In Germany, it is allowed to criticize politicians and other public figures harshly as long as the statements are based on factual information and not mere insults. Freedom of speech protects the right to express opinions, but it does not extend to making defamatory or untrue statements about private individuals. Criticism is permissible, but personal insults are not, as they would violate the rights and dignity of others.
"freedom of art" in germany is real. You can do a lot of things on stage that you couldn't do anywhere else. A lot of people have sued artists for defamation but lost in court because of this.
@@JanaTürlich-t5y einiges oder auch machen, u.U. musst du eventuell sicherstellen dass nur volljährige die show sehen dürfen. Denk mal an Sexshows, bestimmte Konzerte von Künstlern/Bands ... muss ja auch nicht immer politisch alles sein. Kunst Freiheit ist nochmal was anderes als das Recht der freien Meinungsäußerung.
It is a misconception to talk about freedom of speech and germany. We do not have freedom of speech, we have freedom of expression. In some way the laws here are more restrictive than in the us where speech is concerned. In other ways they are much more lenient. To employ the hypothetical of an american in the audience being offended by this program. There is no such thing as a right to not be offended, as long as the things Pispers says are factual there is no legal remedy to stop him saying them. But he can't call said hypothetical offended american a whiny little bitch, because that would be considered harmful to the persons dignity. The first paragraph of our constitution states: "(1) Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority." Truth can not harm ones dignity, but lies and insults can. But then again, the US doesn't really have total freedom of speech either.
What he meant is that no one said, "We are Africans," when one million Hutus were killed, but when it came to the three thousand Americans, people said, "We are all Americans now." He also doesn't believe that this will ever happen.
Freedom of speech is tricky. You have to distinguish between proven facts and crude insults. For example: it is proven that the Nazis murdered millions of Jews. No one who is not completely stupid can deny that. But if you say that I am a Nazi just because I am a German, then I can take that as an insult. I wouldn't report you for that because then I would just laugh at your stupidity if you were serious. It would not touch me. But it would be an insult. More has to happen for a report to be filed. Example: bullying on the Internet can destroy someone psychologically or expose them to serious danger. This is criminal and it is illegal. You can't call it illegal what Volker does here just because he gives irrefutable facts in front of an audience. If you are offended by facts, you have a personal problem, but cannot blame anyone for speaking them out. Volker is not insulting anyone personally.
Since when is insulting on the internet a crime? As if a law change anything, it'll only apply more pressure. If someone does a video where he only insults me he can go ahead, I don't mind because I am aware that he is only talking about himself. 🙏🏻
And its not just freedom of speech. Its also Freedom of Art, his performance is his art, and as a comedian/ satirist, it would be even more harder to convict him in court
We don’t care if people get offended, that is our charming, bloody, brutal directness. Some may care for a crying person but only in the human sense. It is pretty hard to sue somebody for rudeness in Germany, we are fucking famous for it.😂
In the german constitution the first line in the first artikel says: "Human dignity is inviolable. It is the duty of all state authorities to respect and protect it". That means you can say what you want without insulting another one personally. At least that was the case before C happens.......
In Germany there is absolute freedom of expression; everything and everyone can be criticized. However, insults and threats are not protected by freedom of expression and can be punished. Art, like this political cabaret, is particularly protected by artistic freedom and can sometimes use a somewhat coarser choice of words. However, their statement must be correct, and defamation through lies is not covered by artistic freedom.
i disagree, there is no absolute freedom of speech/expression in germany, because of the hate speech law. today, volker couldn`t do this skid anymore, because he dared to say neger/negro. the hate speech law is very vage, and who decides what is hate speech and what is not? i agree with them that you shouldn`t use racist slurs, but it is a very tricky situation, to make this a law, because nobody knows what is offensive to someone else, and what is not. we have pretty much the same situation regarding all the different pronounce, and that you have to use the right one for this person,.
@@generalsaufenberg4931 I don't know if "Neger" is considered an insult since it just means "black" in a Latin language. It is of course very, very frowned upon and should no longer be mentioned because it offends this population group. Nevertheless, the word would absolutely be permitted in art if it serves the purpose of performance. You wrote freedom of speech/expression? We have absolute freedom of expression! ...freedom of speech can be enjoyed by those who like to insult, threaten and lie.
You are right, even extreme right wingers can insult stupid decisions and people they do not like as a "satirical skit". But those events often break other laws even when the specific "comedian" can refrain from outright agitating. Because some of the audience will bring banned paraphelia or even make selfies doing banned Hitler salutes or drunken hate speech.... but politicos like the AFD who play at being respectable are more worrying in my opinion. Their veneer is ultra thin.@@Holilo7
@@Holilo7 Volker Pispers used the n-word in this specific context because he wanted to show that Africans are still treated as people less worthy than the "great" zivilisation. Always stinging his audience to wake them up and they have to think more deeply. Otherwise he had never used it. If he is aware of something, than the meaning of words. Of course I couldn’t ask Volker, but I’m quite sure about that.
@@andreadee1567 the N-word ????????????? wtf?? we are really doomed; PC is eating brains. Negerkuss und Mohrenkopf hab ich als Kind gegessen. Nigger Jim steht in meiner geerbten "Huck Finn" Ausgabe. And I'm not a racist.
In principle, the most important thing has already been said completely correctly in the comments. I could understand that people would be pissed if he only "pointed the finger" at other countries and left out his own country! In this case, even if they were right, I wouldn't really take them seriously. But with Volker Pispers you don't have to worry at all that he doesn't sweep in front of his "own front door" (and not too little!)
I've seen him live and he's really into the subject. He made fun of a German party and its actions. One person was not happy and reacted loudly, but Volker Pispers provided many additional facts on the topic and proved the person in the audience wrong. If you are offended, it is because of your country's attitude or what your politicians are doing and not because he told you so out loud.
5:12 Nope, because he could leave the show anytime he wants. This is political cabaret , it is a reckognised form of art in germany. It is protected by our freedom of expression. Freedom of speech has some small limits, like insults can be fined/punished. Any nazi shit or holocaust denial is illegal. If you want to insult someone thoughly in germany , do it in art form. A poem, a song or even a statue will be protected by freedom of expression, which is nearly limitless. If you want to know the limit , just google Erdogan / poem / Böhmermann
In the next video, try to pronounce Volker Pispers the V like an F and the i like an i in kiss. Then you are right. Yes, you can. Good reaction, i like your style.
Freedom of speech is a high value in Germany. There is one reason for that: The first people, who got hit hard by the beginning of the Nazi regime before World War II, were people of free speech. All people had to be brought back to the same line and no divergent opinions to the regime were allowed. And therefore there is something deep into the German mindset: 'Resist the beginnings...' and 'Never again'. So there are 2 lessons: * rabble-rousing and hate speech about WWII, which denying the facts of the past, are not allowed in Germany. As an example, you are not allowed to say 'the genocide of Jews didn't happen in Germany/WWII'. * Free speech is a high value and therefore there is some competition, 'how hard can you criticize the government' by doing comedy/satire. And somehow, the genre 'political cabaret' (which Volker Pispers is doing here) came from there.
12:11 that would be not against the law. Mainly because he is protected by law in his doing because what he’s doing is art. But even if he would not be a Kabarettist (that’s what his job is called) but just a random person, he could say all this stuff without being punished by law. I know that the us and Germany have a little different understanding about freedom of speech but freedom of speech is by far not as restricted as you might have heard. Sure on one hand I would agree that it’s not truly freedom of speech unless you can say even the nasty stuff wich is forbidden to say in my country… but on the other hand it’s nothing that I’m missing out Maybe you should react to some freedom of speech in Germany Typ of video
Volker has the right to say it and the ppl have the right to be offended. Being offended is their problem and shows foolishness, as all anger is foolish
In addition to other replies I've read, there's "freedom of art" in Germany (a direct response to the actions of the Nazis). This means that even with more vicious, insulting attacks, artists have a lot of leeway and are virtually untouchable. I think Americans often overestimate the actual real life limitations through our version of freedom of speech (freedom of expression). But just so you know, some of the drag bans etc. that are happening in the US would be unconstitutional here. So they are different concepts that cover slightly different things, but we both have areas that are not covered. It's not really a more free/less free thing.
5:21 regarding your question if a group of americans in the audiëntie would be offended. If what he said would be illegal? As long as it's the truth they just have to take it. Folker uses facts only, so nothing to do against it 😂😂😂
You asked that question about an offended American ... no, nothing would be illegal! Freedom of speech does very much exist in Germany. The one and only exception is showing actual Nazi symbols (except for educational purposes) and denying the Holocaust. Everything else is an opinion that you can utter in Germany. Of course, anti-defamation laws do exist! Of course there are language political correct language rules for publications of the government. There are also anti discrimination laws for employers. But opinions are opinions and they are free! Even the exceptions mentioned above concern ONLY public utterances (speeches, leaflets, public appearances, media). NOTHING you say in private context is illegal.
In would be regarded as a form of art, and in Germany the freedom of art (incuding satie) is guaranteed by law. And by the way in Germany people of public interest like politicians have to give up some of their rights about of protection against personal insults or violation of privacy. If you go public you have to be ready to swallow more than the simple man. ;)
Germany doesn't have freedom of speech, we have freedom of expression. There are things that are illegal to be said, for exmaple to deny the holocaust. That can get you into jail. But this, satire or cabaret and other art, is covered under freedom of expression and that is very well protected, so to answer your question: It's irrelevant if anyone feels offended by it. Feeling offended is their own prerogative and legally irrelevant.
Germany has laws regarding "hate speech" but the standard does not involve simply a person saying they feel offended by something. It's based of a standard what "hate speech" generally means. It includes for instance racial discrimination or denying the holoc**st etc. (sorry for that bs censoring but I don't want youtube to lock any comment sections again because bad word)
If somebody tells made up lies about you, (for example that you frequently have seggs with animals,) you could sue them for defamation and maybe insulting you. However if you frame it differently like "In my opinion this guy looks like someone who has seggs with animal", that is your personal opinion and nobody can sue you for thinking that. Also, telling the truth is always allowed
Pispers is doing satire. When those videos were made the world was still a different place. In Germany Freedom of speech is pretty limited, its nowhere close to what is allowed in the USA. For example there is a list of words you are not allowed to say to the police or government official and those words are even graded in severity and have an assigned punishment from fines up to prison when it comes to certain articles of the constitution. Satire in Germany has more leeway when it comes to insults even though its been somewhat reduced in recent years, but in general as an artform it has special protections to allow citicism of government.
I agree with the others. I cant control how someone feels about what i say even if its controversal so i dont really give a shit if someone feels offended enough to cry. Not my problem.
Biggest "defender of democracy", the USA is looking to downgrade to a one party nation from a 2 parties one. Revamping the whole system seems to be not possible without interference by unreasonably powerful obstructionists of all kinds and from all sides with a stake in the current style of governance. Looks worrying to me but reasonable "little" people have not a lot of say in all of this. @@sarahmichael270244
Yes it would be, but not instant not instant. it would be from behind. Step by step backwards, excapt we would have an massiv community. Then it woulb be hard and instant. Everything is changing now.
If Americans in the audience would feel offended (and they probably would, since most of what he says isn't known to Americans), they're free to leave, because he states at the start of his show that his jokes are factual. Also note that he's not _insulting_ anyone; he's _ridiculing_ them through satire. If you feel insulted through ridicule, then that's your own problem. But to be brutally honest, here in the Europe we have plenty of satire and we do a lot of self-deprecating. Volker Pispers is German and look how he ridicules Germany. Many countries have similar 'comedians'. So if you go to such a show, you'll know in advance that they're going to ridicule people, including your own. Our audience _knows_ they'll be ridiculed, often even individually. For instance: Comedian: "Sir, you're bald. Is that inconvenient for you?" Audience member: "No, I'm okay." Comedian: "Well, I'm not. The overhead light reflects on your head and I can't see anything anymore." It's comedy through ridicule, not through insult. I think the only people who would get 'offended' would be Americans. And probably try to sue them comedians. Is it because they're of a different culture? Perhaps. It can also be because they're patriots that are proud of their country. If you're proud of something, you generally feel offended when someone criticizes it. That's just human nature. In Europe we're not 'proud' of our nation, but appreciative or not appreciative. Because we all know our countries are flawed in at least some regard. *Ukraine* When you touch upon Ukraine in that regard and the Cold War, you can draw the conclusion that Europe _and_ the US don't want to infuriate Russia to the point where Russia will lash out and strike back. So they're doing the proxy war, by providing Ukraine the means to fight back instead. They're not directly at war with Russia, so it's safe to play it this way. But at the same time they all agree that if Russia _fully captures_ Ukraine, what's to say he won't continue to invade Poland, Finland or other neighboring countries? That's why all of those neighboring countries are now scrambling to become part of NATO, so that if Russia invades them, the entire NATO is obliged to start a war with Russia. It's entirely possible this war will become known as WWIII, with Russia as its antagonist. So you may not like how the US supports Ukraine, but the US _really_ doesn't want Russia to expand its borders or see Russia wage war against Europe. If Russia wins, you have to trade with Russia instead of European countries. That's not something to look forward to. If Europe wins, it's still going to be wrecked economically, which means it will export a lot less to the US. That's not a positive outcome either. The US imports a _lot_ from Europe after all. And not to mention that Russia still has atomic bombs. If they exchange those blows, there'll be no export at all. That's going to hurt a _lot_ of world economies, like the US, China and Japan, which will probably result in severe depressions for all of them. So in the end it's most likely in the US best interests to oppose Russia indirectly. Whether that's the right move or not, I don't know. I'm not a politician, I'm just analyzing the situation.
Actualy the things he says are right so if you want to go to a court they wound give him right not the person who gets offented. Hat is a thing the german suprime court said you have the right to say that what you want but you dont have the right to make your owen facts. But you allso dont have the right that every one have to agree with you.
Germany is funny. Any country you visit: everything is permitted unless it's expressedly forbidden by law. Germany: everything is forbidden unless it's expressedly permitted by law.😂😂😂 Granted, it's not that extreme. Whereas it is correct that we don't have absolute freedom of speech (there are a couple of things absolutely forbidden to say in public) we do have the right to freely express our opinion. If you call a cop a corrupt asshole you go down for insulting an official. If you say "I think you're a corrupt asshole" or "in my opinion you're a corrupt asshole" there's nothing they can do. Not that I would recommend say either, only an example. Now, Volker Pispers makes it rather easy, at least in German, to tell the difference in when he's giving you historic fact and when he's giving his opinion. As for possibly someone getting offended within the audience, not problem. Firstly, people very rarely call out from the audience. Usually only if invited to do so by the artist. And if someone did, "Hey, I'm giving my opinion, if my OPINION offends you that's your problem." So when it comes to freedom of speech vs freedom of expression, it's almost the same thing. You can say basically anything you want in Germany. And if someone called you out being offended because you stated a historically verifiable fact they would be laughed at by everyone. We find it kind of hard to take people seriously who get offended by history.
In Germany, it is allowed to criticize politicians and other public figures harshly as long as the statements are based on factual information and not mere insults. Freedom of speech protects the right to express opinions, but it does not extend to making defamatory or untrue statements about private individuals. Criticism is permissible, but personal insults are not, as they would violate the rights and dignity of others.
"freedom of art" in germany is real. You can do a lot of things on stage that you couldn't do anywhere else.
A lot of people have sued artists for defamation but lost in court because of this.
@@liquidmindswelche Dinge darf man auf der Bühne sagen, aber nicht auf der Bahnhoftreppe, oder vor dem Rathaus, oder in einem youtubevideo?
@@JanaTürlich-t5y einiges oder auch machen, u.U. musst du eventuell sicherstellen dass nur volljährige die show sehen dürfen. Denk mal an Sexshows, bestimmte Konzerte von Künstlern/Bands ... muss ja auch nicht immer politisch alles sein. Kunst Freiheit ist nochmal was anderes als das Recht der freien Meinungsäußerung.
Some very simple rules in Europe.Your freedom of speech and expression ends where the dignity of another person starts!
Thank you for the video
Thank you
Thats BS and you know it. In Germany it ends criticizing Israels Apartheid politics. Ukrainian Bandera cult and so on
@@achimelale9974lol
It is a misconception to talk about freedom of speech and germany. We do not have freedom of speech, we have freedom of expression. In some way the laws here are more restrictive than in the us where speech is concerned. In other ways they are much more lenient.
To employ the hypothetical of an american in the audience being offended by this program. There is no such thing as a right to not be offended, as long as the things Pispers says are factual there is no legal remedy to stop him saying them. But he can't call said hypothetical offended american a whiny little bitch, because that would be considered harmful to the persons dignity.
The first paragraph of our constitution states: "(1) Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority."
Truth can not harm ones dignity, but lies and insults can.
But then again, the US doesn't really have total freedom of speech either.
What he meant is that no one said, "We are Africans," when one million Hutus were killed, but when it came to the three thousand Americans, people said, "We are all Americans now." He also doesn't believe that this will ever happen.
Freedom of speech is tricky. You have to distinguish between proven facts and crude insults. For example: it is proven that the Nazis murdered millions of Jews. No one who is not completely stupid can deny that. But if you say that I am a Nazi just because I am a German, then I can take that as an insult. I wouldn't report you for that because then I would just laugh at your stupidity if you were serious. It would not touch me. But it would be an insult. More has to happen for a report to be filed. Example: bullying on the Internet can destroy someone psychologically or expose them to serious danger. This is criminal and it is illegal. You can't call it illegal what Volker does here just because he gives irrefutable facts in front of an audience. If you are offended by facts, you have a personal problem, but cannot blame anyone for speaking them out. Volker is not insulting anyone personally.
Since when is insulting on the internet a crime? As if a law change anything, it'll only apply more pressure. If someone does a video where he only insults me he can go ahead, I don't mind because I am aware that he is only talking about himself. 🙏🏻
And its not just freedom of speech. Its also Freedom of Art, his performance is his art, and as a comedian/ satirist, it would be even more harder to convict him in court
We don’t care if people get offended, that is our charming, bloody, brutal directness.
Some may care for a crying person but only in the human sense.
It is pretty hard to sue somebody for rudeness in Germany, we are fucking famous for it.😂
In the german constitution the first line in the first artikel says: "Human dignity is inviolable. It is the duty of all state authorities to respect and protect it". That means you can say what you want without insulting another one personally. At least that was the case before C happens.......
And almost all Germans know these first two sentences by heart and can recite them.
What exactly are you put in prison for saying nowadays?
In Germany there is absolute freedom of expression; everything and everyone can be criticized. However, insults and threats are not protected by freedom of expression and can be punished.
Art, like this political cabaret, is particularly protected by artistic freedom and can sometimes use a somewhat coarser choice of words.
However, their statement must be correct, and defamation through lies is not covered by artistic freedom.
i disagree, there is no absolute freedom of speech/expression in germany, because of the hate speech law.
today, volker couldn`t do this skid anymore, because he dared to say neger/negro.
the hate speech law is very vage, and who decides what is hate speech and what is not?
i agree with them that you shouldn`t use racist slurs, but it is a very tricky situation, to make this a law, because nobody knows what is offensive to someone else, and what is not.
we have pretty much the same situation regarding all the different pronounce, and that you have to use the right one for this person,.
@@generalsaufenberg4931
I don't know if "Neger" is considered an insult since it just means "black" in a Latin language. It is of course very, very frowned upon and should no longer be mentioned because it offends this population group.
Nevertheless, the word would absolutely be permitted in art if it serves the purpose of performance.
You wrote freedom of speech/expression?
We have absolute freedom of expression!
...freedom of speech can be enjoyed by those who like to insult, threaten and lie.
You are right, even extreme right wingers can insult stupid decisions and people they do not like as a "satirical skit". But those events often break other laws even when the specific "comedian" can refrain from outright agitating. Because some of the audience will bring banned paraphelia or even make selfies doing banned Hitler salutes or drunken hate speech.... but politicos like the AFD who play at being respectable are more worrying in my opinion. Their veneer is ultra thin.@@Holilo7
@@Holilo7 Volker Pispers used the n-word in this specific context because he wanted to show that Africans are still treated as people less worthy than the "great" zivilisation. Always stinging his audience to wake them up and they have to think more deeply. Otherwise he had never used it. If he is aware of something, than the meaning of words. Of course I couldn’t ask Volker, but I’m quite sure about that.
@@andreadee1567 the N-word ????????????? wtf?? we are really doomed;
PC is eating brains. Negerkuss und Mohrenkopf hab ich als Kind gegessen. Nigger Jim steht in meiner geerbten "Huck Finn" Ausgabe. And I'm not a racist.
In Germany, in contrast to the USA, no one can ban you or sue you if you tell the truth!!
#Assange, Snowden.........
Volker Pispers is a genius! the video is from 2004 and it is still so real. greetings from Germany
In principle, the most important thing has already been said completely correctly in the comments. I could understand that people would be pissed if he only "pointed the finger" at other countries and left out his own country! In this case, even if they were right, I wouldn't really take them seriously. But with Volker Pispers you don't have to worry at all that he doesn't sweep in front of his "own front door" (and not too little!)
It's freedom of art.
I've seen him live and he's really into the subject. He made fun of a German party and its actions. One person was not happy and reacted loudly, but Volker Pispers provided many additional facts on the topic and proved the person in the audience wrong. If you are offended, it is because of your country's attitude or what your politicians are doing and not because he told you so out loud.
5:12 Nope, because he could leave the show anytime he wants.
This is political cabaret , it is a reckognised form of art in germany. It is protected by our freedom of expression.
Freedom of speech has some small limits, like insults can be fined/punished. Any nazi shit or holocaust denial is illegal.
If you want to insult someone thoughly in germany , do it in art form. A poem, a song or even a statue will be protected by freedom of expression, which is nearly limitless.
If you want to know the limit , just google Erdogan / poem / Böhmermann
In the next video, try to pronounce Volker Pispers the V like an F and the i like an i in kiss. Then you are right. Yes, you can. Good reaction, i like your style.
Noted! Thanks !
Freedom of speech is a high value in Germany.
There is one reason for that: The first people, who got hit hard by the beginning of the Nazi regime before World War II, were people of free speech. All people had to be brought back to the same line and no divergent opinions to the regime were allowed.
And therefore there is something deep into the German mindset: 'Resist the beginnings...' and 'Never again'.
So there are 2 lessons:
* rabble-rousing and hate speech about WWII, which denying the facts of the past, are not allowed in Germany. As an example, you are not allowed to say 'the genocide of Jews didn't happen in Germany/WWII'.
* Free speech is a high value and therefore there is some competition, 'how hard can you criticize the government' by doing comedy/satire. And somehow, the genre 'political cabaret' (which Volker Pispers is doing here) came from there.
12:11 that would be not against the law. Mainly because he is protected by law in his doing because what he’s doing is art. But even if he would not be a Kabarettist (that’s what his job is called) but just a random person, he could say all this stuff without being punished by law. I know that the us and Germany have a little different understanding about freedom of speech but freedom of speech is by far not as restricted as you might have heard. Sure on one hand I would agree that it’s not truly freedom of speech unless you can say even the nasty stuff wich is forbidden to say in my country… but on the other hand it’s nothing that I’m missing out
Maybe you should react to some freedom of speech in Germany Typ of video
Volker has the right to say it and the ppl have the right to be offended.
Being offended is their problem and shows foolishness, as all anger is foolish
I agree! Greetings!
In addition to other replies I've read, there's "freedom of art" in Germany (a direct response to the actions of the Nazis). This means that even with more vicious, insulting attacks, artists have a lot of leeway and are virtually untouchable. I think Americans often overestimate the actual real life limitations through our version of freedom of speech (freedom of expression). But just so you know, some of the drag bans etc. that are happening in the US would be unconstitutional here. So they are different concepts that cover slightly different things, but we both have areas that are not covered. It's not really a more free/less free thing.
5:21 regarding your question if a group of americans in the audiëntie would be offended. If what he said would be illegal?
As long as it's the truth they just have to take it. Folker uses facts only, so nothing to do against it 😂😂😂
05:10 If they were offended? Just don’t watch the show😂
It’s not illegal to tell facts.
You asked that question about an offended American ... no, nothing would be illegal! Freedom of speech does very much exist in Germany. The one and only exception is showing actual Nazi symbols (except for educational purposes) and denying the Holocaust. Everything else is an opinion that you can utter in Germany. Of course, anti-defamation laws do exist!
Of course there are language political correct language rules for publications of the government. There are also anti discrimination laws for employers. But opinions are opinions and they are free! Even the exceptions mentioned above concern ONLY public utterances (speeches, leaflets, public appearances, media). NOTHING you say in private context is illegal.
In would be regarded as a form of art, and in Germany the freedom of art (incuding satie) is guaranteed by law. And by the way in Germany people of public interest like politicians have to give up some of their rights about of protection against personal insults or violation of privacy. If you go public you have to be ready to swallow more than the simple man. ;)
Germany doesn't have freedom of speech, we have freedom of expression. There are things that are illegal to be said, for exmaple to deny the holocaust. That can get you into jail.
But this, satire or cabaret and other art, is covered under freedom of expression and that is very well protected, so to answer your question: It's irrelevant if anyone feels offended by it. Feeling offended is their own prerogative and legally irrelevant.
If someone gets very offended in the audience the answer would be "nobody forces you to be here. So stop being an American and grow a pair, or leave."
Germany has laws regarding "hate speech" but the standard does not involve simply a person saying they feel offended by something. It's based of a standard what "hate speech" generally means. It includes for instance racial discrimination or denying the holoc**st etc.
(sorry for that bs censoring but I don't want youtube to lock any comment sections again because bad word)
If somebody tells made up lies about you, (for example that you frequently have seggs with animals,) you could sue them for defamation and maybe insulting you.
However if you frame it differently like "In my opinion this guy looks like someone who has seggs with animal", that is your personal opinion and nobody can sue you for thinking that.
Also, telling the truth is always allowed
Pispers is doing satire. When those videos were made the world was still a different place. In Germany Freedom of speech is pretty limited, its nowhere close to what is allowed in the USA. For example there is a list of words you are not allowed to say to the police or government official and those words are even graded in severity and have an assigned punishment from fines up to prison when it comes to certain articles of the constitution.
Satire in Germany has more leeway when it comes to insults even though its been somewhat reduced in recent years, but in general as an artform it has special protections to allow citicism of government.
I agree with the others. I cant control how someone feels about what i say even if its controversal so i dont really give a shit if someone feels offended enough to cry. Not my problem.
As Ricky Gervais says: 'being offered doesn't make you right'
that what should be normal in democracies.
Biggest "defender of democracy", the USA is looking to downgrade to a one party nation from a 2 parties one. Revamping the whole system seems to be not possible without interference by unreasonably powerful obstructionists of all kinds and from all sides with a stake in the current style of governance. Looks worrying to me but reasonable "little" people have not a lot of say in all of this. @@sarahmichael270244
I agree. Thanks for your comment
Yes it would be, but not instant not instant. it would be from behind. Step by step backwards, excapt we would have an massiv community. Then it woulb be hard and instant. Everything is changing now.
why not?i think you dont understand the vid.
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If Americans in the audience would feel offended (and they probably would, since most of what he says isn't known to Americans), they're free to leave, because he states at the start of his show that his jokes are factual. Also note that he's not _insulting_ anyone; he's _ridiculing_ them through satire. If you feel insulted through ridicule, then that's your own problem.
But to be brutally honest, here in the Europe we have plenty of satire and we do a lot of self-deprecating. Volker Pispers is German and look how he ridicules Germany. Many countries have similar 'comedians'. So if you go to such a show, you'll know in advance that they're going to ridicule people, including your own. Our audience _knows_ they'll be ridiculed, often even individually. For instance:
Comedian: "Sir, you're bald. Is that inconvenient for you?"
Audience member: "No, I'm okay."
Comedian: "Well, I'm not. The overhead light reflects on your head and I can't see anything anymore."
It's comedy through ridicule, not through insult.
I think the only people who would get 'offended' would be Americans. And probably try to sue them comedians. Is it because they're of a different culture? Perhaps. It can also be because they're patriots that are proud of their country. If you're proud of something, you generally feel offended when someone criticizes it. That's just human nature. In Europe we're not 'proud' of our nation, but appreciative or not appreciative. Because we all know our countries are flawed in at least some regard.
*Ukraine*
When you touch upon Ukraine in that regard and the Cold War, you can draw the conclusion that Europe _and_ the US don't want to infuriate Russia to the point where Russia will lash out and strike back. So they're doing the proxy war, by providing Ukraine the means to fight back instead. They're not directly at war with Russia, so it's safe to play it this way. But at the same time they all agree that if Russia _fully captures_ Ukraine, what's to say he won't continue to invade Poland, Finland or other neighboring countries? That's why all of those neighboring countries are now scrambling to become part of NATO, so that if Russia invades them, the entire NATO is obliged to start a war with Russia. It's entirely possible this war will become known as WWIII, with Russia as its antagonist.
So you may not like how the US supports Ukraine, but the US _really_ doesn't want Russia to expand its borders or see Russia wage war against Europe. If Russia wins, you have to trade with Russia instead of European countries. That's not something to look forward to. If Europe wins, it's still going to be wrecked economically, which means it will export a lot less to the US. That's not a positive outcome either. The US imports a _lot_ from Europe after all. And not to mention that Russia still has atomic bombs. If they exchange those blows, there'll be no export at all. That's going to hurt a _lot_ of world economies, like the US, China and Japan, which will probably result in severe depressions for all of them.
So in the end it's most likely in the US best interests to oppose Russia indirectly. Whether that's the right move or not, I don't know. I'm not a politician, I'm just analyzing the situation.
It's pronounced
"Folker"
Actualy the things he says are right so if you want to go to a court they wound give him right not the person who gets offented. Hat is a thing the german suprime court said you have the right to say that what you want but you dont have the right to make your owen facts. But you allso dont have the right that every one have to agree with you.
that is very confusing if you ask me.
Germany is funny.
Any country you visit: everything is permitted unless it's expressedly forbidden by law.
Germany: everything is forbidden unless it's expressedly permitted by law.😂😂😂
Granted, it's not that extreme.
Whereas it is correct that we don't have absolute freedom of speech (there are a couple of things absolutely forbidden to say in public) we do have the right to freely express our opinion. If you call a cop a corrupt asshole you go down for insulting an official. If you say "I think you're a corrupt asshole" or "in my opinion you're a corrupt asshole" there's nothing they can do. Not that I would recommend say either, only an example.
Now, Volker Pispers makes it rather easy, at least in German, to tell the difference in when he's giving you historic fact and when he's giving his opinion.
As for possibly someone getting offended within the audience, not problem. Firstly, people very rarely call out from the audience. Usually only if invited to do so by the artist. And if someone did, "Hey, I'm giving my opinion, if my OPINION offends you that's your problem."
So when it comes to freedom of speech vs freedom of expression, it's almost the same thing. You can say basically anything you want in Germany. And if someone called you out being offended because you stated a historically verifiable fact they would be laughed at by everyone. We find it kind of hard to take people seriously who get offended by history.
thank you for clarifying the confusion 💪🔥