0:11 This shot right here forever stuck with me as a kid and is one of the reasons I find the ocean so terrifying. It just emerges from the gloom so suddenly...
It doesn't help the fact that back then the size estimates for the Liopleurodon were wrong, and it was depicted at the astounding length of 25 meters. Almost the size of a Blue Whale, imagine a mouth full of teeth that size emerging from the ocean while diving. Nightmarish.
Putting the 25-meter length aside... this is probably one of the best creatures in the series in terms of accuracy, not to mention that beautiful coloration.
well to be fair it was bullshit lmao. paleontologists found a single massive vertebra and assigned it to a new species of Liopleurodon, when it turned out to come from a sauropod. they scaled the vertebra to find that this Liopleurodon would be about 20 meters, and WWD added on another 5 because they figure there would be individual variation. in reality, that massive Liopleurodon never existed. actual Liopleurodon species would get to around 10m. so more orca, less blue whale.
@@chrisuuu393 very good thing indeed. but i'm actually working on a fanfiction where humans resurrected a Liopluredon to make it grow exactly to it's originally thought up size.
@@chrisuuu393 how can it be incorrect if they found the fossils? Did they first though the fossils that were found belong to a juvenile and now it turned out it was an adult?
Actually, we are pretty sure. The largest known pliosaurs (based on nearly complete skeletons) are 10 meters long. To even entertain the idea that there were species 20-25 meters in length is ludicrous and spits in the face of the scientific method. Even for 1999 this was a very dubious size estimate based on very fragmentary material (the worst possible material to extrapolate size estimates from).
Your average Liopleurodon would probably be maybe slightly larger or as large as an adult male saltwater crocodile. It still would have been a deadly creature, you're not likely to survive a bite from those jaws.
@@daliborjovanovic510 That's not dubious at all lmao. There's already evidence of Pliosaur species reaching up to 15 meters long, and considering the size of modern aquatic Mammals, they're very unlikely to be the limit.
I am about to bash this kaiju Liopleurodon but i decided to watch the entirety of Cruel Seas And oh my goodness even though it is monster-sized it sure acted like a real animal. Yes the first scene is realistic and it looks tame if we compared it with orcas that literally beach theirselves just to grab a sea lion. The real Liopleurodon, the 25 feet long one, could ambush some dinosaurs on shores if occasion comes like how was it's shown here. The portrayal of Liopleurodon behavior here is making me forget the size inacuraccies. It didn't act like a monster despite looking as one. They even made a tragic death with it being caught by storm waves, then beached and suffocated from it's weight, like some big whales also end up today. There are no exaggerated behaviors no silly anthropomorphism or evil guy trope, it's not the Liopleurodon that made cruel seas, *THE SEA ITSELF IS CRUEL*
The fist few seconds of this program are stunning , surely the most terrible of all dinosaurs and you wouldn't see it till it was too late !! what an amazing creature , so sad to see him dead on the beach .😍😍🙏🙏
Avery Brooks: (from the U.S. Discovery Channel dub) 0:28 "Liopleurodon, the largest marine reptile that ever lived. This one's a male, about the size of a whale. He's sixty feet long and weighs over a hundred tons. On the hunt, Liopleurodon has a built -in direction finder. Two seperate chambers in his snout work together like a pair of ears, pinpoint the exact location of an odor. When he smells something, he follows his nose. Liopleurodon's colossial head and powerful jaws are one-fourth the length of his body. Propelled by four huge oar-like paddles, he glides effortlessly through the water. 0:11 (this scene is re-edited after its introduction) "When the world's largest carnivore is on the loose, death can't be far away."
Professor David Martill, the main advisor for the series. His evidence for this was little more than a single pliosaur vertebra that he thought came from an 18-20 meter animal (it more likely came from a 10-12 meter one) and based on that, he speculated that they could get even bigger. If this sounds like a dodgy theory, it's because it is XD Even Martill later admitted that they weren't "terribly scientific" when they came up with this.
Wonder if the "25 meters" was a typo & they actually meant 25 feet? It's currently agreed upon that Liopleurodon could reach average lengths of 5-7 meters; with certain individuals reaching rare lengths of 8-10 meters. 25 feet is equal to 7.62 meters; which is a little over average length estimates. So if they changed the unit of measurement from meters to feet, then it might still be accurate by today's standars?
@@wackojacko0295 I'm well aware of that. I was just expressing the possibility that the filmmakers could've made a typo & that if they changed the unit of measurement, then it would've still been accurate by today's standards.
@@dont-hurt-me2519 I wasn’t a mistake like that. What happened was Liopleurodon in this is based size wise of the Monster of Aramberri and several other giant pliosaurid fossils found that time like the Norway one too. They believed back then they were Liopleurodon however most of these have been classified as Pliosaurus (“Predator X”) but some still unidentified. It is possible the Monster of Aramberri and others are still actually Liopleurodon! We just don’t know yet.. they could be another or multiple other species of Liopleurodon as wel already know of two species of it.
Obviously not. Given that BBC put millions of dollars into this documentary, there is no way such an idiotic mistake could be made. It’s all explained in the 2000 tie-in book Walking with Dinosaurs: The Evidence, as the producers based the large size on very fragmentary fossils, some vertebrae and skull fragments, from the Oxford Clay Formation (where “Cruel Sea” is set), which some paleontologists back then interpreted as stemming from pliosaurs up to 17-20 meters in length (more likely 9-11 meters by modern standards and one giant vertebra might stem from a cetiosaur instead) and then went, “Well, statistically, these are unlikely to be the largest specimens of their species?”, which is alluded to in the episode, with this 25-meter giant being acknowledged as an unusually large specimen. Needless to say, their reasoning for endorsing the idea of whale-sized pliosaurs was very weak and based on laughably lackluster evidence by today’s standards, and they then tried to be speculative based on this flawed idea, but taking radical theories seriously based on the most minimal of evidence was still the norm back in the 1990s.
Unlikely. The biggest known pliosaurs are all around 33 feet long. With this as the jumping-off point, the odds of finding any new, larger species even remotely close to the titan shown in WWD is pretty ridiculous and unlikely, akin to finding a 40-foot dromaeosaur.
@@daliborjovanovic510 I know tho, but it would be hilarious to find the fossils of a bigger specimen. Just like the Perecetus Colossus. Which if confirmed, then it would be bigger than the blue whale.
While WWD Liopleurodon is my favorite Liopleurodon, JWE2 Liopleurodon is my favorite Liopleurodon design, since the crocodilian snout may have inspired it to inaccurately have some crocodilian proportions, due to how Pliosaurs have crocodilian-like snouts.
Maybe they where pumping up the numbers. With regard to it's Weight &'Length. But Liopleurodon was always my favourite In Walking With Dinosaurs. I always felt he stole the show. In this
Those datas they had back then were oversized, nowadays we know that creature was way smaller and lighter. Back then it was measured by a skull, thinking that would be about 1/7 of the entire animals size. Nowadays the biggest known Liopleurodon was less than 6 meters in length with a total weight of about 1.7 metric tons. Not even close to being the biggest carnivore of history.
@@-alwaysinvolved-3490 Max estimates for the largest species put it at 16.5 meters. Any higher estimates were based on erroneous assumptions about its anatomy but now that we have described the more complete "Ariston" specimen in 2007, we know better.
Jurassic World Evolution 2 - Liopleurodon Gameplay (PS5 UHD) [4K60FPS] / Throneful ruclips.net/video/9-fbB-FHpMA/видео.html Liopleurodon vs Ophthalmosaurus - Лиоплевродон против Офтальмозавра [RUS] / Kot Perdun ruclips.net/video/0dOdXSsJtwU/видео.html The Land Before Time IX Journey To Big Water: Liopleurodon Screentime / Ian Fairley ruclips.net/video/5G6Z_XP1sHg/видео.html
Unrelated to the gratuitous oversizing but current thinking is that plesiosaurs were actually k-type breeders, meaning mothers would give birth to one well-developed offspring and look after it, much like modern cetaceans. Imagine a giant pliosaur also being a caring mother.
@@simbiotesnus1013 nah, otodus is just the species wich are similar or maybe even overlapping with the mackerel sharks, charcharodon acts like a first name, meaning tooth. So both names can be rightfully used. Search that up if you want
@@-alwaysinvolved-3490 But Megalodon was reclassified and included in the genus Otodontidae, so calling it "Carcharodon Megalodon" is at least incorrect.
@@simbiotesnus1013 youre makin it sound like we found evidence that concludes to be hard proof of the meg belonging to the otodontidae, when in reality all we ever found is some jaw fragments and some teeth. And the material and the shape seem to be similar to those of the great white, but might as well be closer related to the otodontidae then to the carcharias. Both are subcategories to the lamniformes (mackerel sharks), but because the otodontidae are entirely extinkt we have no real proof of the meg being closer related to them. So its neither wrong to say otodon-tidae or carcharondon-tidae cuz we are all making assumptions...
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As oversized as this liopluredon is... it's still more memorable than mosasaurus in my opinion.
I kinda agree with yah
It’s memorable in how inaccurate it is
Indeed, in a trilogy of seven years, the Mosa doesnt even have five minutes on screen
The math is being redone, Due to finding a skeleton about 58ft long
something hurts inside when i see little kids idolizing jws mosasaur
0:55 has anybody noticed how good the transition from practical to CGI is!?
I know right? It’s actually PHONOMENAL
@@allenrichiez930 Agreed.
Wait it changed?
@@christhe2dprotogen511 It must have been when the flipper moved down and it began to go further away.
Shot in blue screen
0:11 This shot right here forever stuck with me as a kid and is one of the reasons I find the ocean so terrifying. It just emerges from the gloom so suddenly...
If youve ever went scuba diving with sharks before, its the exact same thing.
It doesn't help the fact that back then the size estimates for the Liopleurodon were wrong, and it was depicted at the astounding length of 25 meters. Almost the size of a Blue Whale, imagine a mouth full of teeth that size emerging from the ocean while diving. Nightmarish.
Something so massive emerging out of nothing
Putting the 25-meter length aside... this is probably one of the best creatures in the series in terms of accuracy, not to mention that beautiful coloration.
25 meters long? 165 tons? I can't even imagine how terrifying that would be.
well to be fair it was bullshit lmao. paleontologists found a single massive vertebra and assigned it to a new species of Liopleurodon, when it turned out to come from a sauropod. they scaled the vertebra to find that this Liopleurodon would be about 20 meters, and WWD added on another 5 because they figure there would be individual variation.
in reality, that massive Liopleurodon never existed. actual Liopleurodon species would get to around 10m. so more orca, less blue whale.
Good thing those are incorrect informations.
@@chrisuuu393 very good thing indeed. but i'm actually working on a fanfiction where humans resurrected a Liopluredon to make it grow exactly to it's originally thought up size.
@@chrisuuu393 No thats terrible!!!
Dont u have any idea how cool the concept of a 25 m long super predator is??? 🥲
@@chrisuuu393 how can it be incorrect if they found the fossils? Did they first though the fossils that were found belong to a juvenile and now it turned out it was an adult?
The last scenes are so nostalgic
Even if the lower size estimates are more accurate (and we can't be absolutely sure, either way) it must still have been a formidable hunter.
Actually, we are pretty sure. The largest known pliosaurs (based on nearly complete skeletons) are 10 meters long. To even entertain the idea that there were species 20-25 meters in length is ludicrous and spits in the face of the scientific method. Even for 1999 this was a very dubious size estimate based on very fragmentary material (the worst possible material to extrapolate size estimates from).
Your average Liopleurodon would probably be maybe slightly larger or as large as an adult male saltwater crocodile. It still would have been a deadly creature, you're not likely to survive a bite from those jaws.
@@daliborjovanovic510 That's not dubious at all lmao. There's already evidence of Pliosaur species reaching up to 15 meters long, and considering the size of modern aquatic Mammals, they're very unlikely to be the limit.
@@Lotan_”Um actually, the fossil has been estimated at 13 meters and not 15”🤓
Who knows cause a trex femur bone was found it was 600 mm in diamiter so like a crocdile they keep growing till death
my favourite animal since watching this show as a kid
I am about to bash this kaiju Liopleurodon but i decided to watch the entirety of Cruel Seas
And oh my goodness even though it is monster-sized it sure acted like a real animal. Yes the first scene is realistic and it looks tame if we compared it with orcas that literally beach theirselves just to grab a sea lion. The real Liopleurodon, the 25 feet long one, could ambush some dinosaurs on shores if occasion comes like how was it's shown here.
The portrayal of Liopleurodon behavior here is making me forget the size inacuraccies. It didn't act like a monster despite looking as one. They even made a tragic death with it being caught by storm waves, then beached and suffocated from it's weight, like some big whales also end up today.
There are no exaggerated behaviors no silly anthropomorphism or evil guy trope, it's not the Liopleurodon that made cruel seas, *THE SEA ITSELF IS CRUEL*
Life was cruel back then and still is today
Nah, 2 yrs ago they realize the creature isn't 25ft long theyre redoing its size yet again
@@kryptekfunnies7473 Bruh i admit paleontology is making me nuts
3:49 RIP Liopleurodon
The fist few seconds of this program are stunning , surely the most terrible of all dinosaurs and you wouldn't see it till it was too late !! what an amazing creature , so sad to see him dead on the beach .😍😍🙏🙏
It's not a dinosaur 🤓😸
4:48 the Liopleurodon shown their true Size
2:16 scene still stuck in my mind after 25year
It’s a magical Liopleurodon!
What magic?
@@Mac14329 It’s a joke.
A reference from Charlie the Unicorn.
@@RoughMoon24 What was the joke?
The beginning scene (0:01) reminds me of the Indominus Rex death scene from Jurassic World.
You mean like mosasaur being oversized as well?😂
I still remember how revolutionairy this series was back then!
Walking with Series [1999 - 2003] - Liopleurodon Screen Time
What Kinds Of Animal Sounds Did They Used To Make For Liopleurodon?!
Avery Brooks:
(from the U.S. Discovery Channel dub)
0:28
"Liopleurodon, the largest marine
reptile that ever lived. This one's
a male, about the size of a whale.
He's sixty feet long and weighs over a hundred tons.
On the hunt, Liopleurodon has a built
-in direction finder. Two seperate
chambers in his snout work together
like a pair of ears, pinpoint the exact
location of an odor. When he
smells something, he follows his nose.
Liopleurodon's colossial head and
powerful jaws are one-fourth
the length of his body. Propelled by
four huge oar-like paddles, he
glides effortlessly through the water.
0:11 (this scene is re-edited after its introduction)
"When the world's largest carnivore is on the loose, death can't be far away."
Damn, forgot the scene where a Liopleurodon can be seen diving into the depths as an Opthalmosaurus gives birth
Who in the WWD crew thought a 25 meter long, 150 ton Liopleurodon was a good idea.
Professor David Martill, the main advisor for the series. His evidence for this was little more than a single pliosaur vertebra that he thought came from an 18-20 meter animal (it more likely came from a 10-12 meter one) and based on that, he speculated that they could get even bigger. If this sounds like a dodgy theory, it's because it is XD Even Martill later admitted that they weren't "terribly scientific" when they came up with this.
@@daliborjovanovic510nice insight
Wonder if the "25 meters" was a typo & they actually meant 25 feet?
It's currently agreed upon that Liopleurodon could reach average lengths of 5-7 meters; with certain individuals reaching rare lengths of 8-10 meters. 25 feet is equal to 7.62 meters; which is a little over average length estimates. So if they changed the unit of measurement from meters to feet, then it might still be accurate by today's standars?
Walking with dinosaurs was made back in 1999 so palaeontologists didn't know that yet.
@@wackojacko0295 I'm well aware of that. I was just expressing the possibility that the filmmakers could've made a typo & that if they changed the unit of measurement, then it would've still been accurate by today's standards.
@@dont-hurt-me2519 Still wouldn't explain away their claim of its weight being 150 tons.
@@dont-hurt-me2519 I wasn’t a mistake like that.
What happened was Liopleurodon in this is based size wise of the Monster of Aramberri and several other giant pliosaurid fossils found that time like the Norway one too. They believed back then they were Liopleurodon however most of these have been classified as Pliosaurus (“Predator X”) but some still unidentified. It is possible the Monster of Aramberri and others are still actually Liopleurodon! We just don’t know yet.. they could be another or multiple other species of Liopleurodon as wel already know of two species of it.
Obviously not. Given that BBC put millions of dollars into this documentary, there is no way such an idiotic mistake could be made.
It’s all explained in the 2000 tie-in book Walking with Dinosaurs: The Evidence, as the producers based the large size on very fragmentary fossils, some vertebrae and skull fragments, from the Oxford Clay Formation (where “Cruel Sea” is set), which some paleontologists back then interpreted as stemming from pliosaurs up to 17-20 meters in length (more likely 9-11 meters by modern standards and one giant vertebra might stem from a cetiosaur instead) and then went, “Well, statistically, these are unlikely to be the largest specimens of their species?”, which is alluded to in the episode, with this 25-meter giant being acknowledged as an unusually large specimen. Needless to say, their reasoning for endorsing the idea of whale-sized pliosaurs was very weak and based on laughably lackluster evidence by today’s standards, and they then tried to be speculative based on this flawed idea, but taking radical theories seriously based on the most minimal of evidence was still the norm back in the 1990s.
Liopleurodon's first appearance in media.
The T-rex of the Jurassic seas before its larger cousin the Kronosaurus
You are kinda right.
Pliosaurus is the t Rex of the sea
Yeah the Kronosaurus makes a camo in the next episode.
No Predator X.
0:00: Imagine seeing that while chilling on the beach. 😳
Biggest failure of all time: *making Liopluredon 25 meters long*
Guess what trex fanboy rexy is a failure
Liopleurodon’s size is only 25 ft
@@Dreadwing20 I found out tonight they never got to be as large as this movie suggests 😔
Didn’t they say that this one was the biggest than normal tho
@@LuisGuzman-tn9hs even if it was 80 feet is way too large for an animal known to only reach 7.5 meters or 25 feet at maximum.
0:11-0:21 Is creepy.
That kill scene is unwatchable on my old VHS because I watch it so many times as a kid.
*Paleontologists in the future discovering bones of a bigger specimen of liopleurodon.*
Perhaps we treated WwithDinos to harshly.
Unlikely. The biggest known pliosaurs are all around 33 feet long. With this as the jumping-off point, the odds of finding any new, larger species even remotely close to the titan shown in WWD is pretty ridiculous and unlikely, akin to finding a 40-foot dromaeosaur.
@@daliborjovanovic510 I know tho, but it would be hilarious to find the fossils of a bigger specimen.
Just like the Perecetus Colossus. Which if confirmed, then it would be bigger than the blue whale.
While WWD Liopleurodon is my favorite Liopleurodon, JWE2 Liopleurodon is my favorite Liopleurodon design, since the crocodilian snout may have inspired it to inaccurately have some crocodilian proportions, due to how Pliosaurs have crocodilian-like snouts.
I didn't remember that Lieupleurodon needed air to live...
It's a marine reptile, not a fish. Lungs not gills
Don't worry about it. admittedly, I sometimes forget about that too
oh my goodness, it’s leo!!! 0:13
25 meters would make them almost as large as our biggest whales now. Too bad they made it up.
No Liopleurodon is the biggest acquatic reptile!
Isn't there one cryptoclydus scene where u can see it in the background?
I have never seen the footage of the later half of this video before. They are so fast and small
Its from the "mosters of the deepsea" or some like that, used to be my fav film when i was young but still worth the watch😊.
@@-alwaysinvolved-3490It's called "Sea Monsters".
lol imagine if the size was true, like this would have been the scariest thing to see in the waters.
Wow
Since they were really about the size of a modern orca, maybe they'd sort of beach themselves like orcas before going back into deeper water.
Maybe they where pumping up the numbers. With regard to it's Weight &'Length. But Liopleurodon was always my favourite In Walking With Dinosaurs. I always felt he stole the show. In this
Liopluerodon is very much underrated and terrible creatures it is 40 feet and 10 tons mass it one of my favourite extinct sea animals
It ain't 10 tons its 1-2 tons
@@ShockInVr don't reply
Nope, it was around 22 feet and 2-3 tons.
Those datas they had back then were oversized, nowadays we know that creature was way smaller and lighter. Back then it was measured by a skull, thinking that would be about 1/7 of the entire animals size. Nowadays the biggest known Liopleurodon was less than 6 meters in length with a total weight of about 1.7 metric tons. Not even close to being the biggest carnivore of history.
Cool Marine reptile
Bigger than blue whale?! More like Great white shark sized.
Only thing even close to blue whale was leedsychtis
@@-alwaysinvolved-3490 No, that fish is more so grey whale sized.
@@jeffreygao3956 i just read myself into this shit and apparently its not even sure wether he got up to 20 meters or was only about 9-10
@@jeffreygao3956 wich would not even be the size of a young meg.
@@-alwaysinvolved-3490 Max estimates for the largest species put it at 16.5 meters. Any higher estimates were based on erroneous assumptions about its anatomy but now that we have described the more complete "Ariston" specimen in 2007, we know better.
Predator X was the worst of them and the biggest.
Jurassic World Evolution 2 - Liopleurodon Gameplay (PS5 UHD) [4K60FPS] / Throneful
ruclips.net/video/9-fbB-FHpMA/видео.html
Liopleurodon vs Ophthalmosaurus - Лиоплевродон против Офтальмозавра [RUS] / Kot Perdun
ruclips.net/video/0dOdXSsJtwU/видео.html
The Land Before Time IX Journey To Big Water: Liopleurodon Screentime / Ian Fairley
ruclips.net/video/5G6Z_XP1sHg/видео.html
Unrelated to the gratuitous oversizing but current thinking is that plesiosaurs were actually k-type breeders, meaning mothers would give birth to one well-developed offspring and look after it, much like modern cetaceans. Imagine a giant pliosaur also being a caring mother.
It’s a Liopluredon, Charlie!
Liopleurodon is pronounced like that.
It will show us the way!
Liopleurodon is bigger than that and it wasn’t the biggest sea predator Liopleurodon was 3 tons
They were not even half that size
Is lioplurodon still alive?
Nope. I think they died before the end of the Jurassic.
Yes. I actually breed them. They make great pets. You *will* need a paddling pool. To keep them in though 😉😊
Yup. They just caught one off the coast of New Zealand two months ago.
🤡
Sure buddy, if my pet zhejianggopterus could talk he would surely "take you on a ride" to where the liopleurodon lives
Anyways, he is not capable of challenging charcharodon megalodon😂
*Otodus Megalodon
@@simbiotesnus1013 nah, otodus is just the species wich are similar or maybe even overlapping with the mackerel sharks, charcharodon acts like a first name, meaning tooth. So both names can be rightfully used. Search that up if you want
@@-alwaysinvolved-3490 But Megalodon was reclassified and included in the genus Otodontidae, so calling it "Carcharodon Megalodon" is at least incorrect.
@@simbiotesnus1013 youre makin it sound like we found evidence that concludes to be hard proof of the meg belonging to the otodontidae, when in reality all we ever found is some jaw fragments and some teeth. And the material and the shape seem to be similar to those of the great white, but might as well be closer related to the otodontidae then to the carcharias. Both are subcategories to the lamniformes (mackerel sharks), but because the otodontidae are entirely extinkt we have no real proof of the meg being closer related to them. So its neither wrong to say otodon-tidae or carcharondon-tidae cuz we are all making assumptions...
@@-alwaysinvolved-3490 You making it sound like I made this up, when actually it's what scientists say, who know it much better than you do.
and icthyotitan just outsized it. jesus christ
Outsizing a 6.5-meter pliosaur isn't a hard thing to do.