nazi content thing was never present at conventions in well... Germany! Hell you can actually go to jail for that... what I found is actually this kind of fanfics and there might also be some ffs with the current ongoing war in Ukraine... it's just.... I cannot and will never understand
yeah I actually still rewatch hetalia there's just something about it that's really good
Honestly same, its a guilty pleasure anime for me (personally i think i just like how fast paced it is and its not like you need to watch all of them back to back to enjoy it)
@@TheKillerDoll yeah, hetalia was a huge part of my life. I'm sure if you did a follow up video it would get alot of views. lmk if you want a story because back in middle school I had a Prussia cosplayer during Halloween that made her mark on the school forever. 🥶
CW THIS HAS MURDER
I remember like a month ago I read a Gerita fanfic on wattpad. I don't remember what it was called but I don't want to because MEIN GOTT IT WAS BAD. It had Germany and Italy in the setting of a fucking concentration camp. In the first paragraph Germany shot and killed a 10 year old Jewish boy because he smiled on his fucking birthday. Also there was smut and it was bad. I think it ended with them either being caught by the allies and hung for their crimes, or it ended with them being caught as gay and then some other Nazis hung them. Pretty fucked up story to say the least. I hate everything 😭
I know there's a hell lot of bad stuff in Hetalia but I just want to take time and give credit to the fanfic writers that wrote the characters with their canon personalities and made it historically accurate. I mean when writing fanfic that needs historical accuracy, especially with a show like this, can be really hard because there are a lot of walls that can be hit.
Changing a personality a bit was still better retaining a personality form canon one, Sweden, Norway and Iceland are bunch of emotionless and smileless twats doesn't know how to smile and show happiness
One day you’re watching Anime and the next you’re cosplaying as a National Socialist… some steps along the way got really twisted
I think we had to of missed a step somewhere, or like got separate instructions on how to be an anime fan
@@TheKillerDoll some took the wrong turn when becoming otakus
I'm 14, and I'm SO grateful I joined the fandom late.🥳🥳
Same
Honestly, I looked into it, but when I found out my country was a femboy I left all anime forever.
...Poland...I apologize for the sake of the other anime,only because of one character you completely reject other anime because of the trauma(cringe?)😅
I was like 13-14 in the fandom and we all pretended to be characters at school or when playing together. I was always Canada, my friends were America, Russia, France, and Italy. It was so fun, but looking back, it was so embarrassing. Also loved the whole 2P! character concept.
This is pretty beyond fucked up. There should have been some common sense and consideration from the cosplayers to respect to the victims involved due to holocaust.
It's been such a long time since some fans talk (again) about the darkside hetalia fandom.
But im happy though seeing someone still remember hetalia,like it's diamond in the dust.
Thankyou for make me remember again old times XD
As a Hetalian in 2024, I PROMISE WITH MY SOUL that the fandom is a lot more calm these days. It truly is disgusting what these cosplayers, artists and fanfic writers did, especially with all the n@zi crap. Luckily, I happened to go down the history nerd path but I really hate the other people in the fandom who use history in THIS way, when it's not supposed to be. Even though I do love history, I stay out of the part of the fandom because I really don't trust it. This fandom has seen some of the worst things (neo n@zi stuff, shipping wars, ect) and I'm glad to say, this stuff has much MUCH smaller portions of the people in it, if any. This stuff is horrible and gross to do/draw/write and not something you wanna do. Now, I don't know if someone did make something about the Ukrainian/Russian war or the Palestine/Israel conflict but I really hope not, it'd really stupid if they did.
TLDR, the fandom is calmer and chill than before. Now, it's just about history buffs (like me) cracking history jokes, talking about countries and cultures they are interested in along with languages they want to learn/know and the personified countries just being complete idiots.
To any new fans, please be mindful of what you create and add to the fandom. To the older ones, please make sure others are being respectful about history and let the newer ones know if they're doing any of these things are stupid and they shouldn't be doing that and lead they down the correct path in the forest that Hetalia brings you to.
As a german person that used to be part of that fandom years ago as a dumb kid, it‘s certainly very ugly in terms of how the series itself blatantly erases the ww2 stuff for being „too disturbing“ but also the nazi shit was always a thing that ppl kinda desensitized in the fandom even in germany wich was hella nasty. Although I never really saw anyone here cosplay with the straight up nazi uniforms but still it‘s just a wild can of worms. Not to mention as well all the pedo stuff ppl would always glorify and stuff or the weird russia prussia abuse relationship obsession people had wich was related to how germany was split I guess but yeah it was just really weird looking back and I‘m still feeling quite aweful remembering it all. It just feels so nasty and cringe to me now and I‘m not even a person to be like „ew cringe!“ when it comes to other fandoms being cringy cause I see that usually as just harmless fun of children or teens. But hetalia was just too extreme in retrospect. It‘s such a gross disrespectful „comedy“ of history and nationality drenched in ugly stereotypes and weird fujoshi bait and I really just feel like gagging when I remember it now. Yes. It was THAT bad yall! I mean even the country humans thing feels less bad to me for some reason. But that‘s a low bar! God! I just wish we all didn‘t get into that phase. It was so not worth it lmao
proud to say that the hetalia fandom got a whole factory reset, the UkUs shippers finally understood that it's weird to pair them, nazi's arent cool.............. and theyve fixed most of their flaws! its really calm now, not as lively as it was back then, but WAYYYYYYYYY better now!
i need to know how the modern fandom feels about finland cus i have not interacted w this fandom in like 10 years and i literally only cared about finland 😭
This video brings me back memories when I was in the Hetalia fandom in 2013-early 2015, I honestly didn't know about these incidents but I do still know seeing fan art of Germany and Prussia as Nazis....yeah that's fucked up. I got in the fandom in the first place is due to one of my old friends (whom I lost contact after middle school) introduced Hetalia to me in 7th grade. I still remember this one girl that I knew was a huge Germany fangirl btw. I also still remember reading extremely cringey Hetalia fanfics on both fanfiction net and wattpad (very rarely read fanfics on the latter). I should've known that this fandom was bad but I never interacted with other fans in the fandom back then, I'm no longer in the Hetalia fandom to this day but I do still have some fond memories of watching that anime
as someone who was a cringe little kid who was in this fandom, i remember going to a convention dressed as Canada and...well a group of older women (older then me at the time probably 20's-30's) in Hetalia costume having me go around with them (yes these where strangers)
They then had me give them my phone number and convinced me i should meet them for another convention that was miles away...im so glad my parents did not give me the money for that train ticket cos hek knows what would have happened :/
I still kind of,, lurk in the Hetalia fandom. I wasn't ever really an active participant. I remember hearing all about the bad things that would happen in terms of arguements and disrespect. I'm glad I wasn't really super engaged with that show honestly. I'm still super attached to aph Lithuania to this day though :')
the hetalia fandom now is great! its just a bunch of history/country nerds talking abt our fav anime boy twinkie countries now :3
As someone in the Hetalia fandom (and trying to at least recruit one new Hetalian in these new times were it’s a practically dead fandom) I don’t claim them as Hetalian, y’all can keep him, and I will never.
6:12 SAME
Im glad i joined late
Im NOT glad the reason is because when the fandom was still shit i was in a WORSE fandom aka countryhumans
I am so glad I stayed in the Canada side of this fandom
Cosplayed Italy in 2010 and the con I was at had an actually really chill hetalia fandom. Zero tolerance at photo shoots for being an idiot, would teach etiquette on things that while intended to be innocent were offensive and should not be done, zero tolerance for non consenting touching. Made it a really good experience because it was just history nerds in cosplay
Goodness, you brought up memories I wanted to forget. But hey this video is very well done and glad I was part of the respectful part of the fandom. As much as I cringe at past me who was absolutely obsessed with Hetalia, I have to say I’m thankful for the manga and anime for getting me into cosplay, history, learning languages and different cultures.
Wait until you hear About JoJo fans and Van Stroheim... Anime might have been a mistake probably, most likely.
And also some aot fans
Hey ! To anyone here around 2024, I'm back in the fandom. I found out about hetalia 6 years ago, so lucky me i didn't know much about that dark period. But now I'm glad to see that the fandom is mostly artist and chill people who still love to read Himaruya's scan. I feel like the fandom is way less around the anime and i prefer it this way. And if anyone today is in this fandom, welcome ! :D
I literally just found out about the show like 2 weeks ago and I'm in love-
i was into hetalia around 2013-2015 and i am SO glad i only cared abt the nordic characters (honestly really just finland lmao)😭😭😭 my memory of the hetalia fandom is like: dog named Flower Egg (hanatamago finlands dog), sweden and finland "adopting" sealand, norway's phone hair pain, finland being santa, etc lol (also some sufin fanfic that seemed like the author REALLY wanted salad flavored gelato to be a thing)
I've never heard of this Hetalia anime before, and I have a general knowledge of most anime.
I really love germany, he us my favorite character. It feels really nasty to know that people would make nazi cosplay of him
I just started getting into hetalia and Germany is my favorite character because of my German ancestry and I just really like him so I’m glad the fandom is better now.
The countyhumans fandom is worce
Used to be into Hetalia and my family is Italian. My ex tho.... she never used my name only names from fandoms. She tried to call me a name from Hetalia but was upset that she couldnt be Italy (I didnt even want a nickname) so she pressured me into going by Germany.... After cheating once WITH MULTIPLE PEOPLE she tried to convince me to forgive her with a "love note" from "italy to germany". Safe to say I've cut all contact.
been in the hetalia fandom for nearly a decade,,,,, from cringy tween to cringy adult, i’ve seen many horrors, and it’s great to see it all encapsulated in one video lmao. most of the biggest issues have shifted to other fandoms, but i*cest ships are still pretty common, at least within the eastern side of things (aka i don’t see much on western social media, maybe the occasional fix on ao3, but the moment i check pixiv or search up new doujins, boom! i*cest!) ^_^’’
Remember when the fandom kidnapped a kid to make it cosplay sealand..?
ive never heard of this???? when did this happen????
10 year old me finding out about this anime was just…
(I’m 11 now so… still kinda bad)
As a newcomer to the hetalia fandom, i want to get out when i can, help me they're dragging me into the fandom please
You shall never leave
@@Eldritch-thing NOOONOO NOOOO
@@drawingdoritu >:)
ive known hetalia for around 7 years now. i can confirm that once you get into hetalia, its stuck with you forever. even if you manage to escape the fandom, you cant escape hetalia. till this day i still sometimes imagine the characters instead of the actual countries.
A bit of naughty ASMR doesn't seem so bad now.
This was probably in part due to the terrible dub, where it made a bad joke about the holocaust that was never in the original. I think the dub brought a lot of idiot fans that were in it for the awful attempt at humour (that changed canon dialogue) and these people didn’t care at all about learning the actual history.
Its so super weird that germany cosplayers were doing nazi stuff when germany himself is never seen as a nazi. I mean there is a slight glimse at Germanys boss being hitler but nazism itself is never reflected in Germany as a character.
I thought this was going to take a different route, im so glad I never heard of it
Seventh grade me has entered chat. I hate ittttt
Hey it was seventh grade, thats arguably better than high school!
@@TheKillerDoll I wasn’t nearly as bad in high school. Now I’m in college and hopefully done with that phase!
Oh God. Wasn't that the one that had a bunch of People being and loving Nazis? You brought a bunch of lost Memmorys back that I never wanted🥲
I dont know if “loving” is necessary the right word for it BUT they sure as shit were dressing up as them and making fanart of Germany and Prussia as Nazis seemingly often🙃
If you would watch kolkos introduction to the fandom video you would learn that this video is actually a LOT better then it was back in 2009-2014 mainly because most of the bad people grew up and got out of the fandom and if there is a newbie doing something bad it’s usually the veterans of the fandom that stop the behavior so yeah it is actually kinda tame compared to other anime fandoms
when I was in middle schooler I thought it was all fine cosplaying Nazis and especially how my friend supported them. I didnt Cosplay or knew Nazis or supported them, I just enjoy the series and ship incest without learning that it's not okay. I felt cringe and ashame at my younger self even after learning ww2 / how gross incest is. I wish I learnt better
I used to ship Us + Can / Us + Uk 😬 yeah that's cringe middle school me 😅
THANK GOD I JOINED ONLY 2 YEARS AGO 😭😭
Unfortunately, my most intense and long drawn out fffffANDOM, was hetalia with an ex-friend. Thank, GOD, we didn’t go on forums or something and end up being indoctrinated by neo-nazis.
No, just my ex friend shipping countries like dolls in a doll house, and me writing self- 🤢 self-inserts with them like it was A THING to do.
And listen self-inserts are nice and great and I think you should be able to enjoy yourself but the problem HERE is that it was a personification of a country that-
Well we don’t need to get into it. Don’t worry about it. Everyone shut up forever.
I love the dub of hetalia. At the end of the day its a comedy anime. Its meant to be satire and all comedy shouldn’t be taken seriously. Its just a joke. I find it funny but i dont agree with what they say or do in real life. Its just dark humour and if you dont like it dont watch it lol. But I agree that the fandom is toxic. Its mostly the fandom and not the anime itself. Im 27 so i know whats a joke and what’s inappropriate in rl. Take fawlty towers for example it made some Questionable jokes about N**** and Germany but its still one of the funniest moments in comedy to this day. If people cant tell the difference between a joke and whats rl then its on them.
Yeah, I never really got how people were so offended by hetalia. It's just supposed to be a comedy, nothing really serious.
Like, I'm American, and I think it's really funny how he's portrayed as an arrogant idiot who eats too much 😭 cause I know at the end of the day it's not 100% true and I'm able to laugh at the absurdity of it. Satire is satire, y'know?
@@communistbagel I live in the uk and the guys roasting Britain for how terrible the food is is so accurate and hilarious haha
im so glad its much better now
Hetalians whit life in 2024?
I knew some people online who were more libertine about the nazi and other darker elements. I would see but honestly I didn’t care either way. I wouldn’t be in that photo but that’s part of history. And it was somewhat of a fetish
I have been a fan of Hetalia for 5 years, I love the stories, BUT I HATE OC SHIPPING IN HETALIA.
Things that I hate/dislike in the Hetalia fandom:
1. one person who created the ship Germany x Oc (the federal state of Germany but I won't say which one because I don't want that person to find this comment, but the name of the country starts with the letter "B" and ends with the letter "A"). This person has denied many times that this OC is not related to Germany because it used to be a Slavic state and hides behind the fact that they are studying history (I asked my History teacher whether this federal state of Germany is related to Germany and the History teacher said - "yes"). Most often, OCs are created because a person makes a self-insert in order to ship himself (i.e. self-insert OC) with a given country.
2. I hate how the fandom is not interested in history and only argues about some idiotic ships.
3. I know one fan of a certain country and I used to be hyperfixated on it I managed to taste the culture of this country, I started collecting information about this country, learning the history of this country and I even tried to learn the language of this country, I collected most information about this country (in terms of Himaruya's blogs), I tried to learn new songs from this country (I love Greek songs and especially the 80s❤). This person was not interested in anything and was only interested in the character, did not deepen any knowledge about this character, did not even want to know the lore of this character in terms of Hetalia (which is strange if you are hyperfixated on a given character) and was delighted with its appearance and created a healthy relationship with this character.
4. Referring only to the historical evidence presented by Hima (which is often wrong)
I still love Hetalia but the fandom is ehh.... So now I'm focusing more on Harry Potter, like, that series calms me down...
I’ve never clicked a notification so fast
I have nothing to say.....
Maybe they are displaying budist peace symbols, doing Roman salutes, and wearing Charlie Chapman mustaches.
I’m sorry, I know a lot of those cosplayers shouldn’t have done what the did, but the way fact that you went out of your way to show the faces of people purposefully blocked out for their safety rather disgusts me. A lot of this stuff is old, and I’m sure many of this people have grown up and realized how offensive they were. They have their faces blocked to protect them from being harassed and doxxed.
You’re tone doesn’t help it either. Again, I’m sorry, but it genuinely made me uncomfortable with the way you showed these pictures from over 10 years ago with your sassy remarks and mannerisms.
dude theyre nazis cmon now
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Hate Hetalia I don't like hetalia