All the field demonstrations in this video were filmed on the Tom Stucke grain farm in southern Mercer County Ohio, which is about 1 mile south of our farm. About six miles south of New Idea factory in Coldwater Ohio. His son Todd was fairly high up the ladder at Agco. It was neat to see video of our neighborhood thirty years ago. Thanks for putting this up on your channel.
You always have to wonder where the farms were where these kinds of videos were filmed at; and what eventually became of the farms and operators since then. Not very often you get to find out.
That explains why there are so many silos in the background. I swear Mercer county has to have one of the highest silo per square mile rates in the country.
I still think Oliver should've never sold out. I think they would still be around if they weren't bought out. Aside from the hiccup they had with the 1855.
Interesting to see the transitions in engineering in tractors. My concern with AGCO is their practice of brand elimination. Wonder what parts availability will be on "legacy" brands in their lineup. As you had stated in an earlier video, White Motor chipped the life away from OLIVER an engineering mistake at a time trying to save their heavy truck business. In our area of Ohio, there were a lot of die hard Oliver/White owners that have moved on to other brands after White was discontinued.
DD series 40: More commonly known an an International/ Navistar DT 466/ DT 530. It's pretty amazing that when you include the White 6100s being built at the same time, you could get the same tractor with your choice of 3 different engines. Deutz, Cummins or Detroit (Navistar International)!
Massey-Ferguson 9240 was also built with that same platform. It had a 505ci CDC Cummins (I was sure it had a Perkins or SISU). Also sold as Same 265 / Lamborghini Traction 240-265 / Hürlimann H-265. Fun fact I read: ;- In 1993, the Same group brought Agco's 244-horsepower to Europe as the large tractor Lamborghini Traction 240. Similarly, Lamborghinis was marketed in the USA under the White brand. The following year, the power was increased and the tractor was offered with brands Same 265, Lamborghini Traction 265 and Hürlimann H-265. In addition to these, a tractor was sold in Europe under the name MF 9240. The engine was a Cummins 8.3-liter. Same Group's tractors had 263 hp instead of MF's 255. Funk full powershift had 18+9 gears and 36+18 equipped with crawler gears. The hydraulics were load-sensitive and yielded 87 liters, while the MF reported a reading of 110 liters. On the other hand, the lifting power was 10,000 kg MF instead of 6900. According to Sam, the weight of the tractor was 9000 kg when MF announced almost 10,000 kg. -; Cummins engine + Funk gearbox is also the base of Genesis Ford (Versatile) tractors. [The specs on these says Ford-New-Holland engines, but the casting says Cummins (lol)]
@@Ghis1964s The range also included the Deutz-Fahr 8.31. This was before Deutz sold their agricultural devision to Same Lamborghini Hürlimann (SLH). Only 50 of this version was build. ruclips.net/video/2hae9BMilGA/видео.html
Agco really lucked out when they took on the white tractors to get the tractor design . It just shows how everyone was caught off guard when Case IH brought the magnums out with the simple mechanical powershift . Everyone else had to use higher numbers to grab some attention over the 7200 series . 2 different engine options had to make service and parts a bit of pain in the butt . I always wonder what the Favorite Engine choice was for these since I'm and International guy so i don't understand the whole love affair with Deutz
I can answer the nice bits about air-cooled Deutz engines. No wet sleeve cavitation, no leaking water pump, no corrosion from old coolant, can have a bad head gasket and still use the machine"I bought a D80 06 with all six cylinders leaking it ran poorly but I could use it if i had to", and from me at least i have an easier time cleaning the cooling fins than cleaning a badly clogged radiator.
Nice video. I have a 9435 which was the series before but almost the same tractor just different powershift transmission. I questioned myself after I bought it but I planted with it this spring and fell in love with it.
Thank God AGCO changed tractor brand names like most people change underwear. Heaven forbid they would build and brand loyalty. Yuk! The last brand is from Europe with terrible colors that no US farmer has ever heard of. Marketing genius!!!!! 😀😀
This was cool to watch, I remember these new on the lot at the local agco dealer when I was in elementary school. Love this series, appreciate you sharing the video
It's so sad when tractor , car or trucks are destroyed by greedy business owners who have not a care for all the hard working people who build different products that make every other company's making better farm equipment , tractors , trucks and cars . When ideas are gathered from farmers , mechanical breakdown , dealer's , mechanics , forward thinking engineer and the people who assemble tractors , everybody wins .
Loves these old videos, the narration and music and sound effects are something else…those really were some nice looking tractors, although I would’ve preferred a silver to orange paint job…thank you for showing these Ethan, can’t say it enough, you are an old soul and are one hell of a young man…🇺🇸💪🏻🇺🇸
@@Oliver66FarmBoy yeah but I have two tractors when I bought them "Case1030 and a Versatile D145". They were getting hot ,their radiator's were clogged,and previous owners tired to remedy this by pulling out the thermostat. Also bought a CaseIH 5140 that the coolant had a bunch of dirt in it for some reason.
@@josephmccoy6685 I misread Oliver66FarmBoy's comment. What was i trying to say is that the water-cooled engines are not any better than air-cooled engines for reliability just different maintenance routines. Not cleaning the cooling fins is no better than a plugged radiator. Cleaning is usually easy compressed air or a pressure washer and back in business just as quick as a radiator cleaning.
I still think Oliver should've never sold out. I think they would still be around if they weren't bought out. Aside from the hiccup they had with the 1855.
All the field demonstrations in this video were filmed on the Tom Stucke grain farm in southern Mercer County Ohio, which is about 1 mile south of our farm. About six miles south of New Idea factory in Coldwater Ohio. His son Todd was fairly high up the ladder at Agco. It was neat to see video of our neighborhood thirty years ago. Thanks for putting this up on your channel.
You always have to wonder where the farms were where these kinds of videos were filmed at; and what eventually became of the farms and operators since then. Not very often you get to find out.
That explains why there are so many silos in the background. I swear Mercer county has to have one of the highest silo per square mile rates in the country.
I still think Oliver should've never sold out. I think they would still be around if they weren't bought out. Aside from the hiccup they had with the 1855.
Nice. These old marketing films are so cool. I did not know they had DD series 40 and Deutz air cooled at the same time.
Interesting to see the transitions in engineering in tractors. My concern with AGCO is their practice of brand elimination. Wonder what parts availability will be on "legacy" brands in their lineup. As you had stated in an earlier video, White Motor chipped the life away from OLIVER an engineering mistake at a time trying to save their heavy truck business. In our area of Ohio, there were a lot of die hard Oliver/White owners that have moved on to other brands after White was discontinued.
If they are still making parts for Oliver’s and whites I don’t think these will be a problem any time soon.
The 9690 and 9670 with the Deutz Air-cooled diesels are fantastic machines.
I wish Agco would have kept these, and just absorbed Fendt, or renamed it Oliver. Now it's Fendt or Massey.
Calling a Fendt an Oliver wouldn’t have gone over well.
Love them Allis tractors
DD series 40: More commonly known an an International/ Navistar DT 466/ DT 530. It's pretty amazing that when you include the White 6100s being built at the same time, you could get the same tractor with your choice of 3 different engines. Deutz, Cummins or Detroit (Navistar International)!
Massey-Ferguson 9240 was also built with that same platform. It had a 505ci CDC Cummins (I was sure it had a Perkins or SISU).
Also sold as Same 265 / Lamborghini Traction 240-265 / Hürlimann H-265.
Fun fact I read:
;- In 1993, the Same group brought Agco's 244-horsepower to Europe as the large tractor Lamborghini Traction 240. Similarly, Lamborghinis was marketed in the USA under the White brand.
The following year, the power was increased and the tractor was offered with brands Same 265, Lamborghini Traction 265 and Hürlimann H-265. In addition to these, a tractor was sold in Europe under the name MF 9240. The engine was a Cummins 8.3-liter.
Same Group's tractors had 263 hp instead of MF's 255. Funk full powershift had 18+9 gears and 36+18 equipped with crawler gears. The hydraulics were load-sensitive and yielded 87 liters, while the MF reported a reading of 110 liters. On the other hand, the lifting power was 10,000 kg MF instead of 6900. According to Sam, the weight of the tractor was 9000 kg when MF announced almost 10,000 kg. -;
Cummins engine + Funk gearbox is also the base of Genesis Ford (Versatile) tractors. [The specs on these says Ford-New-Holland engines, but the casting says Cummins (lol)]
@@Ghis1964s The range also included the Deutz-Fahr 8.31. This was before Deutz sold their agricultural devision to Same Lamborghini Hürlimann (SLH). Only 50 of this version was build. ruclips.net/video/2hae9BMilGA/видео.html
There's a guy by me that's the 3 of the biggest 9800 series to pull tandem wagon sets.
They are cool tractors.
@@Oliver66FarmBoy they seem like nice tractors, Got a funk powershift like a Genesis Ford and a Deere 8000 which Funk is a great powershift.
They look a lot like Same Titan series.
Agco really lucked out when they took on the white tractors to get the tractor design . It just shows how everyone was caught off guard when Case IH brought the magnums out with the simple mechanical powershift . Everyone else had to use higher numbers to grab some attention over the 7200 series . 2 different engine options had to make service and parts a bit of pain in the butt . I always wonder what the Favorite Engine choice was for these since I'm and International guy so i don't understand the whole love affair with Deutz
You see more orange ones with the Deutz than Detroit’s.
I can answer the nice bits about air-cooled Deutz engines. No wet sleeve cavitation, no leaking water pump, no corrosion from old coolant, can have a bad head gasket and still use the machine"I bought a D80 06 with all six cylinders leaking it ran poorly but I could use it if i had to", and from me at least i have an easier time cleaning the cooling fins than cleaning a badly clogged radiator.
The Deutz powered 9690's are a beast.
They all are.
Awesome! Thanks again for putting the time in to share these!
Nice video. I have a 9435 which was the series before but almost the same tractor just different powershift transmission. I questioned myself after I bought it but I planted with it this spring and fell in love with it.
That is cool buddy be safe out there your buddy from Nebraska
Thanks
Thank God AGCO changed tractor brand names like most people change underwear. Heaven forbid they would build and brand loyalty. Yuk! The last brand is from Europe with terrible colors that no US farmer has ever heard of. Marketing genius!!!!! 😀😀
So youve never heard of Massey Ferguson?
Ethan watching this makes me want to go out and buy one of these tractors. Thanks Michael
Just makes me want to go back to the 90s.
The 90s were a lot more fun
Thanks for sharing Ethan.
This was cool to watch, I remember these new on the lot at the local agco dealer when I was in elementary school. Love this series, appreciate you sharing the video
Thanks
Pretty cool video it sure cool to survive most videos like that are throwed away in the garbage
I look for them but they don’t come up often.
Thanks for this so cool
Oh the memories .
Yep
Would any of you guys have been happier with the liquid cooled 1013 Duetz engine that is in my Agrotron 120 instead of the 913 and 513 air-cooled.
I could sit and watch these videos all day. Would have been cool to see it at an actual dealer open house
Same
It's so sad when tractor , car or trucks are destroyed by greedy business owners who have not a care for all the hard working people who build different products that make every other company's making better farm equipment , tractors , trucks and cars .
When ideas are gathered from farmers , mechanical breakdown , dealer's , mechanics , forward thinking engineer and the people who assemble tractors , everybody wins .
What was the hiccup with the 1855?
The put a turbocharger on the 310 Wauskasha without a engine oil cooler
Loves these old videos, the narration and music and sound effects are something else…those really were some nice looking tractors, although I would’ve preferred a silver to orange paint job…thank you for showing these Ethan, can’t say it enough, you are an old soul and are one hell of a young man…🇺🇸💪🏻🇺🇸
Smart Farmers added the 5 to their Model Tractors, that is IF they actually wanted to be able to use them...🤣
Not true.
I have to give credit where it is due. Deutz engines are pretty much bullet proof as long as they are kept clean so this isn’t really true.
@@Oliver66FarmBoy yeah but I have two tractors when I bought them "Case1030 and a Versatile D145". They were getting hot ,their radiator's were clogged,and previous owners tired to remedy this by pulling out the thermostat. Also bought a CaseIH 5140 that the coolant had a bunch of dirt in it for some reason.
@@rustyshank912 couldn't you just flush out the coolant and keep the radiator clean?
@@josephmccoy6685 I misread Oliver66FarmBoy's comment. What was i trying to say is that the water-cooled engines are not any better than air-cooled engines for reliability just different maintenance routines. Not cleaning the cooling fins is no better than a plugged radiator. Cleaning is usually easy compressed air or a pressure washer and back in business just as quick as a radiator cleaning.
Is this when they started using funk transmissions?
Be nice if you had to three of those sitting in the equipment shed
I still think Oliver should've never sold out. I think they would still be around if they weren't bought out. Aside from the hiccup they had with the 1855.
Agreed
Thanks Ethan