I was going to say the same thing, all of a sudden he text Joe about that, but it’s documented that Jay did that… Joe knew he wouldn’t have any push back and ask for proof…
let’s not make it seem like joe a nobody. his podcast connected with puff & just got outed by drake in front of millions of ppl. sht pump it up was originally jay beat he just turned it down.
Naw for Joe to lie on somebody like Jay it'll be like him begging for the gatekeepers to black ball his career If Jay don't respond and Joe keep pushing we know we what it is 🤷🏾
So you don’t think it’s weird that a man is obsessed with another man for years? If a female talked about a man for years, everyone would be jumping down her throat
That’s not real I’m not going to be responsible for if you not listening to me he told him to change up leave the streets alone we in a different tax bracket so now you took it upon yourself to do dirt and want me to be responsible for a grown ass man that don’t listen millionaires why ya in the hood
Real rap ..he knows majority of ppl will deep throat him regardless. But he'll always tell them what will make him look superior. No Matter what tho. Truth is Truth at the end of the day!!
That’s a fact …. Nigga ain’t never really had a real interview …. Only people like Angie Martinez gets to interview … and we know how those interviews be …
Exactly. Why waste ya time coming being in traffic on the turnpike 😂 and you’re going to say no in my behalf. I would be mad if I was Beans that my so-called friend had said that to the judge.
Jay had everything to loose dealing with that looser. Look at beans. Now look at jay👀you’re a fool if u don’t think jay made the right decision. I understand most people are. 🤣😏
@@chardin1900 u missed the point. But anyways, u would feel some type of way if your friend comes all the way down from NY or even from where you live and say I won’t be responsible for you so you would get released from jail. I would be mad and Im sure you would too. All that you should of just stayed home if your answer was no. Its not like Jay would of went to jail if Beans got in trouble again. If Im a friend Im going to be a friend not no phony probably like you. 😂
@@reyman7131 no I won’t. I wouldn’t call a friend to be responsible for me. Plus I’m a 80s baby and remember beans stayed on drugs and in trouble. I wouldn’t attach myself to anyone moving like that. U missed the point that jay wouldn’t be a billionaire if he thought like most of us🤷🏿♂️😳u ask auntie or your momma to be responsible!!
@@reyman7131 I don’t think he knew what was going to be asked. At least he did come is what y’all should be saying!!!!!! But for some strange reason when a black billionaire does something it better be perfect 🤷🏿♂️🤣😳it’s like people always have a complaint about jay. But nobody is even close to helping and doing as much as he has done to help people.
No he doesn’t need to explain himself! It has nothing to do with him! Talking about a man for years like a scorn woman. Beans himself said looking back Jay was right. Also, that he said good things about him but when that question came up, Jay said no! Dame was there why didn’t he stand up and say I will be responsible?
I remember same thing as oschino and thinking why come to court to answer no for being responsible for me and act like I’m wild n unpredictable at the same time crazy but the world missed all of that
You said the right thing brother I’m from the city and I been through some things also so I understand you 100% Uain’t said nothing wrong. It’s called a character witness
I gotta ask though O. After Jay didn't take responsibility for Beans, what happen with Beans shortly after? So, are you saying Jay was the cause of Bean's actions?
Go to the court house get the case number, then get the transcript of the actual hearing, The Jigga has ALWAYS BEEN in my Top 3 but call out the cap my brudda 🎯💪....
First of all Beanz said it at some point when he got out. But channel 6 news did a story the day he was in court and reported that Jay said that. And remember looking at my girl and saying what a little bitch, and I still stand by that today. Like Nas said, “fuck JayZ”.
The thing people dosent realize is the judge is not saying really be responsible for him like a baby it's just the judge was giving beans a way out just by asking Jay would you be responsible for him if we release him cause Jay spoke highly of beans at that time so it's not like if beans got in trouble again Jay was gonna go to prison😂 that was his way out period cause if Jay said yes the judge would have felt more comfortable because he's the executive of the lable so yall ningas and broads think like kids!!
Just because I come to support someone in court and speak on their behalf doesn't mean I'm prepared to be responsible for them. I've yet to hear anyone explain what being "responsible " for him entailed. It always sounded like some details were left out of this story I would like to hear Oschino explain that since he was there.
Yeah, I couldn’t imagine signing another nicca that u don’t know to a record deal, changing him and his families lives, provide numerous opportunities to him, the artist going back to his home town constantly getting in trouble, being reckless, and me as his boss saying “yeah, I’ll be responsible for him”. Some people just lack common sense!
That's all fine and dandy, you can definitely show up and show support. Jay had no business on the stand if he wasn't ready to answer tough questions. This comes from someone who has done fed time. Stay off the stand! He didn't have a subpoena to be up there so he had every right to refuse to testify. He was honorable in his support though.
Beans “The judge asked Jay if he’d be responsible for his whereabouts” The reality Jay Z would have to hire people to make he gets permission to leave the state, take a piss test etc etc light work BUT Jay Z was making Wall Street moves at the time so a potential headline of ‘Jay Z responsible for Beani Sigel stabbing…’ a risk Jay was never going to take. Fucked up but Jay warned him on Blueprint.
Jay would've never been held responsible tho, either way u put it its still corny. For allat he should've just stayed up NY tf he show up for thats not thurl.
This is old news. I remember Beans coming home and talking about it. He made a diss record going at Jay. I think it was the joint ft 50 cent. With that said, the one thing we don't know is the context. Maybe that's why Hov is saying it's cap, if what Joe said is true of course. Lol
He didn’t know that was an option and I feel him cause I have homies that’s unpredictable and don’t listen! They liable to be i. Some shhh anytime and I’m not risking everything I built on a loose cannon
Ppl forget that some of us are old enough to remember when that whole case when Beans got booked. It was on the news and all!! Every time he went to court. We was all watching as youngins smh Mfs think that Mandela Effect really work on everybody 😂🤦🏽♂️ We all ain’t heavily calcified smh
You tripping. It’s just like a mother who says leave my son in jail. Dudes gotta learn for themselves. Hov said ninjas want to sit on my lap. I don’t have a beer Santa Claus ain’t black. All his loyal, family, and friends is well taken care of. You can’t just give people money just cause they are homie. Our community got a lot to learn. Hov helped you make lots of money. It’s about loyalty. Loyalty and doing things to push our community forward is what’s going to get you blessings. He don’t owe anyone money just cause. I can’t argue that doing that hurts the family or our community. SMH
Well it was smart to think like quick .... It quickly separated him from a negative narrative....along the way there will be sacrifices in the pursuit for success and fame... Be it legal or illegal and like he said sorry not sorry I'm unapologetic... If you don't understand it then I understand that your in the business......just not a business man.... RUTHLESS.... How else do you get to the top unless your top is the ceiling....... You must of bumped your head and from the way it sounds you'll keep bumping it on that same ceiling. This is chess not checkers
Tha crazy thing is nobody going to give Joe any pushback, why would Jay text him and not call… Jay haven’t been communicating with Joe or any interviewers, I call 🧢
Alhumdullilah u shouldn’t understand that way of thinking Ahki bc project babies can’t leave one behind we just raised different that’s all u was saying
That’s mad weird for Joe to lie on jay z like that I doubt jay z texted Joe because we’ve heard beans himself say this same story and other celebrities said jay z said that in court
Beans said it himself on the subzero dvd when he first came home from the feds
This how u know who was outside who wasn’t bro 💯
I was just about to say, O ain't the 1st and only person to say that...
YEP AND THIS IS REALLY ALL THAT MATTERS. CANT BE CONTESTED. TOO MANY JAY-Z DlCK EATERS
i was trying to think cuz i think i heard beans say it first ...he deff did
Beans said it himself on drink champs also go look it up.
This what I was going to comment
We heard Beans explain this before so he definitely not lying.
What's else you heard beans say
I think Joe cappin Jay-Z ain’t text him 😂😂
😂💯
I was going to say the same thing, all of a sudden he text Joe about that, but it’s documented that Jay did that… Joe knew he wouldn’t have any push back and ask for proof…
Joe is a goofy dude he went rapping to doing podcast just to make a fool of himself on multiple times he a natural liar
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We remember that statement when it was said O...
I can't imagine Jay z texting Joe...
Lmao 🤣 joe is cappin
let’s not make it seem like joe a nobody. his podcast connected with puff & just got outed by drake in front of millions of ppl. sht pump it up was originally jay beat he just turned it down.
@FreshhCutz never said Joe was a nobody, but let's be real. Jay is on Billionaire status. Once you reach that level, you become unreachable.
@@p.capes1 even nore got a text he said jay be paying attention lol. you got it.
@@p.capes1 The Billionaire comment is False bro... they Regular people lol.
Naw for Joe to lie on somebody like Jay it'll be like him begging for the gatekeepers to black ball his career If Jay don't respond and Joe keep pushing we know we what it is 🤷🏾
Oschino is the realest.
So you don’t think it’s weird that a man is obsessed with another man for years? If a female talked about a man for years, everyone would be jumping down her throat
Harlem n.y..Oschino keeping it 💯...he not the type of dude to lie...he a real street nigga...we mess with Oschino in Harlem ny...That's a Fact.
That’s not real I’m not going to be responsible for if you not listening to me he told him to change up leave the streets alone we in a different tax bracket so now you took it upon yourself to do dirt and want me to be responsible for a grown ass man that don’t listen millionaires why ya in the hood
Of course Jay gone say it was cap He got away with sht so long he automatically gone think his word gone be taken
SHUT ⬆️
Aren’t you supposed to get away? 😮and if he that bad of a mf u might need to be quiet and step your game up
Real rap ..he knows majority of ppl will deep throat him regardless. But he'll always tell them what will make him look superior. No Matter what tho. Truth is Truth at the end of the day!!
@@RioNix540 make me
@@chardin1900 spoken like a true snake 🐍
DAME AND BEENIE SPOOK ON IT THIS IS FACT
Beans & O both mentioned this story years ago. Joe Budden starting to be a media 🤡
Salute from the Rotten Apple NYC
Salute, Sir. I read those articles back then.
Beans been said this. We know you’re telling the truth.
Yeah and Beans said that himself on the Jay Z diss record years ago called Average Cat
Cuzzo from what I know you've always been super solid. Pa stand up
Why the fuck they get O started knowing he don't let shit fly 😂😂😂
Beans said the exact thing you said on his Drink champs interview.
Hov told Joe its cap and gon leave it like that cause no interviewer is ever gon ask em that
That’s a fact …. Nigga ain’t never really had a real interview …. Only people like Angie Martinez gets to interview … and we know how those interviews be …
Beans said the shit his self on drink champs rewind the tape 📼
Beans said on a variety of shows over the few years.. ain't no cap 💯
Jay did say tht
When
Exactly. Why waste ya time coming being in traffic on the turnpike 😂 and you’re going to say no in my behalf. I would be mad if I was Beans that my so-called friend had said that to the judge.
Jay had everything to loose dealing with that looser. Look at beans. Now look at jay👀you’re a fool if u don’t think jay made the right decision. I understand most people are. 🤣😏
@@chardin1900 u missed the point. But anyways, u would feel some type of way if your friend comes all the way down from NY or even from where you live and say I won’t be responsible for you so you would get released from jail. I would be mad and Im sure you would too. All that you should of just stayed home if your answer was no. Its not like Jay would of went to jail if Beans got in trouble again. If Im a friend Im going to be a friend not no phony probably like you. 😂
@@reyman7131 no I won’t. I wouldn’t call a friend to be responsible for me. Plus I’m a 80s baby and remember beans stayed on drugs and in trouble. I wouldn’t attach myself to anyone moving like that. U missed the point that jay wouldn’t be a billionaire if he thought like most of us🤷🏿♂️😳u ask auntie or your momma to be responsible!!
@@chardin1900 like I said then why come?🤷🏽♂️
@@reyman7131 I don’t think he knew what was going to be asked. At least he did come is what y’all should be saying!!!!!! But for some strange reason when a black billionaire does something it better be perfect 🤷🏿♂️🤣😳it’s like people always have a complaint about jay. But nobody is even close to helping and doing as much as he has done to help people.
You don’t have to explain yourself because if they really want to know they can pull up the court transcripts.
No he doesn’t need to explain himself! It has nothing to do with him! Talking about a man for years like a scorn woman. Beans himself said looking back Jay was right. Also, that he said good things about him but when that question came up, Jay said no! Dame was there why didn’t he stand up and say I will be responsible?
@@SamsP.O.V-hd7rb Exactly
U absolutely right fam. 🤞🏾🤞🏾🤞🏾
I am in south africa and i clearly remember jay z refusing to be responsible for binnie sigel .
I can remember that from back then.
It’s ok to be wrong on the subject O, that doesn’t take anything away from you as a man. If anything, it’ll show the growth
RS and it ain’t like J didn’t know how much weight his words held
Jay not wasting his time texting Joe 😂
Yes beans said this years ago .. Hov ain’t never denied it back then
I was locked up with beans in fairton nj, during that time and that was the word on the whole compound
I remember same thing as oschino and thinking why come to court to answer no for being responsible for me and act like I’m wild n unpredictable at the same time crazy but the world missed all of that
Keep keeping it G✊🏻
That story is true as the day is long. ✌🏿
You said the right thing brother I’m from the city and I been through some things also so I understand you 100% Uain’t said nothing wrong. It’s called a character witness
Support and responsible are two different things. Do you know the context of "responsible" the judge was asking?
I seen Beans say that out of his own mouth… i think it was a Forbez dvd interview… i can’t find it now
Forbezdvd shut down but it was up for yrs
Jay lying like a mf i remember that situation when it happen it was big news back then well in the hip hop community anyway
Jay must forgot it's on record smh
True
I gotta ask though O. After Jay didn't take responsibility for Beans, what happen with Beans shortly after?
So, are you saying Jay was the cause of Bean's actions?
This happened for sure
Go to the court house get the case number, then get the transcript of the actual hearing, The Jigga has ALWAYS BEEN in my Top 3 but call out the cap my brudda 🎯💪....
First of all Beanz said it at some point when he got out. But channel 6 news did a story the day he was in court and reported that Jay said that. And remember looking at my girl and saying what a little bitch, and I still stand by that today. Like Nas said, “fuck JayZ”.
The thing people dosent realize is the judge is not saying really be responsible for him like a baby it's just the judge was giving beans a way out just by asking Jay would you be responsible for him if we release him cause Jay spoke highly of beans at that time so it's not like if beans got in trouble again Jay was gonna go to prison😂 that was his way out period cause if Jay said yes the judge would have felt more comfortable because he's the executive of the lable so yall ningas and broads think like kids!!
Groupie shit, at a ALL TIME HIGH.... Salute O...
And they had it in the newspaper two in new york city
Just because I come to support someone in court and speak on their behalf doesn't mean I'm prepared to be responsible for them. I've yet to hear anyone explain what being "responsible " for him entailed. It always sounded like some details were left out of this story I would like to hear Oschino explain that since he was there.
Beanz was his hitter for one and it would of been different energy it was Klien or Emory
Yeah, I couldn’t imagine signing another nicca that u don’t know to a record deal, changing him and his families lives, provide numerous opportunities to him, the artist going back to his home town constantly getting in trouble, being reckless, and me as his boss saying “yeah, I’ll be responsible for him”. Some people just lack common sense!
That's all fine and dandy, you can definitely show up and show support. Jay had no business on the stand if he wasn't ready to answer tough questions. This comes from someone who has done fed time. Stay off the stand! He didn't have a subpoena to be up there so he had every right to refuse to testify. He was honorable in his support though.
He could’ve been coming as a character witness. SALUTE tho 🫡
Jay don’t own Beans anything but a business deal and he had that
Beans “The judge asked Jay if he’d be responsible for his whereabouts”
The reality Jay Z would have to hire people to make he gets permission to leave the state, take a piss test etc etc light work BUT Jay Z was making Wall Street moves at the time so a potential headline of ‘Jay Z responsible for Beani Sigel stabbing…’ a risk Jay was never going to take. Fucked up but Jay warned him on Blueprint.
Jay would've never been held responsible tho, either way u put it its still corny. For allat he should've just stayed up NY tf he show up for thats not thurl.
People used to believe that “I’m a real street nicca “ nonsense back in the day. We said they was fake and people called us haters .
Anyone saying Joe is lying didn’t watch the podcast
Thank you, I was looking over the comments, hoping to see who would make this point. Facts. He never said Oschino was lying.
This is old news. I remember Beans coming home and talking about it. He made a diss record going at Jay. I think it was the joint ft 50 cent. With that said, the one thing we don't know is the context. Maybe that's why Hov is saying it's cap, if what Joe said is true of course. Lol
He didn’t know that was an option and I feel him cause I have homies that’s unpredictable and don’t listen! They liable to be i. Some shhh anytime and I’m not risking everything I built on a loose cannon
Everybody said it happened and hov didn't deny it until 20 years later
Bro how many times and years are you supposed to bring this up. I can find more than 5 videos of you discussing this. Get a job
J definitely didn't text Joe.
Facts💯,I can't understand that thinking💯
How many people you co-signed an apartment or car for? You could signed someone credit card?
Wheb jayz said it was "cap", thats him saying it didnt go down that way..
He sent that txt because it’s facts we remember
I remember when that happened in 08 or 09
What you think about Leaf Ward?
Gotta get thw court transcript
i really think jayz was telling higher ups not to even mess wit most of them fr fr and this wen bars actually meant something
This is a old story tho right. I thought this was common knowledge that Jay did that.
Pull the transcript, please
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This dude still talking about State Property, Jay Z and Beans 25 years later. OSCHINO is a kid stuck in a grown mans body like Jim Jones and Maino🤔
Ppl forget that some of us are old enough to remember when that whole case when Beans got booked. It was on the news and all!! Every time he went to court. We was all watching as youngins smh Mfs think that Mandela Effect really work on everybody 😂🤦🏽♂️ We all ain’t heavily calcified smh
To hov's defense they came to show the judge that beans would have a job
I got the court documents on my page right now
Look it up on Pacer and show the paperwork homie.
That shit was on the news... FACTS
Word we all know that really happened, but I seriously doubt Jay texted Joe Bubben
He was saying the other story was cap with the dude with the money
The slow people can check the court transcript
Joe finally getting to D.E jayz
ITS IN THE COURT DOCUMENTS
You tripping. It’s just like a mother who says leave my son in jail. Dudes gotta learn for themselves. Hov said ninjas want to sit on my lap. I don’t have a beer Santa Claus ain’t black. All his loyal, family, and friends is well taken care of. You can’t just give people money just cause they are homie. Our community got a lot to learn. Hov helped you make lots of money. It’s about loyalty. Loyalty and doing things to push our community forward is what’s going to get you blessings. He don’t owe anyone money just cause. I can’t argue that doing that hurts the family or our community. SMH
Hell beans said he said it too 🤷🏾♂️
Beans said this years ago so it definitely ain’t cap smh
Well it was smart to think like quick .... It quickly separated him from a negative narrative....along the way there will be sacrifices in the pursuit for success and fame... Be it legal or illegal and like he said sorry not sorry I'm unapologetic... If you don't understand it then I understand that your in the business......just not a business man.... RUTHLESS.... How else do you get to the top unless your top is the ceiling....... You must of bumped your head and from the way it sounds you'll keep bumping it on that same ceiling. This is chess not checkers
Now did Jay vouch for Beans at all?.. or maybe he thought his presence was credit enough?..j/s.. I still agree with O just say yeah tho ...
Plus Beans told the story himself before u said it he said it on drink champs at that
Beans and Dame have already spoke on this. Clearly Jay-Z knows he was in the wrong, that's the only reason to deny it now.
Its on camera that Jay said it
Choke no joke was there and said jay z said no
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Jay definitely sayed that you aint the first to say it and keeping standing on what you sayed bro cus the real ones understand what you saying
Joe Budden tryna get his views get back from jayz for jumping on his pump it up beat
That’s the problem with our community no accountability born alone die alone
That’s the difference between jay and the rest. Beans been fucking up do you think it would have been the same response if that was tyty on trial?
Tha crazy thing is nobody going to give Joe any pushback, why would Jay text him and not call… Jay haven’t been communicating with Joe or any interviewers, I call 🧢
20 plus years and u still talking bout j u is a hater and a🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 j is living rent free in your head
Alhumdullilah u shouldn’t understand that way of thinking Ahki bc project babies can’t leave one behind we just raised different that’s all u was saying
That’s mad weird for Joe to lie on jay z like that I doubt jay z texted Joe because we’ve heard beans himself say this same story and other celebrities said jay z said that in court
Beans said it before
This s*** was on the news😂😂😂...
O, you a real dude, but you come off as a disgruntled employee. Let it go, all that stuff was over 20 years ago brother. Life goes on champ.
They are all making excuses for the fact that their favorite rapper is 🍑... 🤣
That’s crazy everybody not real like you O 🫡💯